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Starke
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal11 Posts
August 23 2012 02:21 GMT
#481
SaviorSC2, I could be mistaken but if I had to put money on it he's sAviOr from SCBW, who needs no introduction.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
August 23 2012 02:23 GMT
#482
On August 23 2012 11:21 Starke wrote:
SaviorSC2, I could be mistaken but if I had to put money on it he's sAviOr from SCBW, who needs no introduction.


It's Xenocider.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 02:36:14
August 23 2012 02:35 GMT
#483
On August 23 2012 08:14 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 08:12 Kenpark wrote:
I dont get why there should be 8 Kespa players seeded in the first place. I mean it would be fun to see them lose vs some NA ladder heroes, but 8 fucking seeds, paid flight etc. For what ? They arent even top tier.
Foreigener vs Korean is what most people wanna see, so imo they should try to bring some more foreign talent.


Someone hasn't been watching WCS Korea, some of the Kespa guys are already better than a lot of GOM players.


No they are not! Winning one BO3 means nothing you should know that. How many times have unknown foreigners beat Korean code S players? Are they also better then them now?. Goody better then Nestea and MMA now?. Seriously some of you BW fans need to come down to earth and get a grip on reality.
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
bLecK
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia625 Posts
August 23 2012 02:43 GMT
#484
Woo finally MKP making a return.
Yoo Ara | Lee Min Jung /Suzy/Taeyeon/Eunji/ NaRae/ Alice
foxmulder_ms
Profile Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 02:45:04
August 23 2012 02:44 GMT
#485
wow, so much about kespa invites. I am sorry but this is kindo lame
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
August 23 2012 02:46 GMT
#486
Meh. No Kespa no interest.

tranmillitary
Profile Joined August 2011
210 Posts
August 23 2012 02:51 GMT
#487
On August 23 2012 09:49 OrbitalPlane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 09:38 NrGmonk wrote:
Is icecream GoSuicecream?

liquipedia says so


This would be my top 20 from the open bracked:
I have to say this is looking pretty stacked.
HuK
TheStC
IdrA
MarineKing
Killer
ThorZaIN
Crank
SeleCT
JYP
DeMusliM
Heart
Leenock
Beastyqt
SLush
TT1
asd
Hawk
HwangSin
suppy
ViBE

Sadly only 8 of them will make it out into the groups. The groups could look a lot more scary. =(


unless they all end up in the same bracket... This is who i see making into group play.

1. MKP
2. STC
3. Thorzain
4. Crank
5. JYP
6. Heart
7. Leenock
8. ASD

Huk has been struggling... barely top 10 in the Canada WCS. Idra could make it with a good draw. Heart/MKP/JYP/Leenock are code S next season again so they should of been seeded any ways. ASD/theSTC are close to code S as well.

There's gonna be upsets, but I'm crossing my fingers MKP makes it through. SC2 rating for the weekend depends on MKP making it through.
Xlyem
Profile Joined May 2012
United States9 Posts
August 23 2012 03:01 GMT
#488
good luck to
TubbyTheFat
RootPucK
Hendralisk
"I play games not girls' -Day[9]
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 03:05:13
August 23 2012 03:04 GMT
#489
On August 23 2012 11:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 08:14 Dodgin wrote:
On August 23 2012 08:12 Kenpark wrote:
I dont get why there should be 8 Kespa players seeded in the first place. I mean it would be fun to see them lose vs some NA ladder heroes, but 8 fucking seeds, paid flight etc. For what ? They arent even top tier.
Foreigener vs Korean is what most people wanna see, so imo they should try to bring some more foreign talent.


Someone hasn't been watching WCS Korea, some of the Kespa guys are already better than a lot of GOM players.


No they are not! Winning one BO3 means nothing you should know that. How many times have unknown foreigners beat Korean code S players? Are they also better then them now?. Goody better then Nestea and MMA now?. Seriously some of you BW fans need to come down to earth and get a grip on reality.

You also need to kind of get a grip. I've never played bw so not much of a fan but to seriously think its random flukes for BW players to take several games off code S players in WCG is stretching it. How many NA players take games off not even Code S but rather just koreans?

For every set an American wins, Koreans win another 100. So calling it flukes is too far. Also fyi, if you're not familiar with goody or the EU scene, he was one of the best TvT's (top 3) in Europe despite the stupid "low apm" comments. Not saying he's better than MMA but he was decent enough to take series off him.
RedFive
Profile Joined July 2012
United States4 Posts
August 23 2012 03:27 GMT
#490
Aww =( violet was going to be here =( Rest in peace Violet
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. - The Dude
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
August 23 2012 03:32 GMT
#491
On August 23 2012 12:27 RedFive wrote:
Aww =( violet was going to be here =( Rest in peace Violet

(Z)AZUBU.viOLet (Kim Dong Hwan (김동환)) is alive and well. It's (P)KT.Violet (Woo Jung Ho (우정호)) who passed away.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 03:38:26
August 23 2012 03:38 GMT
#492
you heard it here first

MY BOY BINSKI WILL TAKE THE WHOLE TOURNAMENT BY STORM
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 03:44:46
August 23 2012 03:44 GMT
#493
On August 23 2012 12:04 sekritzzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 11:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
On August 23 2012 08:14 Dodgin wrote:
On August 23 2012 08:12 Kenpark wrote:
I dont get why there should be 8 Kespa players seeded in the first place. I mean it would be fun to see them lose vs some NA ladder heroes, but 8 fucking seeds, paid flight etc. For what ? They arent even top tier.
Foreigener vs Korean is what most people wanna see, so imo they should try to bring some more foreign talent.


Someone hasn't been watching WCS Korea, some of the Kespa guys are already better than a lot of GOM players.


No they are not! Winning one BO3 means nothing you should know that. How many times have unknown foreigners beat Korean code S players? Are they also better then them now?. Goody better then Nestea and MMA now?. Seriously some of you BW fans need to come down to earth and get a grip on reality.

You also need to kind of get a grip. I've never played bw so not much of a fan but to seriously think its random flukes for BW players to take several games off code S players in WCG is stretching it. How many NA players take games off not even Code S but rather just koreans?

For every set an American wins, Koreans win another 100. So calling it flukes is too far. Also fyi, if you're not familiar with goody or the EU scene, he was one of the best TvT's (top 3) in Europe despite the stupid "low apm" comments. Not saying he's better than MMA but he was decent enough to take series off him.


Its just a fluke atm until we get a larger data set. Any GM or high master player can take a game or 2 of a code S player. It all comes down to luck/maps and there current form(good or bad days). Calling the Kespa players better or equal to there GSL counterparts is hilarious because we got an even larger data set with some unknown foreigner players who got 2-3 wins vs GSL code S players and I for once wouldn't call them better or equal to the GSL code s players. Time will tell we need a much larger set of data before you can start saying stuff like that.

Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
August 23 2012 04:20 GMT
#494
On August 23 2012 12:44 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 12:04 sekritzzz wrote:
On August 23 2012 11:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
On August 23 2012 08:14 Dodgin wrote:
On August 23 2012 08:12 Kenpark wrote:
I dont get why there should be 8 Kespa players seeded in the first place. I mean it would be fun to see them lose vs some NA ladder heroes, but 8 fucking seeds, paid flight etc. For what ? They arent even top tier.
Foreigener vs Korean is what most people wanna see, so imo they should try to bring some more foreign talent.


Someone hasn't been watching WCS Korea, some of the Kespa guys are already better than a lot of GOM players.


No they are not! Winning one BO3 means nothing you should know that. How many times have unknown foreigners beat Korean code S players? Are they also better then them now?. Goody better then Nestea and MMA now?. Seriously some of you BW fans need to come down to earth and get a grip on reality.

You also need to kind of get a grip. I've never played bw so not much of a fan but to seriously think its random flukes for BW players to take several games off code S players in WCG is stretching it. How many NA players take games off not even Code S but rather just koreans?

For every set an American wins, Koreans win another 100. So calling it flukes is too far. Also fyi, if you're not familiar with goody or the EU scene, he was one of the best TvT's (top 3) in Europe despite the stupid "low apm" comments. Not saying he's better than MMA but he was decent enough to take series off him.


Its just a fluke atm until we get a larger data set. Any GM or high master player can take a game or 2 of a code S player. It all comes down to luck/maps and there current form(good or bad days). Calling the Kespa players better or equal to there GSL counterparts is hilarious because we got an even larger data set with some unknown foreigner players who got 2-3 wins vs GSL code S players and I for once wouldn't call them better or equal to the GSL code s players. Time will tell we need a much larger set of data before you can start saying stuff like that.



So beating Gumiho, Miya, Leenock, Sc, Happy, Puzzle, Genius, etc in a Bo3 in the same tournament is just a fluke huh.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 23 2012 04:29 GMT
#495
On August 23 2012 13:20 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 12:44 Benjamin99 wrote:
On August 23 2012 12:04 sekritzzz wrote:
On August 23 2012 11:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
On August 23 2012 08:14 Dodgin wrote:
On August 23 2012 08:12 Kenpark wrote:
I dont get why there should be 8 Kespa players seeded in the first place. I mean it would be fun to see them lose vs some NA ladder heroes, but 8 fucking seeds, paid flight etc. For what ? They arent even top tier.
Foreigener vs Korean is what most people wanna see, so imo they should try to bring some more foreign talent.


Someone hasn't been watching WCS Korea, some of the Kespa guys are already better than a lot of GOM players.


No they are not! Winning one BO3 means nothing you should know that. How many times have unknown foreigners beat Korean code S players? Are they also better then them now?. Goody better then Nestea and MMA now?. Seriously some of you BW fans need to come down to earth and get a grip on reality.

You also need to kind of get a grip. I've never played bw so not much of a fan but to seriously think its random flukes for BW players to take several games off code S players in WCG is stretching it. How many NA players take games off not even Code S but rather just koreans?

For every set an American wins, Koreans win another 100. So calling it flukes is too far. Also fyi, if you're not familiar with goody or the EU scene, he was one of the best TvT's (top 3) in Europe despite the stupid "low apm" comments. Not saying he's better than MMA but he was decent enough to take series off him.


Its just a fluke atm until we get a larger data set. Any GM or high master player can take a game or 2 of a code S player. It all comes down to luck/maps and there current form(good or bad days). Calling the Kespa players better or equal to there GSL counterparts is hilarious because we got an even larger data set with some unknown foreigner players who got 2-3 wins vs GSL code S players and I for once wouldn't call them better or equal to the GSL code s players. Time will tell we need a much larger set of data before you can start saying stuff like that.



So beating Gumiho, Miya, Leenock, Sc, Happy, Puzzle, Genius, etc in a Bo3 in the same tournament is just a fluke huh.

based on the games I watched, yeah.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 23 2012 04:29 GMT
#496
On August 23 2012 11:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 08:14 Dodgin wrote:
On August 23 2012 08:12 Kenpark wrote:
I dont get why there should be 8 Kespa players seeded in the first place. I mean it would be fun to see them lose vs some NA ladder heroes, but 8 fucking seeds, paid flight etc. For what ? They arent even top tier.
Foreigener vs Korean is what most people wanna see, so imo they should try to bring some more foreign talent.


Someone hasn't been watching WCS Korea, some of the Kespa guys are already better than a lot of GOM players.


No they are not! Winning one BO3 means nothing you should know that. How many times have unknown foreigners beat Korean code S players? Are they also better then them now?. Goody better then Nestea and MMA now?. Seriously some of you BW fans need to come down to earth and get a grip on reality.


3 of the representatives of Korea for WCS Asia are Kespa players, that's out of 7 of them who were in the tournament...I wouldn't call it a fluke at all.

I have a good grip on reality, all you have to do is look at the liquipedia brackets and see how well they did. It's a lot better than winning one bo3.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
August 23 2012 04:32 GMT
#497
On August 23 2012 00:26 Caesarion wrote:
No KeSPa? Aww...


-.- I had already drawn up my JD cheerful...
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 23 2012 04:35 GMT
#498
Scarlett for WCS champion.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
August 23 2012 04:48 GMT
#499
Well gl to Stephano and viOlet
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
August 23 2012 05:35 GMT
#500
On August 23 2012 12:32 jobber123rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 12:27 RedFive wrote:
Aww =( violet was going to be here =( Rest in peace Violet

(Z)AZUBU.viOLet (Kim Dong Hwan (김동환)) is alive and well. It's (P)KT.Violet (Woo Jung Ho (우정호)) who passed away.


I know it's not their fault, but I just get so enraged seeing this shit. How can you not tell the difference?? >.< especially at a sensitive time like this
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
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