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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
June 06 2012 21:27 GMT
#761
Good job guys. Another win in the pitchforks column.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
June 06 2012 21:27 GMT
#762
On June 07 2012 05:22 silentdecay01 wrote:
lol ya the guy will be fine.....These kids on this form has a higher chance of being mugged by the local gangs that are in Aniahiam california (i live in Los Angeles) The hispanic gangs who often attened this event for there brothers ect would pretty much destroy any of the rich priviliaged folks on this form lol.


inorite, cuz the only people who know how to fight are poor kids from the hood >.<
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
June 06 2012 21:31 GMT
#763
Usually those people know not to show up to a lan..


/sign
Chakoi
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom81 Posts
June 06 2012 21:34 GMT
#764
Stupid question:

What does it mean by qualifying by ladder?

How does that work?
The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
June 06 2012 21:38 GMT
#765
On June 07 2012 04:27 silentdecay01 wrote:
Just want to clear something up for all you people posting "blizzard should ban and know" blah blah.

Atm the current state of hacker devs, Are able to avoid "warden" (anti cheat program by blizzard) And blizzard has not had a full reverse engi team to combat the adv hacks that are being created by people who in all honestly are some of the top coders in the world.

Blizzard is still hiring people for the job to combat hackers...they been looking for sometime. Don't think you guys understand how hard it is to find someone able to defeat advanced coders and how expensive it is...only few people in the world really have the skill to do such things. Which is why blizzard trys to hit these coders/hackers with lawsuits rather then try to detect their hacks. its to expesnive to keep doing it with out making nay progresss.

Everytime Warden is updated...the hacker updates his project to avoid detection. Blizzard legaly and moraly can't just ban someone based on player say so. Yes player reports do help them out....but its very very hard to manage and decide if the person is hacking. Just some fyi.....Blizzard does not have a magical team of people who can make all hackers banned lol.

From the Battle.net terms of use:
7. ACCOUNT SUSPENSION/CANCELATION. BLIZZARD MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE ACCOUNTS AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU.
http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse.html

So yes, they can legally ban you because some player said so. Stop talking out of your ass.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
June 06 2012 21:39 GMT
#766
On June 07 2012 05:23 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 05:19 SpecialistSc wrote:
GOOD NEWS
apparently blizzard is aware of this problem as Zack is removed from the list

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/5832261

Ok, let's close this thread now.


Cool, great to see them taking action!! :D
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
June 06 2012 22:11 GMT
#767
On June 07 2012 04:27 silentdecay01 wrote:
Just want to clear something up for all you people posting "blizzard should ban and know" blah blah.

Atm the current state of hacker devs, Are able to avoid "warden" (anti cheat program by blizzard) And blizzard has not had a full reverse engi team to combat the adv hacks that are being created by people who in all honestly are some of the top coders in the world.

Blizzard is still hiring people for the job to combat hackers...they been looking for sometime. Don't think you guys understand how hard it is to find someone able to defeat advanced coders and how expensive it is...only few people in the world really have the skill to do such things. Which is why blizzard trys to hit these coders/hackers with lawsuits rather then try to detect their hacks. its to expesnive to keep doing it with out making nay progresss.

Everytime Warden is updated...the hacker updates his project to avoid detection. Blizzard legaly and moraly can't just ban someone based on player say so. Yes player reports do help them out....but its very very hard to manage and decide if the person is hacking. Just some fyi.....Blizzard does not have a magical team of people who can make all hackers banned lol.

Are you having a laugh? Someone who managed to tear into existing, partially documented code like SC2's does not count among the best coders in the world. Djikstra would be rolling over in his grave. He's probably quite smart and likely college educated, but he's not a god amongst computer scientists.
Who dat ninja?
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
June 06 2012 23:57 GMT
#768
On June 06 2012 16:08 Orracle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 16:05 Whitewing wrote:
On June 06 2012 15:49 maartendq wrote:
On June 06 2012 13:01 SDream wrote:
He basicly stole a fly ticket and a hotel reservation from someone else, I hope he gets sued.

Sorry, noone will go to jail because they cheated in a video game.


But the United States congress holds congressional hearings over cheating in baseball, so don't think it's out of the question >_>.


That is a ridiculous. This essentially warrants a software company to not require any security measures as their recourse could be the criminal system. I'm not sure about if you're familiar with how big of a joke the system is in the US, but it's terrible.

I've been banned on two accounts on the battle.net forums for letting them know how lackluster their programmers and ethics are. At the end of the day, this is ALL on Blizzard for putting greed above any ethics. Hell, I know the computer science program and business program where I studied required ethics.


Oh I live in massachusetts, trust me, I know how ridiculous the system is.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 00:04:57
June 07 2012 00:03 GMT
#769
On June 07 2012 07:11 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 04:27 silentdecay01 wrote:
Just want to clear something up for all you people posting "blizzard should ban and know" blah blah.

Atm the current state of hacker devs, Are able to avoid "warden" (anti cheat program by blizzard) And blizzard has not had a full reverse engi team to combat the adv hacks that are being created by people who in all honestly are some of the top coders in the world.

Blizzard is still hiring people for the job to combat hackers...they been looking for sometime. Don't think you guys understand how hard it is to find someone able to defeat advanced coders and how expensive it is...only few people in the world really have the skill to do such things. Which is why blizzard trys to hit these coders/hackers with lawsuits rather then try to detect their hacks. its to expesnive to keep doing it with out making nay progresss.

Everytime Warden is updated...the hacker updates his project to avoid detection. Blizzard legaly and moraly can't just ban someone based on player say so. Yes player reports do help them out....but its very very hard to manage and decide if the person is hacking. Just some fyi.....Blizzard does not have a magical team of people who can make all hackers banned lol.

Are you having a laugh? Someone who managed to tear into existing, partially documented code like SC2's does not count among the best coders in the world. Djikstra would be rolling over in his grave. He's probably quite smart and likely college educated, but he's not a god amongst computer scientists.


No kidding, the best coders in the world are not working on easy problems like map hacks. Preventing map hacking is just a difficult problem because:

1) Users have complete access to their computer.
2) The map data has to be in memory somewhere.

The only real prevention is for Blizzard to work like Dota 2 does and not even send data that the client can't see. But that would require rebuilding quite a bit of code as well as hosting a lot more servers. Though they do this to some degree for D3 anyway.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 07 2012 00:09 GMT
#770
hacking outside any official setting is pretty a pretty moot discussion.
liftlift > tsm
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 00:33:04
June 07 2012 00:31 GMT
#771
On June 07 2012 07:11 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 04:27 silentdecay01 wrote:
Just want to clear something up for all you people posting "blizzard should ban and know" blah blah.

Atm the current state of hacker devs, Are able to avoid "warden" (anti cheat program by blizzard) And blizzard has not had a full reverse engi team to combat the adv hacks that are being created by people who in all honestly are some of the top coders in the world.

Blizzard is still hiring people for the job to combat hackers...they been looking for sometime. Don't think you guys understand how hard it is to find someone able to defeat advanced coders and how expensive it is...only few people in the world really have the skill to do such things. Which is why blizzard trys to hit these coders/hackers with lawsuits rather then try to detect their hacks. its to expesnive to keep doing it with out making nay progresss.

Everytime Warden is updated...the hacker updates his project to avoid detection. Blizzard legaly and moraly can't just ban someone based on player say so. Yes player reports do help them out....but its very very hard to manage and decide if the person is hacking. Just some fyi.....Blizzard does not have a magical team of people who can make all hackers banned lol.

Are you having a laugh? Someone who managed to tear into existing, partially documented code like SC2's does not count among the best coders in the world. Djikstra would be rolling over in his grave. He's probably quite smart and likely college educated, but he's not a god amongst computer scientists.

The best part is that he has said that he is a programmer xD.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
IamNatural
Profile Joined November 2011
64 Posts
June 07 2012 02:04 GMT
#772
If you don;t have something nice to say, don't say anything.

People need to calm down.
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
June 07 2012 02:11 GMT
#773
On June 07 2012 11:04 IamNatural wrote:
If you don;t have something nice to say, don't say anything.

People need to calm down.

Nice is subjective, so following that logic would be rather difficult.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
PrAeToR.FeNiX
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada361 Posts
June 07 2012 02:13 GMT
#774
good job blizzard and good luck gimix!!!!!!!
En taro Adun!
celeryman
Profile Joined January 2011
United States54 Posts
June 07 2012 02:19 GMT
#775
On June 07 2012 06:38 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 04:27 silentdecay01 wrote:
Just want to clear something up for all you people posting "blizzard should ban and know" blah blah.

Atm the current state of hacker devs, Are able to avoid "warden" (anti cheat program by blizzard) And blizzard has not had a full reverse engi team to combat the adv hacks that are being created by people who in all honestly are some of the top coders in the world.

Blizzard is still hiring people for the job to combat hackers...they been looking for sometime. Don't think you guys understand how hard it is to find someone able to defeat advanced coders and how expensive it is...only few people in the world really have the skill to do such things. Which is why blizzard trys to hit these coders/hackers with lawsuits rather then try to detect their hacks. its to expesnive to keep doing it with out making nay progresss.

Everytime Warden is updated...the hacker updates his project to avoid detection. Blizzard legaly and moraly can't just ban someone based on player say so. Yes player reports do help them out....but its very very hard to manage and decide if the person is hacking. Just some fyi.....Blizzard does not have a magical team of people who can make all hackers banned lol.

From the Battle.net terms of use:
7. ACCOUNT SUSPENSION/CANCELATION. BLIZZARD MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE ACCOUNTS AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU.
http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse.html

So yes, they can legally ban you because some player said so. Stop talking out of your ass.


Which law school did you go to again?

It's not quite that simple, but in principle, you're right.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
June 07 2012 02:28 GMT
#776
well hackers will never get far. so it doesnt really matter
koecim
Profile Joined July 2011
35 Posts
June 07 2012 03:10 GMT
#777
Lesson to be learned from this?

Paying for a trip to MLG is so last year. Hack your way to a free ride.

He could show up, never reveal himself, and simply enjoy MLG as a fan.
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 04:28:37
June 07 2012 04:28 GMT
#778
On June 07 2012 11:19 celeryman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 06:38 Ercster wrote:
On June 07 2012 04:27 silentdecay01 wrote:
Just want to clear something up for all you people posting "blizzard should ban and know" blah blah.

Atm the current state of hacker devs, Are able to avoid "warden" (anti cheat program by blizzard) And blizzard has not had a full reverse engi team to combat the adv hacks that are being created by people who in all honestly are some of the top coders in the world.

Blizzard is still hiring people for the job to combat hackers...they been looking for sometime. Don't think you guys understand how hard it is to find someone able to defeat advanced coders and how expensive it is...only few people in the world really have the skill to do such things. Which is why blizzard trys to hit these coders/hackers with lawsuits rather then try to detect their hacks. its to expesnive to keep doing it with out making nay progresss.

Everytime Warden is updated...the hacker updates his project to avoid detection. Blizzard legaly and moraly can't just ban someone based on player say so. Yes player reports do help them out....but its very very hard to manage and decide if the person is hacking. Just some fyi.....Blizzard does not have a magical team of people who can make all hackers banned lol.

From the Battle.net terms of use:
7. ACCOUNT SUSPENSION/CANCELATION. BLIZZARD MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE ACCOUNTS AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU.
http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse.html

So yes, they can legally ban you because some player said so. Stop talking out of your ass.


Which law school did you go to again?

It's not quite that simple, but in principle, you're right.

It actually is quite that simple. You're using their service, and if they don't want you to use their service anymore, they remove you.

If you want to make comments like, "Which law school did you go to again?" then make your credibility known. If you have none, then shut the fuck up.

User was warned for this post
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
celeryman
Profile Joined January 2011
United States54 Posts
June 07 2012 05:41 GMT
#779
On June 07 2012 13:28 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 11:19 celeryman wrote:
On June 07 2012 06:38 Ercster wrote:
On June 07 2012 04:27 silentdecay01 wrote:
Just want to clear something up for all you people posting "blizzard should ban and know" blah blah.

Atm the current state of hacker devs, Are able to avoid "warden" (anti cheat program by blizzard) And blizzard has not had a full reverse engi team to combat the adv hacks that are being created by people who in all honestly are some of the top coders in the world.

Blizzard is still hiring people for the job to combat hackers...they been looking for sometime. Don't think you guys understand how hard it is to find someone able to defeat advanced coders and how expensive it is...only few people in the world really have the skill to do such things. Which is why blizzard trys to hit these coders/hackers with lawsuits rather then try to detect their hacks. its to expesnive to keep doing it with out making nay progresss.

Everytime Warden is updated...the hacker updates his project to avoid detection. Blizzard legaly and moraly can't just ban someone based on player say so. Yes player reports do help them out....but its very very hard to manage and decide if the person is hacking. Just some fyi.....Blizzard does not have a magical team of people who can make all hackers banned lol.

From the Battle.net terms of use:
7. ACCOUNT SUSPENSION/CANCELATION. BLIZZARD MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE ACCOUNTS AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU.
http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/termsofuse.html

So yes, they can legally ban you because some player said so. Stop talking out of your ass.


Which law school did you go to again?

It's not quite that simple, but in principle, you're right.

It actually is quite that simple. You're using their service, and if they don't want you to use their service anymore, they remove you.

If you want to make comments like, "Which law school did you go to again?" then make your credibility known. If you have none, then shut the fuck up.


Well, I agreed with you, and you didn't answer the question, and no I'm not going to say where I went to school. And I do know what I'm talking about. Don't tell me to "shut the fuck up".
RuMCaKe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States559 Posts
June 07 2012 07:50 GMT
#780
Guys, this guy has to live with himself, and actually try to be comftorable at the event. With all he has done, this will possibly be one of the worst experiences of his life, not because anyone will actually say or do anything to him, but because he will feel so out of place.
twitter.com/RuMCaKeS
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