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ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
May 07 2012 11:12 GMT
#361
Their lineup is getting better and better. Really like it.

Best of luck to Fnatic & Oz and i wish u many wins!
U MAD BRO?
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 11:20:46
May 07 2012 11:19 GMT
#362
On May 07 2012 17:40 Neurosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 07:50 Kaitokid wrote:
On May 07 2012 07:42 Neurosis wrote:
fnatic is turning into a godmode team. Alive is arguably the best terran in the world atm (along with Taeja ♥) and now they have a top 3 protoss player.


MKP? I'd put aLive on a list with MKP, MMA and MVP rigtnow though.


Yes yes I realize most people would say MKP is the best terran player but imo it goes like this.

1. Alive
2. Very very close 2nd and easily could be considered the best, Taeja.
3. MMA
4. MKP
5. MVP
6. Gumiho

At any time you could easily swap some of them around but I really do think alive, taeja and mma are a step above everyone else. (at least for now)



haha what?

Taeja hasn't won shit all where as MarineKing has won 2 MLG's, made another MLG final and got 4 kill in the GSTL finals. MMA has won two GSL's, Iron Squid, an IEM and an MLG.

They're both far better than Taeja.

How do people come up with these comical opinions?
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 07 2012 11:22 GMT
#363
On May 07 2012 20:10 Dodgin wrote:
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On May 07 2012 20:01 Khai wrote:
Dang, FXO losing their best player =S Fnatic did really well to pick up aLive and now Oz, Hwanni is really capable.


Leenock is both FXO's best player and also 17 while Oz is 23 and his career won't keep going forever, It's not as bad as people are making it out to be. Someone on FXO's B team will step up to the plate to replace him in their GSTL lineup ( Probably Tear )

Oz is going to the army within the next year, addressing Oz's age and his career
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
May 07 2012 11:39 GMT
#364
On May 07 2012 20:19 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 17:40 Neurosis wrote:
On May 07 2012 07:50 Kaitokid wrote:
On May 07 2012 07:42 Neurosis wrote:
fnatic is turning into a godmode team. Alive is arguably the best terran in the world atm (along with Taeja ♥) and now they have a top 3 protoss player.


MKP? I'd put aLive on a list with MKP, MMA and MVP rigtnow though.


Yes yes I realize most people would say MKP is the best terran player but imo it goes like this.

1. Alive
2. Very very close 2nd and easily could be considered the best, Taeja.
3. MMA
4. MKP
5. MVP
6. Gumiho

At any time you could easily swap some of them around but I really do think alive, taeja and mma are a step above everyone else. (at least for now)



haha what?

Taeja hasn't won shit all where as MarineKing has won 2 MLG's, made another MLG final and got 4 kill in the GSTL finals. MMA has won two GSL's, Iron Squid, an IEM and an MLG.

They're both far better than Taeja.

How do people come up with these comical opinions?

Well, because one is from liquid and the other two are not? Fanboyism does have a great role to play in all these rankings. That and buying a bit into hyping from Liquid and Artosis.
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
May 07 2012 11:47 GMT
#365
Taeja is solid, but nowhere near MKP, MMA or MVP. Alive is doing well now, but isn't as stable as the beforementioned players.
g0dm0de
Profile Joined May 2012
6 Posts
May 07 2012 11:55 GMT
#366
On May 07 2012 20:47 OrchidThief wrote:
Taeja is solid, but nowhere near MKP, MMA or MVP. Alive is doing well now, but isn't as stable as the beforementioned players.


one could argue about MVP being top 3, a fan favorite but the only player out of those 4 that doesnt have a major achievement during 2012.

MKP prolly won the most out of the 4, then its pretty much tied between aLive the IPL4 champ and MMA the Iron Squid champ.
Mirrikh
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania105 Posts
May 07 2012 12:53 GMT
#367
On May 07 2012 20:55 g0dm0de wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 20:47 OrchidThief wrote:
Taeja is solid, but nowhere near MKP, MMA or MVP. Alive is doing well now, but isn't as stable as the beforementioned players.


one could argue about MVP being top 3, a fan favorite but the only player out of those 4 that doesnt have a major achievement during 2012.

MKP prolly won the most out of the 4, then its pretty much tied between aLive the IPL4 champ and MMA the Iron Squid champ.


Highest ranked Terran player in GSL 2012 after 2 seasons, still lacking in achievements this year. Poor MVP
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
May 07 2012 13:34 GMT
#368
awesome pickup from fnatic, looking forward to seeing Oz in more foreign events!
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
May 07 2012 13:44 GMT
#369
On May 07 2012 20:55 g0dm0de wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 20:47 OrchidThief wrote:
Taeja is solid, but nowhere near MKP, MMA or MVP. Alive is doing well now, but isn't as stable as the beforementioned players.


one could argue about MVP being top 3, a fan favorite but the only player out of those 4 that doesnt have a major achievement during 2012.

MKP prolly won the most out of the 4, then its pretty much tied between aLive the IPL4 champ and MMA the Iron Squid champ.

MVP without exploding wrists is the best player in the world.
MVP with exploding wrists is the second best Terran in the world.
g0dm0de
Profile Joined May 2012
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 13:52:15
May 07 2012 13:50 GMT
#370
On May 07 2012 22:44 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 20:55 g0dm0de wrote:
On May 07 2012 20:47 OrchidThief wrote:
Taeja is solid, but nowhere near MKP, MMA or MVP. Alive is doing well now, but isn't as stable as the beforementioned players.


one could argue about MVP being top 3, a fan favorite but the only player out of those 4 that doesnt have a major achievement during 2012.

MKP prolly won the most out of the 4, then its pretty much tied between aLive the IPL4 champ and MMA the Iron Squid champ.

MVP without exploding wrists is the best player in the world.
MVP with exploding wrists is the second best Terran in the world.


MVP just beat Naniwa, not that great of an acomplishment tbh

MMA and aLive have beaten other calibres.
MrSparkle
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada135 Posts
May 07 2012 13:56 GMT
#371
holy hell, did not see that coming. Congrats. Really great pick up for Fnatic.
junyo
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden47 Posts
May 07 2012 13:59 GMT
#372
On May 07 2012 16:13 TAAF wrote:
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On May 07 2012 16:05 FXOBoSs wrote:
On May 07 2012 15:47 Belisarius wrote:
On May 07 2012 12:52 Canucklehead wrote:
Boss made a blog post.

http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/post/22567380838/a-few-things-to-know-about-the-fxopen-e-sports-team

A few things to know about the FXOpen e-sports Team

[...]

As our past has shown, we prefer to grow players than to buy them out. We now have a few of our growing players maturing, such as tree, tear and whale. All are very young and very talented and you will be seeing them very soon.

[...]

Regards,

FXOBoSs


I really like Boss and I've always wanted FXO to do well, but I did have to snigger a little bit at this from the guy who effectively bought an entire Korean roster at one point.



Appreciate your words. But preferences are not absolutes We bought out fOu because it was dying. Then the star player (sC) requested a transfer to MVP, so we got him that. The rest of the players were in a little bit of a hard time, including Oz. Now look at them go Then we have the players we obtained after the acquisition who are reaching maturity. Its going to be alot of fun soon, we are now looking for our next bunch of development players to grow which in 6-8 months time will hopefully show good results.

Wow that is so ture! I just remembered after I read this that fOu was not a top korean team...


Maybe not the top team, but they had the coolest jackets ever. omg need one
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
May 07 2012 14:08 GMT
#373
The Korean draft is killing esports!
No but seriously I hate how players life Oz, ( I think Nada), and Ganzi have to go. It sucks knowing that you wont see those guys in a year.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 07 2012 14:11 GMT
#374
Holy crap, Fnatic ready for DAT GSTL lol first Alive and now Oz, though FNATICRCOz doesn't have the same ring as FxOz .
User was warned for too many mimes.
striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
May 07 2012 14:36 GMT
#375
Every team needs a Korean pro to stay relevant, foreigners with the exception of a handful are just not cutting it in terms of results.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
May 07 2012 14:42 GMT
#376
MMA lost to Leenock in Ro32 whereas MVP beat him in Ro16... Also, I think Naniwa could probably beat MMA just because his vP is really weak. He only played 1 Protoss in iron squid and lost.
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
May 07 2012 14:56 GMT
#377
On May 07 2012 19:46 GunPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 17:40 Neurosis wrote:
On May 07 2012 07:50 Kaitokid wrote:
On May 07 2012 07:42 Neurosis wrote:
fnatic is turning into a godmode team. Alive is arguably the best terran in the world atm (along with Taeja ♥) and now they have a top 3 protoss player.


MKP? I'd put aLive on a list with MKP, MMA and MVP rigtnow though.


Yes yes I realize most people would say MKP is the best terran player but imo it goes like this.

1. Alive
2. Very very close 2nd and easily could be considered the best, Taeja.
3. MMA
4. MKP
5. MVP
6. Gumiho

At any time you could easily swap some of them around but I really do think alive, taeja and mma are a step above everyone else. (at least for now)


sorry but no, none of them have won as much as MKP has.


Uh..... Mvp?
Cenja
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden498 Posts
May 07 2012 14:59 GMT
#378
Nice for fnatic, they were my favorite team in CS so it's cool to see them stacked in SC2 aswell
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
TannerTheGamer
Profile Joined November 2011
7 Posts
May 07 2012 15:01 GMT
#379
On May 07 2012 17:40 Neurosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 07:50 Kaitokid wrote:
On May 07 2012 07:42 Neurosis wrote:
fnatic is turning into a godmode team. Alive is arguably the best terran in the world atm (along with Taeja ♥) and now they have a top 3 protoss player.


MKP? I'd put aLive on a list with MKP, MMA and MVP rigtnow though.


Yes yes I realize most people would say MKP is the best terran player but imo it goes like this.

1. Alive
2. Very very close 2nd and easily could be considered the best, Taeja.
3. MMA
4. MKP
5. MVP
6. Gumiho

At any time you could easily swap some of them around but I really do think alive, taeja and mma are a step above everyone else. (at least for now)


Really? MKP is widely regarded as the best player in the world, let alone the best terran. He has destroyed everything lately except for his loss to Taeja which knocked him out of the GSL running. It must be noted that MKP beat Taeja already in their group and was 1 game away from advancing before Parting all-in'd him. MKP was jet-lagged and ended up losing the second series he had to play against Taeja and got eliminated.

MKP destroys Protoss in a time when most Terrans consider Protoss to be a little imba. He has beat the best zerg in the world (DRG) over and over and over. Nobody has better control and nobody has more builds than him. When he is at the top of his game, nobody can stop him.
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
May 07 2012 15:31 GMT
#380
congrats to fnatic and Oz
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