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horsebanger
Profile Joined January 2012
141 Posts
April 30 2012 19:16 GMT
#21
there is this other streamer who is banned from TL, I hear he pulls big numbers whenever he streams
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
April 30 2012 19:16 GMT
#22
On May 01 2012 03:54 Stanlot wrote:
Man, I miss Cella's stream.


When was the last time he streamed? I started watching his stream March 5, 2011 after everyone went from HuK's stream to Cella's when HuK went offline, and after a few months he was having troubles with streaming due to lag and it seems to me he has stopped ever since... :S

I never see his stream online anymore T.T.

Too bad because it was the best stream I've ever watched
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
April 30 2012 19:16 GMT
#23
IdrA's peak viewer number is 15k? Didn't we get it up to 20k once for some kind of challenge?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 30 2012 19:17 GMT
#24
Would be interesting to see those numbers translated into $ figures. Of course, that's dependant on the number of commercials they run...but we could always use an estimate for that.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 30 2012 19:19 GMT
#25
I like Hui's stream a lot more than I thought.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
lodeet
Profile Joined September 2011
United States147 Posts
April 30 2012 19:19 GMT
#26
IdrA is the most depressing player to watch, but somehow I am still drawn to his stream.

It's like I still hope that one day he will stop being a fucking idiot and actually play the game.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 19:23:12
April 30 2012 19:19 GMT
#27
On May 01 2012 04:13 Seldentar wrote:
At least one of your numbers is wrong because I remember over spring break when Stephano was streaming before the Lone Star Cup he had AT LEAST 18k viewers, but I think he even got over 20k at one point.

Good effort nonetheless and accurate enough I suppose.

That's entirely possible. My script checks TL.net every 15 minutes, so the 20k viewers could have happened in a 15 minute time frame for my script to miss it. Another possibility would be TL.net itself not displaying the viewer numbers accurately. If you hover your mouse over a stream name you get the current viewers of a stream. That's the numbers I work with.
If you happen to have the exact date, I could check my log and see what it says, though.

EDIT: Also note that, as I said in the OP, I started gathering data on 22.03., it's of course entirely possible (and likely) that the various streamers have had higher peak viewer numbers before that.
Tal0n
Profile Joined April 2010
United States175 Posts
April 30 2012 19:20 GMT
#28
i'd love you to keep doing this.
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
April 30 2012 19:22 GMT
#29
My current fav to watch, Rainbow, not even on list!
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 20:05:15
April 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#30
Having skill and personality helps, but that's not why IdrA and Stephano are that ahead of everyone else. Look at the 1st and 2nd place and compare that to the 3rd-10th places. The average viewers and peak viewers drop by >half for the latter. IdrA and Stephano are not just the best streamers, they are the best streamers by a very large margin.

IMO, IdrA and Stephano have one thing in common - they have the highest amount of exposure and hype in the foreigner's scene. IdrA because of his bm, and because he *was* once the biggest name in Western eSports and has an enormous fan base. Stephano because he has a great personality, and because he *is* the biggest name in Western eSports, which also gives him an enormous fan base.

But both are Zerg, too - and Zerg is fun to watch on stream. Are Naniwa and Thorzain going to be able to get the same viewer count?
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
April 30 2012 19:24 GMT
#31
:D great write up!
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#32
On May 01 2012 04:22 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
My current fav to watch, Rainbow, not even on list!

He didn't quite make it. Rainbow currently has an average viewer number of 472 (peak 1897). There is a ton of well known players who did not even come close to making it into the top 50.
Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
April 30 2012 19:26 GMT
#33
On May 01 2012 04:16 MichaelDonovan wrote:
IdrA's peak viewer number is 15k? Didn't we get it up to 20k once for some kind of challenge?

"with data gathered from 22.03.12 until today"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46163 Posts
April 30 2012 19:28 GMT
#34
Very nice! Not at all surprised with the top ten, although I didn't expect DeMusliM to be quite as high. Happy for him though

Only 3 Koreans in the top ten (MKP, MC, Hero). That's pretty interesting. Personality over ability level is definitely valued when it comes to streaming (although, obviously, none of the Most Watched Players are scrubs!).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
April 30 2012 19:31 GMT
#35
Back in the day, Cella stream got huge numbers. What awesome times those were, i miss it so much.
drbrown
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden442 Posts
April 30 2012 19:34 GMT
#36
On May 01 2012 04:19 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 04:13 Seldentar wrote:
At least one of your numbers is wrong because I remember over spring break when Stephano was streaming before the Lone Star Cup he had AT LEAST 18k viewers, but I think he even got over 20k at one point.

Good effort nonetheless and accurate enough I suppose.

That's entirely possible. My script checks TL.net every 15 minutes, so the 20k viewers could have happened in a 15 minute time frame for my script to miss it. Another possibility would be TL.net itself not displaying the viewer numbers accurately. If you hover your mouse over a stream name you get the current viewers of a stream. That's the numbers I work with.
If you happen to have the exact date, I could check my log and see what it says, though.

EDIT: Also note that, as I said in the OP, I started gathering data on 22.03., it's of course entirely possible (and likely) that the various streamers have had higher peak viewer numbers before that.


I was watching the stream when Stephano broke 19k, but if im not mistaken that was before the Lone Star Clash and thus before your script started recording the number of viewers, i dont think your script is wrong. However, Team Liquid is pretty slow on updating viewer numbers, often lagging about 2k behind, it's better to get them directly from twitch.
I'm probably being ironic
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
April 30 2012 19:36 GMT
#37
This data highlights what I consider to be the biggest difference between LoL as a spectator sport and SC2. In LoL, for the longest time (before they moved into a Korean team house) I could log on pretty much any time of day and watch CLG play. They were dedicated and committed to providing stream content. Also about half the time (more with personalities like SV and less with some of the shy guys) they would not just be playing with music but also giving play by play commentary and Q+A.
Sure they are doing it for the money but they also realize that being available personally makes people get emotionally invested. The closest thing SC2 has had to this was Destiny back when he was first starting and look how well it has worked for him.

SC2 will never reach its full potential if we keep propagating the myth that all pros need to do is play good games.
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
April 30 2012 19:38 GMT
#38
I didn't know Moon streamed at all
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
April 30 2012 19:39 GMT
#39
On May 01 2012 04:19 lodeet wrote:
IdrA is the most depressing player to watch, but somehow I am still drawn to his stream.

It's like I still hope that one day he will stop being a fucking idiot and actually play the game.


This is a silly thing to say...
Despite all the hate, IdrA is still one of the top 10-15 foreigners in the world.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 30 2012 19:40 GMT
#40
On May 01 2012 04:34 drbrown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 04:19 Conti wrote:
On May 01 2012 04:13 Seldentar wrote:
At least one of your numbers is wrong because I remember over spring break when Stephano was streaming before the Lone Star Cup he had AT LEAST 18k viewers, but I think he even got over 20k at one point.

Good effort nonetheless and accurate enough I suppose.

That's entirely possible. My script checks TL.net every 15 minutes, so the 20k viewers could have happened in a 15 minute time frame for my script to miss it. Another possibility would be TL.net itself not displaying the viewer numbers accurately. If you hover your mouse over a stream name you get the current viewers of a stream. That's the numbers I work with.
If you happen to have the exact date, I could check my log and see what it says, though.

EDIT: Also note that, as I said in the OP, I started gathering data on 22.03., it's of course entirely possible (and likely) that the various streamers have had higher peak viewer numbers before that.


I was watching the stream when Stephano broke 19k, but if im not mistaken that was before the Lone Star Clash and thus before your script started recording the number of viewers, i dont think your script is wrong. However, Team Liquid is pretty slow on updating viewer numbers, often lagging about 2k behind, it's better to get them directly from twitch.

It is better, yes, but there are so many streamers that it's not really feasible with my limited programming knowledge. The number of streamers in my database is a four figure one, checking them individually every 15 minutes seems like quite a task (especially since there are a handful of different stream platforms that are being used). Maybe I'll have a look at the various APIs of the platforms and see if I could get the numbers directly from them when I have the time.
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