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Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
August 27 2012 20:40 GMT
#221
Are these caster jobs just given out or do casters apply for them?

Can the community have a choice on who we'd rather listen to?
Luisa_2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany200 Posts
August 27 2012 20:44 GMT
#222
So no OSL english commentary since Doa isn't able to come and well Moletrap... Let me say I'd rather like to see him stay at LOL.
"Tasteless,why did the Colossus fall over?" "Why?" " Because it was imbalanced"
Altar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States577 Posts
August 27 2012 20:45 GMT
#223
I feel like I need to post that I enjoy Moletrap.
Heavens to Betsy
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 20:53:07
August 27 2012 20:51 GMT
#224
On August 28 2012 05:40 Pwnographics wrote:
Are these caster jobs just given out or do casters apply for them?

Can the community have a choice on who we'd rather listen to?

This isn't how business works.

And I think you're overlooking how difficult it would be to convince someone to move to Korea and get the necessary visas. I think you're also overestimating how many extra views a tournament would get if they chose one commentator over the other.

For the majority of people, Moletrap is a great commentator. Keep in mind that all the people posting in this thread combined likely represent a tiny fraction of the daily viewership.
Moderator
SickeL
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
110 Posts
August 27 2012 20:54 GMT
#225
On August 28 2012 05:51 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 05:40 Pwnographics wrote:
Are these caster jobs just given out or do casters apply for them?

Can the community have a choice on who we'd rather listen to?

This isn't how business works.

And I think you're overlooking how difficult it would be to convince someone to move to Korea and get the necessary visas. I think you're also overestimating how many extra views a tournament would get if they chose one commentator over the other.

For the majority of people, Moletrap is a great commentator. Keep in mind that all the people posting in this thread combined likely represent a tiny fraction of the daily viewership.


Yea, but... Moletrap. I know I won't be watching it because of him, if they managed to get, say, Sayle to cast with someone, I'd watch every minute of it.
A wise man once said "Oppa Gangnam style."
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 20:56:37
August 27 2012 20:55 GMT
#226
On August 28 2012 05:40 Pwnographics wrote:
Are these caster jobs just given out or do casters apply for them?

Can the community have a choice on who we'd rather listen to?

This isn't 'So you Think you can Cast' or 'American Caster', homie. Moletrap is there, available, and has the experience. Even though plenty of people dislike him, relocating another caster would be too much of a hassle. Prime example: DoA.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 27 2012 20:59 GMT
#227
I love Moletrap, and he produce content, which is always better than no content. I think he can do a good job as analyst, paired with a play-by-play guy such as DoA. But the idea of him solo-casting doesn't generate a ton of excitement.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
August 27 2012 21:01 GMT
#228
On August 28 2012 05:54 SickeL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 05:51 Chill wrote:
On August 28 2012 05:40 Pwnographics wrote:
Are these caster jobs just given out or do casters apply for them?

Can the community have a choice on who we'd rather listen to?

This isn't how business works.

And I think you're overlooking how difficult it would be to convince someone to move to Korea and get the necessary visas. I think you're also overestimating how many extra views a tournament would get if they chose one commentator over the other.

For the majority of people, Moletrap is a great commentator. Keep in mind that all the people posting in this thread combined likely represent a tiny fraction of the daily viewership.


Yea, but... Moletrap. I know I won't be watching it because of him, if they managed to get, say, Sayle to cast with someone, I'd watch every minute of it.

If you're posting in this thread, then I bet you will watch. You just won't enjoy it as much as if Sayle was commentating. To OSL, that doesn't matter.
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Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
August 27 2012 21:04 GMT
#229
On August 28 2012 05:59 ragz_gt wrote:
I love Moletrap, and he produce content, which is always better than no content. I think he can do a good job as analyst, paired with a play-by-play guy such as DoA. But the idea of him solo-casting doesn't generate a ton of excitement.


I'm sorry, but Moletrap as an analyst? I like Moletrap but he is not an analyst, not even close.
You need to construct additional pylons.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
August 27 2012 21:05 GMT
#230
I don't get why so many people hate on mole trap. Generally he's a pretty good commentator. The only annoying thing is when he gets so excited his voice goes into the stratosphere, which is cancelled out by temporarily muting the stream.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
August 27 2012 21:06 GMT
#231
On August 28 2012 06:01 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 05:54 SickeL wrote:
On August 28 2012 05:51 Chill wrote:
On August 28 2012 05:40 Pwnographics wrote:
Are these caster jobs just given out or do casters apply for them?

Can the community have a choice on who we'd rather listen to?

This isn't how business works.

And I think you're overlooking how difficult it would be to convince someone to move to Korea and get the necessary visas. I think you're also overestimating how many extra views a tournament would get if they chose one commentator over the other.

For the majority of people, Moletrap is a great commentator. Keep in mind that all the people posting in this thread combined likely represent a tiny fraction of the daily viewership.


Yea, but... Moletrap. I know I won't be watching it because of him, if they managed to get, say, Sayle to cast with someone, I'd watch every minute of it.

If you're posting in this thread, then I bet you will watch. You just won't enjoy it as much as if Sayle was commentating. To OSL, that doesn't matter.

If people weren't given the option, they probably would suffer through (or mute), but there is always the option of the Korean cast. I would much rather listen to a language that I can only half understand than listen to Moletraps voicecracking screams that make the entire thing unenjoyable.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 27 2012 21:08 GMT
#232
On August 28 2012 06:04 Fluffboll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 05:59 ragz_gt wrote:
I love Moletrap, and he produce content, which is always better than no content. I think he can do a good job as analyst, paired with a play-by-play guy such as DoA. But the idea of him solo-casting doesn't generate a ton of excitement.


I'm sorry, but Moletrap as an analyst? I like Moletrap but he is not an analyst, not even close.


I know, but he is a better analyst than play-by-play. At least he would sounds analytic, it's not like there are many analysts who are right more than half the time or that people care.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
August 27 2012 21:10 GMT
#233
On August 28 2012 06:08 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 06:04 Fluffboll wrote:
On August 28 2012 05:59 ragz_gt wrote:
I love Moletrap, and he produce content, which is always better than no content. I think he can do a good job as analyst, paired with a play-by-play guy such as DoA. But the idea of him solo-casting doesn't generate a ton of excitement.


I'm sorry, but Moletrap as an analyst? I like Moletrap but he is not an analyst, not even close.


I know, but he is a better analyst than play-by-play. At least he would sounds analytic, it's not like there are many analysts who are right more than half the time or that people care.


True enough. In any case I'll probably enjoy the OSL casts with Moletrap
You need to construct additional pylons.
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 21:22:11
August 27 2012 21:14 GMT
#234
On August 28 2012 05:51 Chill wrote:
For the majority of people, Moletrap is a great commentator. Keep in mind that all the people posting in this thread combined likely represent a tiny fraction of the daily viewership.


Actually any time ive ever seen feedback about moletrap it was negative in terms of his casting ability but positive about his personality. Like he is a nice guy and he does provide a lot of content for us so far which is awesome. The thing is he gets things wrong a lot, he cuts across people and his voice is pretty annoying which all 3 of those things adds up to a poor experience. I will be either looking for someone else streaming commentary like Sayle or just muting the stream.

Side note I saw the interview with artosis thing on youtube and he proved he didn't really know much about the moba scene either with his quotes about HoN and he showed by what he said is a game he never played. I don't really respect anyone that shits all over anything without playing it or even doing research about it. (not speaking as a fan boy of HoN or anything I haven't played the game in a while myself but still its to be noted.)
CarlosOmse
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany507 Posts
August 27 2012 21:14 GMT
#235
Well i dont like Moletrap but i'm a big fan of Doa, we'll see how it's going to be
a book is like a mirror if a monkey looks into it no philosopher will look back
jimbob615
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Uruguay455 Posts
August 27 2012 21:38 GMT
#236
On August 28 2012 05:51 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 05:40 Pwnographics wrote:
Are these caster jobs just given out or do casters apply for them?

Can the community have a choice on who we'd rather listen to?

This isn't how business works.

And I think you're overlooking how difficult it would be to convince someone to move to Korea and get the necessary visas. I think you're also overestimating how many extra views a tournament would get if they chose one commentator over the other.

For the majority of people, Moletrap is a great commentator. Keep in mind that all the people posting in this thread combined likely represent a tiny fraction of the daily viewership.

Just for the record I am one of the presumably silent majority that extremely dislikes several aspects of his casting
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
August 27 2012 21:46 GMT
#237
On August 28 2012 06:38 jimbob615 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 05:51 Chill wrote:
On August 28 2012 05:40 Pwnographics wrote:
Are these caster jobs just given out or do casters apply for them?

Can the community have a choice on who we'd rather listen to?

This isn't how business works.

And I think you're overlooking how difficult it would be to convince someone to move to Korea and get the necessary visas. I think you're also overestimating how many extra views a tournament would get if they chose one commentator over the other.

For the majority of people, Moletrap is a great commentator. Keep in mind that all the people posting in this thread combined likely represent a tiny fraction of the daily viewership.

Just for the record I am one of the presumably silent majority that extremely dislikes several aspects of his casting

But I'm from an even more silent, more major majority that is perfectly content to pleased with his casting.
Who dat ninja?
FallenEncore
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom64 Posts
August 27 2012 21:52 GMT
#238



see, Moletrap got me into sc when i was scanning through clips on youtube on the voltak account, i enjoy him as a color commentator but not as an analyst, i enjoy his casting and his recent interviews, i like constructive criticism guys but this is just cyber bulling Gratz to moletrap and i hope doa gets well soon
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
August 27 2012 21:57 GMT
#239
what the hell is with all this hate around moletrap...
Victoria Concordia Crescit
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
August 27 2012 21:59 GMT
#240
On August 28 2012 06:08 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 06:04 Fluffboll wrote:
On August 28 2012 05:59 ragz_gt wrote:
I love Moletrap, and he produce content, which is always better than no content. I think he can do a good job as analyst, paired with a play-by-play guy such as DoA. But the idea of him solo-casting doesn't generate a ton of excitement.


I'm sorry, but Moletrap as an analyst? I like Moletrap but he is not an analyst, not even close.


I know, but he is a better analyst than play-by-play. At least he would sounds analytic, it's not like there are many analysts who are right more than half the time or that people care.


Ret tweeted a valid criticism about the level of casting for SC2 this weekend. It was awesome. Criticism of casters on TL usually results in warnings, so I was thrilled to see a professional player (and part of Team Liquid at that) ripping into casters for their lack of knowledge and blatant miss-calls.

Speaking to Ret's point, I don't think Moletrap will make this any better; rather, I think he will make it far worse. He is not at a level as a player to deliver high-level analysis. His vocal inflections, volume situation, etc., are up for debate as to how horrific or entertaining they are; his analytical ability is not.

We need charismatic, intelligent, knowledgeable casters who aren't looking to self-promote every three seconds or lay down another inept joke. We need casters who don't make ludicrous claims about X being ahead of Y, only to see Y crush them moments later because -- guess what? -- they were never ahead. We need the proper balance of explanation (for noobs) and high-level analysis (gas timings, build refinements, scouting reactions, etc) that keep the hardcore happy. I don't think very many casters provide the above, least of all Moletrap.

Apollo and Artosis remain the crown jewels.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
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