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z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 08:01:35
April 21 2012 07:56 GMT
#761
On April 21 2012 07:19 ampson wrote:
Less than 10% of the posts are actually constructive criticism


On April 21 2012 15:46 ghosthunter wrote:
Mostly it's people just hating on his voice, his looks, and his general casting.


Both statements are true. But when the majority of "haters" claim that a commentator's VOICE and PERSONALITY are subpar, how exactly can you expect anyone to offer CONSTRUCTIVE criticism?

"Hey Moletrap, have you considered undergoing surgery on your vocal cords to deepen your voice? How about improving your vocabulary beyond the word "epic" and loud screeching noises whenever something exciting happens? Or perhaps you could develop a better sense of humor so you can use it to cover up your lack of game knowledge?"

I know the criticisms are harsh and he's probably a better caster than 99% of the people lambasting him, but that doesn't delegitimize the complaints. You guys might be in a rare position to NOT be irritated by his voice and casting style, but you've got to open your eyes and realize that this massive influx of hatred might actually have some merit.

And seriously, I've never questioned the guy's dedication or professionalism until this whole fiasco started. It's been FIVE DAYS and he hasn't confirmed or denied anything to my knowledge. Apparently talking about YellOw's LoL team is more relevant than filling in his fans (and the rest of us) as to his current and future status as a SC2 caster. If he's working with GOM/OGN to release an official statement or whatever, that's perfectly fine. But he needs to acknowledge the situation and give an update rather than leave everyone hanging-- it's very unprofessional.

Maybe Khaldor leaked some info that Moletrap wasn't ready to share. Whatever the case may be, Moletrap's crisis management (if you can even call this a crisis) has been pathetic and, in my opinion, just furthers the case that Moletrap is not ready to be a primetime caster/commentator.

Edit: Oh, apparently Khaldor DID leak something
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 21 2012 09:29 GMT
#762
On April 21 2012 15:16 Liringlas wrote:
this guy is a horrible LoL caster... he just dosnt know what is going on half the time, an his explanation of any team fight is just to pretty much start yelling.

i mean, yeah... LoL casting is pretty sparse, especially when you compare to some of the great sc2 casters... but this kid is just bad all around.

At least he preserved his casting style while switching games.
Get off my lawn, young punks
nastyyy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States262 Posts
April 21 2012 09:51 GMT
#763
Why would we NOT take Khaldor's word? He a pretty good source.
one time
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
April 21 2012 09:59 GMT
#764
Moletrap is a cool guy, I've enjoyed his casting before in both BW and SC2, and I will in LoL. People move around. I don't see the problem here.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 11:39:56
April 21 2012 11:38 GMT
#765
I personally prefer moletrap's voice to khaldor's. I don't know but something about khaldor's voice is not very pleasing to my ears. I thought moletrap + wolf duo was kind of cool. wolf + qxc was nice (for vT matches) as well. qxc seems very knowledgeable in T match-ups (duh) and can explain them well to viewers.
Ravenimus
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia11 Posts
April 21 2012 12:00 GMT
#766
Goodluck to him I guess, he may have greater insight into the game of LoL, which they might appreciate.

He does recieve a lot of hate from pockets of the starcraft community, but at the same time he did have a fanbase from BW...

But those were deep pockets, and i think a lot of the hate came from the lack of chemistry viewers felt when he casted. You only need to watch the first season he casted with Doa to see where the disdain resonated from, and people seemed to empathise with what Doa was probably thinking. He definitely was easier to understand than that season of Milkies, but at the same time, many viewers didn't know where he was coming from with his insights and commentary; and personally he felt a little redundant imho.Perhaps one day he will find his niche in the esports community, until then i say goodluck to him!

madbringer
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland13 Posts
April 21 2012 17:00 GMT
#767
On April 21 2012 20:38 usethis2 wrote:
I personally prefer moletrap's voice to khaldor's. I don't know but something about khaldor's voice is not very pleasing to my ears. I thought moletrap + wolf duo was kind of cool. wolf + qxc was nice (for vT matches) as well. qxc seems very knowledgeable in T match-ups (duh) and can explain them well to viewers.


Oh man, i forgot all about qxc. I second this notion, Wolf+qxc was an excellent pairing. Then again, Wolf seems to make everyone look good, that guy has the ability to form an instant rapport with anyone effortlessly.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
April 21 2012 17:08 GMT
#768
Well, if people dislike moletrap, that that means something right? Especially when its the majority of fans who dislike him. While there are some things he cannot change (like his voice), there are many others he could have changed, like his poor knowledge, condescending attitude towards some players and poor chemistry with all his casters.

I don't see how most of the thread has been unconstructive. When a community is unhappy with your casting, you either quit or you work hard to change and improve. Moletrap never improved and so he should be prepared for the community's increasing dislike of his casting.

Sure hes a nice guy who has a passion for e-sports but he probably is not suited to a caster if he really can't put in effort to change his style.
Volcker
Profile Joined January 2011
France92 Posts
April 21 2012 17:30 GMT
#769
On April 21 2012 16:49 Khaldor wrote:
Deleted. Don't feed the trolls.

What did Khaldor wrote ?

I was a big fan of the Khaldor/Moletrap duo after their first cast because they had a very nice synergy, but it seems Moletrap start to annoy co-casters after a while it really shows. I remember the first Moletrap/Wolf cast as being very good, and in the following days their relationship went back to normal.

My theory is that Moletrap is a "true" nerd in the sense that he has limited social skills and can not do things that others do without thinking about it. He made lots of efforts working on that, trying to build ties with players and getting more into the scene but the way he talked about it, it was clear that it wasn't natural for him. He was an outcast among the nerds.

At least I am glad I won't see the frank hostility some co-casters showed when they couldn't bear with Moletrap's quirks anymore.

On the other hand, I'm starting to like Khaldor's casting more that Tastosis. That difference becomes so clear if you compare the GSTL caster style. Tasteless has lost his passion for SC2 and is much more interested by sex (given his dual earrings and leather jacket) while Artosis has a baby and is an endless hype machine (Alicia, Nestea, etc). Khaldor is frank and to the point, and while some might say he lacks some casting knowledge I've never noticed that. In fact I think he has the most passion among them all giving the enormous amount of energy he invests in casting (GSL, KSL, etc etc.) Even Tastosis doesn't do half of that. Oh, and Wolf is a hair fetichist.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
April 21 2012 17:37 GMT
#770
He is one of the first casters I've listen to. I remember him sayin he had no home and slept in a car, he really did it for the love. Good old times with Klaz, diggity and cholera.

Good luck in the future.
Brood War is forever
losteden
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada9 Posts
April 21 2012 22:50 GMT
#771
Thank god! Now I can resume watching GomTV again.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 23:10:09
April 21 2012 23:09 GMT
#772
Not much really happening in the community when for one week on a row "Moletrap leaves Gom" is on top of the threads.

Didn't mind him much as a caster, was ok for me, don't mind that he's going for other opportunities either. I wish him well.
But I don't understand why this is on top of the discussions for more than a week.

And yeah yeah, I know I'm contributing to it myself right now
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
boxturtle
Profile Joined December 2011
United States224 Posts
April 22 2012 13:21 GMT
#773
Did he ever get around to releasing that video?
obsidia
Profile Joined October 2010
122 Posts
April 22 2012 14:13 GMT
#774
its to be expected after the 'moletrap incident'
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
April 22 2012 14:40 GMT
#775
--- Nuked ---
DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
April 22 2012 15:33 GMT
#776
On April 22 2012 02:30 Volcker wrote:
Tasteless has lost his passion for SC2 and is much more interested by sex (given his dual earrings and leather jacket) while Artosis has a baby and is an endless hype machine (Alicia, Nestea, etc). Khaldor is frank and to the point, and while some might say he lacks some casting knowledge I've never noticed that. In fact I think he has the most passion among them all giving the enormous amount of energy he invests in casting (GSL, KSL, etc etc.) Even Tastosis doesn't do half of that. Oh, and Wolf is a hair fetichist.



What is this nonsense? Tastles is much more interested in sex because he has a jacket and piercings? Are you some kind of Ludite?
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
April 22 2012 16:35 GMT
#777
Best of luck to Moletrap on his future endeavours, if this is all factual. I don't think Khaldor should have pre-leaked anything; let it be up to Moletrap to announce whatever he would like. Show some respect for your coworkers and organization next time, and give them their ability to voice their own statements, please (Just look at the TSM incident with TheRainMan if you do not understand why it is a bad idea to have done what you did).

Also, do not take offense to this, because this is my opinion, but I feel that Moletrap, although decent, is not considered an "elite" SC2 caster in my eyes. Not too heartbroken that he has left; I hope his replacement can match some of the current GOM casters, because GOM should only contain the pinnacle of casters.
C r u m b l i n g
bropedo
Profile Joined April 2012
United States89 Posts
April 22 2012 16:37 GMT
#778
thank god

User was warned for this post
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Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
April 22 2012 19:45 GMT
#779
So, it's been almost a week since he said "i'll put up a video tomorrow to explain"?
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
April 22 2012 19:53 GMT
#780
He's currently facing hate from LoL and SC2 viewers as well as a transition from GOMTV to whoever is streaming LoL. I am fairly sure that he has other worries right now than to tweet about something that Khaldor has essentially nailed on the head, despite it being too early or whatever.

I assume if we see anything from him in the near future, it will be a long post somewhere adressing a lot of things rather than this one relatively minor issue.

Situations like this are when a man's true worth shines through, so we'll see how he handles it. With grace, dignity, and wisdom -- or pathos, disgrace, and ad hominem.
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