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On July 21 2012 08:12 Liquid`NonY wrote:
It's just that puffery may be legally okay but I don't believe it meets standards we ought to hold ourselves to on the forums. If a statement isn't meant to be taken seriously, it must have some value outside of its literal meaning in order to be worth our time, like humor.
The relationship a consumer has with an advertisement is very different from the relationship one of our forum members has with a post. When claims are made that can't be backed up, especially by people who are not veterans of our community, we call bullshit and get rid of them.
edit: In other words, if everyone thinks puffery is now a perfectly acceptable defense of claims made in posts, then you've all lost your fucking minds.
Why so serious..? Welcome to 2012. Tons of companies use vague bullshit statements like this, what's the big deal? Most sponsorship announcement posts here have similar puffery. Anyone with half a brain isn't taking it literally, no more than a chick is going to really believe half the brags some bro hitting on her in the bar makes.
One can look to Teamliquid's own sponsors to find puffery. From TLs sponors page "Tagalicious The easiest way to organize your music." So, where's the proof that their product is the "easiest"? No more proof that RC is "leading".
The world is full of boasts and bullshit, we're arrogant and prideful creatures, I hardly think a tiny harmless bit of hot air like this is such a pressing issue we need to rise up against when theres things that actually matter going on. Guess I just "lost my fucking mind" though, classy, I'd like proof of that statement please, a written and signed doctor's assetment perhaps 
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On July 25 2012 01:29 darkest44 wrote:
One can look to Teamliquid's own sponsors to find puffery. From TLs sponors page "Tagalicious The easiest way to organize your music." So, where's the proof that their product is the "easiest"?
On their own website, yes.
Nobody is trying to change the nature of marketing (as obnoxious as the nature of marketing is), just to prevent TL's community forums from becoming a glorified ad board.
Then again, if TL has all but given up on its proclaimed standards and press releases on a business arrangement between two companies now make it into "community news", complaining about it seems pretty futile at this point.
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checked out their software because of this. It's working already ^___^
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The tag is EG NAME [RC] or RC
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On July 25 2012 01:29 darkest44 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 08:12 Liquid`NonY wrote:
It's just that puffery may be legally okay but I don't believe it meets standards we ought to hold ourselves to on the forums. If a statement isn't meant to be taken seriously, it must have some value outside of its literal meaning in order to be worth our time, like humor.
The relationship a consumer has with an advertisement is very different from the relationship one of our forum members has with a post. When claims are made that can't be backed up, especially by people who are not veterans of our community, we call bullshit and get rid of them.
edit: In other words, if everyone thinks puffery is now a perfectly acceptable defense of claims made in posts, then you've all lost your fucking minds. Why so serious..? Welcome to 2012. Tons of companies use vague bullshit statements like this, what's the big deal? Most sponsorship announcement posts here have similar puffery. Anyone with half a brain isn't taking it literally, no more than a chick is going to really believe half the brags some bro hitting on her in the bar makes. One can look to Teamliquid's own sponsors to find puffery. From TLs sponors page "Tagalicious The easiest way to organize your music." So, where's the proof that their product is the "easiest"? No more proof that RC is "leading". The world is full of boasts and bullshit, we're arrogant and prideful creatures, I hardly think a tiny harmless bit of hot air like this is such a pressing issue we need to rise up against when theres things that actually matter going on. Guess I just "lost my fucking mind" though, classy, I'd like proof of that statement please, a written and signed doctor's assetment perhaps
If you cant be relevant by results, try to be relevant by being controversial.
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Are some people actually so offended by "a leading", "premier", "a world leader" or are they just looking for something to pick on?
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On July 21 2012 07:07 NovemberstOrm wrote:
"... , North America’s premier professional gaming team and a world leader in e-Sports ...
O . o self-praise!
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On July 25 2012 04:36 Sein wrote:
Are some people actually so offended by "a leading", "premier", "a world leader" or are they just looking for something to pick on?
the second option most likely, just like the post above yours 
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I was actually curious, I had no idea they're so popular in Asia
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Why are people speculating that EG will buy Stephano now? Is he really about to become teamless or are these rumours just (bad) jokes?
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On July 25 2012 02:53 Ayomeer wrote:
checked out their software because of this. It's working already ^___^
Well same here and to be honest it looks very nice. Gonna check it out
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On July 24 2012 13:15 LeSioN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 12:19 forgehammer wrote:On July 24 2012 11:23 walklightwhat wrote:On July 24 2012 11:18 Jaaaaasper wrote:On July 24 2012 11:08 julysun wrote:On July 21 2012 07:09 sickoota wrote:
Damn man the bussiness side of EG must be sick they keep getting sponsors despite horrendous results and polarizing (at best) personalities. agreed Seconded. But we have to remember that eg is in esports as well, so its not just the sc2 branch getting sponsored. You say polarizing like it would have a negative effect on marketing. Half the community may hate him, but that hasn't stopped them from obsessing over everything IdrA says or does. Yeah, it's like Fox News or Howard Stern. People who like it listen to it, but The Daily Show pays more attention to Fox News than anyone else, and people who dislike Stern are way more likely to jump on anything he does than the people who don't absolutely love his show. you really went in-depth with your brain fart there. anyways, whats all the hate for eg about? so idra, incontrol and machine are worthless progamers and Huk dosent win every tournament? they still have the best results of any foreign team, period. Edit to prove my point: second highest prize money winnings globallysecond to IM (mvp and nestea...)
You can subtract ~$50000 from Puma's winnings when he was on TSL, ~$45000 from Thorzain's and ~$26,000 from Huk's. So we'll call that -$120000, putting their total winnings at about $225,020, so like the 7th highest team? Liquid is at 8th with $221,620.
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On July 21 2012 07:31 Tom Cruise wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:09 sickoota wrote:
Damn man the bussiness side of EG must be sick they keep getting sponsors despite horrendous results and polarizing (at best) personalities. Sponsors couldn't care less about results, aslong as "EG" is everywhere.
the other thing is...EG isn't only into starcraft 2...
when talkign about gaming, EG marn and EG Justin Wong are some of the msot popular names out there.
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On July 25 2012 06:13 lrofd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:31 Tom Cruise wrote:On July 21 2012 07:09 sickoota wrote:
Damn man the bussiness side of EG must be sick they keep getting sponsors despite horrendous results and polarizing (at best) personalities. Sponsors couldn't care less about results, aslong as "EG" is everywhere. the other thing is...EG isn't only into starcraft 2... when talkign about gaming, EG marn and EG Justin Wong are some of the msot popular names out there.
Marn hasn't been EG for a long while.
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Marn is not on EG anymore. The fighting game roster is now Justin, Ricky, FloE, Momochi and Chocoblanka
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On July 25 2012 06:26 GenoZStriker wrote:
Marn is not on EG anymore. The fighting game roster is now Justin, Ricky, FloE, Momochi and Chocoblanka
Not to mention the awesome DotA squad of Fear, Demon, Maelk, Bulba and Universe And of course DansGame
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I'm sensing some animosity from Nony towards EG, just me? or is there a reason for this? To me this sounds like good news. EG's got some more help that they will then use to give back to players / team / tournaments they host. The scene gains that much more legitimacy and everyone wins. Is this a bad thing? I don't understand.
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On July 25 2012 06:48 Leth0 wrote:
I'm sensing some animosity from Nony towards EG, just me? or is there a reason for this? To me this sounds like good news. EG's got some more help that they will then use to give back to players / team / tournaments they host. The scene gains that much more legitimacy and everyone wins. Is this a bad thing? I don't understand.
Tyler has never liked EG, it's been pretty clear, even in EGMC first SC2 season, Tyler threw a fit and blamed EG that Liquid wasn't participating, even though it was clearly Liquid's choice (they didn't want to play by EG's rules, which all other teams agreed to, regarding server lag). Other incidents too, including when he said he would never join EG.... can't think of others off the top of my head at the moment.
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On July 21 2012 07:48 Liquid`NonY wrote:Is there some evidence for this? I have no idea where to look for figures relevant to this claim.
It was apparently edited as I don't see it on the OP .
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