EPTLegal Article on Starcraft Broadcasting - Page 2
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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StarStruck
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Anyway first season it says the following teams participated: CJ Entus, Hanbit Stars, KTF MagicNs, Lecaf Oz, Samsung KHAN, STX SouL, and WeMade FOX. In the thread you posted it appears only five teams were willing to participate in season 4. Interesting. All I remember is there wasn't consensus between the teams throughout the GOM Classics run. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 25 2012 12:27 ArvickHero wrote: That's somewhat correct. KeSPA as an entity never banned participation from the GOM leagues, OGN, MBC and eSTRO (parent company owned Proleague) had never participated in the GOM Classics from the start. The reason was because they saw GOM as another rival to their broadcasted leagues, and was not interested in support another challenger to what was seen as some as an oversaturated market. The rest of the teams that withdrew decided that a fourth league was too much for their A-teamers. There were still five teams interested in participating for a fourth season, but GOM had instead decided it would not be worth running a league with less than half of the KeSPA teams playing in There are rumours saying that KeSPA itself was pressuring the teams to withdraw, but without anything to back it up, they're just rumours .. Point taken. Still, the fact that KeSPA is labeled as a non-profit organization .. that changes nothing? You definitely know better than me and yes because KeSPA is a division of the government at the same time they do consider themselves as a non-profit organization and they would argue the money gets funneled right back into the system and their overhead costs. It's an awkward can of worms because you have for-profit companies running it and at the same time they're still looking out for their best interests. That and those sponsors/corporations still act on their own at times as we've seen with the GOM Classic debacle. As you said OGN and MBC didn't want any part of GOM's business even though their mediums are different they still view them as competitors. That and the teams weren't too thrilled about playing in PL/OSL/MSL/GOM and all the qualifiers. Blizzard really wanted to audit KeSPA when they filled the lawsuit so they could see exactly where all the money was going. Let's just put it this way. There's a lot of gray areas especially when your dealing with for-profit organizations running a non-profit organization and division of the government. KeSPA would argue they're seperate divisions/departments and should be treated as such. | ||
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
On August 25 2012 12:28 Doodsmack wrote: Hopefully this thread doesn't turn into a legal argument among people who don't know jack shit about the law lol. We're all lawyers on the Internet! | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
I remember a guy posting a blog maybe 6-8 months ago talking about how he was the shit and he was only an undergrad law school student. Now that was a good read. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 25 2012 12:48 StarStruck wrote: I remember a guy posting a blog maybe 6-8 months ago talking about how he was the shit and he was only an undergrad law school student. Now that was a good read. Under grad law student? What prelaw? Everyone who is thinking "hey I want to be a lawyer" is an undergrad law student. The man was like all other college students. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 25 2012 12:52 Plansix wrote: Under grad law student? What prelaw? Everyone who is thinking "hey I want to be a lawyer" is an undergrad law student. The man was like all other college students. Oh no man wish I could find it. I know the mods changed the title a few times. I forget what the abbreviation for someone who thinks they are a know it all. All I remember is the guy was from Australia. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On August 25 2012 12:55 StarStruck wrote: Oh no man wish I could find it. I know the mods changed the title a few times. I forget what the abbreviation for someone who thinks they are a know it all. All I remember is the guy was from Australia. This is completely irrelevant to the OP, but many Australian universities offer genuine undergraduate law courses. They're equivalent to the normal prelaw->law, but it's fused into a single degree and rearranged slightly, so that they're taking dedicated law classes from day one alongside the more general stuff. They graduate as qualified solicitors. Australia's university system is quite a bit more focused than the US one. It has pros and cons. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
Now, even if the laws do work on Blizzard's side, I really don't like it. It would be like them trying to charge streamers. Even if a streamers main attraction is he has personality or entertains a player (destiny or whoever). Also I don't like Blizzard controlling everything mainly because they have a tendency to fuck things up and they basically had nothing to do with ESPORTS until the train was already at full speed. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 25 2012 13:17 Belisarius wrote: This is completely irrelevant to the OP, but many Australian universities offer genuine undergraduate law courses. They're equivalent to the normal prelaw->law, but it's fused into a single degree and rearranged slightly, so that they're taking dedicated law classes from day one alongside the more general stuff. They graduate as qualified solicitors. Australia's university system is quite a bit more focused than the US one. It has pros and cons. Nah, man you really have to see that thread for yourself to understand what we're digressing about after Plansix's comment. I'm all for you defending the Australian programs but this guy was really off his rocker. I'm sure someone else will remember about the thread I'm talking about. I guess I could go through my posting history and find it but it will take a while. BRB. Nevermind, next to impossible to find it because the history only goes back to ten pages. That only goes to like June 8th lol. Son of a gun, I actually found it on when i typed my name and lawyer in the engine. Anyway, here you go: I'm a borderline genius lawyer - AMA | ||
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Anarion55
United States72 Posts
On August 25 2012 13:44 NoobSkills wrote: Interesting read, but probably not even close to the actual story. If Blizzard had them by the balls, they probably would not have settled especially without the right to audit them and for a lower licensing fee. My guess is that there is conflicting issues in international IP law, and Korean IP law. You also mention US IP law, but how does that even factor in if the crimes are international and/or taken place in Korea? The U.S. law is relevant because the Korean courts would have looked to how the U.S. does things. There just isn't that much precedent in many countries. However, you're right that it's not the full story and it tends to be true that courts find somewhat...inventive...ways to rule for people from their own country, which is probably why Blizzard settled. On August 25 2012 13:44 NoobSkills wrote: Now, even if the laws do work on Blizzard's side, I really don't like it. It would be like them trying to charge streamers. Arguably, they could do this, they just don't care. | ||
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pOnarreT
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On August 25 2012 13:46 StarStruck wrote: Nah, man you really have to see that thread for yourself to understand what we're digressing about after Plansix's comment. I'm all for you defending the Australian programs but this guy was really off his rocker. I'm sure someone else will remember about the thread I'm talking about. I guess I could go through my posting history and find it but it will take a while. BRB. Nevermind, next to impossible to find it because the history only goes back to ten pages. That only goes to like June 8th lol. Son of a gun, I actually found it on when i typed my name and lawyer in the engine. Anyway, here you go: I'm a borderline genius lawyer - AMA Wow, that was a fun read. | ||
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Akhee
Brazil811 Posts
On August 25 2012 09:56 SpiZe wrote: Nice article, the timing of this is pretty spectacular  yea hes very lucky to have everything going on now oh, very nice article btw | ||
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algorithm0r
Canada486 Posts
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On August 25 2012 12:48 StarStruck wrote: I remember a guy posting a blog maybe 6-8 months ago talking about how he was the shit and he was only an undergrad law school student. Now that was a good read. Oh my dear god that was the best blog ever. Need to find it...need to find it. Edit: Oh, found. <3 Also, the essay is really well done. I think there might be inaccuracies, but they relate to very peripheral issues and even if they should have importance to the actual case, it was a cogent legal argument. | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Thanks for sharing this! Edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=285944 this thing? lol | ||
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Chemist391
United States366 Posts
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y0su
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