| Forum Index > SC2 General |
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
Jake @Xx26Vanek26xX @MVPTAiLS @NalZa87 @Genius958 did Genius leave MVP? 정민수 @Genius958 @Xx26Vanek26xX @MVPTAiLS @NalZa87 yes According to this twitter message, it seems so. He also changed his username to https://twitter.com/#!/Genius958 This also may have been spoiled in today's EG vs. MVP match - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15061182 I wonder where he'll go. 
 | ||
|
FunkQue
United States165 Posts
| ||
|
Nabes
Canada1800 Posts
| ||
|
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
but but but... ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OySuv.gif) ;; | ||
|
MeLo
Australia192 Posts
| ||
|
FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
| ||
|
Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
Not a horrible blow to MVP imo. Never been on the Genius wagon and I don't think they need him for GSTL, DRG and DRGjr. can handle everything for them. | ||
|
Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Yeah, right. | ||
|
Haffi
Korea (North)49 Posts
User was banned for this post. | ||
|
Alva`
Brazil27 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:18 Nabes wrote: I would guess he left for a foreign team or a sc1 team, I see no reason in leaving MVP. iirc there was deal made that KESPA teams will not be able to contract GOM players for atleast a year | ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
| ||
|
HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
 | ||
|
SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
| ||
|
SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
Sad to see him leave though | ||
|
EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + That would be a pretty punny although unlikely outcome | ||
|
KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:21 Alva` wrote: iirc there was deal made that KESPA teams will not be able to contract GOM players for atleast a year Yeah, so far they just steal their coaches  Really bad for MVP. Hope he goes to Prime though  | ||
|
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
A blow to MVP's GSTL roster, but not a huge one. | ||
|
ibo422
Belgium2844 Posts
| ||
|
PhoenixDark
United States286 Posts
| ||
|
Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
| ||
|
Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:27 PhoenixDark wrote: Seems like most Koreans who join foreigner teams get worse outside of HerO. I hope he didn't jump to a foreign team just to get a salary : / Empire|viOlet? | ||
|
Gheed
United States972 Posts
| ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:27 PhoenixDark wrote: Seems like most Koreans who join foreigner teams get worse outside of HerO. I hope he didn't jump to a foreign team just to get a salary : / Getting a salary is pretty huge though. | ||
|
GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
| ||
|
Dakkas
2550 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:27 PhoenixDark wrote: Seems like most Koreans who join foreigner teams get worse outside of HerO. I hope he didn't jump to a foreign team just to get a salary : / Violet is better and Ganzi arguably so as well after leaving for more fertile grounds | ||
|
Lemonayd
United States745 Posts
noooooo I loved the DRG / Genius tag team. | ||
|
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:28 Nekovivie wrote: If he joins EG then we just need MvP to join MVP and the sillyness is complete. It's Mvp not MvP! capitalization is important! | ||
|
Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:29 Dakkas wrote: Violet is better and Ganzi arguably so as well after leaving for more fertile grounds Not sure about Ganzi, but his TvP has definitely improved after leaving SlayerS | ||
|
Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
| ||
|
Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:31 Vaelone wrote: I never thought I would say this for any player but I really hope he joins EG. It would be too fitting. | ||
|
JJH777
United States4400 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:29 Dakkas wrote: Violet is better and Ganzi arguably so as well after leaving for more fertile grounds Ganzi got a Code S ro4 while on Slayers... As for the main topic this is really saddening I liked the DRG/Genius rivalry/friendship and I really don't understand why he'd leave. Pretty disappointing. | ||
|
Synwave
United States2803 Posts
Am super curious where he ends up. | ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:30 Soyuz wrote: Not sure about Ganzi, but his TvP has definitely improved after leaving SlayerS leaving slayers is +50 TvP | ||
|
forsooth
United States3648 Posts
I hope it happens just because the name would be funny. | ||
|
TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:27 PhoenixDark wrote: Seems like most Koreans who join foreigner teams get worse outside of HerO. I hope he didn't jump to a foreign team just to get a salary : / Violet? Taeja? Seems like they are doing alright, no? | ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
SK.MC, EG.Puma | ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:33 TechNoTrance wrote: Violet? Taeja? Seems like they are doing alright, no? not so sure about TaeJa just yet dno if they are quite as good hrmmm | ||
|
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
taeja's practice conditions haven't changed at all so unless TL is cursed or his old buddies refuse to practice with him his training is the same as on slayers. | ||
|
Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:36 opterown wrote: not so sure about TaeJa just yet dno if they are quite as good hrmmm They didn't get significantly worse though, if at all worse. Can't really say they improved a lot either, though. | ||
|
blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:27 PhoenixDark wrote: Seems like most Koreans who join foreigner teams get worse outside of HerO. I hope he didn't jump to a foreign team just to get a salary : / I dunno bout that Puma hasn't gotten worse, he still does extremely well in like every foreigner event. Alive has done pretty well as well (Winning ipl4 pretty good ) I am sure there are others I just forget what koreans are on foreign teams due to there being so many . | ||
|
Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
| ||
|
Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
slayers wins gstl | ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
MVP isn't the same without him. | ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:41 Gamegene wrote: if he joined eg... slayers wins gstl pretty sure rosters are locked now | ||
|
Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
| ||
|
HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
| ||
|
ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
| ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:36 opterown wrote: not so sure about TaeJa just yet dno if they are quite as good hrmmm MC has won Red Bull and IEM WC for SK this year. Puma has won like $100,000 while on EG. I'm pretty confident both of them are as good if not better than they were when they first joined their foreign teams. | ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:48 ReachTheSky wrote: Maybe genius is heading over to one of the kespa teams he can't. the Kespa teams aren't allowed to sign current sc2 pro's for a year. | ||
|
Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:39 Nekovivie wrote: Has he done his military thing? He might be that: during the GSL season final when he lost, DRG gave him a military suit. | ||
|
Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:49 Lazzi wrote: He might be that: during the GSL season final when he lost, DRG gave him a military suit. Aha, seems likely it could be that then. Would be a shame though to lose him from the community | ||
|
KenZo-
Faroe Islands190 Posts
| ||
|
dragoon
United States695 Posts
| ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
T_T | ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:46 Canucklehead wrote: He's following eg and complexity on twitter as his two latest follows. Now, I don't know how old those follows are though. within a month or so i think, because losira's twitter was only set up last month iirc? | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
| ||
|
dextrin303
Sweden320 Posts
MVP won't be the same D: | ||
|
Xx26Vanek26xX
United States185 Posts
| ||
|
stickyhands
187 Posts
| ||
|
Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
| ||
|
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 13 2012 17:02 stickyhands wrote: I don't know how much the top tier pro are paid in koreans teams, but damn, beside that why would someone leave a team like MvP I don't think anyone on team MVP has a salary, if someone more knowledgeable is around feel free to correct me. | ||
|
OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
| ||
|
GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
I dunno but that might have influenced this decision. Does he want to continue serious progaming? | ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:57 opterown wrote: within a month or so i think, because losira's twitter was only set up last month iirc? to add to this, he followed Puma and MMA right before following EG... | ||
|
Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
DRGenius | ||
|
aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
| ||
|
Irave
United States9965 Posts
| ||
|
SurvivorMMA
United States14 Posts
| ||
|
polyphonyEX
United States2539 Posts
| ||
|
Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
| ||
|
DropTester
Australia608 Posts
thats pretty sad, although it just felt like genius hasn't been the same after his big run through the gsl. Maybe something really got to him? Wonder what team he'll goto | ||
|
TwilightRain
Germany351 Posts
Considering that, I wouldn't be surprised if he will quit SC2 completely or join one of the more casual teams e.g. Absolute Legends, like HogUn did. | ||
|
Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:54 Xarow wrote: EGG incoming. lmao, good stuff. Definitely curious to see where he lands. | ||
|
LeLfe
France3160 Posts
| ||
|
Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: D; but but but... ;; Rofl at the guy on the right staring at the wall. | ||
|
Conai
Hong Kong39 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:28 Nekovivie wrote: If he joins EG then we just need MvP to join MVP and the sillyness is complete. a great followup to nestea winning nestea award | ||
|
Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
| ||
|
bittman
Australia8759 Posts
He's been down in interviews lately, I hope there's no more going on. | ||
|
Irave
United States9965 Posts
On June 13 2012 17:19 Animzor wrote: Rofl at the guy on the right staring at the wall. As amusing as it is to look at. There is a tv that's not shown in the gif. | ||
|
Dakkas
2550 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:32 JJH777 wrote: Ganzi got a Code S ro4 while on Slayers... As for the main topic this is really saddening I liked the DRG/Genius rivalry/friendship and I really don't understand why he'd leave. Pretty disappointing. Your point? He can beat protoss now | ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 13 2012 17:35 bittman wrote: Noooo Genius~ He's been down in interviews lately, I hope there's no more going on. yeah his last one was really whiny lol | ||
|
Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
| ||
|
ffrozenfish
820 Posts
i think EG is more interested in Stephano than Genius | ||
|
plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
| ||
|
Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
| ||
|
I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
| ||
|
Mallidon
Scotland557 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:28 Nekovivie wrote: If he joins EG then we just need MvP to join MVP and the sillyness is complete. Actually for the silliness to be totally complete, we would need Reign to reform and sign Rain xD I'd say its a bit too early for the EGenius claims as yet, and I wonder if Quantic are looking to pick up another Korean too? Edit: spelling | ||
|
Vetrocide
Norway600 Posts
| ||
|
Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
| ||
|
RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
Also it has to be a foreign team. I don't see him going back to a Kespa team. His discipline doesn't get with them. | ||
|
LeLfe
France3160 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:12 Vetrocide wrote: coLGenius most likely would be my pick as well | ||
|
GoSuMali
France285 Posts
| ||
|
pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:18 RaiKageRyu wrote: wow, MVP was like perfect team for Genius in terms of atmosphere. Also it has to be a foreign team. I don't see him going back to a Kespa team. His discipline doesn't get with them. Yeah. Genius also doesn't stay at the MVP house anymore. Probably be a foreign team into army. | ||
|
_Nova_
United States167 Posts
| ||
|
desarrisc
Canada226 Posts
| ||
|
WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
| ||
|
MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
| ||
|
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
| ||
|
Otolia
France5805 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:30 Dodgin wrote: It's Mvp not MvP! capitalization is important! Don't worry, I'm calling Officer DiMano from the capitalization police. | ||
|
Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
| ||
|
ramon
Germany4842 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:28 Nekovivie wrote: If he joins EG then we just need MvP to join MVP and the sillyness is complete. we also need Liquid'Rain | ||
|
ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
It's okay to have a few Koreans on foreign teams, but it is fucking ridicoulus that so many of them get poached. Makes the GSTL look kinda stupid, when so many top Koreans can't really play in it. | ||
|
polyphonyEX
United States2539 Posts
| ||
|
CygnusAres
Singapore893 Posts
| ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37015 Posts
Hope u mean by.Sun and not terribad Rain from Fnatic | ||
|
teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On June 13 2012 22:37 SeeKeR wrote: Hope u mean by.Sun and not terribad Rain from Fnatic feels like you didnt get the pun  | ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
and Flash.LighT | ||
|
Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
| ||
|
Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
| ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
gl genius | ||
|
bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
By.Sun also goes by the name Rain. | ||
|
Shiori
3815 Posts
| ||
|
LeLfe
France3160 Posts
On June 13 2012 22:42 Shiori wrote: It'll be kinda sad if he joins an underperforming foreign team i.e. basically anyone other than Fnatic/Liquid. Oz, Departure, NightEnd and ToD... too many Protoss in Fnatic | ||
|
ssg
United States1770 Posts
On June 13 2012 22:42 Shiori wrote: It'll be kinda sad if he joins an underperforming foreign team i.e. basically anyone other than Fnatic/Liquid. Liquid is pretty underperforming right now | ||
|
babybell
776 Posts
in all seriousness though, I feel it would be sad to see him rot in a mediocre team.. too much talent. | ||
|
Shiori
3815 Posts
Maybe right at this moment, sure, but they at least tend to have a player or two in Code S. That can't really be said for many other foreign teams. | ||
|
FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On June 13 2012 22:48 Shiori wrote: Maybe right at this moment, sure, but they at least tend to have a player or two in Code S. That can't really be said for many other foreign teams. Doubt Genius would go to Liquid. Hero has been faltering lately and maybe Taeja can back it up. | ||
|
TheRealNanMan
United States1471 Posts
| ||
|
stew_
Canada239 Posts
| ||
|
warcralft
Singapore609 Posts
| ||
|
Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:23 EtherealDeath wrote: Genius is an Evil Genius. + Show Spoiler + That would be a pretty punny although unlikely outcome Would his name just be EG? | ||
|
Swords
6038 Posts
| ||
|
courtpanda
866 Posts
On June 13 2012 23:04 Swords wrote: ROOT.Genius we can only dream | ||
GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
| ||
|
Bagration
United States18282 Posts
| ||
|
RUFinalBoss
United States266 Posts
or what it will prolly be is eg or col | ||
|
WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
| ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51478 Posts
| ||
|
Fueled
United States1610 Posts
| ||
|
Rayjin
Germany205 Posts
| ||
|
Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
| ||
|
LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
| ||
|
ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On June 13 2012 23:44 LimitSEA wrote: Seriously hoping he's just trolling. Would so sad if this was true. :/ Quite possible since there is no other indication on his twitter. And the original tweet question might be due to him missing from MVP roster listed in the IPA TAC3 thread (which was fixed later). | ||
|
BlackCloud
Canada154 Posts
| ||
|
raf3776
United States1904 Posts
well hopefully he goes to a good team | ||
|
aintz
Canada5624 Posts
| ||
|
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On June 13 2012 23:48 ragz_gt wrote: Quite possible since there is no other indication on his twitter. And the original tweet question might be due to him missing from MVP roster listed in the IPA TAC3 thread (which was fixed later). He also changed his Twitter name, it was MvPGenius before. | ||
|
AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:27 PhoenixDark wrote: Seems like most Koreans who join foreigner teams get worse outside of HerO. I hope he didn't jump to a foreign team just to get a salary : / Not really. Violet got pretty good. Another one who I can't recall his name is rocking it compared to before. That's an unfair assumption to make on your part. Also, many Koreans join foreign teams for the fan interaction and tournaments, not the money. | ||
|
Makenshi
Sweden2105 Posts
| ||
|
Kamwah
United Kingdom724 Posts
| ||
|
glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On June 13 2012 23:04 Swords wrote: ROOT.Genius ROFL | ||
|
nooboon
2602 Posts
| ||
|
Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On June 13 2012 22:48 Shiori wrote: Maybe right at this moment, sure, but they at least tend to have a player or two in Code S. That can't really be said for many other foreign teams. Its easy when you just acquire a code S player and should not be compared to other foreigner teams... | ||
|
laguu
Finland278 Posts
| ||
|
Chromatic
Singapore88 Posts
| ||
|
AsymptoticClimax
United Kingdom249 Posts
| ||
|
iYiYi
United States489 Posts
| ||
|
Frankon
3054 Posts
| ||
|
nebula.
Sweden1431 Posts
| ||
|
hakke
9 Posts
On June 13 2012 17:19 Animzor wrote: Rofl at the guy on the right staring at the wall. You made my day! *lol* | ||
|
TommyP
United States6231 Posts
| ||
|
Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On June 14 2012 00:12 iYiYi wrote: Obviously going to MYM similar to when oGs partnered with SK they end up trading players over. then he'd be MYM.MVP still. more likely going to coL since they are spending tons of money and partnered with MVP before as well. | ||
|
zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:28 Nekovivie wrote: If he joins EG then we just need MvP to join MVP and the sillyness is complete. If MVP joins MVP nothing in this world is going to make sense anymore. But alas there is now a spot open | ||
|
Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
| ||
|
ChriseC
Germany440 Posts
| ||
|
snively
United States1159 Posts
i hope he finds a great team | ||
|
TwilightRain
Germany351 Posts
On June 14 2012 00:12 Frankon wrote: ACE.Genius This has to be it. This. Could actually be true in a short time. | ||
|
Ruin
United States271 Posts
it seems like more and more koreans are going to foreign teams | ||
|
FlukyS
Ireland485 Posts
| ||
|
Tendoi
Romania62 Posts
| ||
|
Hilo
Estonia114 Posts
| ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
| ||
|
Maxtor
United Kingdom273 Posts
, i hope hes picked up quickly/already has a team, I've always found his games and his style of play to be extremely entertaining. | ||
|
GreyArrow
United States157 Posts
| ||
|
vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
| ||
|
zazone
Romania460 Posts
On June 14 2012 00:49 vrok wrote: Air Force Ace. Proleague bonjwa incoming. you know it's impossible. my guess fnatic | ||
|
Bedrock
United States395 Posts
| ||
|
AcesAnoka
Belgium262 Posts
| ||
|
Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:27 PhoenixDark wrote: Seems like most Koreans who join foreigner teams get worse outside of HerO. I hope he didn't jump to a foreign team just to get a salary : / Taeja, Violet, Ganzi (arguably), and aLive seem to be doing pretty well for themselves | ||
|
1st_Panzer_Div.
United States621 Posts
GL Genius! | ||
|
ShakkaFL
Norway647 Posts
On June 14 2012 00:56 AcesAnoka wrote: Please don't let him get recruited by EG... They have a bad habit of making every player they recruit worse indeed, hope he goes to Slayers or something | ||
|
marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
| ||
|
Dismay
United States1180 Posts
| ||
|
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37015 Posts
poor Genius. MVP was so awesome | ||
|
renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
| ||
|
torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
| ||
|
Reapafied
65 Posts
| ||
|
Fluffeh
Sweden66 Posts
| ||
|
Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
| ||
|
Digitalis
United States1043 Posts
| ||
|
SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
I honestly don't see him going to another team. I though MVP was perfect for him. | ||
|
Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
And I'm surprised no one's re-posted the Bulgogi pics yet, for good old times sake | ||
|
aruken
France348 Posts
| ||
|
Shunjal
United States482 Posts
| ||
|
Runlet
5 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:21 Alva` wrote: iirc there was deal made that KESPA teams will not be able to contract GOM players for atleast a year That's a wise decision. | ||
|
SolarJto
United States260 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44162 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:20 Haffi wrote: Dirty cash Ninth post before we get this trashy comment. Progress? Not sure. If he left for more money, that's only a smart decision on his part. It's his profession; his living. Surely he thought long and hard and made the better decision. Let's wait for the official announcement. | ||
|
Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
| ||
|
Mackus
England1681 Posts
| ||
|
Precise
64 Posts
| ||
|
Lozos
United States36 Posts
| ||
|
PwFClockWise
Sweden49 Posts
| ||
|
danduz
United States77 Posts
On June 14 2012 01:27 Mackus wrote: Really hope it's not money motivated to a foreign team, you see this all to often in Soccer there's more dignity in staying around unless its a lost cause It's called paying the bills... These guys don't make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year on salary, there is no way at all you coud compare esports to professional soccer in terms of a financial stand point. If Genius is looking for a salary offer, then that should 100% be respected by the community. He is doing what he has to do in order to secure his own financial future and not worrying about whether or not he is going to ruin the chemistry for their GSTL roster. | ||
|
Sein
United States1811 Posts
Mvp and Nestea will of course stay with IM because they are getting nice salary thanks to LG. | ||
|
Fueled
United States1610 Posts
| ||
|
MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
| ||
|
DayWalk3r
Canada192 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:28 Nekovivie wrote: If he joins EG then we just need MvP to join MVP and the sillyness is complete. bump >.> | ||
|
GuitarBizarre
United Kingdom332 Posts
On June 14 2012 01:27 Mackus wrote: Really hope it's not money motivated to a foreign team, you see this all to often in Soccer there's more dignity in staying around unless its a lost cause Dignity doesn't stock a fridge or pay the bills man. And honestly, if Genius was "lazy" when he was floating around in Code S season after season, I can only figure he has no special attachment to MvP as an employer. | ||
|
hooahah
3752 Posts
| ||
|
Leberwurstbrot
Germany144 Posts
| ||
|
rd
United States2586 Posts
On June 14 2012 01:29 Lozos wrote: Liquid needs another toss... Beat me to it. At least in the GSTL they need another protoss on their roster. | ||
|
MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
On June 14 2012 01:13 Gosi wrote: Isn't Genius work/practice ethic pretty shit? IIRC I've heard him and others say that he isn't practicing that much and is playing other games and screwing around. And now when KesPA teams are in the game I can only imagine how every team in Korea is stepping up their practice schedule alot for better results so they can pick up some sponsors and stay alive in the scene when the teams from KesPA starts poking on "GSL" players. Maybe he didn't like this and is now searching for a team like coL where you don't need to think about practice and still get sent out on like every tournament? That's right, he only plays 10 games a day. So a foreigner team would work. | ||
|
Galaxy1again
United States34 Posts
| ||
|
Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
| ||
|
Balgrog
United States1221 Posts
That is very sad, and I can't imagine him leaving MVP for another Korean team, so I am very curious as to what foreign team will pick him up. I think he will be a great guy on a foreign team because he is one of the Koreans that has a lot of personality. | ||
Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
This is so shocking in my eyes. I hope him the best ~ | ||
|
nucLeaRTV
Romania822 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: D; but but but... ;; Everything is so perfect in this gif. T____T | ||
|
pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:21 Alva` wrote: iirc there was deal made that KESPA teams will not be able to contract GOM players for atleast a year And after that year is over, the players on the bw teams will be good enough in sc2 that they won't need new players. | ||
|
Lozos
United States36 Posts
On June 14 2012 01:39 hooahah wrote: he was on Off The Record recently, right? was there any sign, any hint, any plans for the future mentioned there? Don't think so, but it was a terrible episode that I barely payed attention to. | ||
|
Fermats_last
England336 Posts
| ||
|
ibo422
Belgium2844 Posts
| ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On June 14 2012 01:58 nucLeaRTV wrote: Everything is so perfect in this gif. T____T Who will slap DRG now? T_T | ||
|
Nirel
Israel1526 Posts
| ||
|
Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:28 Nekovivie wrote: If he joins EG then we just need MvP to join MVP and the sillyness is complete. EGenius and MVPMvP... my mind asplode. I always thought IM had the best sillyness possibilities, though. IMHappy, for example | ||
|
NoMicroWin
United States688 Posts
| ||
|
Freeze967
United States230 Posts
| ||
|
paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
| ||
|
ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On June 14 2012 02:33 Antylamon wrote: EGenius and MVPMvP... my mind asplode. I always thought IM had the best sillyness possibilities, though. IMHappy, for example Even better MYMMVPMvp. | ||
|
lrofd
United States187 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:27 PhoenixDark wrote: Seems like most Koreans who join foreigner teams get worse outside of HerO. I hope he didn't jump to a foreign team just to get a salary : / and violet? and moon? and why not? doesn't money help you live a slightly better life? or maybe even support your family? | ||
|
lorkac
United States2297 Posts
| ||
|
Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
| ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/neoghaleon55/BFF.jpg) RIP Bulgogi couple. | ||
|
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
Otherwise he'll go to a foreign team. Liquid EG Empire and Fnatic all picked up toss though. Or maybe FXO will try to get him to replace Oz | ||
|
farnham
1378 Posts
| ||
|
Strykerz
United States85 Posts
| ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
| ||
|
testthewest
Germany274 Posts
If he leaves he must prove alot again. But since he is lazy, it's gonna be hard. | ||
|
Peddel
Netherlands229 Posts
On June 14 2012 03:01 Shellshock1122 wrote: Maybe he's switching to LoL. didnt he play a lot of it? (..) I doubt it, didn't MVP have a LoL team? So that wouldn't be a reason to leave. | ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
I'm disappointed...but money is money. | ||
|
Xx26Vanek26xX
United States185 Posts
On June 14 2012 03:08 Peddel wrote: I doubt it, didn't MVP have a LoL team? So that wouldn't be a reason to leave. MVP has 3 LoL teams and a separate team house for them... | ||
|
covetousrat
2109 Posts
| ||
|
hangene92
Canada258 Posts
| ||
|
Steelavocado
United States2123 Posts
| ||
|
docvoc
United States5491 Posts
| ||
|
dearyuna
United States322 Posts
On June 14 2012 03:28 Steelavocado wrote: I am guessing he is going to Quantic but we will see. I don't know how many more people Quantic can afford to pick up. They picked up a whole team, including Illusion and Hawk & on top of that they picked up thestc, not to mention they're already focusing on their existing original line-up. That would be spreading really thin imo. I like what GoSu.Mali said about IMGenius in terms of nameplay. That's so clever (: I always liked the old couple bickering that came out of DRG/Genius though T_T Oh, and regarding whether or not players get worse when they jump over to foreign teams... I don't think they necessarily get WORSE, but their conditions do change. Although some players offer practice partners and proactive training situations with good coaches, for the most part, players are required to be self-starters which can be difficult for korean players to adjust to if they come out of a intense team house practice environment. Korean players are also generally less likely to vocalize their need for help so efficient communication becomes an issue too. There are also players who have switched over to the foreign scene who mentioned that it's harder to train because of the lack of consistent practice partners. It seems as though Korean players are less willing to train with players who join foreign teams, but thats just a personal observation that seems to come up in conversation from time to time. | ||
|
EsMuyVien
United States408 Posts
| ||
|
weeA
India442 Posts
| ||
|
Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
| ||
|
mrjpark
United States276 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:27 PhoenixDark wrote: Seems like most Koreans who join foreigner teams get worse outside of HerO. I hope he didn't jump to a foreign team just to get a salary : / I feel like this is only a partial truth. Some Koreans get bottlenecked by the pressure to perform in Korea, so you end up with people like Rain, TheBest, etc., who never really show good games. They just cheese 100% of the time in order to take as many games as they can. Not that cheesing is bad, but it needs to be thrown in...not your plan a/b/c. Rain developed much better after he moved out to Fnatic, probably because he was playing against people closer to his skill level? That's my theory. People like Rain/Violet, etc. will continue to excel at foreign tournaments because of this. They probably won't get many results in the GSL as another a result. What matters, though, is that they found their niche and have a salary to provide for themselves. | ||
|
Neurosis
United States893 Posts
On June 14 2012 03:43 weeA wrote: Fnatic genius!!!! Yes indeed, they could use another strong toss in the lineup. | ||
|
FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
Pretty sure its either two since he recently started following them. | ||
|
Phobbers
773 Posts
On June 14 2012 02:48 lrofd wrote: and violet? and moon? and why not? doesn't money help you live a slightly better life? or maybe even support your family? There could be an argument made to put Puma on that list. | ||
|
-FoX
United States479 Posts
| ||
|
eyeEX
United States64 Posts
| ||
|
Dark supplydepo
Sweden103 Posts
| ||
|
Shiori
3815 Posts
On June 14 2012 03:52 FakeDeath wrote: Expect Genius to join either Complexity or EG. Pretty sure its either two since he recently started following them. god dammit. | ||
|
Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
| ||
|
FILM
United States663 Posts
| ||
|
Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
| ||
|
SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On June 14 2012 04:21 Doodsmack wrote: If it's EG I think we can definitely crown them the New York Yankees of SC2. To be the New York Yankees of SC2 you have to actually win something right? Don't get me wrong I like EG, but comon . . . all-killed in IPL by Monster - their results lately are not even mediocre. | ||
|
Zambrah
United States7288 Posts
Then they can stop buying players, and hopefully get their shit together. Seriously though, I see Genius crashing and burning and never being relevant again without a strict training regiment, he really needs some motivation to care. If he has that motivation, hes a scary player, but I don't think foreign teams will provide that motivation... HOPE TO GOD I'M WRONG. As long as hes on EG. <3 | ||
|
-stOpSKY-
Canada498 Posts
On June 14 2012 04:12 darkness wrote: Probably EG. If yes, it'd be stupid because EG is getting too many players which as a result weakens teams more or less. Explain please? I mean they have a roster of nine players. Most teams have less or some are hovering close to that, but I would love you to tell me how having ten players "weakens teams more or less." Edit: After checking quickly... ST and IM have 12/13 players respectively and are still considered strong teams. | ||
|
NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
On June 14 2012 04:21 Doodsmack wrote: If it's EG I think we can definitely crown them the New York Yankees of SC2. The worst Korean team Zenex can OWN EG easily. | ||
|
Yoshi Kirishima
United States10324 Posts
| ||
|
Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On June 14 2012 04:27 NoGasfOu wrote: The worst Korean team Zenex can OWN EG easily. lol User was warned for this post | ||
|
ReboundEU
508 Posts
glhfgg | ||
|
Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On June 14 2012 04:24 SCST wrote: To be the New York Yankees of SC2 you have to actually win something right? Don't get me wrong I like EG, but comon . . . all-killed in IPL by Monster - their results lately are not even mediocre. Having 3 players make it into pools from the open bracket at MLG is better than mediocre. The Yankees don't necessarily win everything so I was more referring to the fact that they have more money than other teams and use it to buy top talent. But maybe I should have said the Yankees of foreign SC2. | ||
|
renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
| ||
|
Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
lol? It's true. | ||
|
fer
Canada375 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:29 Dakkas wrote: Violet is better and Ganzi arguably so as well after leaving for more fertile grounds Ganzi is better? He has performed awfully ever since joining Complexity. | ||
|
sam05396
United States783 Posts
On June 14 2012 04:58 fer wrote: Ganzi is better? He has performed awfully ever since joining Complexity. he got top 4 at an mlg arena i think and qualified for code s since joining complexity | ||
|
Flowjo
United States928 Posts
lol Honestly you shouldn't be laughing. I would say around 50-50 Eg is quite bad. | ||
|
sam05396
United States783 Posts
On June 14 2012 05:08 Flowjo wrote: lol Honestly you shouldn't be laughing. I would say around 50-50 Eg is quite bad. liqiud got beat by zenex pretty hard so i guess your point is pretty much that no foreign team is good besides fnatic? | ||
|
iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
| ||
|
babybell
776 Posts
| ||
|
farvacola
United States18824 Posts
On June 14 2012 04:24 SCST wrote: To be the New York Yankees of SC2 you have to actually win something right? Don't get me wrong I like EG, but comon . . . all-killed in IPL by Monster - their results lately are not even mediocre. You ought to watch some starcraft if you are going to start appraising a teams results. EG had three players break into pools from the open bracket at the Spring Championship, and although overall their results are perhaps not Yankee level, but to insist that they are not even mediocre? Stop drinkin the haterade. | ||
|
iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
On June 14 2012 05:09 sam05396 wrote: liqiud got beat by zenex pretty hard so i guess your point is pretty much that no foreign team is good besides fnatic? Zenex is underrated imo, extreme is fucking sweet.. though definatly on of the bottom teams. | ||
|
Ldawg
United States328 Posts
I love his style as Protoss, and wish him the best! I fully expect to hear a major team signing him in the near future. | ||
|
GuitarBizarre
United Kingdom332 Posts
On June 14 2012 02:33 Antylamon wrote: EGenius and MVPMvP... my mind asplode. I always thought IM had the best sillyness possibilities, though. IMHappy, for example IMKeen IMHappy IMGenius IMinControl etc. Plenty of good ones. | ||
|
Dumboprime
985 Posts
why, genius??? | ||
|
stablol
United States82 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: D; but but but... ;; this is exactly what i thought of too, as soon as i heard | ||
|
GeorgeH
United Kingdom190 Posts
On June 14 2012 05:15 GuitarBizarre wrote: IMKeen IMHappy IMGenius IMinControl etc. Plenty of good ones. IMTheBest | ||
|
pt
United States813 Posts
IMTheBestfOu ^^ | ||
|
BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
On June 14 2012 05:11 farvacola wrote: You ought to watch some starcraft if you are going to start appraising a teams results. EG had three players break into pools from the open bracket at the Spring Championship, and although overall their results are perhaps not Yankee level, but to insist that they are not even mediocre? Stop drinkin the haterade. Yeah 2 Koreans and they're newest pickup who outshines the rest of the foreigners on the team by a large margin, and lives in Korea. Except for their Korean lineup+Thorzain and Huk on a good day they are below mediocre. On topic: Noo, DRG and Genius are separated This makes me a sad sad fan.. I wonder where he will go.. | ||
|
gasmeter
United Kingdom249 Posts
| ||
|
Phobbers
773 Posts
On June 14 2012 05:45 BreakfastBurrito wrote: Yeah 2 Koreans and they're newest pickup who outshines the rest of the foreigners on the team by a large margin, and lives in Korea. Except for their Korean lineup+Thorzain and Huk on a good day they are below mediocre. On topic: Noo, DRG and Genius are separated This makes me a sad sad fan.. I wonder where he will go..So, you only look at half the team to rate them? That seems oh so logical if you ask me. | ||
|
redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
| ||
|
Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On June 14 2012 05:45 BreakfastBurrito wrote: Yeah 2 Koreans and they're newest pickup who outshines the rest of the foreigners on the team by a large margin, and lives in Korea. Except for their Korean lineup+Thorzain and Huk on a good day they are below mediocre. On topic: Noo, DRG and Genius are separated This makes me a sad sad fan.. I wonder where he will go..So you cherry pick machine, incontrol, and lzgamer in order to refer to EG as below mediocre lol. Guess you just came in here to tell us those three are at the bottom of EG's "depth chart" so I guess this is where I say "no shit Sherlock." And when you lump IdrA in with those three you're taking your haterade drinkage to the point where it just makes you look unintelligent. | ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On June 14 2012 05:45 BreakfastBurrito wrote: Yeah 2 Koreans and they're newest pickup who outshines the rest of the foreigners on the team by a large margin, and lives in Korea. Except for their Korean lineup+Thorzain and Huk on a good day they are below mediocre. On topic: Noo, DRG and Genius are separated This makes me a sad sad fan.. I wonder where he will go..So take away the teams best players and they become mediocre? O RLY? take away DRG, Monster, Keen, and Sniper and MVP is pretty mediocre too. | ||
|
ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
On June 14 2012 05:45 BreakfastBurrito wrote: Yeah 2 Koreans and they're newest pickup who outshines the rest of the foreigners on the team by a large margin, and lives in Korea. Except for their Korean lineup+Thorzain and Huk on a good day they are below mediocre. On topic: Noo, DRG and Genius are separated This makes me a sad sad fan.. I wonder where he will go..Why do people always say this stuff? Yes, if you included the top 4-5 players from ANY foreign team, they will be below mediocre. | ||
|
Cokefreak
Finland8095 Posts
| ||
|
naux
Canada738 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:06 jmbthirteen wrote: So take away the teams best players and they become mediocre? O RLY? take away DRG, Monster, Keen, and Sniper and MVP is pretty mediocre too. Exactly i agree with you. I don't get some of other peoples posts, and there idiotic logic. Calling EG the NY Yankees of SC2? Lol complexity is buying more korean players left and right. | ||
|
pt
United States813 Posts
| ||
|
heaven-
United States361 Posts
| ||
|
Xalorian
Canada433 Posts
lol? Not even remotely. Thorzain, HuK, Puma, JYP... they can beat Zenex any day. Sure, it will not be easy, but they can absolutly do it. It will be a fair fight. Add Genius to the team, and now, it's not even funny how much they can beat Zenex. | ||
|
Apollo_Shards
1210 Posts
(I know this isnt 100% true, but MC, Oz, and now Genius). | ||
|
Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
| ||
|
PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
But really, Genius might not join a foreign team, he might be interested in them, but without motivation, Genius might just become weaker like the time period between Blizzcon 2010 and GSL Season One 2012. A Korean team I feel will give Genius that motivation that most foreign teams seem to miss. | ||
|
Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
Get them both doing commercials and making awesome appearances in Korea for their sponsors. Just get rid of the EG house and rent one in Korea lol. Go for winning IPTL's and GSTL's and any other pro team league. Edit: But honestly, I hope he joins TSL. Polt Genius Symbol, the new race leaders gogo. | ||
|
Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
First, they aquire Genius. With him out of Mvp, DRG is getting lonely and is going to miss Genius. And to be able to meet and practise with Genius again (which slayers locked in a room to not allow any interaction with anyone), DRG has to finally join Slayers. | ||
|
Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:25 Hardigan wrote: you guys just don't get it. Everything is actually a brilliant mind plot from Slayers. First, they aquire Genius. With him out of Mvp, DRG is getting lonely and is going to miss Genius. And to be able to meet and practise with Genius again (which slayers locked in a room to not allow any interaction with anyone), DRG has to finally join Slayers. I think Slayers is probably the most likely team to sign Genius, maybe after Complexity. That or EG has pockets deeper than we though because after signing Thorzain and probably Stephano in august, the amount of money they need to get Genius as well is incredible. | ||
|
farvacola
United States18824 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:25 Hardigan wrote: you guys just don't get it. Everything is actually a brilliant mind plot from Slayers. First, they aquire Genius. With him out of Mvp, DRG is getting lonely and is going to miss Genius. And to be able to meet and practise with Genius again (which slayers locked in a room to not allow any interaction with anyone), DRG has to finally join Slayers. For whatever reason, I don't see DRG being the sort of guy who falls victim to feeling lonely very often. Call it a baseless hunch if you will | ||
|
AcesAnoka
Belgium262 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:14 Xalorian wrote: lol? Not even remotely. Thorzain, HuK, Puma, JYP... they can beat Zenex any day. Sure, it will not be easy, but they can absolutly do it. It will be a fair fight. Add Genius to the team, and now, it's not even funny how much they can beat Zenex. Thorzain is already out of ro16.. Huk hasnt shown results, puma is decent and jyp is slumping hard ( check his Twitter) and let's be honest all the other EG players aren't that good. Zenex however is an underrated team that practices way more than EG and in Korea. Do note that zenex killed tl 5-1 also. Also genius ist even on EG so don't add him to support your argument | ||
|
Gerend
30 Posts
| ||
|
Shiori
3815 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:14 Xalorian wrote: lol? Not even remotely. Thorzain, HuK, Puma, JYP... they can beat Zenex any day. Sure, it will not be easy, but they can absolutly do it. It will be a fair fight. Add Genius to the team, and now, it's not even funny how much they can beat Zenex. Zenex Life alone would all-kill that team. | ||
|
Advantageous
China1350 Posts
| ||
|
Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On June 14 2012 07:01 Gerend wrote: Well this just ruined the first good day I've had this year =/ Damn, you must have had a tough year then... | ||
|
Dissonance23
United States259 Posts
"alone"? What's the alone for? Life is easily their best player, and I'd say both JYP and Puma have a chance of taking him out. | ||
|
Exclamark
United States29 Posts
| ||
|
Shiori
3815 Posts
On June 14 2012 07:11 Dissonance23 wrote: "alone"? What's the alone for? Life is easily their best player, and I'd say both JYP and Puma have a chance of taking him out. A chance? Yeah, sure. Any top player has a "chance" of beating any top player. If you had JYP play 10 games against MVP, I'm sure he'd take 1. But if you want to say EG could compete with Zenex, you need to show that that they actually stand a decent chance of winning, not just an outlier. | ||
|
Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
| ||
|
sam05396
United States783 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:20 PhoenixVoid wrote: Don't like how DRG and Genius are now separated like this But really, Genius might not join a foreign team, he might be interested in them, but without motivation, Genius might just become weaker like the time period between Blizzcon 2010 and GSL Season One 2012. A Korean team I feel will give Genius that motivation that most foreign teams seem to miss. he already said he only plays 10 games a day even on mvp i dont think there will be much of a difference | ||
|
Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
| ||
|
Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On June 14 2012 07:15 Shiori wrote: A chance? Yeah, sure. Any top player has a "chance" of beating any top player. If you had JYP play 10 games against MVP, I'm sure he'd take 1. But if you want to say EG could compete with Zenex, you need to show that that they actually stand a decent chance of winning, not just an outlier. Puma just rolled Violet and took a game off of DRG (also beat alive,ryung and inori). I'm pretty sure that qualifies him as "standing a decent chance of winning" against Life. We have no idea how EG would do against Zenex because we have almost no idea who most of Zenex players are, but EGs top dog have posted significantly more results than Life. | ||
|
LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
i think so... | ||
|
Chicane
United States7875 Posts
| ||
|
windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
| ||
|
Dissonance23
United States259 Posts
| ||
|
dLKnighT
Canada735 Posts
| ||
|
Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
| ||
|
TSBspartacus
England1046 Posts
| ||
|
polyphonyEX
United States2539 Posts
| ||
|
Mario1209
United States1077 Posts
| ||
|
WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
| ||
|
WetSocks
United States953 Posts
why did you leave DRG . Good luck on your new team! | ||
|
JJH777
United States4400 Posts
On June 14 2012 08:37 WArped wrote: My guess is Fnatic, they lack top Korean protoss and Genius isn't exactly the type of guy to want to travel around constantly to all the different tournaments. Oz? | ||
|
AiurOG
United States98 Posts
| ||
|
Indrium
United States2236 Posts
| ||
|
GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:14 Xalorian wrote: lol? Not even remotely. Thorzain, HuK, Puma, JYP... they can beat Zenex any day. Sure, it will not be easy, but they can absolutly do it. It will be a fair fight. Add Genius to the team, and now, it's not even funny how much they can beat Zenex. no- it would be easy. Vile was able to do it with a ragtag squad of swashbuckling north-americans, im pretty sure EG could win that as soon as Life lost. Hes the only threat on ZeNex | ||
|
GunPaladin
United States1205 Posts
| ||
|
Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
I could be wrong, but I'd expect him to join TSL or some other Korean team | ||
|
glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On June 14 2012 09:35 GhandiEAGLE wrote: no- it would be easy. Vile was able to do it with a ragtag squad of swashbuckling north-americans, im pretty sure EG could win that as soon as Life lost. Hes the only threat on ZeNex I could see Puma and JYP beating ZeNEX as along as they can take out Life, but hell, Line and TREME are relevant. ThorZain might be able to do it, but HuK? In his current state, no. | ||
|
mierin
United States4943 Posts
I loved the DRG-Genius bromance storyline...wonder where Genius will end up. Hopefully not the military | ||
|
Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On June 14 2012 05:45 BreakfastBurrito wrote: Yeah 2 Koreans and they're newest pickup who outshines the rest of the foreigners on the team by a large margin, and lives in Korea. Except for their Korean lineup+Thorzain and Huk on a good day they are below mediocre. On topic: Noo, DRG and Genius are separated This makes me a sad sad fan.. I wonder where he will go..Sorry somehow your reasoning just still dosn't compute because those 2 koreans an 1 living in Korea are still on the team -.- how many players actually make it out of pool play exactly? Not many? Didn't think so and had it not been for the hectic schedule and poorly run tournament IdrA would've actually made it through into WCG as well so no I don't see how anything you said proves validity that EG isn't even mediocre | ||
|
naux
Canada738 Posts
| ||
|
TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
| ||
|
gengka
Malaysia461 Posts
| ||
|
FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On June 14 2012 09:44 glzElectromaster wrote: I could see Puma and JYP beating ZeNEX as along as they can take out Life, but hell, Line and TREME are relevant. ThorZain might be able to do it, but HuK? In his current state, no. Puma does well in individual tournaments but historically EG is bad in clan wars. EG just got recently all-killed by their spons......i mean Monster with their best line-up. Anyways gl to Genius to finding a new team and gain back his motivation to play the game. | ||
|
qB3 ENS
United States14 Posts
On June 14 2012 00:36 FlukyS wrote: I don't know id say he like most Koreans wants to get into an international team if he does go to EG it would be cool because it would be like when Oz was on FXO so he was FXOz so Genius would be EGenius. Oz changed his name when he got to FXO so it was less of an accident. He originally wanted to be FXOpoo but his team advised him against it. I can't recall his name before | ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 14 2012 11:37 qB3 ENS wrote: Oz changed his name when he got to FXO so it was less of an accident. He originally wanted to be FXOpoo but his team advised him against it. I can't recall his name before twilightfou | ||
|
glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On June 14 2012 11:37 qB3 ENS wrote: Oz changed his name when he got to FXO so it was less of an accident. He originally wanted to be FXOpoo but his team advised him against it. I can't recall his name before FXOpoo LOL. Just looking at it makes me laugh soooo hard | ||
|
Amlitzer
United States471 Posts
| ||
|
sam05396
United States783 Posts
| ||
|
qB3 ENS
United States14 Posts
On June 14 2012 00:36 FlukyS wrote: I don't know id say he like most Koreans wants to get into an international team if he does go to EG it would be cool because it would be like when Oz was on FXO so he was FXOz so Genius would be EGenius. Oz changed his name when he got to FXO so it was less of an accident. He originally wanted to be FXOpoo but his team advised him against it. I can't recall his name before | ||
|
chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On June 14 2012 12:26 qB3 ENS wrote: Oz changed his name when he got to FXO so it was less of an accident. He originally wanted to be FXOpoo but his team advised him against it. I can't recall his name before Twilightfou I think Genius will go to TSL or back to ZeNex | ||
|
CCsyph
United Kingdom97 Posts
| ||
|
Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
| ||
|
Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
| ||
|
Irave
United States9965 Posts
| ||
|
Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
| ||
|
Douillos
France3195 Posts
On June 14 2012 11:24 TAMinator wrote: Pretty sure a year ago he said he was thinking of going to the military if he didnt post any results He got second in GSL ^^ | ||
|
juicy
Australia145 Posts
| ||
|
Sturladur
Denmark8 Posts
| ||
|
lost_artz
United States366 Posts
| ||
|
MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
^_^ | ||
|
GoingGoingGone
Slovakia529 Posts
If he's going foreign, I'd guess Complexity. | ||
|
Havik_
United States5585 Posts
On June 14 2012 13:20 Roman666 wrote: Remember GSL 2012 S1 final, when DRG handed him military clothes? I guess he is going to the army. I'm inclined to say that its this. I can't see why a player as good as him would just randomly leave a good team like Mvp. The odds of him going to a foreign team are quite low I think. | ||
|
Sphinx747
20 Posts
| ||
|
ObliviousNA
United States535 Posts
Liquid: not likely, just acquired Taeja. Especially with OGS disbanding, it seems like finances may be stretched. EG: Just got thorzain, they're not due for a roster addition for awhile yet. The name would be cool though... Fnatic: They seem comfortable where they are, they've got a decent protoss in Tod, but nobody GSL caliber. Especially with Alive on their team and with a korean house, it seems somewhat likely. Mouz: No koreans yet, but they just lost thorzain. This seems like the best way to start IMO, my #1 pick. Empire: Welmu is too new to the scene to be flagship toss. With violet + beasty/kas, they can be a sick team with Genius, dominate the entire Euro scene. Vines is good, but it seems Empire picked him up a bit prematurely, might have to wait for results there. I don't think Acer, ROG, atn, or any of the smaller euro teams really have a shot at Genius. Possibly SK, but two S class protoss players seems like overkill. I'm still waiting for SKSupernova. | ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On June 14 2012 16:34 ObliviousNA wrote: Mouz: No koreans yet, but they just lost thorzain. This seems like the best way to start IMO, my #1 pick. . ...I think you're on to something... >_>;; | ||
|
bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
That's not good enough for some people. Especially when you get that close and expect to win. | ||
|
Jebediah
Germany106 Posts
On June 14 2012 16:34 ObliviousNA wrote: Fnatic: They seem comfortable where they are, they've got a decent protoss in Tod, but nobody GSL caliber. Especially with Alive on their team and with a korean house, it seems somewhat likely. They acquired Oz a little more than a month ago. | ||
|
ObliviousNA
United States535 Posts
On June 14 2012 16:46 Jebediah wrote: They acquired Oz a little more than a month ago. Ah, I forgot Oz. Fnatic seems unlikely then, my mistake ^^. I forgot to mention coL too, but frankly they've bought so much korean talent (no offense to them) that they should just sit and nurture what they have. Recently they got Nada, Ganzi, Heart, and Killer... I can't imagine they're in the black atm. My only reservations is that the coL-MVP partnership could have created some friendly bonds with the coL management. Still, unlikely. | ||
|
Gardel
Mexico220 Posts
| ||
|
KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
On June 14 2012 16:34 ObliviousNA wrote: Ok, so barring military service, this is my reasoning for new teams: Liquid: not likely, just acquired Taeja. Especially with OGS disbanding, it seems like finances may be stretched. EG: Just got thorzain, they're not due for a roster addition for awhile yet. The name would be cool though... Fnatic: They seem comfortable where they are, they've got a decent protoss in Tod, but nobody GSL caliber. Especially with Alive on their team and with a korean house, it seems somewhat likely. Mouz: No koreans yet, but they just lost thorzain. This seems like the best way to start IMO, my #1 pick. Empire: Welmu is too new to the scene to be flagship toss. With violet + beasty/kas, they can be a sick team with Genius, dominate the entire Euro scene. Vines is good, but it seems Empire picked him up a bit prematurely, might have to wait for results there. I don't think Acer, ROG, atn, or any of the smaller euro teams really have a shot at Genius. Possibly SK, but two S class protoss players seems like overkill. I'm still waiting for SKSupernova. Welmu is on Eclypsia? :s | ||
|
Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On June 14 2012 16:44 bokchoi wrote: That's not good enough for some people. Especially when you get that close and expect to win. When you're talking about an immediate career, that's more than enough reason to not retire early and go to the military. You just had a decent accomplishment and earned yourself roughly $18,000. Considering, you don't have to worry about living expenses because you're a top notch player and any team will be more than happy to accommodate at least that, at the very minimum, $18,000 is a pretty comfortable bit of money. You can pretty much do anything you'd want to in a normal life for about a year with an extra $18,000. Of course, it will be spent sooner and he will need to make more prize money, because that's how humans live, but winning $18,000 should be good enough for now. | ||
|
Agathon
France1505 Posts
On June 14 2012 16:34 ObliviousNA wrote: Ok, so barring military service, this is my reasoning for new teams: Liquid: not likely, just acquired Taeja. Especially with OGS disbanding, it seems like finances may be stretched. EG: Just got thorzain, they're not due for a roster addition for awhile yet. The name would be cool though... Fnatic: They seem comfortable where they are, they've got a decent protoss in Tod, but nobody GSL caliber. Especially with Alive on their team and with a korean house, it seems somewhat likely. Mouz: No koreans yet, but they just lost thorzain. This seems like the best way to start IMO, my #1 pick. Empire: Welmu is too new to the scene to be flagship toss. With violet + beasty/kas, they can be a sick team with Genius, dominate the entire Euro scene. Vines is good, but it seems Empire picked him up a bit prematurely, might have to wait for results there. I don't think Acer, ROG, atn, or any of the smaller euro teams really have a shot at Genius. Possibly SK, but two S class protoss players seems like overkill. I'm still waiting for SKSupernova. You forgot Millenium and coL. | ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
| ||
|
ObliviousNA
United States535 Posts
I mentioned coL a few posts later. I did forget Millenium, but they never struck me as a serious contender for any of the big players. I know they picked up dragon, but that was more of a PR stunt IMO. They've never made a bid (afaik) for any big players, both feast and stephano became top-tier after they were on the team for awhile. To the guy that mentioned Welmu, I thought he was one of the guys that left Eclypsia with Desrow/Scarlett/Artist. I mixed up team order (he was Empire first, then Eclypsia), nice catch. | ||
|
Vekalisk
Australia137 Posts
@Genius958 Are you looking for a new team maybe? A no-brainer, everyone would want him, a bit slow from mouz to say the least haha. | ||
|
Iksf
United Kingdom444 Posts
On June 14 2012 17:48 jmbthirteen wrote: If he were going into the military, why leave MVP now? He isn't leaving GSL this season and still could help MVP in the GSTL. So he obviously isn't going into the military right now. Doesn't make sense to leave MVP while still competing in GSL if he were going into the military. Maybe his contract ran out and he decided to not renew it. Or maybe he just wants to avoid the commitment to lots of practice and pick up what scraps he can from GSL while cutting out practice. | ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On June 14 2012 18:52 Iksf wrote: Maybe his contract ran out and he decided to not renew it. Or maybe he just wants to avoid the commitment to lots of practice and pick up what scraps he can from GSL while cutting out practice. your assuming he is on a contract. and genius hasn't been one to commit to practice as he has said he practices 10 games a day. And he doesn't live in the MVP house. | ||
|
Aeceus
United Kingdom1278 Posts
| ||
|
GhostLink
United States450 Posts
ok I'll go on "and in the top left, his opponent, MvPMvp!" | ||
|
Fueled
United States1610 Posts
| ||
|
nktiep
Vietnam40 Posts
| ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
| ||
|
takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
On June 14 2012 20:36 Fueled wrote: Very nice showing today in the GSL Code S. Hopefully a little more icing on the cake to some of the teams interested in signing him. I doubt he needed it. I couldn't imagine him leaving mvp without already being on a team. He just wont say which one until he is out of the GSL for common courtesies sake. | ||
|
Sanjuro
Indonesia252 Posts
And he isnt wearing any team jersey just now, if it was a foreign team, he would have worn a team jersey today and not that GSL gom tv shirt... Damn, as a Genius fan this is really excruciating. | ||
|
Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
Hero, Violet and also MC are all doing really good outside of a korean team as well. | ||
|
Fueled
United States1610 Posts
On June 14 2012 20:27 GhostLink wrote: If Genius joins EG, he'll be an Evil Genius. "And in the top left corner, we have Evil Genius' Genius!" ok I'll go on "and in the top left, his opponent, MvPMvp!" Maybe. Though it would be sick, I can't see EG passing up trying to go after Stephano in August. So signing 2 BIG players back to back? Ahhh. Unless EGs pockets are really that BIG. | ||
|
winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
consider that MVP.mym sent 3 newbies not genius to mlg | ||
|
Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Why did you leave MVP? I feel that Coach Choi’s style didn’t mesh well with me. I left the team after long consideration. The coach’s and my personalities clashed a little bit too much. It’s not that I had a particular problem within the team that made me leave.[ When did you decide to leave the team? I’ve actually been thinking about leaving for a long time. However, every time I tried to, the coach persuaded me out of it but this time, that wasn’t possible and the decision was made. What plans do you have for the future? For now, I will focus on GSL and then work on finding a team to join. I think I’ll try to find a foreign team. | ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 14 2012 18:52 Vekalisk wrote: Mouz just posted on their twitter in response to Genius confirming that he left MVP: @Genius958 Are you looking for a new team maybe? A no-brainer, everyone would want him, a bit slow from mouz to say the least haha. ohoho genius doesn't speak much english apparently. might be difficult hrmmm | ||
|
LeLfe
France3160 Posts
| ||
|
Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On June 14 2012 23:04 LeLfe wrote: so we have ForGG, SuperNova and Genius (+ few other former oGs members) looking for teams, hope you guyz ready for announcement of announcement soon I can see it already in front of me... "ForGG, SuperNova, Genius, Top and InCa form League of Legends Team oGs2" Oh, wait, that was my daynightmare.... | ||
|
Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On June 14 2012 23:12 Morfildur wrote: I can see it already in front of me... "ForGG, SuperNova, Genius, Top and InCa form League of Legends Team oGs2" Oh, wait, that was my daynightmare.... Is there a dark templar hero in LoL? | ||
|
LeLfe
France3160 Posts
On June 14 2012 23:12 Morfildur wrote: I can see it already in front of me... "ForGG, SuperNova, Genius, Top and InCa form League of Legends Team oGs2" Oh, wait, that was my daynightmare.... I don't like InCa but he's not bad enough to switch to LoL | ||
|
takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
On June 14 2012 23:04 opterown wrote: ohoho genius doesn't speak much english apparently. might be difficult hrmmm I think bankroll wise mouz is out of the question. There are many more foreign teams that have more cash and willing to spend it on genius I bet. | ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
never played LOL, but if there's a rikimaru equivalent... hahaha | ||
storywriter
Australia528 Posts
On June 14 2012 23:36 opterown wrote: never played LOL, but if there's a rikimaru equivalent... hahaha oh, yeah, there are plenty | ||
|
YourBestFriend
Canada92 Posts
| ||
|
Doomblaze
United States1292 Posts
If they started a dota 2 team Inca could play exclusively Lanaya, since she is a DT. Good luck to genius, hope he finds what he wants. | ||
|
Sein
United States1811 Posts
Yep, couldn't be any more obvious. | ||
|
autoexec
United States530 Posts
| ||
|
Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On June 14 2012 23:19 LeLfe wrote: I don't like InCa but he's not bad enough to switch to LoL I do love the ignorance your comment has. You're inferring you have to be bad at sc2 inorder to play LoL well let's see last I checked Fruitdealer is now in the LoL scene kinda and he is a GSL winner and such. Comments such as these only make you look like an ignorant child/elitest thinking that one game takes so significantly less skill that it's not worth even mentioning in the same category as your game which in fact it is. In both size of audience and skill seeing as how both games take a significant amount of it. | ||
|
-orb-
United States5770 Posts
| ||
|
Demorase
136 Posts
I wonder if it had anything to do, probably not | ||
|
babybell
776 Posts
| ||
|
ClassicMilds
India39 Posts
| ||
|
babybell
776 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:36 Catatonic wrote: I do love the ignorance your comment has. You're inferring you have to be bad at sc2 inorder to play LoL well let's see last I checked Fruitdealer is now in the LoL scene kinda and he is a GSL winner and such. Comments such as these only make you look like an ignorant child/elitest thinking that one game takes so significantly less skill that it's not worth even mentioning in the same category as your game which in fact it is. In both size of audience and skill seeing as how both games take a significant amount of it. To be fair he did fail completely at SC2 for over a year before deciding to switch and coach LoL. | ||
|
Munk-E
United States672 Posts
Maybe evelynn, but she's the worst character. | ||
|
ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:00 sc2fan007 wrote: Teamliquid needs another protoss after Tyler has been slumping! It's funny how you say that just when he performed well in WCS. | ||
|
Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On June 15 2012 02:56 ReaperX wrote: It's funny how you say that just when he performed well in WCS. A couple of wins and a years slump is forgotten? Anyways, TL is about more then just results, so I am not that worried about Tyler. | ||
|
Saiwa
Germany789 Posts
Just like Britta. Loved the Games of Genius today, hope he gets in a good team. | ||
|
Shadow_Dog
Canada427 Posts
| ||
|
Dewd
Sweden9 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:27 PhoenixDark wrote: Seems like most Koreans who join foreigner teams get worse outside of HerO. I hope he didn't jump to a foreign team just to get a salary : / Puma did pretty well after joining EG :D | ||
|
Tsubbi
Germany7979 Posts
| ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
Violet, too! | ||
|
Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
On June 15 2012 03:01 Atoissen wrote: A couple of wins and a years slump is forgotten? Anyways, TL is about more then just results, so I am not that worried about Tyler. How can you call it a slump? In SC2 his results have been pretty consistent. Only if you consider his status in BW can you consider it a slump. | ||
|
sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
| ||
|
Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On June 15 2012 03:41 sc2superfan101 wrote: i bet he gets picked up by LG-IM I think Genius said he wanted a foreign team instead. | ||
|
archonOOid
1983 Posts
| ||
|
Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On June 15 2012 04:34 archonOOid wrote: When will the KESPA teams start picking up players? Maybe team8 or another team has a slot open for a top notch sc2 toss players. They should be attractive to the GOM TV players as they provide a better salary. They arent allowed to for about a year. Would be pretty unfair. | ||
|
GinDo
3327 Posts
On June 15 2012 04:36 Fragile51 wrote: They arent allowed to for about a year. Would be pretty unfair. Link please. | ||
|
Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
Right now i can't find the exact article in which it was stated but there is an official agreement that ESF players can't currently be acquired by Kespa times for some time. | ||
|
Demorase
136 Posts
On June 15 2012 04:36 Fragile51 wrote: They arent allowed to for about a year. Would be pretty unfair. Does it really make any difference? It's not like most SC2 teams will be able in 1 year to make up for the money those top SC1 teams have been making in all those BW years. They'll probably end up acquiring all the current top players that they feel are worth it the second they decide to. | ||
|
Woosixion
118 Posts
| ||
|
Roxor9999
Netherlands771 Posts
On June 15 2012 03:39 Uncultured wrote: How can you call it a slump? In SC2 his results have been pretty consistent. Only if you consider his status in BW can you consider it a slump. He did pretty well at the 2010 MLGs and after that he accomplished nothing for a whole year and a half. I would consider that a slump. | ||
|
fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:36 Catatonic wrote: I do love the ignorance your comment has. You're inferring you have to be bad at sc2 inorder to play LoL well let's see last I checked Fruitdealer is now in the LoL scene kinda and he is a GSL winner and such. Comments such as these only make you look like an ignorant child/elitest thinking that one game takes so significantly less skill that it's not worth even mentioning in the same category as your game which in fact it is. In both size of audience and skill seeing as how both games take a significant amount of it. Fruitdealer became irrelevent in the SC2 scene pretty quickly after winning the very first GSL. | ||
|
normalman
United Kingdom36 Posts
On June 15 2012 06:01 fraktoasters wrote: Fruitdealer became irrelevent in the SC2 scene pretty quickly after winning the very first GSL. Yeah... You've picked a pretty bad example. It would be quite easy for one to say Fruitdealer's lack of success as the increase in SC2 professional skill level led him to seek an easier path in a different game (LoL)... Not that I'm saying that, but your example makes it incredibly easy for someone to. | ||
|
m1rk3
Canada412 Posts
| ||
|
lorkac
United States2297 Posts
On June 15 2012 06:22 normalman wrote: Yeah... You've picked a pretty bad example. It would be quite easy for one to say Fruitdealer's lack of success as the increase in SC2 professional skill level led him to seek an easier path in a different game (LoL)... Not that I'm saying that, but your example makes it incredibly easy for someone to. he and Tester also stopped practicing. I think that was the clincher. | ||
|
jiberish
80 Posts
| ||
|
KneeDeeP
United States256 Posts
| ||
|
OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
On June 15 2012 05:54 Woosixion wrote: maybe genius was getting tired of being overshadowed by drg...i think he was the teams ace before drgs meteoric rise and genius was secretly jealous Overshadowed by DRG? You realize that Genius was runner up Code S finals GSL Season 1 (this past feb) This was during DRG's prime and Genius was right there. There was no jealousy. They rose up together. MVP vs MVP finals | ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On June 15 2012 09:27 OPL3SA2 wrote: Overshadowed by DRG? You realize that Genius was runner up Code S finals GSL Season 1 (this past feb) This was during DRG's prime and Genius was right there. There was no jealousy. They rose up together. MVP vs MVP finals This might possibly be true to some extent. DRG reported that Genius left the team house soon after the finals and wouldn't talk to him for most of season 2. It's sad. | ||
|
cameler
Canada99 Posts
| ||
|
takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
On June 15 2012 05:18 Demorase wrote: Does it really make any difference? It's not like most SC2 teams will be able in 1 year to make up for the money those top SC1 teams have been making in all those BW years. They'll probably end up acquiring all the current top players that they feel are worth it the second they decide to. Im not so sure about this. Im not aware of their bankroll compared to all other teams but I have noticed that a lot of pros that have been changing teams are electing for foreign teams. In some cases it could be money or just more foreign tourneys but in some cases (i.e. Violet) it had to due with the difference in lifestyle. It will be interesting to see if pro players elect to go to KESPA teams when they can just stay on their current korean sc2 team that has a tough training regiment but not like the KESPA teams. Or if the current trend of Korean pros moving to foreign teams will continue. | ||
|
zerK
Canada176 Posts
so sad | ||
|
Radel
United States115 Posts
| ||
|
OneBaseKing
Afghanistan412 Posts
| ||
|
Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
On June 15 2012 09:32 neoghaleon55 wrote: This might possibly be true to some extent. DRG reported that Genius left the team house soon after the finals and wouldn't talk to him for most of season 2. It's sad. It wouldn't surprise me if that were true, DRG really humiliated Genius, not just in SC2, he even went to give him an army jacket in his booth after he won, remember? That's a cruel joke to make in front of thousands of people. | ||
|
hooahah
3752 Posts
| ||
|
Dakure
United States513 Posts
TeamDrama.net awww yee | ||
|
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On June 15 2012 15:42 Shinespark wrote: It wouldn't surprise me if that were true, DRG really humiliated Genius, not just in SC2, he even went to give him an army jacket in his booth after he won, remember? That's a cruel joke to make in front of thousands of people. He wasn't humiliated? are you kidding me? DRG and Genius were very good friends, it wasn't humiliation and Genius did the ceremonies to him as well, it was as friendly as can be, also look at this interview:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344906 Direct quote from it: "Why did you leave MVP? I feel that Coach Choi’s style didn’t mesh well with me. I left the team after long consideration. The coach’s and my personalities clashed a little bit too much. It’s not that I had a particular problem within the team that made me leave." | ||
|
Sikly
United States413 Posts
On June 15 2012 15:42 Shinespark wrote: It wouldn't surprise me if that were true, DRG really humiliated Genius, not just in SC2, he even went to give him an army jacket in his booth after he won, remember? That's a cruel joke to make in front of thousands of people. If anything I think DRG might have been one of the reasons Genius stayed in MVP so long. It sounds like this is an issue that goes back several months before even the GSL, and I'm pretty sure he had left the team house before the finals. It wouldn't surprise me if a team like SK picked up Genius. EG is a possibility, but I don't know if they have the pockets atm for another investment. Hope he finds a good team, he's a pretty damn good player. | ||
|
gulshngill
Malaysia140 Posts
| ||
|
Killerkrack
664 Posts
| ||
|
Braric
Canada184 Posts
On June 15 2012 16:29 gulshngill wrote: I'm sure he'll do well in a foreign team, Quantic maybe?? Having practice partners like Squirtle and Parting would be amazing for him We all know how good him and Naniwa would get along | ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On June 15 2012 16:23 draumr wrote: If anything I think DRG might have been one of the reasons Genius stayed in MVP so long. It sounds like this is an issue that goes back several months before even the GSL, and I'm pretty sure he had left the team house before the finals. It wouldn't surprise me if a team like SK picked up Genius. EG is a possibility, but I don't know if they have the pockets atm for another investment. Hope he finds a good team, he's a pretty damn good player. I think you may be right. DRG X Genius forever~!! | ||
|
Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
Grubby.Genius | ||
|
Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Unlikely to be Liquid or EG as they have Hero and JYP respectively. Time will tell. | ||
|
Cheydahi
United Kingdom37 Posts
Complexity is another possibility. I'd love a Slayers aquisition but that is highly doubtful. | ||
|
Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On June 15 2012 14:19 OneBaseKing wrote: He should join EG or should I rather say, EG should I buy Genius. So offering a "free agent" money to join your team in the form of a salary is buying them? Then more teams then just EG will be attempting to "buy" him | ||
|
Fueled
United States1610 Posts
On June 15 2012 19:07 Cheydahi wrote: I doubt it will be Liquid or EG. Their rosters are pretty full these days and although Genius would be a sick pickup for a team they might not have the spare cash to lure him. I wouldn't honestly be surprised if he went to Quantic. They are picking up a lot of players and they don't seem as much as a team like the Liquids, EGs and Slayers so he could stay out of the way from others (won't name names) in there whilst picking up a salary. Complexity is another possibility. I'd love a Slayers aquisition but that is highly doubtful. Both EG and Liquid really need another strong Protoss player. I'd go towards Liquid getting him between the two since EG will probably try and go after Stephano in August (unless their pockets are really that deep and they can afford going after 2 big players). | ||
|
TT1
Canada10000 Posts
| ||
|
dellesh1ruH
Denmark509 Posts
On June 15 2012 19:27 mTwTT1 wrote: well genius was on the cj b-team with idra so who knows oO Was his id also Genius back then? | ||
|
TT1
Canada10000 Posts
ever)t(eunbyul | ||
|
Alessaila
Australia2 Posts
| ||
|
Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
edit* thanks <3 | ||
|
Sicariidae
50 Posts
On June 15 2012 20:06 Sableyeah wrote: Anyone know why he left? I went through a lot of the pages but can't find any information as to why he left. Only that he left. + Show Spoiler + Why did you leave MVP? I feel that Coach Choi’s style didn’t mesh well with me. I left the team after long consideration. The coach’s and my personalities clashed a little bit too much. It’s not that I had a particular problem within the team that made me leave. When did you decide to leave the team? I’ve actually been thinking about leaving for a long time. However, every time I tried to, the coach persuaded me out of it but this time, that wasn’t possible and the decision was made. | ||
|
sTsCaboose
United States10 Posts
i wonder who will pick him up? | ||
|
ClydeFrogSC2
United States29 Posts
| ||
|
KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
On June 16 2012 04:59 ClydeFrogSC2 wrote: inb4 ROOTGenius That'd be awesome although im kinda leaning towards mouz. | ||
|
Kbafewx
United States16 Posts
| ||
|
asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
PLEASE JUST NOT A FOREIGN TEAM -____- | ||
|
Nerko
Sweden34 Posts
| ||
|
Freeze967
United States230 Posts
| ||
|
naux
Canada738 Posts
| ||
|
WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote: New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment. [Citation needed]. | ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote: New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment. I heard he's talking to mouz best wishes to him. I hope to see him and DRG on the same stage again one day... | ||
|
naux
Canada738 Posts
On June 16 2012 10:29 neoghaleon55 wrote: I heard he's talking to mouz best wishes to him. I hope to see him and DRG on the same stage again one day... Talking to mouz? LOL his in talks with fnatic not mouz quit lying | ||
|
Lazorstrats
Netherlands43 Posts
| ||
|
covetousrat
2109 Posts
| ||
|
Fueled
United States1610 Posts
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote: New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment. If he winds up going to Fnatic it will be huge. They are already so strong in the GSTL this season and to potentially add another strong Protoss next to Oz? Watch out GSTL! | ||
|
ZachFreeman
Australia484 Posts
On June 16 2012 20:59 Fueled wrote: If he winds up going to Fnatic it will be huge. They are already so strong in the GSTL this season and to potentially add another strong Protoss next to Oz? Watch out GSTL! if he joins fnatic he wouldnt be allowed on the GSTL roster though. | ||
|
ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
Pls make it happen | ||
|
Noruxas
Netherlands129 Posts
"Hello! Im Genius, and Im talking with fnatic!!!" Its true. | ||
|
PixelNite
France1008 Posts
| ||
|
Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On June 17 2012 02:32 Noruxas wrote: "Hello! Im Genius, and Im talking with fnatic!!!" Its true. Seeeeeeems legit. | ||
|
-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote: New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment. If he goes to fnatic they literally instantly become my new favourite team. Oz and Genius on the same team? :D | ||
|
wideye
United States209 Posts
| ||
|
Inhumane
Canada145 Posts
On June 17 2012 10:57 wideye wrote: so do the foreign teams just pay more? Foreign teams tend to have bigger sponsors, or simply MORE sponsors, so they have the ability to pay more. | ||
|
Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
On June 17 2012 10:57 wideye wrote: so do the foreign teams just pay more? The pay isn't the biggest thing for them I think because the team will pay them like 1k a month which is infinitely better than nothing. The free travel to foreign events is amazing and the real attraction for Koreans. | ||
|
stew_
Canada239 Posts
On June 17 2012 11:00 Inhumane wrote: Foreign teams tend to have bigger sponsors, or simply MORE sponsors, so they have the ability to pay more. i think that's only the gsl teams... im pretty sure the proleague teams have huge salaries | ||
|
Inhumane
Canada145 Posts
On June 17 2012 11:09 stew_ wrote: i think that's only the gsl teams... im pretty sure the proleague teams have huge salaries Oh, well yes, of course. I didn't realize we were at the point where we are including the KeSPA teams now when we discuss Foreign teams vs. Korean teams. | ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On June 17 2012 11:09 stew_ wrote: i think that's only the gsl teams... im pretty sure the proleague teams have huge salaries huge salaries for the star players. I'm not sure what the average salary is though. And its a bit too soon to bring up Kespa teams as they can't sign current sc2 pro's for a year. | ||
|
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
| ||
|
polyphonyEX
United States2539 Posts
On June 17 2012 08:53 Lightspeaker wrote: If he goes to fnatic they literally instantly become my new favourite team. Oz and Genius on the same team? :D Are you telling me that they aren't already your favorite team? Fnatic owning! | ||
|
Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote: New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment. Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho. | ||
|
ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
On June 17 2012 13:41 darkness wrote: Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho. but it's ok for fnatic to do so? wtf... | ||
|
Vekalisk
Australia137 Posts
On June 17 2012 13:41 darkness wrote: Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho. With EG being my favourite team I'm always excited to see them with a new player, doesn't matter who it is really. Don't know why you'd think that. | ||
|
Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
fnatic isn't as excessive in buying players as EG imho | ||
|
FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On June 17 2012 14:35 darkness wrote: fnatic isn't as excessive in buying players as EG imho EG: Puma, JYP, HuK, Thorzain fnatic: aLive, Oz, Moon, potentially Genius hmm.......... doesn't seem so different does it? | ||
|
TeamBanished
United States301 Posts
| ||
|
Vul
United States685 Posts
On June 17 2012 15:04 FairForever wrote: EG: Puma, JYP, HuK, Thorzain fnatic: aLive, Oz, Moon, potentially Genius hmm.......... doesn't seem so different does it? The last thing we should be rooting against is competition over player contracts, that's the only way that SC2 is going to become a better option as a full time profession. Players switching teams, or some teams buying out contracts and becoming "The Yankees" of SC2 is at worst a necessary evil. As far as the fans are concerned, if Genius joins a foreign team he'll most likely remain in the GSL/GSTL but also have the opportunity to travel to more foreign tournaments. IMO it doesn't negatively affect the fans or competition at all, in SC2 there are plenty of teams with good players and no team has been able to use money to push itself way ahead of the competition. MVP isn't close to crumbling as a result of poaching. And even if EG got both Genius and Stephano, they could become a GSTL contender as a separate team but certainly not the clear favorite. If we start to see many of the world's top players on one team then I think sure, we have reason to complain. Otherwise, I think it's good for the pro scene and I don't understand this presumption that somehow pro players are obligated to stay with the team that originally signed them. | ||
|
FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On June 17 2012 16:53 Vul wrote: The last thing we should be rooting against is competition over player contracts, that's the only way that SC2 is going to become a better option as a full time profession. Players switching teams, or some teams buying out contracts and becoming "The Yankees" of SC2 is at worst a necessary evil. As far as the fans are concerned, if Genius joins a foreign team he'll most likely remain in the GSL/GSTL but also have the opportunity to travel to more foreign tournaments. IMO it doesn't negatively affect the fans or competition at all, in SC2 there are plenty of teams with good players and no team has been able to use money to push itself way ahead of the competition. MVP isn't close to crumbling as a result of poaching. And even if EG got both Genius and Stephano, they could become a GSTL contender as a separate team but certainly not the clear favorite. If we start to see many of the world's top players on one team then I think sure, we have reason to complain. Otherwise, I think it's good for the pro scene and I don't understand this presumption that somehow pro players are obligated to stay with the team that originally signed them. No I agree with you. I am just talking about how his argument is hypocritical in the first place. | ||
|
blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 17 2012 15:04 FairForever wrote: EG: Puma, JYP, HuK, Thorzain fnatic: aLive, Oz, Moon, potentially Genius hmm.......... doesn't seem so different does it? Thank you, it's nice seeing logic for once lol. Although I am not a big fan of genius and don't want him on EG, and I never cared for fnatic since they are pretty much a korean only team like fxo. | ||
|
BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
On June 17 2012 17:40 blade55555 wrote: Thank you, it's nice seeing logic for once lol. Although I am not a big fan of genius and don't want him on EG, and I never cared for fnatic since they are pretty much a korean only team like fxo. ya sometimes i kick back and think to myself, back in my day we had foreign teams with foreigners on them -.- i am happy to see the highest level of competition at more tourneys though, can't complain about that. in a perfect world (for me) korean teams would have equal footing [salary wise] with foreign ones and thus be able to retain their players better edit: ^ and send them to places like MLG and DH. | ||
|
StriderDoom
United States17 Posts
any team would be lucky to have him | ||
|
Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
Genius Hwaaaaaaitiiiiiiingggggggg! | ||
|
haticK
United States74 Posts
| ||
|
CrappyHippo
Canada275 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: D; but but but... ;; What is Monster staring at? Anyone? | ||
|
naux
Canada738 Posts
pretty sure thats tails and not monster.. | ||
|
bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Its | ||
|
CrappyHippo
Canada275 Posts
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/b/b5/2307.jpg) Tails,![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/a/a1/Monstergsl.jpg) Monster. Judge for yourself. | ||
|
ultrablaster
Seychelles48 Posts
Some kind of grudge or just showing off? | ||
|
liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
| ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On June 18 2012 21:27 ultrablaster wrote: I wonder why he is so eager to fight his ex-teammates from MVP. In interview he said that DRG would be his number one choice but since he cant choose him, Keen or Sniper will do too. Some kind of grudge or just showing off? DRG and Genius have an ongoing bromance-rivalry thing going on. It's completely normal. | ||
|
growlizing
Norway122 Posts
On June 18 2012 12:24 CrappyHippo wrote: Munster. Judge for yourself. FTFY Now, any news on where Genius might go? | ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On June 18 2012 21:27 ultrablaster wrote: I wonder why he is so eager to fight his ex-teammates from MVP. In interview he said that DRG would be his number one choice but since he cant choose him, Keen or Sniper will do too. Some kind of grudge or just showing off? the DRG pick is probably just for fun. As for Keen and Sniper, well Sniper, as we saw, is one of the weakest players in Code S. And Keen, maybe Genius knows his TvP really well and knows how to exploit it. | ||
|
WackaAlpaca
Canada208 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:36 Catatonic wrote: I do love the ignorance your comment has. You're inferring you have to be bad at sc2 inorder to play LoL well let's see last I checked Fruitdealer is now in the LoL scene kinda and he is a GSL winner and such. Comments such as these only make you look like an ignorant child/elitest thinking that one game takes so significantly less skill that it's not worth even mentioning in the same category as your game which in fact it is. In both size of audience and skill seeing as how both games take a significant amount of it. thanks, i havent had a good laugh in a while | ||
|
archonOOid
1983 Posts
| ||
|
MiX
United States109 Posts
| ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On June 19 2012 07:26 MiX wrote: Don't know if this has been posted before, but I just watched the interviews and it seems like there is bad blood between genius and MVP. Genius says all MVP players should watch out and says he will pick sniper or keen and hopes to have as many MVP players in his group as possible. Sort of weird since he seemed to be really friendly with MVP when he was on the team. I don't think he seriously hates them, he only has problems with Coach Choi. Genius's only having fun teasing his old teammates. | ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 19 2012 07:26 MiX wrote: Don't know if this has been posted before, but I just watched the interviews and it seems like there is bad blood between genius and MVP. Genius says all MVP players should watch out and says he will pick sniper or keen and hopes to have as many MVP players in his group as possible. Sort of weird since he seemed to be really friendly with MVP when he was on the team. ouch that doesn't sound good... | ||
|
v3chr0
United States856 Posts
IMO, it sounds like he's joking/being Genius. | ||
|
CursivE
Australia317 Posts
On June 19 2012 11:48 v3chr0 wrote: Genius is really cocky, combine that with Coach Choi, and his long relationship with the players on team MVP, it's hard to judge Genius' statements in the interview. IMO, it sounds like he's joking/being Genius. It's the same in sports in general. You always want to get one back on your old team/club and ribbing old teammates is always funny. | ||
|
yookstah
Australia655 Posts
| ||
|
BoggieMan
520 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:27 PhoenixDark wrote: Seems like most Koreans who join foreigner teams get worse outside of HerO. I hope he didn't jump to a foreign team just to get a salary : / might be because herO is still in korea and live with some koreans aswell as jinro huk and tlo, however violet seem to be doing quite well aswell. | ||
|
bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
| ||
|
Ariuz
Germany39 Posts
On June 20 2012 02:06 bubblegumbo wrote: Dark week for esports...First Nada's retirement now the DRG Genuis bromance destroyed. totally agree ... :< | ||
|
Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
On June 19 2012 19:16 BoggieMan wrote: might be because herO is still in korea and live with some koreans aswell as jinro huk and tlo, however violet seem to be doing quite well aswell. I think Koreans in general are just a little overestimated just because they're Koreans. Just because you placed pretty high in Code S once or twice doesn't mean you're capable of winning foreign tournaments. Not to offend anyone, but Genius, ForGG or SuperNova aren't players who just go and win MLG/IPL/Dreamhack. Genius for example tried his luck at 2 Dreamhacks recently and went out in ro16 and ro8. When they join a foreigner team they will most likely end up being another JYP, Zenio, Vines or whatever. | ||
|
simian_sc
United States91 Posts
| ||
|
GeorgeyBeats
United Kingdom338 Posts
Edit: Totally forgot about Killer!!! Are they still missing a korean zerg.... perhaps I am just being dim. | ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On June 20 2012 02:06 bubblegumbo wrote: Dark week for esports...First Nada's retirement now the DRG Genuis bromance destroyed. Dude, have you never seen Korean drama? DRG and Genius will be back in each other's arms, reconciled, in like 20 episodes! | ||
|
GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
| ||
|
gentix
United States40 Posts
On June 13 2012 16:21 Alva` wrote: iirc there was deal made that KESPA teams will not be able to contract GOM players for atleast a year Maybe that's why he decided he didn't want to be a GOM player anymore  | ||
|
farvacola
United States18824 Posts
On June 21 2012 08:42 gentix wrote: Maybe that's why he decided he didn't want to be a GOM player anymore He just trounced his Ro32 in Code S, he's still a GOM player. SMH | ||
|
Svennedude
Belgium86 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
|
Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On June 22 2012 02:42 Svennedude wrote: "dirty cash" people get banned for that ?? we live in a democracy where everyone is entitled to speak out and say their own opinion... getting banned for that is saying mods have nothing better do to... power hungry mods! Fact: Saying stupid unfounded shit that is only going to desolve this thread into a flamefest is going to get you banned. Expecting otherwise is quite frankly, dumb. | ||
|
naVaz
Germany38 Posts
On June 22 2012 02:45 Fragile51 wrote: Fact: Saying stupid unfounded shit that is only going to desolve this thread into a flamefest is going to get you banned. Expecting otherwise is quite frankly, dumb. the way you express yourself is quite the opposite of the message you are trying to deliver. well you gotta post alot of "stupid shit" to get to your 10k, right? | ||
|
Teacher74
United States47 Posts
| ||
|
ChaiNs
57 Posts
| ||
|
StriderDoom
United States17 Posts
On June 20 2012 23:11 Champloo wrote: I think Koreans in general are just a little overestimated just because they're Koreans. Just because you placed pretty high in Code S once or twice doesn't mean you're capable of winning foreign tournaments. Not to offend anyone, but Genius, ForGG or SuperNova aren't players who just go and win MLG/IPL/Dreamhack. Genius for example tried his luck at 2 Dreamhacks recently and went out in ro16 and ro8. When they join a foreigner team they will most likely end up being another JYP, Zenio, Vines or whatever. code S is the best of the best in the sc2 world and genius has always been consistently good regardless of his DH results saying he doesnt have what it takes to win foreign tournaments is kinda dumb imo i hope he has to chance to be on a foreign team and compete in more tournaments overseas | ||
|
Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On June 22 2012 02:42 Svennedude wrote: "dirty cash" people get banned for that ?? we live in a democracy where everyone is entitled to speak out and say their own opinion... getting banned for that is saying mods have nothing better do to... power hungry mods! Doesn't work that way on the internet, at least not on forums where they have rules. | ||
|
Sikly
United States413 Posts
On June 20 2012 23:11 Champloo wrote: I think Koreans in general are just a little overestimated just because they're Koreans. Just because you placed pretty high in Code S once or twice doesn't mean you're capable of winning foreign tournaments. Not to offend anyone, but Genius, ForGG or SuperNova aren't players who just go and win MLG/IPL/Dreamhack. Genius for example tried his luck at 2 Dreamhacks recently and went out in ro16 and ro8. When they join a foreigner team they will most likely end up being another JYP, Zenio, Vines or whatever. Genius, ForGG, and Supernova could all EASILY take any foreign tournament. Easily. Alicia just took second at MLG, and he isn't any better than Genius. Sure, the ones they've went to they haven't had DRG or MKP like dominating performances, but they also haven't been to nearly as many foreign tournaments as them. If Genius traveled as much as DRG I bet he'd have won a tournament by now. | ||
|
aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
On June 22 2012 09:02 naVaz wrote: the way you express yourself is quite the opposite of the message you are trying to deliver. well you gotta post alot of "stupid shit" to get to your 10k, right? Or you guys can just take it to pms On topic: How has he not been picked up yet? Or has he and we just don't know? | ||
|
TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
Maybe this related :D | ||
|
Imbu
United States903 Posts
On June 22 2012 11:05 aRyuujin wrote: Or you guys can just take it to pms On topic: How has he not been picked up yet? Or has he and we just don't know? I remember Xeris one time mentioning that a lot Koreans have misplaced ideas of how much they will get from a Foreigner team (I think this came in a similar Sleep thread) and so they keep asking for more than there really is. I mean, I'm guessing that Genius is looking for a forigener team and none of them are able to agree on a salary. On a similar note, maybe he'll end up on TSL :D! | ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On June 22 2012 11:22 TRaFFiC wrote: On Off The Record, Genius seemed pretty serious about having a problem with the way his team mates supported DRG, but not him. Maybe this related :D F'ing DongRaeGu is his briberies!! lol Thanks for pointing that out, I have not yet watched that episode until now. | ||
|
Dakkas
2550 Posts
On June 22 2012 11:22 TRaFFiC wrote: On Off The Record, Genius seemed pretty serious about having a problem with the way his team mates supported DRG, but not him. Maybe this related :D That's pretty sad to see something like that, I think it's entirely understanable for Genius to be like that. | ||
|
neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
because DRG buys them shit with his prize money. Can't blame DRG either...he's just being nice... lol | ||
|
Hurricaned
France126 Posts
| ||
|
Sithelin123
Canada168 Posts
On June 24 2012 08:16 Hurricaned wrote: Didn't genius have to do his military service? At gsl season 1 finals, drg trolled him with it remember? You mean when they played each other in the finals? That was just DRG mocking Genius. | ||
|
Gorilla23
United States339 Posts
On June 24 2012 08:16 Hurricaned wrote: Didn't genius have to do his military service? At gsl season 1 finals, drg trolled him with it remember? I thought of it as a joke more than anything. DRG taunting Genius 'saying', "You should quit now since you could not beat me." That's how it came off to me. | ||
|
iEatWoofers
Switzerland108 Posts
| ||
|
MBH
Ireland796 Posts
Mouz? | ||
|
wanghis
United States320 Posts
could this be Genius? | ||
|
Flaele
Belgium182 Posts
| ||
|
FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
| ||
|
HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
| ||
|
quannguyen
Vietnam1390 Posts
| ||
|
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
| ||
|
canikizu
4860 Posts
| ||
|
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
| ||
|
ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
I'm just worried about him practicing. He was having a hard time practicing even when he was on a Korean team...I find it hard to believe his regiment will get any better on a team based thousands of miles away. Hopefully he can stay focused. He's proven he doesn't need as much practice as the next player, but that line of thinking can be a slippery slope...just look at FruitDealer. | ||
|
Asha
United Kingdom38199 Posts
| ||
|
leperphilliac
United States399 Posts
| ||
|
Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
This is gonna be awesome !!! Good luck to him under his new tagg | ||
|
SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
Maybe I'm biased because I'm such a fan of Genius but I've felt bad for him. I kinda guessed that his team probably supported DRG more. It makes sense to a certain degree, because he is winning a lot. But you can't ignore when your other teamate also did very good. | ||
|
Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
| ||
|
Mimi :D
Germany148 Posts
| ||
|
The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
| ||
|
Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
Mana + Hasu weren't really at the level of Naniwa/Sase or Parting/Squirtle or MC... MC, but now with Genius added to the list i can't think of a "better" protoss lineup ( i say better with quotes since i obviously know nothing about x unknown korean protoss pro gamer that might be on one of the B teams and still hasn't made a name for himself but its actually a god ). | ||
|
Mario1209
United States1077 Posts
On July 09 2012 23:55 Aterons_toss wrote: WoW, think of the fact that Mouz now has Genius, Mana and Hasuobs... pretty much strongest protos lineup for any team.. ever Mana + Hasu weren't really at the level of Naniwa/Sase or Parting/Squirtle or MC... MC, but now with Genius added to the list i can't think of a "better" protoss lineup ( i say better with quotes since i obviously know nothing about x unknown korean protoss pro gamer that might be on one of the B teams and still hasn't made a name for himself but its actually a god ). Their protoss lineup isn't nearly as good as StartaleQ's or even just startale's. | ||
|
vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On July 09 2012 23:58 Mario1209 wrote: Their protoss lineup isn't nearly as good as StartaleQ's or even just startale's. Also, IM's Protoss lineup is getting sick as well with Seed, Ready, First, and Yonghwa. | ||
|
MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On July 09 2012 23:55 Aterons_toss wrote: WoW, think of the fact that Mouz now has Genius, Mana and Hasuobs... pretty much strongest protos lineup for any team.. ever Mana + Hasu weren't really at the level of Naniwa/Sase or Parting/Squirtle or MC... MC, but now with Genius added to the list i can't think of a "better" protoss lineup ( i say better with quotes since i obviously know nothing about x unknown korean protoss pro gamer that might be on one of the B teams and still hasn't made a name for himself but its actually a god ). You mentioned 2 players that are part of a much superior protoss lineup team. Squirtle, Parting, Ace - Startale. Not enough? Take Slayers: Crank, Brown, Alicia and Puzzle. On a very similar level to current Mouz line up would be Fnatic: Nightend, Oz, Tod. IM: Seed, Ready, Yonghwa (likely still superior). Mouz certainly has more "star" power, which is basically foreign exposure and recognition, but skill wise, half the Korean teams match or beat that protoss line up alone. The other side of the coin though, they likely do have a better protoss line up than half the Korean teams as well. That being said, if Mouz goes up against any of those teams, I'll be rooting for Mouz. | ||
|
Mario1209
United States1077 Posts
On July 10 2012 00:01 MrCash wrote: You mentioned 2 players that are part of a much superior protoss lineup team. Squirtle, Parting, Ace - Startale. Not enough? Take Slayers: Crank, Brown, Alicia and Puzzle. On a very similar level to current Mouz line up would be Fnatic: Nightend, Oz, Tod. IM: Seed, Ready, Yonghwa (likely still superior). Mouz certainly has more "star" power, which is basically foreign exposure and recognition, but skill wise, half the Korean teams match or beat that protoss line up alone. That being said, if Mouz goes up against any of those teams, I'll be rooting for Mouz. oh yeah, Prime's protoss lineup is also better..... | ||
|
Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On July 10 2012 00:01 MrCash wrote: You mentioned 2 players that are part of a much superior protoss lineup team. Squirtle, Parting, Ace - Startale. Not enough? Take Slayers: Crank, Brown, Alicia and Puzzle. On a very similar level to current Mouz line up would be Fnatic: Nightend, Oz, Tod. IM: Seed, Ready, Yonghwa (likely still superior). Mouz certainly has more "star" power, which is basically foreign exposure and recognition, but skill wise, half the Korean teams match or beat that protoss line up alone. That being said, if Mouz goes up against any of those teams, I'll be rooting for Mouz. Nightend and Tod are not better than Mana and HasuObs. Tod may be the most over rated player in the game. | ||
|
MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On July 10 2012 00:03 Dexington wrote: Nightend and Tod are not better than Mana and HasuObs. Tod may be the most over rated player in the game. Don't know, might be true, never claimed they were better either though. | ||
|
A-p-p-l-e-s
Canada314 Posts
| ||
|
Mario1209
United States1077 Posts
On July 10 2012 00:08 A-p-p-l-e-s wrote: so did genius join a team? read the last page | ||
|
Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
| ||
|
bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On July 09 2012 23:55 Aterons_toss wrote: WoW, think of the fact that Mouz now has Genius, Mana and Hasuobs... pretty much strongest protos lineup for any team.. ever Mana + Hasu weren't really at the level of Naniwa/Sase or Parting/Squirtle or MC... MC, but now with Genius added to the list i can't think of a "better" protoss lineup ( i say better with quotes since i obviously know nothing about x unknown korean protoss pro gamer that might be on one of the B teams and still hasn't made a name for himself but its actually a god ). StarTale's Protoss would like a word >_> And on that note pretty much every Korean team... even Prime's solo Protoss line of Creator. Maybe the best western Protoss line-up, but you can't really say its western with Genius there now. | ||
|
canikizu
4860 Posts
On July 10 2012 00:10 Torte de Lini wrote: I think Mouz and EG are joining up o.o Companies merge. Evil Genius and Mouz become MouzGenius. | ||
|
AngryFarmer
United States560 Posts
| ||
|
Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
| ||
|
farnham
1378 Posts
On July 10 2012 00:12 bokchoi wrote: StarTale's Protoss would like a word >_> And on that note pretty much every Korean team... even Prime's solo Protoss line of Creator. Maybe the best western Protoss line-up, but you can't really say its western with Genius there now. NSHoseo | ||
|
Zvenn3n
Sweden1196 Posts
On July 10 2012 00:22 canikizu wrote: Companies merge. Evil Genius and Mouz become MouzGenius. IDK about that, I'd prefer EvilMice, but that's just me OT: If it's true, then SWEET! I love Genius & his ceremonies ^^ | ||
|
BoB_KiLLeR
Spain620 Posts
Last top team without korean... don't break the tradition. | ||
|
Noocta
France12578 Posts
| ||
|
nRoot
Germany928 Posts
| ||
|
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On July 10 2012 01:23 Noocta wrote: Apparently, it's just a LoL news https://twitter.com/mousesports/status/222364087819042816 LOL. Never felt such a letdown. | ||
|
SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
On July 10 2012 00:59 BoB_KiLLeR wrote: :o nooo mouz please nooooooooo Last top team without korean... don't break the tradition. What tradition? mousesports had Koreans and Chinese players in the (WC3) past. Only difference is that I trust mousesports to not marginalize Non-Koreans out like other teams. | ||
|
MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
| ||
|
pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On July 10 2012 01:23 Noocta wrote: Apparently, it's just a LoL news https://twitter.com/mousesports/status/222364087819042816 No real reference to the term "genius", which was clearly a hint about the announcement. They could still have been announcing the announcement of something else. | ||
|
MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On July 10 2012 02:00 pdd wrote: No real reference to the term "genius", which was clearly a hint about the announcement. They could still have been announcing the announcement of something else. Since EG doesn't have a LoL team (that I'm aware of), this accretion makes sense. | ||
|
phANT1m
South Africa535 Posts
| ||
|
Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
| ||
|
PhoenixDark
United States286 Posts
Hopefully staying on Korea will be more feasible for players as more sponsors enter the Korean scene over the coming year | ||
|
Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
https://twitter.com/EmpireStrangeR | ||
|
TylerThaCreator
United States906 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:51 Hardigan wrote: It's going to be empire. They wont sign Violet again and there will be a new addition this week https://twitter.com/EmpireStrangeR good call imo | ||
|
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:31 PhoenixDark wrote: Meh, I hope he doesn't join a foreign team. That rarely works out, except for HerO and Puma... Hopefully staying on Korea will be more feasible for players as more sponsors enter the Korean scene over the coming year And Violet. And Alive. And Taeja. And JYP. I could go on too | ||
|
GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On June 17 2012 15:04 FairForever wrote: EG: Puma, JYP, HuK, Thorzain fnatic: aLive, Oz, Moon, potentially Genius hmm.......... doesn't seem so different does it? It totally does... EG takes players as soon as they start to play well and get some accomplishments. Fnatic doesn't do that. | ||
|
Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
| ||
|
JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
| ||
|
00Visor
4337 Posts
On July 10 2012 04:51 Hardigan wrote: It's going to be empire. They wont sign Violet again and there will be a new addition this week https://twitter.com/EmpireStrangeR Supernova? Morrow? There are other strong free agents. | ||
|
Robson13
United Kingdom248 Posts
On July 10 2012 05:06 GreEny K wrote: It totally does... EG takes players as soon as they start to play well and get some accomplishments. Fnatic doesn't do that. Whats wrong with that, thats how most teams do it and EG had basically signed Thorzain before his dreamhack win | ||
|
ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On July 10 2012 05:06 GreEny K wrote: It totally does... EG takes players as soon as they start to play well and get some accomplishments. Fnatic doesn't do that. They sure as shit have, at least recently. aLive and Rain built up their resumes on TSL and then went to Fnatic. Oz built up his resume on FXO and then went to Fnatic. Moon and Byul are really the only players that have developed while on Fnatic, the rest were established talent that Fnatic picked up. They're no better than EG when it comes to that, don't delude yourself. And you really shouldn't blame them. With all these high-quality Koreans teamless or looking for more out of their team, these managers would have to be fools not to pick them up to bolster the roster. Whether or not they provide the correct atmosphere for them to keep improving is another matter altogether, and one many foreigner teams seem to not understand. | ||
|
SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
| ||
|
Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On July 10 2012 05:31 SilSol wrote: I wonder where he goes ;( According to reddit it might be mousesports. Not at all what I'd expect but hm. | ||
|
SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
On July 10 2012 05:34 Serelitz wrote: According to reddit it might be mousesports. Not at all what I'd expect but hm. oh Genius to mouz?! cool ;] | ||
|
FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On July 10 2012 05:27 ZasZ. wrote: They sure as shit have, at least recently. aLive and Rain built up their resumes on TSL and then went to Fnatic. Oz built up his resume on FXO and then went to Fnatic. Moon and Byul are really the only players that have developed while on Fnatic, the rest were established talent that Fnatic picked up. They're no better than EG when it comes to that, don't delude yourself. And you really shouldn't blame them. With all these high-quality Koreans teamless or looking for more out of their team, these managers would have to be fools not to pick them up to bolster the roster. Whether or not they provide the correct atmosphere for them to keep improving is another matter altogether, and one many foreigner teams seem to not understand. Really not Moon even, Moon is my favourite player but he already had Code A status prior to joining fnatic at the beginning of SC2, and he was runner up in Dreamhack Summer 2011 I believe (behind Huk) while he was on WMF. People just like to hate on EG for no apparent reason. | ||
|
Simsallabin
Nepal216 Posts
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the announcement of an announcement. We're not Evil, but Genius. Was a tweet yesterday so guess its mouz | ||
| ||
StarCraft 2 StarCraft: Brood War Dota 2 League of Legends Counter-Strike Super Smash Bros Heroes of the Storm Other Games |
|
Replay Cast
The PondCast
Replay Cast
HomeStory Cup
HomeStory Cup
CSO Cup
BSL: ProLeague
SOOP
SHIN vs ByuN
HomeStory Cup
BSL: ProLeague
[ Show More ] |
|
|
EPT
