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Stop derailing with living cost talk

On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Press Release:

http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012

Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com.

- Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims

- Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Legion710
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada423 Posts
September 12 2012 18:46 GMT
#21
Boss likes like a massive douche...
Tyrion Lannister
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1775 Posts
September 12 2012 18:46 GMT
#22
On September 13 2012 03:43 seanisgrand wrote:
Can't be a part of another gaming house for 10 years... what the hell haha.

Seems very unenforceable. Just a scare tactic for the uninformed
RonNation
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States385 Posts
September 12 2012 18:46 GMT
#23
MoW sounds like a scam job.
monkh
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
September 12 2012 18:47 GMT
#24
You totally did the right thing coming out with this. I'm surprised some of the players like Ret even signed a contract like that.
Daeden.620
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 12 2012 18:47 GMT
#25
And another thing that the contract said is that after you've been your time in the house, you're not allowed to establish your own house / be part of gaming house for next 10 years. (We asked about this from the boss and he said that they don't want us to take "ideas" from this house to some of their competitors)


What in the fuck is this? Is this some kind of joke?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 12 2012 18:47 GMT
#26
You once had 3 meatballs to eat the entire day? I hope that's a sort of mistranslation, because that sounds like poverty =\
Either way, that really sucks. Doesn't sound like they would be worth working with.
Refer to my post.
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
September 12 2012 18:47 GMT
#27
Yikes, thanks for letting us know what's up Fuzer!
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
September 12 2012 18:47 GMT
#28
Wow, that sounds really bad.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 18:50:15
September 12 2012 18:48 GMT
#29
WHAT ??? "Can't be a part of another gaming house for 10 years... " I cant be true.. players like Sage , Ret , Morrow will NEVER sign something like that , its impossible. I cant belive it ...

@edit


On September 13 2012 03:47 monkh wrote:
You totally did the right thing coming out with this. I'm surprised some of the players like Ret even signed a contract like that.


Thats why dont belive it. Its like pro gamming suicide
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Shunjal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States482 Posts
September 12 2012 18:48 GMT
#30
This is just taking advantage of uninformed people, when they require such strict contractual agreements, and then bully you when you don't bend to their will.

Has to be the best thing you did with not signing, and releasing information on what is happening. Transparency in situations like these are clearly very important.
Shotgun2
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland9 Posts
September 12 2012 18:48 GMT
#31
On September 13 2012 03:47 monkh wrote:
You totally did the right thing coming out with this. I'm surprised some of the players like Ret even signed a contract like that.


Pretty sure Ret hasn't signed the contract yet
Mairu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States222 Posts
September 12 2012 18:48 GMT
#32
Sounds awful. It is difficult to believe that TL would let Ret stay there if the contract is as bad as you state.
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
September 12 2012 18:48 GMT
#33
Nice contract indeed...
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
September 12 2012 18:49 GMT
#34
Cant say i am actually surprised. Judging by the impressions we got of it ...
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
September 12 2012 18:49 GMT
#35
Damn, that's a rough situation; thanks for speaking up.
1a2aMm
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Belgium47 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 18:50:48
September 12 2012 18:49 GMT
#36
MoW, if your story is true, is really trying to pull something that shouldn't get through in the end. I mean, let's take a look at this part of your part of the story:

"And another thing that the contract said is that after you've been your time in the house, you're not allowed to establish your own house / be part of gaming house for next 10 years. (We asked about this from the boss and he said that they don't want us to take "ideas" from this house to some of their competitors)"


Really? You can't be a part of a team house for the next 10 years just because you've spent a few months in their house? That's beyond silly and let's just imagine you turning full time professional, or at least get the option offered from any team WITH a team house, there's no way MoW can enforce the 10 year rule, it's beyond silly and unprofessional.

But then again, I'm a very skeptical person so it still remains to be seen if your side of the story is fully correct.

edit: I used the term of "team house" instead of gaming house, though I do believe they're the same thing for MoW if it's true.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
September 12 2012 18:49 GMT
#37
Wow this place sounds like a complete joke. Hope to see what they have to say about this.
TL+ Member
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
September 12 2012 18:49 GMT
#38
On September 13 2012 03:42 blade55555 wrote:
Interesting and absolutely stupid if everything is true. There are always 2 sides to the story but wow the MoW sounds absolutely horrid. Also good luck keeping people from doing another team house or something for 10 years lol...


I wonder how you can sign a contract which is made for lets say 3 months and AFTER that they want you to _not_ go to any gaming house? I mean you aren't in the contract anymore so why would they be allowed to do so?

Godawful story btw, hope you get your money back and i really really really hope MoW releases a statement regarding this.
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
Makelius
Profile Joined June 2011
76 Posts
September 12 2012 18:49 GMT
#39
5 hours streaming per day?
no other gaming houses or teams for 10 years? (basically for the rest of an esports career)
NO FOOD

this is just wrong
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
September 12 2012 18:50 GMT
#40
Sounds like MOW was just an elaborate ploy to exploit the players... Maybe this will prompt some other players to come forward so we can get a fuller picture of this situation. ATM it sounds like MOW needs to be seriously evaluated and action needs to be taken against them if these allegations are true. This is just as bad as phony teams like Blight.
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