After muchspeculation EG announced today that Stephano is their newest recruit via a short video called EG Falling.
Liquipedia has a nice summary about the last month:
On August 21st, Stephano was reported to have declined Millenium's offer and that he wouldn't be re-signing, which meant that he would become a free agent on September 1st, at the end of his current contract. Stephano's last apparition under Millenium's colors took place in the 2012 MLG Summer Championship, three days after the announcement of his planned departure from the team. Being seeded in group play thanks to his performance in the Summer Arena, Stephano was quickly sent by viOLet into the lower part of the bracket. He nonetheless made it to the group finals, at the expense of Rain, Heart and TheStC, only to be defeated again by viOLet. Stephano met Revival for his first match in the championship bracket, and was soundly beaten by the Korean player, hence being eliminated of the tournament. A the end of the month, Stephano was invited to replace ThorZaIN, who was ill, in the online tournament MSI Pro Cup #13. He eventually won the event, realising his last achievement for Millenium in their own cup, the day before his contract ended
That vid was THE best they've done yet. Awesome and brilliant. I love their aproach and humor. I never really had a favorite team but EG might be making that a thing of the past he he
Even though a lot of people say that EG has an unlimited fund to buy whatever players they want, they sure haven't put up the numbers for such a claim! So its a completely false claim. I suspect, however, that because its players are guaranteed large pay checks that their motivation of winning drops dramatically. There is a major difference between American and Korean work ethics. (EG Curse?)
It should be very interesting to see how Stephano puts up in tournaments. He will either get better or will slump like HuK. I wonder how long it will be before Stephano starts plugging for Kingston Hyper-X....
I will get around to watching their documentary tomorrow. I'm glad I have ad-block.
hahaha I don't believe in an eg curse, it's just that eg recruits so many people already at the top of their careers they can only go down + too much money bad for the motivation! Good luck to stephano, i still believe he is the most talented player in the world and i hope and think he will prove it beyond a doubt in the future.
On September 11 2012 13:29 PauseBreak wrote: "EG just buys their skill."
Even though a lot of people say that EG has an unlimited fund to buy whatever players they want, they sure haven't put up the numbers for such a claim! So its a completely false claim. I suspect, however, that because its players are guaranteed large pay checks that their motivation of winning drops dramatically. There is a major difference between American and Korean work ethics. (EG Curse?)
It should be very interesting to see how Stephano puts up in tournaments. He will either get better or will slump like HuK. I wonder how long it will be before Stephano starts plugging for Kingston Hyper-X....
I will get around to watching their documentary tomorrow. I'm glad I have ad-block.
Want to know who the highest paid professional athletes are? The ones with the best performances.
Got to love all the people who say "money = bad" have to shut their eyes and block out the rest of the world to justify their opinion.
On September 11 2012 13:57 Gentso wrote: EG has no shame. Hopefully it ends here. Invest in making your current players better instead of buying people as soon as they win something!
EG invests in their players better than any other team.
On September 11 2012 13:57 Gentso wrote: EG has no shame. Hopefully it ends here. Invest in making your current players better instead of buying people as soon as they win something!
I agree. If only EG allowed their current players to collaborate and play in some sort of training facility, and brought them to events to support their careers. The fact that they do neither of these- nor pay them any salaries- is completely shameless and something should be done about this.
Is there any way I could find the names of all of their sponsors... say, recited one after another in quick succession by a player on EG... that makes all of these things not possible?
I think it's pretty cool that EG is slowly becoming a badass top-tier team. While there may not be an EG 'curse' per se, they did seem to pick up most of their players at the height of their careers. These players have since been eclipsed by smarter, faster nerds. Not to mention EG doesn't have a GSL trophy, the pinnacle of achievement in our sport. They are one of the few teams that can afford to send players to Korea to train, and have. Just sayin.
Nobody is surprised because news of this broke forever ago and everyone knows EG is full of money. They better hope he keeps doing well, because there will be hell to pay if he starts sucking now.
So funny that they may call themselves a "progaming team" although all they do is buy players when they are best most popular and then make money because they tell the sponsors they are a popular team.
Well, it must be working really well, otherwise they wouldnt be able to buy stephano... I really hope he still has some time to play :')
I still wonder. EG has a lot of good players, but it is a good team? A team can be more than the sum of the members. EG reminds me a bit of FXO in the early day. They had a lot of (then) good players but still lacked the results.
On the other hand: Will Stephano be the Teaja of EG now?
I have to say every time they announce a player they do it in a really cool way, even here where it seemd impossible to make it look cool they managed to do so.
EG starting to remind me of Barcelona in football. Only the VERY BEST in there. I really hope the team will go Well! Can't wait to see some Idra vs Stephano training matches (since Stephano has already admitted that ZvZ is his weakest matchup) .
Good Luck Stephano , you really deserve to be in that team and ofc good luck in EG in general!
On September 11 2012 16:47 ZeroC0oL wrote: EG starting to remind me of Barcelona in football. Only the VERY BEST in there. I really hope the team will go Well! Can't wait to see some Idra vs Stephano training matches (since Stephano has already admitted that ZvZ is his weakest matchup) .
Good Luck Stephano , you really deserve to be in that team and ofc good luck in EG in general!
Except Barcelona didn't buy most of the players (at least the most important ones) as in the case of Messi, Xavi or Iniesta. It would be closer to Real Madrid. Ronaldo 96 is the Stephano of sc2, he is not the best but it's the best that can be bought (Koreans f.e.).
I can really respect a team that picks up unknown players who don't get to go to the big events to show their skill. Can't wait to see what this kid can do!
On September 11 2012 16:47 ZeroC0oL wrote: EG starting to remind me of Barcelona in football. Only the VERY BEST in there. I really hope the team will go Well! Can't wait to see some Idra vs Stephano training matches (since Stephano has already admitted that ZvZ is his weakest matchup) .
Good Luck Stephano , you really deserve to be in that team and ofc good luck in EG in general!
Except Barcelona didn't buy most of the players (at least the most important ones) as in the case of Messi, Xavi or Iniesta. It would be closer to Real Madrid. Ronaldo 96 is the Stephano of sc2, he is not the best but it's the best that can be bought (Koreans f.e.).
Messi cost Barcelona a massive amount in medical fees, housing his family and training staff personally for him. You're right though, Barca bring the majority of the Spanish National Team their squad through their youth academy which cost them millions to develop.
I always question if EG are even the best team, their list of achievements isn't vastly bigger than any other team, especially with their lackluster team league performance and the 3 sub 50% winrate players on their team, they had even more before they dropped Axslav (who then got better) and Strifecro. The EG curse is always funny to hear about cause guys like JWong and Ricky Ortiz just keep rolling in the tournament wins, it's not being on EG that stops you winning tournaments.
Of course if you look at the way they conduct their business, then they are the best team by miles (I'd say there was still a gap above TL, Fnatic and Dignitas). They have the best personalities, they market them the best and they provide their players with much more opportunities than other teams do which is how they manage to have this seemingly endless pool of cash. People are always going on about how they want eSports to be legitimate, teams have to market their players better than they do currently, you can't expect to have sponsors then not plug them and get their names out there and wonder why your team doesn't have as much money as EG.
I'm glad to see Stephano on a team that can give him the money he deserves. He's a natural talent and if the low practice hours are true, it just shows how much innate talent he has compared to the rest of the field.
I guess money talks ... But still that Stephano boy seems like an intelligent guy, hope he leaves as soon as his skill decreases or performance lowers.. unless he only cares about money ... -.-'
On September 11 2012 17:54 Rammstorm wrote: I guess money talks ... But still that Stephano boy seems like an intelligent guy, hope he leaves as soon as his skill decreases or performance lowers.. unless he only cares about money ... -.-'
Wow did you know that Stephano has said all he wants to do in sc2 is make as much money as possible? Also if his skill decreases won't be because he joined EG lol...
I bet if you were offered 80k to join EG you would do it to. If you say no, I don't believe you.
EG getting a lot of flak for this and deservedly so - the fact that they signed Stephano even though that was what most people suspected is very offensive to the mind. Everyone knows that signings need to be massive surprises and they have to come out of the blue. You can't sign someone if people already know because then they would have known that you were going to sign that player instead of not knowing at all. And this has nothing to do with it being EG - any other team would have received the same amount of disdain for this kind of move. In fact, if he had joined Liquid, the entire community would have fallen apart. Hopefully Stephano, with the help of a community that belongs to Mensa, can lift the curse that EG have placed upon him.
In their defense, that documentary was spectacular.
Hilarious video, too bad they don't say that Stephano won more than all EG-team, or a team like Acer won more titles than EG in 2012 (and without koreans).
EG is really the best team... Let me laugh.
Anyway I'll still cheering for Stephano even he's in a team I don't like.
On September 11 2012 19:59 Foudzing wrote: Hilarious video, too bad they don't say that Stephano won more than all EG-team, or a team like Acer won more titles than EG in 2012 (and without koreans).
EG is really the best team... Let me laugh.
Anyway I'll still cheering for Stephano even he's in a team I don't like.
On September 11 2012 19:49 SeinGalton wrote: EG getting a lot of flak for this and deservedly so - the fact that they signed Stephano even though that was what most people suspected is very offensive to the mind. Everyone knows that signings need to be massive surprises and they have to come out of the blue. You can't sign someone if people already know because then they would have known that you were going to sign that player instead of not knowing at all. And this has nothing to do with it being EG - any other team would have received the same amount of disdain for this kind of move. In fact, if he had joined Liquid, the entire community would have fallen apart. Hopefully Stephano, with the help of a community that belongs to Mensa, can lift the curse that EG have placed upon him.
In their defense, that documentary was spectacular.
I don't really care about how they make money and conduct business really.. I will watch their streams if I find them entertaining or go watch something else, if not. I used to watch Incontrol, but found him quite boring and doing other stuff lately, also taking long breaks between games. Also, yes, they probably don't have any top-knotch player , say Taeja's calliber, but if they're able to be entertaining it will work out for them.
eg is such a powerhouse team o_O. I'd like to see them eventually compete in GSTL, they would get a lot of attention if they win anything, which is more than likely.
On September 11 2012 19:59 Foudzing wrote: Hilarious video, too bad they don't say that Stephano won more than all EG-team, or a team like Acer won more titles than EG in 2012 (and without koreans).
EG is really the best team... Let me laugh.
Anyway I'll still cheering for Stephano even he's in a team I don't like.
Lmao. You have some issues.
He's just salty that Stephano got tired of Millenium... Foudzing's favorite team.
On September 11 2012 21:00 crbox wrote: eg is such a powerhouse team o_O. I'd like to see them eventually compete in GSTL, they would get a lot of attention if they win anything, which is more than likely.
EG winning? Ok check your temperature... EG is know for under-performing.
PS. Check their first game in the new EG MCSL. Their strongest line-up (Stephano wasn't on team at that time i believe) and their pitiful result.
Pretty great video I do love the theatrics of EG and iNcontrol. EG really is shoring up some ridiculous talent they might have a shot of competing in GSTL if they all went over.
I always disappointed in seeing forum posters bash on stuff that they do not know about like how much he was paid or saying EG isn't a top team. Just Enjoy E-sports by being positive instead of being always negative. Good Luck in EG Stephano ! Hope for great results!
Very nice video, except for the ending. Stephano isn't really good at acting angry, apparently. Also, once again EG gives a free lesson to other teams on how to market themselves.
On September 11 2012 21:49 Universum wrote: I always disappointed in seeing forum posters bash on stuff that they do not know about like how much he was paid or saying EG isn't a top team. Just Enjoy E-sports by being positive instead of being always negative. Good Luck in EG Stephano ! Hope for great results!
I think the negativity is a good thing, and it makes this whole thing feel like a real sport. How many people do you know that are always positive about a team that is going up against your team? Kind like "The Bears suck! Dolphins are gonna kick their ass!" type of deal.
Rather have these types of posts instead of all the gender bashing, racist, drama filled witch hunting posts that has been going on...
Can't tell if some of the posters are trolling, or just been living under a rock for the past few weeks. X-D This has been hinted at for awhile now; pretty much expected, lol.
EG's foreign team's extra-strong now. HuK, Stephano, ThorZaIN, and DeMusliM? Good God, they would be well-nigh unstoppable if it weren't for Koreans.
On September 11 2012 23:28 epidGoaty wrote: Why hasn't there been a Gwen Stephano parody?
Hollaback Zerg? That shit would be bananas.
Few times I've practiced that match but it doesn't mean I'll go 14 hatch cuz I ain't no Hollaback Zerg
Shit just got real. Jokes aside, congrats to Stephano and good luck für his future I'm sure that he will continue to take loads of tournament cash to the bank.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! This video is the SHIT! This video just made EG my new favorite team. I hope Geoff and the rest of EG get to defecate on some haters(Quantic) on stage! Do your thing EG!!!
On September 12 2012 00:44 cLAN.Anax wrote: Can't tell if some of the posters are trolling, or just been living under a rock for the past few weeks. X-D This has been hinted at for awhile now; pretty much expected, lol.
EG's foreign team's extra-strong now. HuK, Stephano, ThorZaIN, and DeMusliM? Good God, they would be well-nigh unstoppable if it weren't for Koreans.
...............or other foreign teams who've beaten EG in team leagues
On September 12 2012 00:44 cLAN.Anax wrote: Can't tell if some of the posters are trolling, or just been living under a rock for the past few weeks. X-D This has been hinted at for awhile now; pretty much expected, lol.
EG's foreign team's extra-strong now. HuK, Stephano, ThorZaIN, and DeMusliM? Good God, they would be well-nigh unstoppable if it weren't for Koreans.
If you still think Huk or Demuslim are the strongest foreigners maybe YOU have been living under a rock ? :-) (no offense intended)
Nice. Now let's hope Stephano takes his code S seed and finally becomes the first foreigner GSL champ as well the first for EG. Quiet the naysayers and "EG curse" believers.
On September 11 2012 23:31 GuMmIbEiN wrote: I thought Stephano was going to retire because of school... But I guess he changed his mind
Dat paycheck man. He's a 19 year old making 6 figures, flying around the world, and is a niche celebrity. Medical school is just so shitty in comparison, even if it may be smarter in the long run.
On September 12 2012 03:34 Interstellar wrote: Nice. Now let's hope Stephano takes his code S seed and finally becomes the first foreigner GSL champ as well the first for EG. Quiet the naysayers and "EG curse" believers.
It wouldn't stop them. They just like to troll with the "EG curse" that doesn't exist lol. They know it's annoying and that's why they say it so much
EG has quite the start studded line up. Now that they've added Stephano maybe we'll start seeing them in the headlines again, if only because we often see Stephano there so often.
I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
Either way I'm happy for EG, hoping to see them with some big wins in the future =)
EG = the yankees of pro sc... buy up players at their peak only to see them decline... the jury still out on stephano but with this huge payday, maybe his results will start slip.
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote: EG has quite the start studded line up. Now that they've added Stephano maybe we'll start seeing them in the headlines again, if only because we often see Stephano there so often.
I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
Either way I'm happy for EG, hoping to see them with some big wins in the future =)
yes like Huk getting ro8 in GSL and then winning MLG Orlando and getting 3rd/4th at MLG Winter Arena and Championship...
And Puma won IEM Cologne right after joining EG then went to win NASL S2 and 2nd at DH Winter after joining EG.
I never thought EG was cursed, people were just sad that some of their favorite players like Huk haven't been performing as well lately. Really funny video as usual though, and gl to EGStephanoRC =p
On September 12 2012 04:59 wildstyle1337 wrote: if he will stay at eg house and play NA ladder it will ne curse
Well said my friend, the curse is the weakness of the NA server. He should stay and practice in Europe, better would be Korea though.
Yeah, because Huk's absence from the house has resulted in his complete avoidance of any bad play in tournaments.
He needs to switch the server, not his house. I think the whole "Lair" thing is really good, but the low quality training at the NA server is the real "curse".
So what would really be the difference between a team like EG and Startale (apart from the obvious)? Is it that Korean teams have better practice regiments or better competition to practice with? How is it that Korean teenagers are dominating Code S while foreign teams with older players can hardly compete?
Korean practise schedule is 10x harder Korean Server is 10x harder Korean mentality is 10x better
Thats pretty much everything why ALL foreigners can't compete on the same level with koreans its not about "talent". Thts the excuse for lacking in practise and mindset
On September 12 2012 07:15 frezMki wrote: Korean practise schedule is 10x harder Korean Server is 10x harder Korean mentality is 10x better
Thats pretty much everything why ALL foreigners can't compete on the same level with koreans its not about "talent". Thts the excuse for lacking in practise and mindset
Makes sense. Anytime I've seen a Korean player enter the NA server they immediately shoot up to the top of Grandmasters. I wonder what they do specifically?? Do they just play endless games against each other or do they strategize their practice regiments? What's the missing ingredient?
On September 12 2012 04:59 wildstyle1337 wrote: if he will stay at eg house and play NA ladder it will ne curse
Well said my friend, the curse is the weakness of the NA server. He should stay and practice in Europe, better would be Korea though.
Yeah, because Huk's absence from the house has resulted in his complete avoidance of any bad play in tournaments.
He needs to switch the server, not his house. I think the whole "Lair" thing is really good, but the low quality training at the NA server is the real "curse".
Doesn't Scarlett play exclusively on the NA Server? And she's a baws.
Hey, has anyone else noticed how it seems like every star player that join EG just starts doing really poorly? Like they only go for the money or something, maybe it's just me but stephano might stop performing after this. Just saying :/
On September 12 2012 04:59 wildstyle1337 wrote: if he will stay at eg house and play NA ladder it will ne curse
Well said my friend, the curse is the weakness of the NA server. He should stay and practice in Europe, better would be Korea though.
Yeah, because Huk's absence from the house has resulted in his complete avoidance of any bad play in tournaments.
He needs to switch the server, not his house. I think the whole "Lair" thing is really good, but the low quality training at the NA server is the real "curse".
Doesn't Scarlett play exclusively on the NA Server? And she's a baws.
On September 12 2012 07:35 skyrunner wrote: Hey, has anyone else noticed how it seems like every star player that join EG just starts doing really poorly? Like they only go for the money or something, maybe it's just me but stephano might stop performing after this. Just saying :/
On September 12 2012 07:35 skyrunner wrote: Hey, has anyone else noticed how it seems like every star player that join EG just starts doing really poorly? Like they only go for the money or something, maybe it's just me but stephano might stop performing after this. Just saying :/
Yeah man.. Its like EG is fostering failure. Some might even say Evil Genius is Falling.
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote:I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
I believe it is an incentive problem.
It is easy to understand that EG has the money to pay their star SC2 players a livable income. When you're already making $40k+++ a year you don't really have to rely on tournament winnings to sustain a comfortable lifestyle. If someone like Stephano, who is rumored to be making six-figures, it is hard to justify putting in so much effort into winning a $5k tournament when you make more than that a month. Of course no player would outright admit this, but I'm sure there is some meta-analysis in some scientific journal correlating this phenomena.
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote:I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
I believe it is an incentive problem.
It is easy to understand that EG has the money to pay their star SC2 players a livable income. When you're already making $40k+++ a year you don't really have to rely on tournament winnings to sustain a comfortable lifestyle. If someone like Stephano, who is rumored to be making six-figures, it is hard to justify putting in so much effort into winning a $5k tournament when you make more than that a month. Of course no player would outright admit this, but I'm sure there is some meta-analysis in some scientific journal correlating this phenomena.
do well to secure next contract. ever thought of that?
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote:I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
I believe it is an incentive problem.
It is easy to understand that EG has the money to pay their star SC2 players a livable income. When you're already making $40k+++ a year you don't really have to rely on tournament winnings to sustain a comfortable lifestyle. If someone like Stephano, who is rumored to be making six-figures, it is hard to justify putting in so much effort into winning a $5k tournament when you make more than that a month. Of course no player would outright admit this, but I'm sure there is some meta-analysis in some scientific journal correlating this phenomena.
do well to secure next contract. ever thought of that?
Yeah, but once you've raked in over $100,000 in a single year, it's easy to say, "No thanks, I'm retired."
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote:I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
I believe it is an incentive problem.
It is easy to understand that EG has the money to pay their star SC2 players a livable income. When you're already making $40k+++ a year you don't really have to rely on tournament winnings to sustain a comfortable lifestyle. If someone like Stephano, who is rumored to be making six-figures, it is hard to justify putting in so much effort into winning a $5k tournament when you make more than that a month. Of course no player would outright admit this, but I'm sure there is some meta-analysis in some scientific journal correlating this phenomena.
do well to secure next contract. ever thought of that?
Many EG players still renew their contracts even when they flop during a tournament.
You think EG should cut a player loose if they have one bad season? How does that foster well being on the team? If this were to actually happen players might be reluctant to move to EG if they aren't willing to stand by their players. EG takes care of their players and their players take care of EG. Whether that be through placing well in tournaments or becoming another marketable figure.
EG is more than an SC2 line up, that should be obvious by now. I mean look at Machine, he is the designated Idra body double and product hustler. Or Incontrol, a spokesman and community leader. Should Incontrol be dropped because he hasn't made any tournament results in a year? EG would lose more than Incontrol.
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote:I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
I believe it is an incentive problem.
It is easy to understand that EG has the money to pay their star SC2 players a livable income. When you're already making $40k+++ a year you don't really have to rely on tournament winnings to sustain a comfortable lifestyle. If someone like Stephano, who is rumored to be making six-figures, it is hard to justify putting in so much effort into winning a $5k tournament when you make more than that a month. Of course no player would outright admit this, but I'm sure there is some meta-analysis in some scientific journal correlating this phenomena.
do well to secure next contract. ever thought of that?
Yeah, but once you've raked in over $100,000 in a single year, it's easy to say, "No thanks, I'm retired."
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote:I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
I believe it is an incentive problem.
It is easy to understand that EG has the money to pay their star SC2 players a livable income. When you're already making $40k+++ a year you don't really have to rely on tournament winnings to sustain a comfortable lifestyle. If someone like Stephano, who is rumored to be making six-figures, it is hard to justify putting in so much effort into winning a $5k tournament when you make more than that a month. Of course no player would outright admit this, but I'm sure there is some meta-analysis in some scientific journal correlating this phenomena.
do well to secure next contract. ever thought of that?
Yeah, but once you've raked in over $100,000 in a single year, it's easy to say, "No thanks, I'm retired."
I think this is the most prominent answer. Motivation is a huge part of someones success, and with a paycheck of 100k/year for a career that is relatively short lived that's really a lot, so it would make sense that you lose some of the motivation once you have a secure income for a certain amount of time. That's what I find the most impressive with people like Flash, Jaedong etc, people who have been at the top for so long and can still keep going as if they were chasing something when, in fact, they have already achieved pretty much everything. Then again, everyone is different and everyone has different goals, which is why I hope stephano keeps posting results!
I don't think EG players like Idra, Huk and Incontrol are even looking to compete anymore. It sounds like they are getting more involved in the business end of the company. Which is natural since you can't play SC2 at the top level forever.
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote:I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
I believe it is an incentive problem.
It is easy to understand that EG has the money to pay their star SC2 players a livable income. When you're already making $40k+++ a year you don't really have to rely on tournament winnings to sustain a comfortable lifestyle. If someone like Stephano, who is rumored to be making six-figures, it is hard to justify putting in so much effort into winning a $5k tournament when you make more than that a month. Of course no player would outright admit this, but I'm sure there is some meta-analysis in some scientific journal correlating this phenomena.
do well to secure next contract. ever thought of that?
Yeah, but once you've raked in over $100,000 in a single year, it's easy to say, "No thanks, I'm retired."
How does one retire with $100,000?
Invest it wisely. You can buy property and rent it out. Build off that and live rich forever. Easy.
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote:I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
I believe it is an incentive problem.
It is easy to understand that EG has the money to pay their star SC2 players a livable income. When you're already making $40k+++ a year you don't really have to rely on tournament winnings to sustain a comfortable lifestyle. If someone like Stephano, who is rumored to be making six-figures, it is hard to justify putting in so much effort into winning a $5k tournament when you make more than that a month. Of course no player would outright admit this, but I'm sure there is some meta-analysis in some scientific journal correlating this phenomena.
do well to secure next contract. ever thought of that?
Yeah, but once you've raked in over $100,000 in a single year, it's easy to say, "No thanks, I'm retired."
How does one retire with $100,000?
Invest it wisely. You can buy property and rent it out. Build off that and live rich forever. Easy.
Why do you guys keep saying that Stephano could "retire"? He's not even old enough to drink in the United States!!! He has a long young life ahead of him.
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote:I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
I believe it is an incentive problem.
It is easy to understand that EG has the money to pay their star SC2 players a livable income. When you're already making $40k+++ a year you don't really have to rely on tournament winnings to sustain a comfortable lifestyle. If someone like Stephano, who is rumored to be making six-figures, it is hard to justify putting in so much effort into winning a $5k tournament when you make more than that a month. Of course no player would outright admit this, but I'm sure there is some meta-analysis in some scientific journal correlating this phenomena.
do well to secure next contract. ever thought of that?
Yeah, but once you've raked in over $100,000 in a single year, it's easy to say, "No thanks, I'm retired."
How does one retire with $100,000?
Invest it wisely. You can buy property and rent it out. Build off that and live rich forever. Easy.
No offence but 100k doesn't even get you a flat in Vienna....
Yes in some areas of the world you could retire on that, but definitly not in most western countries.
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote:I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
I believe it is an incentive problem.
It is easy to understand that EG has the money to pay their star SC2 players a livable income. When you're already making $40k+++ a year you don't really have to rely on tournament winnings to sustain a comfortable lifestyle. If someone like Stephano, who is rumored to be making six-figures, it is hard to justify putting in so much effort into winning a $5k tournament when you make more than that a month. Of course no player would outright admit this, but I'm sure there is some meta-analysis in some scientific journal correlating this phenomena.
do well to secure next contract. ever thought of that?
Yeah, but once you've raked in over $100,000 in a single year, it's easy to say, "No thanks, I'm retired."
How does one retire with $100,000?
Invest it wisely. You can buy property and rent it out. Build off that and live rich forever. Easy.
Or you can continue to play a VIDEO GAME for thousand of dollars a year, milk dat money cow while it's alive.
-_- This shouldn't surprise anyone They were basically shouting at us the whole time (every stream of EG's team, Stephano was walking by -.-) And then he was training with Demuslim, no surprise there. I myself don't like him joining a pathetic team as EG, because they never get anything done, but this might change it all because of Stephano's good play( skill, mechanics) This might change the whole practice for the team..(and Idra will rage even more, because Stephano will dominate him..When Stephano actually starts practising his ZvZ. Hopefully this will happen I would rather see Stephano go to a team where they actually practise instead of hanging out with chicks, but well, its Stephano... Party and girls all the way, right? Oh right, moneey!
Yeah, but once you've raked in over $100,000 in a single year, it's easy to say, "No thanks, I'm retired."
How does one retire with $100,000?
Invest it wisely. You can buy property and rent it out. Build off that and live rich forever. Easy.
You have to be kidding me. It is absolutely not possible to retire at Stephano's age with $100k. You're not even considering the taxes he'll pay on it.
I hope for the sake of humanity that I just got trolled, or else we are doomed.
On September 12 2012 04:32 Fix637 wrote:I don't believe in the whole "EG Curse" thing but it is undeniable that some players have produced less results immediately after joining EG. No one really knows why that is but if it does have something to do with EG's practice format then perhaps Stephano's unique practice regimen will keep him at the top.
I believe it is an incentive problem.
It is easy to understand that EG has the money to pay their star SC2 players a livable income. When you're already making $40k+++ a year you don't really have to rely on tournament winnings to sustain a comfortable lifestyle. If someone like Stephano, who is rumored to be making six-figures, it is hard to justify putting in so much effort into winning a $5k tournament when you make more than that a month. Of course no player would outright admit this, but I'm sure there is some meta-analysis in some scientific journal correlating this phenomena.
Didn't you hear? $40k a year is like pennies. I can't even imagine making less than half a million a year. I mean how could I afford my next 2 yachts? You can barely scrape by with this kind of money. "Comfortable lifestyle" fucking lol dude
Seriously, though, don't underestimate the power of human greed. That silly little bug in the brain that makes you keep wanting more in an endless never ending cycle. These guys probably would want to keep their skills sharp to secure the next contract. Don't forget that e-sport stardom is an even shorter career than professional athletes so you get what you can now and use that for college later; of course, given that you didn't kill too many brain cells by then because you will need that for studying and as a reserve for the subsequent brain cell killing you will do there.
Yeah, but once you've raked in over $100,000 in a single year, it's easy to say, "No thanks, I'm retired."
How does one retire with $100,000?
Invest it wisely. You can buy property and rent it out. Build off that and live rich forever. Easy.
You have to be kidding me. It is absolutely not possible to retire at Stephano's age with $100k. You're not even considering the taxes he'll pay on it.
I hope for the sake of humanity that I just got trolled, or else we are doomed.
On September 12 2012 16:52 nimdil wrote: What do you mean property? For 100k$ in Warsaw you can buy small-to-average flat and the prices are dropping for at least three years now
On September 12 2012 16:52 nimdil wrote: What do you mean property? For 100k$ in Warsaw you can buy small-to-average flat and the prices are dropping for at least three years now
for 100k$ i would maybe get a garage space :S
Then you're ok, you rent it and you have your income for the rest of your life
On September 12 2012 16:52 nimdil wrote: What do you mean property? For 100k$ in Warsaw you can buy small-to-average flat and the prices are dropping for at least three years now
for 100k$ i would maybe get a garage space :S
Then you're ok, you rent it and you have your income for the rest of your life
On September 12 2012 16:52 nimdil wrote: What do you mean property? For 100k$ in Warsaw you can buy small-to-average flat and the prices are dropping for at least three years now
for 100k$ i would maybe get a garage space :S
Grats you make more money and spend more money dawg
On September 12 2012 16:52 nimdil wrote: What do you mean property? For 100k$ in Warsaw you can buy small-to-average flat and the prices are dropping for at least three years now
for 100k$ i would maybe get a garage space :S
Same in Paris, with 100k$ you can at best get 10 m^2
On September 12 2012 16:52 nimdil wrote: What do you mean property? For 100k$ in Warsaw you can buy small-to-average flat and the prices are dropping for at least three years now
for 100k$ i would maybe get a garage space :S
Well you live in Norway. Even EU is too cheap for you to join.
On September 12 2012 16:52 nimdil wrote: What do you mean property? For 100k$ in Warsaw you can buy small-to-average flat and the prices are dropping for at least three years now
for 100k$ i would maybe get a garage space :S
Well you live in Norway. Even EU is too cheap for you to join.
We're rich but the house and especially apartment market is inflated as fuck. Think prices saw a 13% increase on average last year. And they just went up over 3% over in over 3 months. We be fucked.
Basically the only bad thing about Stephano being in EG that I can think of is that now that Stephano is in EG house to stay I will basically not be able to see him stream at all anymore. The timezones pretty much make sure that I'm either sleeping or at work when US westcost is streaming. Even Korean timezones was better. The only EG member who almost regularly streams on my primetime is Demuslim, and big thanks to him for that! My humble request is that also other EG guys, Incontrol and Stephano on top of that list, would stream more during their morning hours. Please guys!
he said in a french interview that he'll no be able to stay in EG house cause there is few pets and he got alergies... he's still sneezing and scratching and it's not a good environement for training
On September 21 2012 02:40 Effets wrote: he said in a french interview that he'll no be able to stay in EG house cause there is few pets and he got alergies... he's still sneezing and scratching and it's not a good environement for training
If he leaves EG house because of that it would still be a bit disappointing, even though it would probably increase my chances of seeing Stephano stream by some really big numbers. I guess the optimal solution from my point of view would have been if EG sent Stephano to their Korean training house where Stephano would be able to train with the best Koreans late at night.
On September 16 2012 14:17 PourquoiPas wrote: interesting EG bashed Orb for language while Stephano tweets anti-semetic things.
Stephano wasn't a member of EG when he made his commnets. Orb was. See the difference?
Wrong. The comments that got me fired were from months before I ever even communicated with EG. Please don't randomly spew lies about me in random TL threads, thanks!
On September 16 2012 14:17 PourquoiPas wrote: interesting EG bashed Orb for language while Stephano tweets anti-semetic things.
Stephano wasn't a member of EG when he made his commnets. Orb was. See the difference?
No. Read orbs post. The difference is that that community didn't blow up about Stephano's comments. What orb said would have been brushed under the table, unknown to most people if people didn't blow it out of proportion. As soon as the community flamed up over it, everyone and their mother felt they had an opinion on the issue and became vocal about it, simply because other people were discussing it. Then because society in it's entirety can't handle some things, orb was condemned.
Some people were upset about what Stephano said, but nobody cared enough to make a big fuss over it. I'm sure if someone made a massive fuss, things would have gone differently, but Stephano has such a huge fan base that who knows if it would have made much of a difference.
On September 16 2012 14:17 PourquoiPas wrote: interesting EG bashed Orb for language while Stephano tweets anti-semetic things.
Stephano wasn't a member of EG when he made his commnets. Orb was. See the difference?
No. Read orbs post. The difference is that that community didn't blow up about Stephano's comments. What orb said would have been brushed under the table, unknown to most people if people didn't blow it out of proportion. As soon as the community flamed up over it, everyone and their mother felt they had an opinion on the issue and became vocal about it, simply because other people were discussing it. Then because society in it's entirety can't handle some things, orb was condemned.
Some people were upset about what Stephano said, but nobody cared enough to make a big fuss over it. I'm sure if someone made a massive fuss, things would have gone differently, but Stephano has such a huge fan base that who knows if it would have made much of a difference.
And what Stephano jokingly said to his friend HasuObs (who jokingly calls him Bomberman because he has arabic roots) was offending to germans and not to jews. Not saying it's better but like orb's said, don't post random things on TL.
On September 23 2012 01:38 eanxiii wrote: Good news. Now he is curse.
No, he broke the curse by calling it 'bullshit' and winning the WCS2012 Europe Finals.
Big difference between Immune to the Curse and BREAKING the curse, to break it... if he did... we need to see one of the other EG players start to do really well again. That would signify the curse is broken. Just Stephano doing well means that he has some sort of immunity to it.
On September 23 2012 07:59 ne0lith wrote: I'm not sure how he's immune to the curse when he just lost to Taeja.
The only person who doesn't lose to Taeja when both are playing at their best is Rain. Taeja had like a 10% higher win rate than everyone else overall (which is an absolutely massive difference) and is the best terran in the world at the moment. If Stephano beat Taeja, that would have actually been one of the biggest upsets of the tournament. I mean, a foreigner beating Taeja? That's just insane.
On September 23 2012 07:59 ne0lith wrote: I'm not sure how he's immune to the curse when he just lost to Taeja.
The only person who doesn't lose to Taeja when both are playing at their best is Rain. Taeja had like a 10% higher win rate than everyone else overall (which is an absolutely massive difference) and is the best terran in the world at the moment. If Stephano beat Taeja, that would have actually been one of the biggest upsets of the tournament. I mean, a foreigner beating Taeja? That's just insane.
Taeja has the highest ELO in korea according to the TLPD for a reason.
On September 23 2012 08:35 zachMEISTER wrote: What happened here? I read about it on cadred? Is this a staged photo-op?
Real deal. At some afterparty after a major LAN, he got drunk and puked all over the couches and shit. Got shipped to the drunk tank for that one. We all had a good laugh about it.
The EG curse is the money curse, you get paid a good living and start caring less about starcraft. However, stephano was in starcraft for money in the first place, thus it wont affect him, in fact he might even do better now that hes making that much more ^^.
On September 23 2012 08:35 zachMEISTER wrote: What happened here? I read about it on cadred? Is this a staged photo-op? + Show Spoiler +
Real deal. At some afterparty after a major LAN, he got drunk and puked all over the couches and shit. Got shipped to the drunk tank for that one. We all had a good laugh about it.
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