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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On September 25 2013 04:37 bluesteel22 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 04:32 FFW_Rude wrote:On September 25 2013 04:27 bluesteel22 wrote:
The message you quoted was what i understood about his posts. Not what i think about the case...
If that is the case then I misread and apologize. Assuming that what you say is correct, HE is now the dumbass and you are no longer an arrogant dumbass but valid in your anger. Sorry. I'm not angry  damn i'm not that good with english. Let's clarify so all is good  - I understood from his posts that hackers in Teamgames where meaningless and that it was only important on 1v1 (but i could understand wrong). - So i told him that i did not get that kind of thinking because 2v2 players plays 1v1 too. So if they hack in 2v2 so probably hack in 1v1 too. - He thought i was bad to him, but that was not really what i wanted him too feel. - So i replay with the post you quoted trying to explain myself Also mind your insults with your post count if you get reported you could have trouble. Maybe dumbass is not a real insult but just strong word. Don't know I think you misunderstood me, I apologized to you. It was the person you were talking to at the time that was in the wrong. About my insults, they were unwarranted towards you, so I retracted them and admitted I was wrong. Otherwise, I say it like it is. RememberGOD is a dumbass and he deserves to be called as such. People have problems with that, doesn't change it from being true. Truth hurts but it is one of the most important things in this world.
Sorry i'm tired. I don't think we need to offtopic anymore
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On September 24 2013 19:16 Yonnua wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 22:33 Zhearsgu wrote:On September 22 2013 03:43 Yonnua wrote:On September 21 2013 01:36 Zhearsgu wrote:Nick: [VFǂ] dunamis League: Master I hope i can still apply this here even though it is team games(He is Master in 1v1 also). Played a few games with him. I noticed suspicious behavior and went back and checked. It would be greatly appreciated if I could get a second opinion on this. This is the most suspicious one http://drop.sc/360058 We do scout a SCV going into the base, but no one saw that. He never mentioned it when we asked how he knew either. He pings the map, looks over the proxy buildings (several times) tells our allies to scout there. (he does scout the corresponding place in his base also, but this could just be "to make it look good") He then starts to rally lings towards the proxy before it is scouted. Another one: http://drop.sc/360064Here he attacks a proxy pylon that is not scouted, clicking right on top of it at ~5:48. Also warns about DTs before it got scouted. Two more replays if it is needed: http://drop.sc/360059http://drop.sc/360060 I can confirm he hacks in 1v1 also. Just had a game where I built a cannon in his base and he immediately pulled all his workers to attack it even though it was out of his vision. Would you mind posting the replay of this? http://drop.sc/360394Apologies for bm.
Cant see anything suspicious that game, he scouts your forge then moves out to try to find the cannons, or did i miss something?
Would be nice if someone could look through the other replays and give their point of view.
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@Bluesteel, chill yourself bro... take it easy. I was not saying that hacking was acceptable ON ANY LEVEL, 1v1 nor teamgames. I voiced my opinion about team games and anyone can have a different opinion. Dont start attacking a flaming people, endeavor to be mature and composed with a sense respect for everyone's opinion. Its not so much the disagreeing, its HOW you disagree.
Having said that @ FFW_Rude thank you for being mature and respectful in your response.
GL and GG
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On September 25 2013 05:22 Zhearsgu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 19:16 Yonnua wrote:On September 22 2013 22:33 Zhearsgu wrote:On September 22 2013 03:43 Yonnua wrote:On September 21 2013 01:36 Zhearsgu wrote:Nick: [VFǂ] dunamis League: Master I hope i can still apply this here even though it is team games(He is Master in 1v1 also). Played a few games with him. I noticed suspicious behavior and went back and checked. It would be greatly appreciated if I could get a second opinion on this. This is the most suspicious one http://drop.sc/360058 We do scout a SCV going into the base, but no one saw that. He never mentioned it when we asked how he knew either. He pings the map, looks over the proxy buildings (several times) tells our allies to scout there. (he does scout the corresponding place in his base also, but this could just be "to make it look good") He then starts to rally lings towards the proxy before it is scouted. Another one: http://drop.sc/360064Here he attacks a proxy pylon that is not scouted, clicking right on top of it at ~5:48. Also warns about DTs before it got scouted. Two more replays if it is needed: http://drop.sc/360059http://drop.sc/360060 I can confirm he hacks in 1v1 also. Just had a game where I built a cannon in his base and he immediately pulled all his workers to attack it even though it was out of his vision. Would you mind posting the replay of this? http://drop.sc/360394Apologies for bm. Cant see anything suspicious that game, he scouts your forge then moves out to try to find the cannons, or did i miss something? Would be nice if someone could look through the other replays and give their point of view.
i'll try tomorrow. Wcs is so long tonight ^^ i want to try to contribute to this thread if i can but i have not much time and i can't be as good as nunez was;
Edit : oh this is the 3minute replay. i'll watch it in the downtime. give me a sec
Ok so...
He proxy you.
He scout the forge.
He SEE THE PROBE.
and he search for the canons. You can see he is following your probes (the one he sees) and then he sees the other one and turn back the see canon and attack.
Nothing suspicious for me.
If he was maphacking i thought he would have kill your pylon/canon before warping.
I saw other player spot this guy too so i'll try to watch the other replay tomorrow
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Hacker name: DayToDie (Protoss)
Server: NA
League: Master
Description:
Met this guy twice on ladder, besides him being very bm and losing both games to me, i think he is a maphacker (no 100% proof, make you own thoughts)
Map1: http://drop.sc/360434
http://i.imgur.com/vjT4eVn.jpg
Map1 is not super suspicious but very risky and luckbased play for a master league player.
- He did not scout at all, not even for inbase proxy.
- He went BLINDLY 4gate blink (Picture #2), what was actually not a bad choice because i went for a super fast nexus
- he never used blink to get into my mainbase. He totally could have (and i would have), but i was prepared keeping my army very defensivly
Map2: http://drop.sc/360435
http://i.imgur.com/EImNoqx.jpg
Very interesting because i went for unusual warpprism play.
- He scouted me first posi (well, 50% chance, not suspicious but again very lucky)
- He did not even scout anything besides my spawning position. He wasnt interested if i was on one or two gases, if i had a 2nd gate for early 3stalker pressure, if a mcore is building, how much chrono i saved.. Again, for a master league player this is nuts! (Picture #1)
- Now it gets interesting (Picture #2). After i used 1 ffield, he did not even try to attack again and decides to go home and let me expand freely, no contain at all (not master level gameplay!). On the minimap you can see that right the second he moves back, my warpprism just left my base. To this point he has not even seen that i have a robo.
- (Picure #3) Still no clue of me having a robo and never having seen the prism, he warped in stalkers and moved them slightly towards the incoming prism while the rest of his army is moving there too.
- I was never able to harass and never warped in units, flew a bit around with my prism to scout for hidden nexi on the map. He decides to attack again and moves to my side of the map. Just right when my prism is about to come back after being not near his base for 1minute, he randomly decides to move back to his base to defend (Picture #4), he has not seen the prism incoming yet!
(- He kills the first prism)
- He is about to attack again, BUT RANDOMLY WARPS IN UNITS TO DEFEND. Why? Maybe because i built a 2nd prism which is half way to his base, again unscouted. This is such a big point for me. When you want to attack, you dont warp in units defensivly. He had a proxy pylon and should have used it. (Picture #5)
- He killed my prism surrounding it with his army (after initially wanting to go somewhere else!) and moves towards it without really knowing where it is. This might be just luck again, but after everything else, i dont believe in his luck anymore.
- Very close game, but he lost again :> (Picture #6)
I would be happy if you would check out map2 and discuss his gameplay with me and tell me what you think.
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On September 25 2013 06:37 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 05:22 Zhearsgu wrote:On September 24 2013 19:16 Yonnua wrote:On September 22 2013 22:33 Zhearsgu wrote:On September 22 2013 03:43 Yonnua wrote:On September 21 2013 01:36 Zhearsgu wrote:Nick: [VFǂ] dunamis League: Master I hope i can still apply this here even though it is team games(He is Master in 1v1 also). Played a few games with him. I noticed suspicious behavior and went back and checked. It would be greatly appreciated if I could get a second opinion on this. This is the most suspicious one http://drop.sc/360058 We do scout a SCV going into the base, but no one saw that. He never mentioned it when we asked how he knew either. He pings the map, looks over the proxy buildings (several times) tells our allies to scout there. (he does scout the corresponding place in his base also, but this could just be "to make it look good") He then starts to rally lings towards the proxy before it is scouted. Another one: http://drop.sc/360064Here he attacks a proxy pylon that is not scouted, clicking right on top of it at ~5:48. Also warns about DTs before it got scouted. Two more replays if it is needed: http://drop.sc/360059http://drop.sc/360060 I can confirm he hacks in 1v1 also. Just had a game where I built a cannon in his base and he immediately pulled all his workers to attack it even though it was out of his vision. Would you mind posting the replay of this? http://drop.sc/360394Apologies for bm. Cant see anything suspicious that game, he scouts your forge then moves out to try to find the cannons, or did i miss something? Would be nice if someone could look through the other replays and give their point of view. i'll try tomorrow. Wcs is so long tonight ^^ i want to try to contribute to this thread if i can but i have not much time and i can't be as good as nunez was; Edit : oh this is the 3minute replay. i'll watch it in the downtime. give me a sec Ok so... He proxy you. He scout the forge. He SEE THE PROBE. and he search for the canons. You can see he is following your probes (the one he sees) and then he sees the other one and turn back the see canon and attack. Nothing suspicious for me. If he was maphacking i thought he would have kill your pylon/canon before warping. I saw other player spot this guy too so i'll try to watch the other replay tomorrow
Was asking if someone could have a look at the OTHER replays, not the 3 min one. If you go up through the nested quote to the 3 ones there.
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On September 25 2013 19:10 Zhearsgu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 06:37 FFW_Rude wrote:On September 25 2013 05:22 Zhearsgu wrote:On September 24 2013 19:16 Yonnua wrote:On September 22 2013 22:33 Zhearsgu wrote:On September 22 2013 03:43 Yonnua wrote:On September 21 2013 01:36 Zhearsgu wrote:Nick: [VFǂ] dunamis League: Master I hope i can still apply this here even though it is team games(He is Master in 1v1 also). Played a few games with him. I noticed suspicious behavior and went back and checked. It would be greatly appreciated if I could get a second opinion on this. This is the most suspicious one http://drop.sc/360058 We do scout a SCV going into the base, but no one saw that. He never mentioned it when we asked how he knew either. He pings the map, looks over the proxy buildings (several times) tells our allies to scout there. (he does scout the corresponding place in his base also, but this could just be "to make it look good") He then starts to rally lings towards the proxy before it is scouted. Another one: http://drop.sc/360064Here he attacks a proxy pylon that is not scouted, clicking right on top of it at ~5:48. Also warns about DTs before it got scouted. Two more replays if it is needed: http://drop.sc/360059http://drop.sc/360060 I can confirm he hacks in 1v1 also. Just had a game where I built a cannon in his base and he immediately pulled all his workers to attack it even though it was out of his vision. Would you mind posting the replay of this? http://drop.sc/360394Apologies for bm. Cant see anything suspicious that game, he scouts your forge then moves out to try to find the cannons, or did i miss something? Would be nice if someone could look through the other replays and give their point of view. i'll try tomorrow. Wcs is so long tonight ^^ i want to try to contribute to this thread if i can but i have not much time and i can't be as good as nunez was; Edit : oh this is the 3minute replay. i'll watch it in the downtime. give me a sec Ok so... He proxy you. He scout the forge. He SEE THE PROBE. and he search for the canons. You can see he is following your probes (the one he sees) and then he sees the other one and turn back the see canon and attack. Nothing suspicious for me. If he was maphacking i thought he would have kill your pylon/canon before warping. I saw other player spot this guy too so i'll try to watch the other replay tomorrow Was asking if someone could have a look at the OTHER replays, not the 3 min one. If you go up through the nested quote to the 3 ones there.
Sorry. Was really tired yesterday. I'll try tonight.
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Hacker name: Piggynuts
Server: AM
League: Diamond
Description: More than likely using an auto-inject hack, possibly maphacks. Reasons for assumption:
Soft evidence: Opponent auto-counters build without scouting at all, blindly makes a massive round of lings to kill my early hellions, blindly makes roach bane to counter my 3 rax hellion medivac timing, has no overlords around map to scout for drops, no sacrificial overlords, literally no creep spread. Runs lings away from watchtower as hellions approach before he even sees anything but the first two hellions.
Hard evidence: While hes microing vs my hellions, all his hatches somehow magically inject without having to move camera or select and individual queens. Too fast to be minimap inject method.
replay: http://drop.sc/360565
Oh, when I went to call him up on it after watching the replay I was blocked, even though I said nothing more that glgl and gg. Weird...
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On September 26 2013 15:44 Sajaki wrote:Hacker name: Piggynuts Server: AM League: Diamond Description: More than likely using an auto-inject hack, possibly maphacks. Reasons for assumption: Soft evidence: Opponent auto-counters build without scouting at all, blindly makes a massive round of lings to kill my early hellions, blindly makes roach bane to counter my 3 rax hellion medivac timing, has no overlords around map to scout for drops, no sacrificial overlords, literally no creep spread. Runs lings away from watchtower as hellions approach before he even sees anything but the first two hellions. Biggest tell is that while hes microing vs my lings, all his hatches somehow magically inject without having to move camera or select and individual queens. Too fast to be minimap inject method. replay: http://drop.sc/360565Oh, when I went to call him up on it after watching the replay I was blocked, even though I said nothing more that glgl and gg. Weird...
Not sure if he is maphacking, did not see any real conclusive indications of this. he scouted, did not look at your base through fow and he reacted to things like if he did not have total map vision.
However, he is definitely using auto-inject. Does not select queens when they are injecting. never miss an inject throughout the entire game.
That being said, this is a GM/Master hacker thread, not sure if this the place to post this?
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On September 26 2013 18:36 Zhearsgu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 15:44 Sajaki wrote:Hacker name: Piggynuts Server: AM League: Diamond Description: More than likely using an auto-inject hack, possibly maphacks. Reasons for assumption: Soft evidence: Opponent auto-counters build without scouting at all, blindly makes a massive round of lings to kill my early hellions, blindly makes roach bane to counter my 3 rax hellion medivac timing, has no overlords around map to scout for drops, no sacrificial overlords, literally no creep spread. Runs lings away from watchtower as hellions approach before he even sees anything but the first two hellions. Biggest tell is that while hes microing vs my lings, all his hatches somehow magically inject without having to move camera or select and individual queens. Too fast to be minimap inject method. replay: http://drop.sc/360565Oh, when I went to call him up on it after watching the replay I was blocked, even though I said nothing more that glgl and gg. Weird... Not sure if he is maphacking, did not see any real conclusive indications of this. he scouted, did not look at your base through fow and he reacted to things like if he did not have total map vision. However, he is definitely using auto-inject. Does not select queens when they are injecting. never miss an inject throughout the entire game. That being said, this is a GM/Master hacker thread, not sure if this the place to post this?
Well that's something that has been discussed a lot in here . But Diamond could get to master.. i think you can keep those lower league replay for further do (if the name pop later). But well.. GM/Master players replays would be watched first i think. BUt if you have time to watch lower replays i say why not. But now that Nunez is gone, if no one takes over this thread, it will die
You can always use this thread to search a name that you played against i think.
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this post seems very bias at the current moment, and could be coincidence, unless you post the actual replay nothing can seem suspicious, im sure you've hovered over your enemies army at some stage without realizing, but yeh replay please
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Hacker name: IIIIIIIIIIII
Replay link : http://drop.sc/360710
Server: EU
League: Diamond (smurf)
Description:
Expects the all-in without scouting, not harassing with first hellions massing them in base.
And then at 8:43 when i'm attacking, he pulls the scvs in the main before he can see the banelings coming.
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I watched the replay and this guy is definitely maphacking. It is so obvious. He has no scout and as you attack he uplifts CC and pulls scv. Also, watch his supply depot placement earlier, it makes no sense why he makes wall near main CC with depots and walls off ramp. Also, he does not move out with his hellions, he leaves them in base, which a terran player NEVER does, they always use for scout, harrass and creep denial.
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Hacker name: [NrG] Noyze
Server: AM
League: Diamond
Description:
4 player map, doesn't scout to do a 2 rax proxy next to my base and rallies to my (unscouted) expansion. The most damning piece of evidence is that he also plants the bunker before scouting the hatchery. Very obvious map hack. Watch with his vision.
Replay link: http://drop.sc/361026
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Hacker name: Still (Zerg) *since changed name to lllllllll
Server: NA
League: Platinum (Has played Master)
Description: He A-moves my probes and pylons through fog of war, not trying to hide it.
http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/us/3813744/Still/hots/1v1
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3813744/1/lllllllll/
http://drop.sc/361061
5:35 - Sends Zergling right to my hidden probe, doesn't send anything anywhere else.
6:33 - Realizes he move commanded the lings so they went out of the probes vision, he has to send them back to kill it.
11:06 - Sends lings to Probe, through fog-of-war
11:12 - Sends lings to pylon, through fog-of-war
11:15 - Checks out all my Gateways, though fog-of-war
11:41 - A-moves my other pylon, through FOW
12:04 - Goes to chase my probe but instead diverts his lings to kill a pylon going up that was out of his vision.
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On September 30 2013 07:33 Hollow wrote:Hacker name: [NrG] Noyze Server: AM League: Diamond Description: 4 player map, doesn't scout to do a 2 rax proxy next to my base and rallies to my (unscouted) expansion. The most damning piece of evidence is that he also plants the bunker before scouting the hatchery. Very obvious map hack. Watch with his vision. Replay link: http://drop.sc/361026
confirmed hacker, he dodged your dronescout
should/could be hacker, but sometimes people dislike a matchup (this is pvp) and do a 1/3rd spawning gamble.. so this is no 100% confirm
On September 30 2013 18:22 Littlesheep wrote:Hacker name: Still (Zerg) Server: NA League: Platinum (Has played Master) Description: He A-moves my probes and pylons through fog of war, not trying to hide it. http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/us/3813744/Still/hots/1v1http://drop.sc/3610615:35 - Sends Zergling right to my hidden probe, doesn't send anything anywhere else. 6:33 - Realizes he move commanded the lings so they went out of the probes vision, he has to send them back to kill it. 11:06 - Sends lings to Probe, through fog-of-war 11:12 - Sends lings to pylon, through fog-of-war 11:15 - Checks out all my Gateways, though fog-of-war 11:41 - A-moves my other pylon, through FOW 12:04 - Goes to chase my probe but instead diverts his lings to kill a pylon going up that was out of his vision.
100% maphacking
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On September 30 2013 20:12 Stoffelhase wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 07:33 Hollow wrote:Hacker name: [NrG] Noyze Server: AM League: Diamond Description: 4 player map, doesn't scout to do a 2 rax proxy next to my base and rallies to my (unscouted) expansion. The most damning piece of evidence is that he also plants the bunker before scouting the hatchery. Very obvious map hack. Watch with his vision. Replay link: http://drop.sc/361026 confirmed hacker, he dodged your dronescout
WOW, you're right he did. Missed that. Is this guy a real [NrG] member? How can he make it so blatant...
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