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BlueLanterna
Profile Joined April 2011
291 Posts
May 17 2012 21:52 GMT
#421
On May 18 2012 06:46 Caelyn0101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:38 Willba wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:32 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:31 StarVe wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:27 Klondikebar wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:25 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:23 Weaklink123 wrote:
I am very excited to see how LS fairs. I hope to see mech TvP in group 4 .


I can already tell you how he will fair, he will lose. This is all.


Someone's got a vendetta. I guarantee you every player on that list considers him a threat.


I'm pretty sure Stephano has no idea who he even is, but that wouldn't say anything about LS, more about Stephano.


no1 will know who he is lol. he is bad.


Just fuck off with your shitty quality posts, hopefully you get banned so everyone else won't have to be subjected to your ignorance and inflamatory posts.


My ignorance ? lol. I only know about LS because i've had the pleasure of receiving his rage on the ladder after beating him several times. ur the johnny gold leaguer that is ignorant my friend.


So you would be the better invite? lol.

I'd like to see those replays, and what your total record is against him.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 21:58:04
May 17 2012 21:55 GMT
#422
On May 18 2012 06:37 BlueLanterna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:21 Apollo_Shards wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:15 Willba wrote:
Almost impossible to judge ls' offline capability since all we see is ladder. Nice to see clueless people making clueless presumptions anyway though . I mean he's showed at least some potential based on the players hes beaten on korean ladder, definitely more than most foreigners on ladder.


No he is actually bad. I know this community is really harsh in judging people like "oh man he dropped out of code S, he must be bad". But no, this guy, is actually bad. Why would they think it was would be a good idea to get some midmaster on the Korean server who BMs all the time to play with actually good players and great personalities. Makes no sense.


Your entire argument consists of "he's so bad". Are you just hating because he hasn't played in any tournaments purposefully and now he's being given a chance at one? Give me a break. He's released plenty of replays showing that he can hang with the best, and being in mid/top masters on Korea playing against Code S/A players is pretty indicative of potential to do well. And he really does not BM all the time, I highly doubt you even watch his stream. He absolutely admits mistakes at times but rages just like most other players on occasion.

Edit: It's really hilarious how much of a vendetta a few choice posters in this topic have against the guy, what, did he steal your girlfriend in 8th grade?


I can´t talk about the other guys motives, but for me the invite seems just totally random. Fact is: His last achievment was getiing second place at a 370$-tournament 6 months ago, losing the finals to Boyo. Fact is: He is not part of the korean grandmaster, which foreign pros normally attend, if they are going to korea. It is not the case, that he should be invited, until someone does prove, that he is bad. To get invited to a tournament, which pays you 500$ for just attending, you have to proof, that you are good. And he clearly isn´t doing this, so people who are fans of players, who actually show results, are a bit pissed, that he geets a 500-$ donation, while others do not, although they deserve it much more.
Caelyn0101
Profile Joined September 2011
103 Posts
May 17 2012 21:56 GMT
#423
On May 18 2012 06:52 BlueLanterna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:46 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:38 Willba wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:32 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:31 StarVe wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:27 Klondikebar wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:25 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:23 Weaklink123 wrote:
I am very excited to see how LS fairs. I hope to see mech TvP in group 4 .


I can already tell you how he will fair, he will lose. This is all.


Someone's got a vendetta. I guarantee you every player on that list considers him a threat.


I'm pretty sure Stephano has no idea who he even is, but that wouldn't say anything about LS, more about Stephano.


no1 will know who he is lol. he is bad.


Just fuck off with your shitty quality posts, hopefully you get banned so everyone else won't have to be subjected to your ignorance and inflamatory posts.


My ignorance ? lol. I only know about LS because i've had the pleasure of receiving his rage on the ladder after beating him several times. ur the johnny gold leaguer that is ignorant my friend.


So you would be the better invite? lol.

I'd like to see those replays, and what your total record is against him.


I'm not a pro gamer so no. The whole point is LS is only here due to his friendship with day9. His skill is low. and his attitude is terrible. He's like idrA but without the tournament results. so it's just an obnoxious emo kid thats way out of his depth and thinks he is better than he is.
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
May 17 2012 21:58 GMT
#424
Is lastshadow new to tournaments? Most, if not all, of these players have over come their nerves and are good tournament players.
noamuk
Profile Joined November 2011
13 Posts
May 17 2012 21:58 GMT
#425
Stephano knows ls.. also he has already beaten parting on ladder and none of us know how he does in foreign events,
too bad theres no terran in his group, his tvt is crazy
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
May 17 2012 22:01 GMT
#426
On May 18 2012 06:55 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:37 BlueLanterna wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:21 Apollo_Shards wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:15 Willba wrote:
Almost impossible to judge ls' offline capability since all we see is ladder. Nice to see clueless people making clueless presumptions anyway though . I mean he's showed at least some potential based on the players hes beaten on korean ladder, definitely more than most foreigners on ladder.


No he is actually bad. I know this community is really harsh in judging people like "oh man he dropped out of code S, he must be bad". But no, this guy, is actually bad. Why would they think it was would be a good idea to get some midmaster on the Korean server who BMs all the time to play with actually good players and great personalities. Makes no sense.


Your entire argument consists of "he's so bad". Are you just hating because he hasn't played in any tournaments purposefully and now he's being given a chance at one? Give me a break. He's released plenty of replays showing that he can hang with the best, and being in mid/top masters on Korea playing against Code S/A players is pretty indicative of potential to do well. And he really does not BM all the time, I highly doubt you even watch his stream. He absolutely admits mistakes at times but rages just like most other players on occasion.

Edit: It's really hilarious how much of a vendetta a few choice posters in this topic have against the guy, what, did he steal your girlfriend in 8th grade?


I can´t talk about the other guys motives, but for me the invite seems just totally random. Fact is: His last achievment was getiing second place at a 370$-tournament 6 months ago, losing the finals to Boyo. Fact is: He is not part of the korean grandmaster, which foreign pros normally attend, if they are going to korea. It is not the case, that he should be invited, until someone does prove, that he is bad. To get invited to a tournament, which pays you 500$ for just attending, you have to proof, that you are good. And he clearly isn´t doing this, so people who are fans of players, who actually show results, are a bit pissed, that he geets a 500-$ donation, while others do not, although they deserve it much more.

I think there's way too much stuff that might have happened behind the scenes that we don't know about to warrant showing so much hate. E.g. Naniwa said he was invited but under the circumstances he had to decline. We have no idea how many progamers were in that exact same situation. Imo the fact that the organisers decided to invite him + he accepted = fair enough, let's give him a go and see what happens.

And let's be honest here, almost every group has that one guy where you look at him and would go "Yeah, you're not making it out."
noamuk
Profile Joined November 2011
13 Posts
May 17 2012 22:04 GMT
#427
in a week you will see him crushing known pro-gamers and advancing out of the group
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 17 2012 22:04 GMT
#428
On May 18 2012 06:50 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:21 Apollo_Shards wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:15 Willba wrote:
Almost impossible to judge ls' offline capability since all we see is ladder. Nice to see clueless people making clueless presumptions anyway though . I mean he's showed at least some potential based on the players hes beaten on korean ladder, definitely more than most foreigners on ladder.


No he is actually bad. I know this community is really harsh in judging people like "oh man he dropped out of code S, he must be bad". But no, this guy, is actually bad. Why would they think it was would be a good idea to get some midmaster on the Korean server who BMs all the time to play with actually good players and great personalities. Makes no sense.


He is actually pretty good with the perfect mindset to get better, much like Naniwa's actually. Not to uncommon for him to hammer out over 60 games in a day.

lastshadow is not enough talented for becoming naniwa, either decent pro.

some decent pros in Korea:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/3472734/FnaticRCToD
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/687153/NvMacSed(SaSe)
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/3366446/MajOr
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2694226/EGHuK
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2238284/LiquidHayprO

lastshadow:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2103073/ajtlsShield

BlueLanterna
Profile Joined April 2011
291 Posts
May 17 2012 22:07 GMT
#429
On May 18 2012 06:56 Caelyn0101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:52 BlueLanterna wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:46 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:38 Willba wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:32 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:31 StarVe wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:27 Klondikebar wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:25 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:23 Weaklink123 wrote:
I am very excited to see how LS fairs. I hope to see mech TvP in group 4 .


I can already tell you how he will fair, he will lose. This is all.


Someone's got a vendetta. I guarantee you every player on that list considers him a threat.


I'm pretty sure Stephano has no idea who he even is, but that wouldn't say anything about LS, more about Stephano.


no1 will know who he is lol. he is bad.


Just fuck off with your shitty quality posts, hopefully you get banned so everyone else won't have to be subjected to your ignorance and inflamatory posts.


My ignorance ? lol. I only know about LS because i've had the pleasure of receiving his rage on the ladder after beating him several times. ur the johnny gold leaguer that is ignorant my friend.


So you would be the better invite? lol.

I'd like to see those replays, and what your total record is against him.


I'm not a pro gamer so no. The whole point is LS is only here due to his friendship with day9. His skill is low. and his attitude is terrible. He's like idrA but without the tournament results. so it's just an obnoxious emo kid thats way out of his depth and thinks he is better than he is.


There are a ton of other players who have bad attitudes and little to no results, I wonder if you're as gung ho about posting in their tournament threads telling them how terrible they are, along with the personal attacks as well.
Moosegills
Profile Joined March 2011
United States558 Posts
May 17 2012 22:08 GMT
#430
On May 18 2012 06:46 Caelyn0101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:38 Willba wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:32 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:31 StarVe wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:27 Klondikebar wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:25 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:23 Weaklink123 wrote:
I am very excited to see how LS fairs. I hope to see mech TvP in group 4 .


I can already tell you how he will fair, he will lose. This is all.


Someone's got a vendetta. I guarantee you every player on that list considers him a threat.


I'm pretty sure Stephano has no idea who he even is, but that wouldn't say anything about LS, more about Stephano.


no1 will know who he is lol. he is bad.


Just fuck off with your shitty quality posts, hopefully you get banned so everyone else won't have to be subjected to your ignorance and inflamatory posts.


My ignorance ? lol. I only know about LS because i've had the pleasure of receiving his rage on the ladder after beating him several times. ur the johnny gold leaguer that is ignorant my friend.

flex dem guns
#1 HuK fan, zerg player playing for http://www.complexitygaming.com - @coL_Moosegills
noamuk
Profile Joined November 2011
13 Posts
May 17 2012 22:14 GMT
#431
On May 18 2012 07:04 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:50 Luepert wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:21 Apollo_Shards wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:15 Willba wrote:
Almost impossible to judge ls' offline capability since all we see is ladder. Nice to see clueless people making clueless presumptions anyway though . I mean he's showed at least some potential based on the players hes beaten on korean ladder, definitely more than most foreigners on ladder.


No he is actually bad. I know this community is really harsh in judging people like "oh man he dropped out of code S, he must be bad". But no, this guy, is actually bad. Why would they think it was would be a good idea to get some midmaster on the Korean server who BMs all the time to play with actually good players and great personalities. Makes no sense.


He is actually pretty good with the perfect mindset to get better, much like Naniwa's actually. Not to uncommon for him to hammer out over 60 games in a day.

lastshadow is not enough talented for becoming naniwa, either decent pro.

some decent pros in Korea:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/3472734/FnaticRCToD
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/687153/NvMacSed(SaSe)
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/3366446/MajOr
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2694226/EGHuK
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2238284/LiquidHayprO

lastshadow:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2103073/ajtlsShield



Its so funny because ls is ranked higher than any of those "decent pros"
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
May 17 2012 22:14 GMT
#432
On May 18 2012 07:04 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:50 Luepert wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:21 Apollo_Shards wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:15 Willba wrote:
Almost impossible to judge ls' offline capability since all we see is ladder. Nice to see clueless people making clueless presumptions anyway though . I mean he's showed at least some potential based on the players hes beaten on korean ladder, definitely more than most foreigners on ladder.


No he is actually bad. I know this community is really harsh in judging people like "oh man he dropped out of code S, he must be bad". But no, this guy, is actually bad. Why would they think it was would be a good idea to get some midmaster on the Korean server who BMs all the time to play with actually good players and great personalities. Makes no sense.


He is actually pretty good with the perfect mindset to get better, much like Naniwa's actually. Not to uncommon for him to hammer out over 60 games in a day.

lastshadow is not enough talented for becoming naniwa, either decent pro.

some decent pros in Korea:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/3472734/FnaticRCToD
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/687153/NvMacSed(SaSe)
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/3366446/MajOr
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2694226/EGHuK
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2238284/LiquidHayprO

lastshadow:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2103073/ajtlsShield




I don't ladder ajtlsShield as shown on stream after someone kept disconnecting me by logging in and dropped me mass points while I was streaming, hence why I use Oasis's ID's, Oasis sometimes uses it now when I'm on his ID, thanks though!
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 22:16:58
May 17 2012 22:15 GMT
#433
On May 18 2012 07:01 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:55 Xoronius wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:37 BlueLanterna wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:21 Apollo_Shards wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:15 Willba wrote:
Almost impossible to judge ls' offline capability since all we see is ladder. Nice to see clueless people making clueless presumptions anyway though . I mean he's showed at least some potential based on the players hes beaten on korean ladder, definitely more than most foreigners on ladder.


No he is actually bad. I know this community is really harsh in judging people like "oh man he dropped out of code S, he must be bad". But no, this guy, is actually bad. Why would they think it was would be a good idea to get some midmaster on the Korean server who BMs all the time to play with actually good players and great personalities. Makes no sense.


Your entire argument consists of "he's so bad". Are you just hating because he hasn't played in any tournaments purposefully and now he's being given a chance at one? Give me a break. He's released plenty of replays showing that he can hang with the best, and being in mid/top masters on Korea playing against Code S/A players is pretty indicative of potential to do well. And he really does not BM all the time, I highly doubt you even watch his stream. He absolutely admits mistakes at times but rages just like most other players on occasion.

Edit: It's really hilarious how much of a vendetta a few choice posters in this topic have against the guy, what, did he steal your girlfriend in 8th grade?


I can´t talk about the other guys motives, but for me the invite seems just totally random. Fact is: His last achievment was getiing second place at a 370$-tournament 6 months ago, losing the finals to Boyo. Fact is: He is not part of the korean grandmaster, which foreign pros normally attend, if they are going to korea. It is not the case, that he should be invited, until someone does prove, that he is bad. To get invited to a tournament, which pays you 500$ for just attending, you have to proof, that you are good. And he clearly isn´t doing this, so people who are fans of players, who actually show results, are a bit pissed, that he geets a 500-$ donation, while others do not, although they deserve it much more.

I think there's way too much stuff that might have happened behind the scenes that we don't know about to warrant showing so much hate. E.g. Naniwa said he was invited but under the circumstances he had to decline. We have no idea how many progamers were in that exact same situation. Imo the fact that the organisers decided to invite him + he accepted = fair enough, let's give him a go and see what happens.

And let's be honest here, almost every group has that one guy where you look at him and would go "Yeah, you're not making it out."


Yeah, but those guys (probably Illusion or Ostojiy) are at least beating good players in open brackets of MLG/IPL or winning series in clanwars. Lastshadow is achieving nothing to earn that spot. I think I could name 50-70 europeans, who are having better results this year and would deserve this spot based oin results.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
May 17 2012 22:16 GMT
#434
On May 18 2012 07:07 BlueLanterna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 06:56 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:52 BlueLanterna wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:46 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:38 Willba wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:32 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:31 StarVe wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:27 Klondikebar wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:25 Caelyn0101 wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:23 Weaklink123 wrote:
I am very excited to see how LS fairs. I hope to see mech TvP in group 4 .


I can already tell you how he will fair, he will lose. This is all.


Someone's got a vendetta. I guarantee you every player on that list considers him a threat.


I'm pretty sure Stephano has no idea who he even is, but that wouldn't say anything about LS, more about Stephano.


no1 will know who he is lol. he is bad.


Just fuck off with your shitty quality posts, hopefully you get banned so everyone else won't have to be subjected to your ignorance and inflamatory posts.


My ignorance ? lol. I only know about LS because i've had the pleasure of receiving his rage on the ladder after beating him several times. ur the johnny gold leaguer that is ignorant my friend.


So you would be the better invite? lol.

I'd like to see those replays, and what your total record is against him.


I'm not a pro gamer so no. The whole point is LS is only here due to his friendship with day9. His skill is low. and his attitude is terrible. He's like idrA but without the tournament results. so it's just an obnoxious emo kid thats way out of his depth and thinks he is better than he is.


There are a ton of other players who have bad attitudes and little to no results, I wonder if you're as gung ho about posting in their tournament threads telling them how terrible they are, along with the personal attacks as well.



Those players arent invited to a big tournament where you get 500$ just for showing up. That is the difference.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 17 2012 22:16 GMT
#435
On May 18 2012 07:14 lastshadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 07:04 dragonborn wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:50 Luepert wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:21 Apollo_Shards wrote:
On May 18 2012 06:15 Willba wrote:
Almost impossible to judge ls' offline capability since all we see is ladder. Nice to see clueless people making clueless presumptions anyway though . I mean he's showed at least some potential based on the players hes beaten on korean ladder, definitely more than most foreigners on ladder.


No he is actually bad. I know this community is really harsh in judging people like "oh man he dropped out of code S, he must be bad". But no, this guy, is actually bad. Why would they think it was would be a good idea to get some midmaster on the Korean server who BMs all the time to play with actually good players and great personalities. Makes no sense.


He is actually pretty good with the perfect mindset to get better, much like Naniwa's actually. Not to uncommon for him to hammer out over 60 games in a day.

lastshadow is not enough talented for becoming naniwa, either decent pro.

some decent pros in Korea:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/3472734/FnaticRCToD
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/687153/NvMacSed(SaSe)
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/3366446/MajOr
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2694226/EGHuK
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2238284/LiquidHayprO

lastshadow:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2103073/ajtlsShield




I don't ladder ajtlsShield as shown on stream after someone kept disconnecting me by logging in and dropped me mass points while I was streaming, hence why I use Oasis's ID's, Oasis sometimes uses it now when I'm on his ID, thanks though!

http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/2699858/OasisProS

what is the difference? 30 point?

lol.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
May 17 2012 22:19 GMT
#436
That's not Oasis's ID, he hasn't been in ProS for 6months. and "Oasis" is RsSkit, in case you wanted to drop that in here as well.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
SilentShout
Profile Joined March 2011
686 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 22:22:00
May 17 2012 22:20 GMT
#437
Noo, Polt. It's understandable though, getting back into Code S is a priority over this tournament I suppose.

Edit: He would have been in the same group as Stephano too... That's tragic, those two always produce such amazing games.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 22:25:00
May 17 2012 22:23 GMT
#438
On May 18 2012 07:19 lastshadow wrote:
That's not Oasis's ID, he hasn't been in ProS for 6months. and "Oasis" is RsSkit, in case you wanted to drop that in here as well.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/309263/RsSkit

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/724_Oasis
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/2337_Skit

so what is Skit's account? and of course your "accounts"?
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
May 17 2012 22:23 GMT
#439
On May 18 2012 07:04 noamuk wrote:
in a week you will see him crushing known pro-gamers and advancing out of the group



want to bet? $20 he doesnt get out of his group.
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
May 17 2012 22:25 GMT
#440
On May 18 2012 07:23 dragonborn wrote:
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On May 18 2012 07:19 lastshadow wrote:
That's not Oasis's ID, he hasn't been in ProS for 6months. and "Oasis" is RsSkit, in case you wanted to drop that in here as well.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/309263/RsSkit

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/724_Oasis
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/2337_Skit

so what is Skit's account?


Skit used Oasis pre-Code A match, RsSkit is his main account, you don't know how Korea works apparently, so you should just stop posting?
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