GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating th…

On November 09 2012 08:30 KiF1rE wrote:
well first game cannon rushing in over 2 weeks...

This mike guy asks, is that all I do? and puts down to block on antiga, entirely blind....
http://drop.sc/273460

im not sure if you can get any more blatant that he knew without seeing anything =/

On November 09 2012 08:46 .kv wrote:


41-49....I don't think he hacks if he has that kind of record

On November 10 2012 11:09 Bombs wrote:
Hacker name: |FK|DakkoN
Server: NA
League: Master, Rank 2

Replay 1: Dakkon vs Danny http://drop.sc/273322

What to look for:

- 3:09 Danny starts a bunker in Dakkon natural.

- 3:19 Dakkon with NO VISION, sends 2 drones to stop the bunker.

- 5:25 Dakkon starts his third, no vision in the map, no overlords spoting gas or anything.

- 6:20 Danny controls the xel naga tower, denying any map control from Dakkon, Dakkon with no overlords in the map for scouting and information. (And he also didn't scouted with an overlord, or overseer to look for Bio/Mech play).

- 8:00 Dakkon makes 1 spore crawler in each base after he sees 2 hellions, but the point is that as said before no overlord, no poke with lings for information by Dakkon.

- 10:22 After 4 minutes of pure dronning in the dark, the zerg player decides to get control of the xel naga tower.

- 11:41 Dakkon finally makes his first scout in the game, doing a runby on the third of Danny.

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Replay 2 Dakkon vs Filho http://drop.sc/273325

What to look for:

- 11:00 Filho goes through the side to start the aggression

- 11:29 Dakkon has no vision of Filho's army, and then randomly sends 12 roaches to Filho base and keeps the remaining roaches at the center of the map at the xel naga tower (?)

- 12:52 Dakkon not even use the xel naga tower to control the map, simply forms a big concave exactly from the position that Filho is coming from and sets the rally point as it seems he knew it was coming from, because rallying there makes no sense.

On November 10 2012 11:11 PiQLiQ wrote:


Isn't Dakkon that famous Brazilian player? Who also played BW back in the days?

On November 10 2012 11:37 Crushgroove wrote:
I figure this is a good place to ask the community about this...

I hate hackers as much as the rest of the community. The beauty of the game is the test of skill in an environment where you get incomplete information. I love seeing a gas or a techlab and just guessing... saccing an overlord from both sides, seeing nothing but a marauder before they're both killed and making a judgment call on that. I think its a frustrating and awesome element of RTS.

Three DIFFERENT times today, just before the 'gg', my oponents have called me a hacker. One was after a decently long macro ZvT on daybreak, which I won with 3/3 ling/bling/infestor/ultra. The opponent, who played pretty well with the exception of letting me kill his dropships, said "The fact that you maphack and it still took you this long to beat me is f*cking pathetic" and left the game.

I've watched the rep twice, once from his perspective, once from mine, and while I did get a lucky army positioning once in the mid-game... I don't see anything that could be contstrued as unfair awareness in the rest of the game.

Long story short, I just don't understand why people tend to cry wolf so much. Is hacking really widespread enough that everyone wants to believe they can't lose a game unless the opponent cheats?

I just wish people would say things like "gg" or even "how'd you know to make mutas?" or something, instead of insulting the other player with accusations of cheating. I'm not even top 8 diamond... I lose very, very frequently. Let me enjoy my wins.

On November 10 2012 11:37 Crushgroove wrote:
I figure this is a good place to ask the community about this...

I hate hackers as much as the rest of the community. The beauty of the game is the test of skill in an environment where you get incomplete information. I love seeing a gas or a techlab and just guessing... saccing an overlord from both sides, seeing nothing but a marauder before they're both killed and making a judgment call on that. I think its a frustrating and awesome element of RTS.

Three DIFFERENT times today, just before the 'gg', my oponents have called me a hacker. One was after a decently long macro ZvT on daybreak, which I won with 3/3 ling/bling/infestor/ultra. The opponent, who played pretty well with the exception of letting me kill his dropships, said "The fact that you maphack and it still took you this long to beat me is f*cking pathetic" and left the game.

I've watched the rep twice, once from his perspective, once from mine, and while I did get a lucky army positioning once in the mid-game... I don't see anything that could be contstrued as unfair awareness in the rest of the game.

Long story short, I just don't understand why people tend to cry wolf so much. Is hacking really widespread enough that everyone wants to believe they can't lose a game unless the opponent cheats?

I just wish people would say things like "gg" or even "how'd you know to make mutas?" or something, instead of insulting the other player with accusations of cheating. I'm not even top 8 diamond... I lose very, very frequently. Let me enjoy my wins.

On November 10 2012 12:05 Buffy wrote:
nly one who has done it so far is Logicc, ironic seeing as how he hacks and admits to it.

On November 10 2012 12:05 Buffy wrote:

That seem to be a problem more isloated to Na then EU, terms of crying wolf. Pretty no time except 1 time during 2 month period 4-10 hours of playing have someone called me a maphacker. Only one who has done it so far is Logicc, ironic seeing as how he hacks and admits to it.

Anyhow, just wanted to point out I have not noticed much of crying wolf on EU.