EPTOn May 25 2012 20:12 Musicus wrote:
overrate and Ret in one sentence, now I've seen everything :D
overrate and Ret in one sentence, now I've seen everything :D
You don't until you saw IdrA and winning in the same sentence.
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
You don't until you saw IdrA and winning in the same sentence. | ||
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Shaddar
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Ganzi/Violet Taeja/Sase Bomber/MC Parting/Squirtle | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 25 2012 17:23 mTwTT1 wrote: i think lastshadow is being made a scapegoat for a much larger issue which i wont bring up ^.^, So The grudge between IdrA and Day[9] got Last Shadow invited? + Show Spoiler + I am putting words in your mouth. | ||
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huehuehuehue
Estonia455 Posts
On May 25 2012 17:23 mTwTT1 wrote: i think lastshadow is being made a scapegoat for a much larger issue which i wont bring up ^.^, even tho i also agree that he doesnt deserve his spot in the tournament the same could be said for osto and he hasnt received nearly as much hate as lastshadow has i for one could care less if player x gets invited over player y in a tournament, a good player will always find a way to showcase his skill regardless of what tournament he gets invited to, if its not this tournament it'll be the next one. im actually excited to see some new blood within the competitive scene, makes it much more exciting and im sure everyone is curious to see how well they stake up against high level players edit: oh yea and my picks are: GanZi Illusion Stephano < Violet < Group 2 Sheth Taeja < Thorzain SaSe < Group 3 Bomber Ostojiy HuK < MC < Group 4 Ret < LastShadow PartinG Squirtle < with ret winning it all unless he runs into stephano Why mention it when you don't want to elaborate on that issue? | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
On May 25 2012 21:49 huehuehuehue wrote: Why mention it when you don't want to elaborate on that issue? Because now we know that he knows! | ||
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CaM27
Belgium392 Posts
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
On May 25 2012 22:03 CaM27 wrote: Is it really starting at 3amCET? SIGH Q.Q It's only a preview. The tournament starts saturday 19 CET afaik. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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Dahkar
United States13 Posts
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Amornthep
Singapore2605 Posts
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HeroMystic
United States1217 Posts
On May 25 2012 22:29 Mozdk wrote: Is the stream free? Yes. As for LS, I don't believe he's all that great, though he is a good pro player and he could kick our asses in a game any day of the week. However, Squirtle and Parting are right up there with MC's calibur of PvT. Both are fucking beasts and I severely doubt LS has any chance whatsoever of getting out of the group. I really doubt LS is gonna beat Ret as well unless he plays really aggressively early in the game (I'm talking Proxy Rax), but with the Queen buff I doubt that'd work either. | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
how are illusion sheth lastshadow and ostojiy supposed to win even one game? (sheth might have a chance i guess...) they will get completely destroyed will gain almost nothing from the tournament and the viewers won't get to see the best games possible. I don't understand why the don't invite a few more internationally strong players like kas mana socke hasu nerchio bling or someone else ... while generally a supporter of the idea to get some newcomers into the scene but letting them get destroyed by some of the best koreans is just not the way to do it imo we saw some of illusion's and ostojiy's performances at international tournaments and i think we can say that they were not ready yet they might be very good in their regions but i don't think they are capable of playing on an international stage yet | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On May 25 2012 23:31 sVnteen wrote: i dont get those invites... how are illusion sheth lastshadow and ostojiy supposed to win even one game? (sheth might have a chance i guess...) they will get completely destroyed will gain almost nothing from the tournament and the viewers won't get to see the best games possible. I don't understand why the don't invite a few more internationally strong players like kas mana socke hasu nerchio bling or someone else ... while generally a supporter of the idea to get some newcomers into the scene but letting them get destroyed by some of the best koreans is just not the way to do it imo we saw some of illusion's and ostojiy's performances at international tournaments and i think we can say that they were not ready yet they might be very good in their regions but i don't think they are capable of playing on an international stage yet Wtf because they are foreigners and actually do take games off koreans(except ls) | ||
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Kiwiandapple
Belgium240 Posts
On May 26 2012 00:07 GreyKnight wrote: Wtf because they are foreigners and actually do take games off koreans(except ls) Illusion beat 3 Code S level players in the IPL4 open bracket, off each race. Doubt he will get facestomped, aswell his tvz is his best matchup while tvt is awesome aggresive aswell. As far as I know they were SlayerSRyung, LiquidZenio and FXOz, losing to MaruPrime and Creator (who is a god damn monster PvT aswell ;p) Ls is apparently GM on korean ladder and he recently released a replaypack where he did beat a fair amount of high level players. even tho I dont know much about him, i give him a chance off getting a few maps and might even able to upset, altho both those 2 protoss players in his group are freaking deadly in PvT give him a break and check his games first before we all start to judge? Ostojiy i sadly dont follow that well so wont say anything about him, but - the chance for an upset is possible. thats all im saying and I like it that they get a chance to play in this tournament, sure they might get crushed, but - if they have a good day and just are able to play at their level - im quite sure Illusion and Sheth can both make it out the group. I do give illusion the most chance and not only because off me being bias. Anyway, cant wait for this tourny! HYPED <3 | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On May 25 2012 18:49 JustPassingBy wrote: This, and the fact that qualifiers are not hard to run, with plattform like regame or playhem out there. In fact, you don't even need to cast all of them or give a shit about it at all, as seen in the IPL events. I think you underestimate difficulty of running proper qualifier. Also note this is first really big tournament Day[9].tv seems to be organizing on their own. I think they have their hands full even without qualifiers. I suppose that if it succeeds they will gain more experience and next tournaments can be probably mixed invite/qualifier tournaments. Note that nearly all tournaments are mixed ones to some degree. And organizations when starting made more invite-heavy tournaments than the the following ones. NASL S1 was completely invite based (except Puma). | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On May 25 2012 18:49 JustPassingBy wrote: This, and the fact that qualifiers are not hard to run, with plattform like regame or playhem out there. In fact, you don't even need to cast all of them or give a shit about it at all, as seen in the IPL events. I don't think you can find a single tournament organizer that will agree with this statement. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On May 25 2012 20:56 Koshi wrote: So The grudge between IdrA and Day[9] got Last Shadow invited? + Show Spoiler + I am putting words in your mouth. I think he meant all the hate that ls (and Day[9]) is getting now. So the "haters" are making ls into a scapegoat. If I would speculate to me it more seems like there is some tension between Incontrol(+Idra) and Day[9] beside the current witch-hunt targeted him. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On May 26 2012 00:31 mcc wrote: I think he meant all the hate that ls (and Day[9]) is getting now. So the "haters" are making ls into a scapegoat. If I would speculate to me it more seems like there is some tension between Incontrol(+Idra) and Day[9] beside the current witch-hunt targeted him. Really I thought he was talking about cheaters and TL community not liking LastShadow. InControl himself does not approve of LastShadow's invitation either according to his own comments on the matter. TT1 was too cryptic in his comments. With such vagueness it is hard to tell what he was hinting at... LastShadow will either do well or he won't. Let the games decide whether he was a good invitation or not. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On May 25 2012 20:12 Musicus wrote: overrate and Ret in one sentence, now I've seen everything :D Ret is the most overrated player in the entire scene. He's obviously a really good foreign player, one of the best foreign players in fact after the big three of Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. But he's not a Code S level player and he's never won a Premier Tournament with Korean's present, he's never even made the final of one. The two times he's made the semi finals was at both Dreamhack's where he was crushed very convincingly by Hero and Polt Now obviously Ret is capable of beating good players (like Mvp and Genius) but his overall record vs top Korean players is the worst of any of the best foreign players and for every tournament where he beats players like Mvp and Genius he'll have two or three tournaments where he gets rolled by them or worse he loses to mid tier foreign players. Ret is a good player, he's not a great player, he hasn't posted any massive results like Huk and Stephano and he's extremely inconsistant. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
kinda funny how everyone's photo is like a pro photo from an event and lastshadow's is some webcam screengrab, sums it up really | ||
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