EPTLink:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19373708
BBC does a video on Starcraft 2 and e-sports!
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19373708 | ||
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Kergy
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StarStruck
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Just like Katie Goldberg saying, "Millions watching at home." -_- | ||
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RiSkysc2
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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KueKue
United States36 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:21 Kergy wrote: SC2 is not like the NFL in Korea. It actually is. Korea is known for gaming , where as America is known for NFL/MLB (Competitive wise) Hearing a name like Tom Brady rings a bell in the US, as hearing BoxeR rings a bell in Korea. EDIT : Gaming, such as Tekken/League of Legends/Starcraft 2 (Sorry for broad word  ) | ||
GTR
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However, it is probably the 4th largest sport, behind baseball, soccer and basketball. | ||
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Shocae
United States141 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:35 GTR wrote: Still an over exaggeration, Daniel Lee said it best that ESPORTS in Korea is what wrestling is in America. However, it is probably the 4th largest sport, behind baseball, soccer and basketball. I feel like there is a relative gap then. Wresting is not close to being the 4th largest sport in America, but competitive gaming in Korea is (or so you/we assume). Under that pretext, wouldn't competitive gaming be better compared to something like hockey? On the other hand, you could argue that the gap between those 3 top sports in Korea (baseball, soccer, basketball) and the 4th largest sport (competitive gaming) is much bigger than the gap between something like Soccer and Wrestling in America. | ||
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Anomarad
Canada565 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:21 Kergy wrote: SC2 is not like the NFL in Korea. Came here to say the same thing =_= People need to lose the mentality that SC2 players are popular over in Korea. Even with the OGN switch the scene has already dwindled considerably from what it was many years ago. Edit:It's not comparable to WWE either... | ||
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iNcontroL
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
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KueKue
United States36 Posts
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
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Epoch
Canada257 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
A: How hard professional gamers actually work. It is NOT all fun and games, and B:How exhausting it is mentally to play Starcraft at a competitive level. Unlike LoL (*cough*) you pour everything you have into every game. It is really taxing. | ||
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Rah
United States973 Posts
On August 28 2012 15:20 Anomarad wrote: Came here to say the same thing =_= People need to lose the mentality that SC2 players are popular over in Korea. Even with the OGN switch the scene has already dwindled considerably from what it was many years ago. Edit:It's not comparable to WWE either... Fake it till you make it. If you're looking to give the e-sports culture more exposure from a new source, it's better to make it look like it's already accepted and loved by as many people as possible. Even if they figure out it's hugely false maybe the newly interested person already checked it out by that point and liked it. The average person cares too much about "how many people are into this?" That's something the companies looking to profit need to worry about, like MLG. | ||
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EuLoGy[kTw]
United States82 Posts
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houseurmusic
United States544 Posts
and to vibe, SC2 is not anything like the NFL in Korea | ||
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TwilightRain
Germany351 Posts
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Rah
United States973 Posts
On August 28 2012 15:54 TwilightRain wrote: How about we stop bitching about minor info mistakes and be happy that it's not another one of those aricles like the CNN one or the one in the Raleigh newspaper?! Seriously, guys. Is there a thread on that Raleigh newspaper story? Didn't come up on search. | ||
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FallenEncore
United Kingdom64 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 28 2012 15:22 iNcontroL wrote: anna is in it! :D Glad bbc is throwing in some support. BBC has seemed to me to mean Better (British) Communications more and more. Too bad it's really just British, but that's a sign of good stuff anyway. As a matter of fact, if I ever bought tv I'd be content with top gear- therefore bbc. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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MisterD
Germany1338 Posts
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Evangelist
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Also, they showed the casting desk from an angle I've never seen before. How amazing is the BBC. I've watched 5 MLGs or more and I never know how the casting desk looked. | ||
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Kontys
Finland659 Posts
Edit: BBC doing a great job documenting as is their usual. | ||
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Ammoth
Sweden391 Posts
I love BBC now <3 | ||
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MigzR
Portugal89 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 28 2012 17:06 Ammoth wrote: They didn't call gaming an addiction :o I love BBC now <3 Top gear my good man! But yes, this has strengthened my strong liking for this network. | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
But can anyone explain to me how this "myth" carried over to Starcraft II and Korea? | ||
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mememolly
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On August 28 2012 15:49 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote: The debbie downers in this thread is ridic yeah it's pretty gross, first comment is some condescending know it all shit, mad douche chills from some people in here nice one BBC, a cool and more importantly fair report | ||
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attackmoveftw
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On August 28 2012 15:54 TwilightRain wrote: How about we stop bitching about minor info mistakes and be happy that it's not another one of those aricles like the CNN one or the one in the Raleigh newspaper?! Seriously, guys. This is why we can't have nice things. Also, the media not painting gaming in a bad light!? Something doesn't smell right here... | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On August 28 2012 15:53 houseurmusic wrote: LOL, if starcraft = basketball then league of legends = tiddly winks not the NFL and to vibe, SC2 is not anything like the NFL in Korea It is a pretty decent comparison and you insulting LoL gets your point no more points. That was one of the better pieces I have seen on E Sports. I don't suppose that was actually on their main channel? | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9390 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:33 KueKue wrote: It actually is. Korea is known for gaming , where as America is known for NFL/MLB (Competitive wise) Hearing a name like Tom Brady rings a bell in the US, as hearing BoxeR rings a bell in Korea. EDIT : Gaming, such as Tekken/League of Legends/Starcraft 2 (Sorry for broad word )No its kind of a myth (or at least overexaggerated). Sc1 in korea is not a mainstream sport, but a strong niche. | ||
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MisterD
Germany1338 Posts
On August 28 2012 17:01 Evangelist wrote: The way they did that was fantastic - no opinion piece whatsoever, they just let people from the scene talk about the scene. Also, they showed the casting desk from an angle I've never seen before. How amazing is the BBC. I've watched 5 MLGs or more and I never know how the casting desk looked. watch this: | ||
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
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Ezaura_au
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On August 28 2012 17:11 mememolly wrote: yeah it's pretty gross, first comment is some condescending know it all shit, mad douche chills from some people in here nice one BBC, a cool and more importantly fair report The BBC are a not for profit organisation. They must stay impartial in everything that they write, and broadcast on both TV and radio. It would naturally be better than a commercial station like NBC. | ||
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:33 KueKue wrote: It actually is. Korea is known for gaming , where as America is known for NFL/MLB (Competitive wise) Hearing a name like Tom Brady rings a bell in the US, as hearing BoxeR rings a bell in Korea. EDIT : Gaming, such as Tekken/League of Legends/Starcraft 2 (Sorry for broad word )That's not true. There are plenty of people who have no clue as to what an OSL/GSL is but if you mention the NFL/MLB or bring up popular events such as the Super Bowl, there's not a single hick out there who wouldn't at least perk up at the mention of the name. I don't like this whole "Korea is known for gaming" nonsense, just 'cause Koreans are doing well. Would you say "Koreans are known for SATs" because of the emphasis on getting 2400s? I didn't think so. | ||
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oZe
Sweden492 Posts
Now if blizzard would just smarten up and make regular full length movies about the sc/wow/diablo universes. I think it would happen a lot faster not to mention the money they would make. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
korea air force have a professional starcraft team ! so why bitching its "Not that big" guys even the military is playing it xD for me its 1-1 like tennis with just more fun to watch | ||
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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zawk9
United States427 Posts
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Rah
United States973 Posts
On August 28 2012 16:11 Rah wrote: Is there a thread on that Raleigh newspaper story? Didn't come up on search. Someone answered me now in a PM. Thanks. | ||
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MostGroce
United States104 Posts
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ImustnotfeaR
United Kingdom154 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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GeorgeyBeats
United Kingdom338 Posts
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
On August 28 2012 19:04 GeorgeyBeats wrote: Lets look at the positives out of this! It gives great positive publicity about the pro gaming scene, which I personally am amazed the BBC would do considering there normal draconian right wing mentality. This was a refreshing watch for me as a regular BBC watcher. BBC... Right wing mentality... What are you smoking? | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
On August 28 2012 18:51 Qikz wrote: Thankyou the BBC for once again showing you can make a really good impartial look at a subject. Makes me really proud that we have the BBC in our country for being non biased when it comes to things <3 Yeah, like that thing they did before the Euro's where they made it out to be that every Polish/Ukrainian football fan was some kind of neo nazi that kicked the shit out of everyone that wasn't white lol. BBC can be good but they can be biased and supid as hell too.  | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 28 2012 19:04 GeorgeyBeats wrote: Lets look at the positives out of this! It gives great positive publicity about the pro gaming scene, which I personally am amazed the BBC would do considering there normal draconian right wing mentality. This was a refreshing watch for me as a regular BBC watcher. What? BBC is impartial/fair in basically all their coverage. "Draconian right wing mentality" Did you just learn this term and just HAD to use it to show us your intellect, regardless of it being correct or not? OT: Like it or not guys, one day everyone reading this shall be a hipster, like/playing esports before it was cool. | ||
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Dispersion
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branflakes14
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On August 28 2012 15:49 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote: The debbie downers in this thread is ridic I believe it's called "perspective". | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
On August 28 2012 19:24 Dispersion wrote: SC2 is not popular here. I've only been here a few weeks and all I've ever talked about with Koreans regarding e-sports is Brood War pros.. well then get on it and spread the word :D OT: not bad.... | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
On August 28 2012 19:04 GeorgeyBeats wrote: Lets look at the positives out of this! It gives great positive publicity about the pro gaming scene, which I personally am amazed the BBC would do considering there normal draconian right wing mentality. This was a refreshing watch for me as a regular BBC watcher. Are you kidding? They have had left wing leanings for years now. Anyway, a nice little vid from the beeb providing a snapshot of MLG and gaming without the usual editorial voice over that some producers like diluting their news/doc pieces with. | ||
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jojoleb
Lebanon180 Posts
also who is the guy at 3:00 name, team and which game they play ? | ||
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Grackula
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Markwerf
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CursedRich
United Kingdom737 Posts
On August 28 2012 20:08 Markwerf wrote: Just one look at the audience or the average gamer and you will know e-sports won't ever be as big as the big sports. All the nerds in the audience make me cringe everytime The question is, would these people be at mainstream sports events? | ||
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
On August 28 2012 20:12 CursedRich wrote: The question is, would these people be at mainstream sports events? There's actually nothing attractive about football crowds, for example, either. They're full of fat men who like beer a little too much. Boxing crowds are incredibly nerdy. Unfortunately the stereotypes seem to damage gaming more than other sports. | ||
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WArped
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On August 28 2012 20:16 bardtown wrote: There's actually nothing attractive about football crowds, for example, either. They're full of fat men who like beer a little too much. Boxing crowds are incredibly nerdy. Unfortunately the stereotypes seem to damage gaming more than other sports. Football crowds so often have a few too many racist homophobic cunts, it gets the sport some flack but it never denies it the mainstream. Don't think anyone would imagine that ESPORTS will be as big as regular sports but it doesn't need to. It's a niche and we know it but that isn't a bad thing. | ||
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Gben592
United Kingdom281 Posts
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mostevil
United Kingdom611 Posts
On August 28 2012 15:22 iNcontroL wrote: anna is in it! All soft focus and interesting angles, somebody at the bbc wanted to make this look good. All the women were shown doing professional jobs about the place instead of focusing on the promo girls too. Gotta love the beeb for this. Shame its just webpage filler. If enough people hit it up though it'll stay in the most viewed. The exposure definitely can't hurt (unlike the CNN bs)! | ||
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Zer atai
United States691 Posts
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Tao367
United Kingdom324 Posts
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dynwar7
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LOLItsRyann
England551 Posts
On August 28 2012 15:54 TwilightRain wrote: How about we stop bitching about minor info mistakes and be happy that it's not another one of those aricles like the CNN one or the one in the Raleigh newspaper?! Seriously, guys. Thank you, finally someone that sees the point. Well done sir. Opposing the usual first page knitpicking people that TL has to offer. "Oh hey guys look, a genuine little bit about esports becoming more widespread and known amongst the world!" "LOL, they got some facts wrong." -_- | ||
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Kasu
United Kingdom345 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:24 Lineridarz wrote: Very cool. It's nice to see a UK news website covering esports. Definitely this. Hopefully we will soon see some improvements in the UK media's attitude to eSports and gaming in general. | ||
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KillingVector
United States96 Posts
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Uvantak
Uruguay1381 Posts
Here it is a Youtube mirror of the video, for those like me that can't see the vid in the bbc's player | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On August 28 2012 23:49 LOLItsRyann wrote: Thank you, finally someone that sees the point. Well done sir. Opposing the usual first page knitpicking people that TL has to offer. "Oh hey guys look, a genuine little bit about esports becoming more widespread and known amongst the world!" "LOL, they got some facts wrong." -_- I'm glad there's a positive article on esports :D more good exposure for us means it's more likely that there will be sponsors and stuff | ||
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magicaljobo
Australia113 Posts
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InoyouS2
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+1000 BBC. | ||
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m1rk3
Canada412 Posts
Very well made video. Glad to see e-sports getting more positive exposure from major media sources rather than just National Geographic or national channels in Korea. But honestly, I doubt that the masses will swarm to e-sports. For example, out of 1800 people in my school, only 10 of us have an interest in e-sports and only 2 actually devoting ourselves to learning all about it. Sports like American and European football, as well as the Superbowl is something at least half of the school tunes into. A little growth is better than no growth. This is still all young. that's 10 people from one school, think about 100 or 1000 schools. | ||
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