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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
StarcraftWonders
Profile Joined June 2012
United States59 Posts
November 10 2012 07:19 GMT
#3621
On November 08 2012 12:51 LgNKane wrote:
I dunno man, I've played Believe a few times and he's played kinda suspicious before, I've also talked to a couple pros/friends after they played him and they agree he plays suspiciously.


how is this in any way a help to the community. i don't mean to be rude but you're very immature
Stacraft Wonders
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 10:33:50
November 10 2012 10:21 GMT
#3622
And eSsEnCeS made it go GM EU, what a shame
Like rank 89. Just keep an eye out if he attends any tournaments so we can make sure he doesnt win any playhems or something like that.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
November 10 2012 13:52 GMT
#3623
On November 10 2012 16:19 StarcraftWonders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:51 LgNKane wrote:
I dunno man, I've played Believe a few times and he's played kinda suspicious before, I've also talked to a couple pros/friends after they played him and they agree he plays suspiciously.


how is this in any way a help to the community. i don't mean to be rude but you're very immature



Lol, what? Pointing out that several very high level players have agreed that they have suspicions is at least something - better than knee jerk defenses that random small time posters like you have come up with.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
November 10 2012 15:42 GMT
#3624
On November 10 2012 22:52 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 16:19 StarcraftWonders wrote:
On November 08 2012 12:51 LgNKane wrote:
I dunno man, I've played Believe a few times and he's played kinda suspicious before, I've also talked to a couple pros/friends after they played him and they agree he plays suspiciously.


how is this in any way a help to the community. i don't mean to be rude but you're very immature



Lol, what? Pointing out that several very high level players have agreed that they have suspicions is at least something - better than knee jerk defenses that random small time posters like you have come up with.


is the believe we are talking about lagttbelieve? if it is, i didnt see anything suspicious from my game i had with him yesterday, besides that he was butthurt over losing =/
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 15:50:18
November 10 2012 15:49 GMT
#3625
On November 11 2012 00:42 KiF1rE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 22:52 Zennith wrote:
On November 10 2012 16:19 StarcraftWonders wrote:
On November 08 2012 12:51 LgNKane wrote:
I dunno man, I've played Believe a few times and he's played kinda suspicious before, I've also talked to a couple pros/friends after they played him and they agree he plays suspiciously.


how is this in any way a help to the community. i don't mean to be rude but you're very immature



Lol, what? Pointing out that several very high level players have agreed that they have suspicions is at least something - better than knee jerk defenses that random small time posters like you have come up with.


is the believe we are talking about lagttbelieve? if it is, i didnt see anything suspicious from my game i had with him yesterday, besides that he was butthurt over losing =/



Yep.

I glanced at the replay quickly, and there may have been a little bit of suspicious activity. Not enough at all to confirm. I'm just saying that the guy calling Kane immature (which may or may not be true) is a little bit like the Pot calling the Kettle black.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
ReMiiX
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States338 Posts
November 11 2012 01:18 GMT
#3626
I know he is pretty much as confirmed as possible but I have another replay vs the maphacker JustinBeiber.

http://drop.sc/274120

@7:20 without ever scouting, pulls all of his probes from his natural to his main in order to get away from my marine scv army.
@14:40 forcefields ramp without seeing my army


While this is only two points from the game, it is important to note that he literally never scouted at all; yet he knew what I was doing, when I was attacking, what I was attacking with, where I was attacking, and where I spawned. All without ever making an observer or scouting.
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LaG.Gaming
Profile Joined April 2011
United States288 Posts
November 11 2012 03:44 GMT
#3627
LaGTTBelieve might be bm ( not gonna defend him about this) but he is not a map hacker, he been doing alot of proxy gates and fast techs just to get to gm with his new account, he was blinding doing alot of techs just to finish games fast.

LaGTTLizarD here btw.
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Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
November 11 2012 03:47 GMT
#3628
On November 11 2012 12:44 LaG.Gaming wrote:
LaGTTBelieve might be bm ( not gonna defend him about this) but he is not a map hacker, he been doing alot of proxy gates and fast techs just to get to gm with his new account, he was blinding doing alot of techs just to finish games fast.

LaGTTLizarD here btw.



Fair enough. I found replays I could and didn't see anything that could come close to confirming him. I don't personally feel like we should drag his name through the mud unless someone can.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
Candide
Profile Joined November 2010
456 Posts
November 11 2012 04:04 GMT
#3629
On November 11 2012 12:47 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 12:44 LaG.Gaming wrote:
LaGTTBelieve might be bm ( not gonna defend him about this) but he is not a map hacker, he been doing alot of proxy gates and fast techs just to get to gm with his new account, he was blinding doing alot of techs just to finish games fast.

LaGTTLizarD here btw.



Fair enough. I found replays I could and didn't see anything that could come close to confirming him. I don't personally feel like we should drag his name through the mud unless someone can.



Played him in a clanwar for URTL, definitely didn't see anything too suspicious, i'll vouch for Lizard
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
November 11 2012 04:15 GMT
#3630
On November 10 2012 13:56 Kaitokid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 12:05 Buffy wrote:
On November 10 2012 11:37 Crushgroove wrote:
I figure this is a good place to ask the community about this...

I hate hackers as much as the rest of the community. The beauty of the game is the test of skill in an environment where you get incomplete information. I love seeing a gas or a techlab and just guessing... saccing an overlord from both sides, seeing nothing but a marauder before they're both killed and making a judgment call on that. I think its a frustrating and awesome element of RTS.

Three DIFFERENT times today, just before the 'gg', my oponents have called me a hacker. One was after a decently long macro ZvT on daybreak, which I won with 3/3 ling/bling/infestor/ultra. The opponent, who played pretty well with the exception of letting me kill his dropships, said "The fact that you maphack and it still took you this long to beat me is f*cking pathetic" and left the game.

I've watched the rep twice, once from his perspective, once from mine, and while I did get a lucky army positioning once in the mid-game... I don't see anything that could be contstrued as unfair awareness in the rest of the game.

Long story short, I just don't understand why people tend to cry wolf so much. Is hacking really widespread enough that everyone wants to believe they can't lose a game unless the opponent cheats?

I just wish people would say things like "gg" or even "how'd you know to make mutas?" or something, instead of insulting the other player with accusations of cheating. I'm not even top 8 diamond... I lose very, very frequently. Let me enjoy my wins.

That seem to be a problem more isloated to Na then EU, terms of crying wolf. Pretty no time except 1 time during 2 month period 4-10 hours of playing have someone called me a maphacker. Only one who has done it so far is Logicc, ironic seeing as how he hacks and admits to it.

Anyhow, just wanted to point out I have not noticed much of crying wolf on EU.


I play on eu and have the same experiences except that even Logicc always gg's :D been a while since I played him though
btw are you prOpBuffy?

Yes I am : )
Yes I am
Kisezik
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia70 Posts
November 11 2012 09:07 GMT
#3631
Protogg GM protoss, maphacker.. map was taldarim, blind cross scout into triple pylon cannon without even scouting if there was a base there..., proceeds to lose the game xD

http://drop.sc/274315
JahBeeToe
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines8 Posts
November 11 2012 11:03 GMT
#3632
Whiteluxury
SEA
GM Rank 1

Replay: http://drop.sc/274334

He doesn't scout and reacts perfectly to everything. He looks through the fog too to catch my first banshee. And pre mature reaction to 2nd banshee. Please report and get this person banned. Thanks.
omgwtfbbqpewpewpew
Orpheusz
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia210 Posts
November 11 2012 13:51 GMT
#3633
On November 11 2012 18:07 Kisezik wrote:
Protogg GM protoss, maphacker.. map was taldarim, blind cross scout into triple pylon cannon without even scouting if there was a base there..., proceeds to lose the game xD

http://drop.sc/274315


Just vsed his zerg twice, can 100% confirm this. Don't have reps on this comp but he blindly drone pulls vs my cannon rush (which he had no vision of) and then makes perfect amount of units vs my immortal allin the moment he "sees" my gates go down. Generally had terrible scouting across the entire game.
ShamW0W
Profile Joined March 2010
160 Posts
November 11 2012 16:27 GMT
#3634
Saw suspicious behavior playing against "OnTheThrone", checked this thread, and he's already confirmed.

Wish Blizzard would get rid of people like that.
Half-Man Half-Amazing
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
November 11 2012 16:32 GMT
#3635
On November 12 2012 01:27 ShamW0W wrote:
Saw suspicious behavior playing against "OnTheThrone", checked this thread, and he's already confirmed.

Wish Blizzard would get rid of people like that.


yeah the guy is a d-bag. so blatant.
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BuGOuT
Profile Joined February 2011
United States22 Posts
November 12 2012 03:12 GMT
#3636
NewChelsea is a maphacker on NA. Never scouted on a 4 player map, attacked towards me without scouting what I was doing or where I was with a perfect counter to my early expand
replay : http://drop.sc/274610
What's under there?
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
November 12 2012 03:56 GMT
#3637
On November 11 2012 12:44 LaG.Gaming wrote:
LaGTTBelieve might be bm ( not gonna defend him about this) but he is not a map hacker, he been doing alot of proxy gates and fast techs just to get to gm with his new account, he was blinding doing alot of techs just to finish games fast.

LaGTTLizarD here btw.


I ran into him a few times on the ladder as well. Nothing suspicious, not even bm from what I've seen.

He also played in one of the WCG Canada qualifiers, which was a LAN, but this is indirect evidence.
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
Xtkq
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada14 Posts
November 12 2012 08:28 GMT
#3638
http://drop.sc/274693
RAZORRAMON

the replay is self explanatory
pulls probe without scouting for forge
proxy 2gate across map with 0 vision
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
November 12 2012 08:30 GMT
#3639
On November 12 2012 17:28 Xtkq wrote:
http://drop.sc/274693
RAZORRAMON

the replay is self explanatory
pulls probe without scouting for forge
proxy 2gate across map with 0 vision


That is a baller ass name.
Shin_Gouki
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
November 12 2012 08:59 GMT
#3640
My boy just went against RAZORRAMON on NA server.

http://drop.sc/274694

If you read the text alone, you'll have a laugh.
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