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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 12:58:59
November 08 2012 05:03 GMT
#3601
edit: that got shut down. in hindsight the replay wasn't really much to go off. believe saw zerg stay on one base and go lair. the 2 stalkers walking towards nydus location was a bit weird, but maybe he caught sight of the overseer on the edge of his vision? not sure.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
November 08 2012 12:03 GMT
#3602
Guys don't randomly throw around accusations please. Take your time to look at the replay and make a case, if possible get more replays.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
November 08 2012 23:30 GMT
#3603
well first game cannon rushing in over 2 weeks...

This mike guy asks, is that all I do? and puts down to block on antiga, entirely blind....
http://drop.sc/273460

im not sure if you can get any more blatant that he knew without seeing anything =/
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
November 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#3604
On November 09 2012 08:30 KiF1rE wrote:
well first game cannon rushing in over 2 weeks...

This mike guy asks, is that all I do? and puts down to block on antiga, entirely blind....
http://drop.sc/273460

im not sure if you can get any more blatant that he knew without seeing anything =/


41-49....I don't think he hacks if he has that kind of record
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
November 09 2012 00:07 GMT
#3605
On November 09 2012 08:46 .kv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 08:30 KiF1rE wrote:
well first game cannon rushing in over 2 weeks...

This mike guy asks, is that all I do? and puts down to block on antiga, entirely blind....
http://drop.sc/273460

im not sure if you can get any more blatant that he knew without seeing anything =/


41-49....I don't think he hacks if he has that kind of record


it is a sad record but watch the replay and laugh, he calls me out while my probes are scouting and he sees absolutely nothing lol...
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
November 09 2012 00:12 GMT
#3606
he was getting gas then canceled it....i dont think if he was hacking he would've done that

seems fishy but i dont think he hacked...just the gas cancel kinda brought me to that conclusion
QzYSc2
Profile Joined June 2012
Netherlands281 Posts
November 09 2012 00:13 GMT
#3607
surely you didn't cannon rush him the game before?
Gof
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 00:25:06
November 09 2012 00:23 GMT
#3608
[Confirmed on 10/08/2012] Hacker name : Loogicc
Server:EU
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3165639/1/Loogicc/
Description : Maphack

Back with a new account on NA.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3934278/1/IlIllIllIllI/
Admits to it in post #1509 in this thread: http://www.fragbite.se/?threadID=1090408
Translation: Im rank 1 GM. Difficult? nope
Screenshot, just incase he deletes it: http://i.imgur.com/tf33C.png
The screenshot he posted (imgur mirror, incase he deletes it): http://i.imgur.com/IT7yY.jpg

His third account on this list is WiNDOW btw. ^_^
Celadan
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 07:44:29
November 09 2012 07:42 GMT
#3609
Hacker name: ReDz

Description: Maphacker

http://drop.sc/273577
Heres a 1v1 rep to further legitimize the claim of his maphacks
He is a high master protoss, got that rank so undeserving

EDIT: NA server
спеціальна Тактика
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
November 09 2012 19:48 GMT
#3610
oGsMC

http://drop.sc/273692

Proxy 2 gate on Tal'darim blind. Calls GG before even attacking. Not sure if lucky, or if he was joking when he said he used mh, maybe others can confirm if they play him. But i'd add him to the list.
Bombs
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil20 Posts
November 10 2012 02:09 GMT
#3611
Hacker name: |FK|DakkoN
Server: NA
League: Master, Rank 2


Replay 1: Dakkon vs Danny http://drop.sc/273322

What to look for:

- 3:09 Danny starts a bunker in Dakkon natural.

- 3:19 Dakkon with NO VISION, sends 2 drones to stop the bunker.

- 5:25 Dakkon starts his third, no vision in the map, no overlords spoting gas or anything.

- 6:20 Danny controls the xel naga tower, denying any map control from Dakkon, Dakkon with no overlords in the map for scouting and information. (And he also didn't scouted with an overlord, or overseer to look for Bio/Mech play).

- 8:00 Dakkon makes 1 spore crawler in each base after he sees 2 hellions, but the point is that as said before no overlord, no poke with lings for information by Dakkon.

- 10:22 After 4 minutes of pure dronning in the dark, the zerg player decides to get control of the xel naga tower.

- 11:41 Dakkon finally makes his first scout in the game, doing a runby on the third of Danny.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Replay 2 Dakkon vs Filho http://drop.sc/273325

What to look for:

- 11:00 Filho goes through the side to start the aggression

- 11:29 Dakkon has no vision of Filho's army, and then randomly sends 12 roaches to Filho base and keeps the remaining roaches at the center of the map at the xel naga tower (?)

- 12:52 Dakkon not even use the xel naga tower to control the map, simply forms a big concave exactly from the position that Filho is coming from and sets the rally point as it seems he knew it was coming from, because rallying there makes no sense.






"If we don't end wars, wars will end us" - H.G. Wells
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
November 10 2012 02:11 GMT
#3612
On November 10 2012 11:09 Bombs wrote:
Hacker name: |FK|DakkoN
Server: NA
League: Master, Rank 2


Replay 1: Dakkon vs Danny http://drop.sc/273322

What to look for:

- 3:09 Danny starts a bunker in Dakkon natural.

- 3:19 Dakkon with NO VISION, sends 2 drones to stop the bunker.

- 5:25 Dakkon starts his third, no vision in the map, no overlords spoting gas or anything.

- 6:20 Danny controls the xel naga tower, denying any map control from Dakkon, Dakkon with no overlords in the map for scouting and information. (And he also didn't scouted with an overlord, or overseer to look for Bio/Mech play).

- 8:00 Dakkon makes 1 spore crawler in each base after he sees 2 hellions, but the point is that as said before no overlord, no poke with lings for information by Dakkon.

- 10:22 After 4 minutes of pure dronning in the dark, the zerg player decides to get control of the xel naga tower.

- 11:41 Dakkon finally makes his first scout in the game, doing a runby on the third of Danny.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Replay 2 Dakkon vs Filho http://drop.sc/273325

What to look for:

- 11:00 Filho goes through the side to start the aggression

- 11:29 Dakkon has no vision of Filho's army, and then randomly sends 12 roaches to Filho base and keeps the remaining roaches at the center of the map at the xel naga tower (?)

- 12:52 Dakkon not even use the xel naga tower to control the map, simply forms a big concave exactly from the position that Filho is coming from and sets the rally point as it seems he knew it was coming from, because rallying there makes no sense.








Isn't Dakkon that famous Brazilian player? Who also played BW back in the days?
http://twitter.com/PiQLiQ
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 02:20:04
November 10 2012 02:18 GMT
#3613
Yes he is.
The big problem is that brazilian community has so low level of gaming understanding and DakkoN simply deceives most of the people from brazil by making fake analysis about the map hacking accusations and shit.
oo
Bombs
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil20 Posts
November 10 2012 02:19 GMT
#3614
On November 10 2012 11:11 PiQLiQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 11:09 Bombs wrote:
Hacker name: |FK|DakkoN
Server: NA
League: Master, Rank 2


Replay 1: Dakkon vs Danny http://drop.sc/273322

What to look for:

- 3:09 Danny starts a bunker in Dakkon natural.

- 3:19 Dakkon with NO VISION, sends 2 drones to stop the bunker.

- 5:25 Dakkon starts his third, no vision in the map, no overlords spoting gas or anything.

- 6:20 Danny controls the xel naga tower, denying any map control from Dakkon, Dakkon with no overlords in the map for scouting and information. (And he also didn't scouted with an overlord, or overseer to look for Bio/Mech play).

- 8:00 Dakkon makes 1 spore crawler in each base after he sees 2 hellions, but the point is that as said before no overlord, no poke with lings for information by Dakkon.

- 10:22 After 4 minutes of pure dronning in the dark, the zerg player decides to get control of the xel naga tower.

- 11:41 Dakkon finally makes his first scout in the game, doing a runby on the third of Danny.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Replay 2 Dakkon vs Filho http://drop.sc/273325

What to look for:

- 11:00 Filho goes through the side to start the aggression

- 11:29 Dakkon has no vision of Filho's army, and then randomly sends 12 roaches to Filho base and keeps the remaining roaches at the center of the map at the xel naga tower (?)

- 12:52 Dakkon not even use the xel naga tower to control the map, simply forms a big concave exactly from the position that Filho is coming from and sets the rally point as it seems he knew it was coming from, because rallying there makes no sense.








Isn't Dakkon that famous Brazilian player? Who also played BW back in the days?


Yes, few people have confirmed that he also did use MH in BW. If necessary i can provide more replays, many more because all of sudden he been winning all tournaments and many people have been discussing and distrusting about it.
"If we don't end wars, wars will end us" - H.G. Wells
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 02:38:08
November 10 2012 02:37 GMT
#3615
I figure this is a good place to ask the community about this...

I hate hackers as much as the rest of the community. The beauty of the game is the test of skill in an environment where you get incomplete information. I love seeing a gas or a techlab and just guessing... saccing an overlord from both sides, seeing nothing but a marauder before they're both killed and making a judgment call on that. I think its a frustrating and awesome element of RTS.

Three DIFFERENT times today, just before the 'gg', my oponents have called me a hacker. One was after a decently long macro ZvT on daybreak, which I won with 3/3 ling/bling/infestor/ultra. The opponent, who played pretty well with the exception of letting me kill his dropships, said "The fact that you maphack and it still took you this long to beat me is f*cking pathetic" and left the game.

I've watched the rep twice, once from his perspective, once from mine, and while I did get a lucky army positioning once in the mid-game... I don't see anything that could be contstrued as unfair awareness in the rest of the game.

Long story short, I just don't understand why people tend to cry wolf so much. Is hacking really widespread enough that everyone wants to believe they can't lose a game unless the opponent cheats?

I just wish people would say things like "gg" or even "how'd you know to make mutas?" or something, instead of insulting the other player with accusations of cheating. I'm not even top 8 diamond... I lose very, very frequently. Let me enjoy my wins.
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
BeholdOblivion
Profile Joined May 2012
United States72 Posts
November 10 2012 02:43 GMT
#3616
On November 10 2012 11:37 Crushgroove wrote:
I figure this is a good place to ask the community about this...

I hate hackers as much as the rest of the community. The beauty of the game is the test of skill in an environment where you get incomplete information. I love seeing a gas or a techlab and just guessing... saccing an overlord from both sides, seeing nothing but a marauder before they're both killed and making a judgment call on that. I think its a frustrating and awesome element of RTS.

Three DIFFERENT times today, just before the 'gg', my oponents have called me a hacker. One was after a decently long macro ZvT on daybreak, which I won with 3/3 ling/bling/infestor/ultra. The opponent, who played pretty well with the exception of letting me kill his dropships, said "The fact that you maphack and it still took you this long to beat me is f*cking pathetic" and left the game.

I've watched the rep twice, once from his perspective, once from mine, and while I did get a lucky army positioning once in the mid-game... I don't see anything that could be contstrued as unfair awareness in the rest of the game.

Long story short, I just don't understand why people tend to cry wolf so much. Is hacking really widespread enough that everyone wants to believe they can't lose a game unless the opponent cheats?

I just wish people would say things like "gg" or even "how'd you know to make mutas?" or something, instead of insulting the other player with accusations of cheating. I'm not even top 8 diamond... I lose very, very frequently. Let me enjoy my wins.



The sad part is, it really has gotten so out of hand that it's not a surprise that people are jumping the gun on accusing others. I've periodically checked up on this thread to read all the stories, but it's actually very sad that Zwei has literally become overwhelmed by the sheer number of people who cheat.
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
November 10 2012 02:53 GMT
#3617
Dakkon -- I played him a long time ago, like 3-4 seasons ago, and I thought he was hacking that game. He showed me a stream link, but even watching the replay the shit seemed so fishy.

Gonna watch those reps
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
November 10 2012 03:05 GMT
#3618
On November 10 2012 11:37 Crushgroove wrote:
I figure this is a good place to ask the community about this...

I hate hackers as much as the rest of the community. The beauty of the game is the test of skill in an environment where you get incomplete information. I love seeing a gas or a techlab and just guessing... saccing an overlord from both sides, seeing nothing but a marauder before they're both killed and making a judgment call on that. I think its a frustrating and awesome element of RTS.

Three DIFFERENT times today, just before the 'gg', my oponents have called me a hacker. One was after a decently long macro ZvT on daybreak, which I won with 3/3 ling/bling/infestor/ultra. The opponent, who played pretty well with the exception of letting me kill his dropships, said "The fact that you maphack and it still took you this long to beat me is f*cking pathetic" and left the game.

I've watched the rep twice, once from his perspective, once from mine, and while I did get a lucky army positioning once in the mid-game... I don't see anything that could be contstrued as unfair awareness in the rest of the game.

Long story short, I just don't understand why people tend to cry wolf so much. Is hacking really widespread enough that everyone wants to believe they can't lose a game unless the opponent cheats?

I just wish people would say things like "gg" or even "how'd you know to make mutas?" or something, instead of insulting the other player with accusations of cheating. I'm not even top 8 diamond... I lose very, very frequently. Let me enjoy my wins.

That seem to be a problem more isloated to Na then EU, terms of crying wolf. Pretty no time except 1 time during 2 month period 4-10 hours of playing have someone called me a maphacker. Only one who has done it so far is Logicc, ironic seeing as how he hacks and admits to it.

Anyhow, just wanted to point out I have not noticed much of crying wolf on EU.
Yes I am
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
November 10 2012 04:48 GMT
#3619
On November 10 2012 12:05 Buffy wrote:
nly one who has done it so far is Logicc, ironic seeing as how he hacks and admits to it.


yes, funny how that works.

i think i've only been accused once in my illustrious career on EU.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
November 10 2012 04:56 GMT
#3620
On November 10 2012 12:05 Buffy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 11:37 Crushgroove wrote:
I figure this is a good place to ask the community about this...

I hate hackers as much as the rest of the community. The beauty of the game is the test of skill in an environment where you get incomplete information. I love seeing a gas or a techlab and just guessing... saccing an overlord from both sides, seeing nothing but a marauder before they're both killed and making a judgment call on that. I think its a frustrating and awesome element of RTS.

Three DIFFERENT times today, just before the 'gg', my oponents have called me a hacker. One was after a decently long macro ZvT on daybreak, which I won with 3/3 ling/bling/infestor/ultra. The opponent, who played pretty well with the exception of letting me kill his dropships, said "The fact that you maphack and it still took you this long to beat me is f*cking pathetic" and left the game.

I've watched the rep twice, once from his perspective, once from mine, and while I did get a lucky army positioning once in the mid-game... I don't see anything that could be contstrued as unfair awareness in the rest of the game.

Long story short, I just don't understand why people tend to cry wolf so much. Is hacking really widespread enough that everyone wants to believe they can't lose a game unless the opponent cheats?

I just wish people would say things like "gg" or even "how'd you know to make mutas?" or something, instead of insulting the other player with accusations of cheating. I'm not even top 8 diamond... I lose very, very frequently. Let me enjoy my wins.

That seem to be a problem more isloated to Na then EU, terms of crying wolf. Pretty no time except 1 time during 2 month period 4-10 hours of playing have someone called me a maphacker. Only one who has done it so far is Logicc, ironic seeing as how he hacks and admits to it.

Anyhow, just wanted to point out I have not noticed much of crying wolf on EU.


I play on eu and have the same experiences except that even Logicc always gg's :D been a while since I played him though
btw are you prOpBuffy?
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