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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
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nBk
174 Posts
On September 03 2012 15:20 ZwuckeL wrote: heisenberg here on TL http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=stillborn proof: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139545¤tpage=76#1511 edit: might be another heisenberg? The one on that page is a different account. Hacker: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3078167/1/Heisenberg/ The one you're showing: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/de/profile/244089/1/Heisenberg/ EDIT: On September 03 2012 15:41 Erik.TheRed wrote: Here are a couple more theory replays for reference. Haven't analyzed them in-depth myself but he did a 2 gate proxy outside of my main on shak. Not sure about the auto-probe thing though, looks like the nexus is being selected normally early on. http://drop.sc/246724 http://drop.sc/246725 1st/2nd replays reviewed: + Show Spoiler + On September 02 2012 07:44 nBk wrote: Hacker: Theory http://drop.sc/246287 http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3590123/1/Theory/ Rank 13 Master (and climbing,) NA server I'd also like to note his nexus builds probes by itself (it was never selected to actually build a probe, only a few times did he actually select it) You can see this happen multiple times during the game. And you can also see where he pauses to stop the automatic production. Notable times for auto-made probes (most of the time he isn't even looking at base, nor used hotkey): 3:38 - probe starts by itself 3:56 - probe starts by itself 4:13 - probe starts by itself 4:30 - probe starts by itself but it makes him supply blocked 5:01 - probe starts by itself 5:20 - probe starts by itself 5:37 - probe starts by itself 5:54 - probe starts by itself 6:11 - probe starts by itself 6:20 - turns auto-made probes off 6:20 - production ceases 7:03 - probe starts by itself 7:15 - turns it off again 8:29 - probe starts by itself 9:03 - probe starts by itself 9:38 - probe starts by itself but supply blocked again 10:27 - probe starts by itself 10:45 - turns it off 12:24 - probe at main, AND at natural base starts by itself 12:36 - probe at main, AND at natural base starts by itself 12:52 - probe at main, AND at natural base starts by itself 13:09 - probe at natural starts by itself 13:11 - probe at main starts by itself 13:29 - turns it off (can see when he does this every time) Notable times for map hacks: 0:28 - sends probe to your natural (hasn't scouted your base) 1:04 - builds pylon outside your base on the low ground 1:08 - looks through fog of war at your base 1:14 - looks through fog at your base again 1:26 - leads probe along the inside of your base (still hasn't actually revealed your there yet) 1:38 - starts proxy gate inside your base (still hasn't scouted to know you're there) 1:38 - also note: from his point of view atm he can see your base from where his camera is through fog of war + your probe 2:48 - looking at your base+minerals through fog of war 3:09 - looks at your base through fog of war and sees you pulling probes 5:22 - looks through fog of war at your probes (nice hold off of 1 gate btw) 8:01 - looks through fog of war at your base at the probe your moving qued to make another gate 11:33 - slowly slides camera by your base looking through fog of war 11:43 - looks at your obs (without vision of it) EDIT: Hacker: Theory http://drop.sc/243383 http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3590123/1/Theory/ Rank 13 Master (and climbing,) NA server Auto made probes: 0:56 - probe starts by itself 4:02 - probe starts by itself 4:18 - probe starts by itself 4:35 - probe starts by itself 4:52 - probe starts by itself 5:10 - probe starts by itself 5:26 - probe starts by itself 5:44 - probe starts by itself - gets supply blocked for leaving it on and not paying attention 6:44 - probe starts by itself 8:05 - probe starts by itself 9:57 - probe starts by itself 14:28 - probe starts by itself 14:32 - probe starts by itself at his natural expo I'm sure there is more of it throughout the game but i stopped here, pretty obvious. Map hacks: 1:53 - waits for probe to pass by to start his 2nd gateway (no vision of probe) 3:10 - looks through fog of war at base 5:07 - reacts to probes+zealots about to come down ramp out of vision 6:17 - sees through fog of war the position of enemy units and clicks away from them 8:25 - reacts to zealots coming down ramp (not in vision) and runs his zealots away 11:57 - looks through fog of war and sees where enemy stalkers are and clicks his stalkers by them instead of going where he was originally going (near mineral line) 12:22 - ques pylon at opponents natural, then changes his mind and ques elsewhere (since he seen the stalkers was exactly where he que'd) 13:13 - looks through fog of war at stalkers at nat. ramp 14:35 - looks through fog of war at proxy pylon he never scouted and clicks units to it 20:29 - looks around opponents base through fog of war Blink hack: 17:53 - one stalker blinks back, but he never selected 1 to blink 17:56 - one stalker blinks back, but he never selected 1 to blink 18:03 - one stalker blinks back, but he never selected 1 to blink 18:08 - one stalker blinks back, but he never selected 1 to blink 18:11 - one stalker blinks back, but he never selected 1 to blink (can see he had immortal selected) 18:12 - one stalker blinks back, but he never selected 1 to blink (immortal still selected) 18:33 - one stalker blinks back, but he never selected 1 to blink (also wasn't focused on screen) 18:40 - one stalker blinks back, but he never selected 1 to blink (also again, wasn't looking) Comfortable to say by judging from these replays this guy is a hacker (a shitty one at that.) My times might be off by 1-2 seconds tops on a few of them considering i haven't had much sleep due to work, sorry. Two more replays i haven't looked through yet: http://drop.sc/239672 http://drop.sc/230243 3rd replay reviewed: + Show Spoiler + Another replay to add for Theory: Hacker: Theory http://drop.sc/246435 http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3590123/1/Theory/ Rank 17 Master (dropped 4 spots since last night,) NA server Auto-made probes: 6:14 - probe starts by itself 6:43 - probe starts by itself 7:31 - probe starts by itself 7:43 - probe starts by itself 8:00 - probe starts by itself 8:05 - probe starts by itself at natural Stopped here because the rest should be pretty obvious and i don't wanna sit through the replay twice to note it all. And you can see all three nexus auto making probes at 15mins+ without him even touching the nexi. Map Hacks: 4:51 - reacts to scv about to go up his ramp through fog of war 10:11 - reacts to drop going to his base and pulls units back to main 10:16 - reacts to marines (3) not in vision coming up his natural ramp (he figures easy kill units) 10:25 - reacts to drop at natural he has no vision of and sends units to it (look at his view then back at everyone) 11:29 - reacts to drop at his main that he has no vision of yet 11:31 - looks through fog of war at medivac 2 more replays to add for Theory: http://drop.sc/246724 Notes: 0:03 - hack auto splits workers, sets rally, selects nexus and starts first probe in less than 1 second (i'm sure it's on the other replays but i only recently noticed this after reviewing the last guy and his hacks) 0:13 - sends probe to his base 2:24 - looks through fog of war at base and rallys 2 proxied gateways to it 3:14 - looks through fog at zealot coming 2:23 - looking through fog 3:31 - probe starts by itself at nexus 3:42 - looking through fog at 2 zealots 3:47 - probe starts by itself 4:04 - probe starts by itself blah blah same crap. -Would also like to note probes auto-que in this one as well while one is building. (so he changed a setting or something, it's not the same as the last replays, sorry Theory! try again) http://drop.sc/246725 2 player map so cross position 0:03 - hack auto splits workers, sets rally, selects nexus and starts first probe in less than 1 second 2:18 - looks through fog of war at 2 gateways just set down 3:21 - looks through fog at zealot 3:48 - probe starts by itself 4:00 - probe ques by itself (this is what i noticed last replay, so much crap to look out for x.x) 4:20 - probe ques by itself 5:27 - reacts to your probes+zealots moving away from your ramp 6:05 - looking through fog of war 6:09 - looking through fog of war at zealots blah blah same crap | ||
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-Duderino-
United States80 Posts
Blatant maphacker and bm. http://drop.sc/246751 | ||
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Adonminus
Israel543 Posts
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Avekatten
Denmark24 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On September 03 2012 21:08 Adonminus wrote: I played a grandmaster WiNDOW today (On NA server). When he started losing, my game froze for a minute and then gave me the error message "Desync". I was not sure if it was a hack or just a battle.net error but upon looking at his match history I saw a lot of ties resulted by this error. It seems to be somekind of a drophack. There is definitely a desync hack. I've come across some people who will call out a desync a second or two before it happens, at completely random times in games. These so far have been in customs, so I assumed they were just trolls trying to ruin custom games. | ||
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
Quite clear that he is desync hacking. | ||
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
On September 03 2012 21:35 EtherealDeath wrote: Also look at WINDOW's match history: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3650786/1/WiNDOW/matches Quite clear that he is desync hacking. and Blizz not reacting to stuff like this, this is a bad joke.. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Depravity
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YaShock
Hungary119 Posts
I guess it totally cool just chilling there with a proxy gate (without scouting on 3/4 player map) while staring at my base. Picture 1 Nevertheless, I held off the proxy gate and after few minutes of friendly chating I've decided to drop. Picture 2 It's obviously okay to warp in units where you need just the moment when you opponent sends medivac to drop. Picture 3 And moving towards the drop without even seeing it. NOTE: he didn't make a single observer through out the entire game. Picture 4 Picture 5 After a few minutes I've decided to send another drop, maybe he's not paying attention to my base, which he can't see. Picture 6 Once again he randomly warps in units to defend my drop. Picture 7 But the best part of that story is that despite facing a maphacker I still won. Here is the replay. | ||
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Virtuous
United States111 Posts
On September 03 2012 21:07 -Duderino- wrote: Superstar - master - division khalis beta Blatant maphacker and bm. http://drop.sc/246751 Yeah matched him the other day playing random and he called out my race and other stuff in game... I'll upload replay later when I get home | ||
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ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
On September 03 2012 21:35 EtherealDeath wrote: Also look at WINDOW's match history: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3650786/1/WiNDOW/matches Quite clear that he is desync hacking. I've contacted Blizzard about this issue and here's the answer I've got. Greetings, I received your followup ticket and hope you're having a nice day today. Please use the in game report system for Starcraft 2 to report any player you believe may be using a cheat program of any sort. Any such reports for this type of activity can only be addressed through this method. Its both fast and convenient for players as it only takes a few seconds to perform, and gathers lots of information for us to use in our investigation on the spot. Thank you for showing your concern however. If you have any other questions or issues feel free to contact us again and we'll get in touch with you as soon as possible. I'm somewhat really not satisfied with the kind of answer they have to this kind of problem, but let's do as they are asking and mass-report him in game. He currently is #98 GM with only win/ties in his match history which means he never loses pts. Please add him in game, and report with the following : Cheating: Uses of a desync hack. Hopefully, if there is a ton of reports about it, they will be reacting fast. EDIT: Will be updating the thread tonight, thanks to those who been helping by writing all the timings for the replays submitted! | ||
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XuoriG
Canada165 Posts
Server: NA Rank: Rank 1 Master Division Void Ray Chi Battle.net Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3169242/1/xSvEn/ Replay: http://drop.sc/246826 Here's a replay, I didnt analyse it but he pretty much admits he's hacking. I played vs his friend the game before, and this time when he notices Im not walling in: 01:47 [All] xSvEn: so we didnt wall this time i see 01:49 [All] xSvEn: fuck edit : yeah he straight up looks into my base to see im not walling in... | ||
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Bratsche
United States46 Posts
On September 04 2012 03:37 XuoriG wrote: Hacker: xSvEn Server: NA Rank: Rank 1 Master Division Void Ray Chi Battle.net Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3169242/1/xSvEn/ Replay: http://drop.sc/246826 Here's a replay, I didnt analyse it but he pretty much admits he's hacking. I played vs his friend the game before, and this time when he notices Im not walling in: 01:47 [All] xSvEn: so we didnt wall this time i see 01:49 [All] xSvEn: fuck edit : yeah he straight up looks into my base to see im not walling in... On September 04 2012 01:59 YaShock wrote: This is a story about young and stupid maphacker which name was MichaelBoltN. I met him on NA ladder when I was playing random (my main is Zerg on EU) and my race was Terran. I guess it totally cool just chilling there with a proxy gate (without scouting on 3/4 player map) while staring at my base. Picture 1 Nevertheless, I held off the proxy gate and after few minutes of friendly chating I've decided to drop. Picture 2 It's obviously okay to warp in units where you need just the moment when you opponent sends medivac to drop. Picture 3 And moving towards the drop without even seeing it. NOTE: he didn't make a single observer through out the entire game. Picture 4 Picture 5 After a few minutes I've decided to send another drop, maybe he's not paying attention to my base, which he can't see. Picture 6 Once again he randomly warps in units to defend my drop. Picture 7 But the best part of that story is that despite facing a maphacker I still won. Here is the replay. Haha, if you look at xSvEn's battle.net profile linked above, you'll see that him and MichaelBoltN are 2v2 teammates.....and they're Platinum. Go figure. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On September 04 2012 03:37 XuoriG wrote: Hacker: xSvEn Server: NA Rank: Rank 1 Master Division Void Ray Chi Battle.net Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3169242/1/xSvEn/ Replay: http://drop.sc/246826 Here's a replay, I didnt analyse it but he pretty much admits he's hacking. I played vs his friend the game before, and this time when he notices Im not walling in: 01:47 [All] xSvEn: so we didnt wall this time i see 01:49 [All] xSvEn: fuck edit : yeah he straight up looks into my base to see im not walling in... Just played this cunt, its so damn annoying that these people just roam the ladder with no punishment for their actions..there needs to be a 0 tolerance policy. Heres the rep: http://drop.sc/246920, builds pylons at my ramp with no scouting whatsoever. | ||
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intense555
United States474 Posts
On September 03 2012 21:30 Avekatten wrote: Just played him, he six pooled and when it failed he wrote ''No win for you sorry'' and the same thing you explained happened. This happened to me too about 3 weeks ago against the same guy if I remember correctly. EDIT: It was YetiMachine that did this to me woops :/ | ||
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Vralaren
Sweden130 Posts
On September 04 2012 04:26 Megaliskuu wrote: Just played this cunt, its so damn annoying that these people just roam the ladder with no punishment for their actions..there needs to be a 0 tolerance policy. Heres the rep: http://drop.sc/246920, builds pylons at my ramp with no scouting whatsoever. LOL i was sitting in skype with him when he did it. we rofled so hard :p.... Even though i don't maphack i find it hilarious when my friends make you people rage  User was warned for this post | ||
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Zark
United States50 Posts
LEMME SEE WUT U GOT DER IN UR BAS3 | ||
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, but if you see him beware non the less, he doesn't try to "hide" in any way and thus id rather not use a gamble build against him anytime soon.
