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coL signs GanZi - Page 11

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0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
March 28 2012 07:38 GMT
#201
Complexity soooo rich TT
frontline-
Profile Joined March 2012
Bulgaria281 Posts
March 28 2012 07:39 GMT
#202
well coL are getting a monster line up
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 07:48:32
March 28 2012 07:48 GMT
#203
Such a good pickup for coL, they've got a pretty scary roster now.
MVP on winning his Fourth GSL - "Yeah I know the routine, take the flowers and cheque, I will kiss the trophy for the photo"
klibrt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States533 Posts
March 28 2012 07:50 GMT
#204
They got a sick, solid Terran line up now :D
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 28 2012 08:11 GMT
#205
Very nice, coL should think of participating in the GSTL then.
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 08:13:52
March 28 2012 08:13 GMT
#206
Another team starting to move to completely Korean players... It's a fantastic pick up by compLexity, I just wish that somehow foreigners were able to keep up.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
March 28 2012 08:13 GMT
#207
Congrats too Col for a good pickup, might just be theire best player!
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
March 28 2012 08:22 GMT
#208
wow col. is really building up!
still i don't really understand it- ganzi is about to enlist in the army- that's why he's left slayers.
same is with nada. so even though i like their korean roaster a lot, it's still a weired choice picking up 2 players who have to serve in the army soon (at least nada wants to do that next year).
still congratz!
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
March 28 2012 08:22 GMT
#209
big pickup! Complexity getting as good group of Koreans, Have they got a korean house?
Live and Let Die!
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
March 28 2012 08:25 GMT
#210
It does seem like foreign players have no appeal or interest to the bigger teams now, It is good that the teams only care about winning, but surely the ideal goal is a foreigner who can compete with koreans?
Socke Fighting!!!!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 28 2012 08:30 GMT
#211
On March 28 2012 17:25 resilve wrote:
It does seem like foreign players have no appeal or interest to the bigger teams now, It is good that the teams only care about winning, but surely the ideal goal is a foreigner who can compete with koreans?


Eh think the only way we'll see foreigners get signed again are if for some reason sc2 progaming collapses in korea as someone in this thread mentioned or something to that affect. I think any new foreigners being signed is going to be very rare indeed unfortunately but oh well.
When I think of something else, something will go here
hyperknight
Profile Joined May 2011
294 Posts
March 28 2012 08:32 GMT
#212
rofl coL creating the ultimate mercenary team...
"you 6poll?" - aLive to IdrA on NASL Sunday Showmatch, Feb 2012
hyperknight
Profile Joined May 2011
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 08:39:03
March 28 2012 08:36 GMT
#213
The reason foreigners are of no interest to bigger teams is because of their asking salary. When someone like Sjow or Thorzain asks for a $2,000/month (hypothetical scenario) salary, why would a team with financial constraints pick him up when in fact you can pick up a Code S level player for the same amount. Would you prefer a ganzi/thestc (code S players who havent recieved a top 2 placement in GSL yet) on your team or would u prefer paying the same amount for sjow/thorzain?

The answer is simple enough


Note: The 2000 US$ amount is made up, but the actual asking prices for EU players is indeed in the same range of Korean players of Code A and Code S who have not won a GSL yet. Examples - FXO, Liquid, EG, Fnatic, now coL. Simple economics and common sense will always prevail in any business.
"you 6poll?" - aLive to IdrA on NASL Sunday Showmatch, Feb 2012
_Khandi_
Profile Joined February 2012
United States14 Posts
March 28 2012 08:51 GMT
#214
And next come Liquid`Taeja, you know it's coming people
viOLet FIGHTINGG
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
March 28 2012 08:55 GMT
#215
Well foreigners are important if you want to create attachment to your team. I can`t see that despite success Col will attain a fanbase in the range of Liquid or EG. Nevertheless signing Ganzi is a big deal for Col.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
March 28 2012 08:58 GMT
#216
very good pick up for coL
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
March 28 2012 08:59 GMT
#217
The only reason to sign Ganzi over Taeja is for a short contract as Ganzi is supposedly leaving for the military soon. Taeja has way more upside than Ganzi.
Dark supplydepo
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden103 Posts
March 28 2012 09:02 GMT
#218
Well they are mouzfood anyway. GL col and ganzi
Supreme exellence is deafeting your opponent without fighting. It is also boring
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
March 28 2012 09:08 GMT
#219
On March 28 2012 17:36 hyperknight wrote:
The reason foreigners are of no interest to bigger teams is because of their asking salary. When someone like Sjow or Thorzain asks for a $2,000/month (hypothetical scenario) salary, why would a team with financial constraints pick him up when in fact you can pick up a Code S level player for the same amount. Would you prefer a ganzi/thestc (code S players who havent recieved a top 2 placement in GSL yet) on your team or would u prefer paying the same amount for sjow/thorzain?

The answer is simple enough


Note: The 2000 US$ amount is made up, but the actual asking prices for EU players is indeed in the same range of Korean players of Code A and Code S who have not won a GSL yet. Examples - FXO, Liquid, EG, Fnatic, now coL. Simple economics and common sense will always prevail in any business.

That's an oversimplification. You can turn it around and say why should they pay a mid-tier Korean player that get ~300 viewers when he stream instead of a player like Idra that get up to 10 000 at times despite him often getting demolished by players of that calibre. A player that Ganzi haven't won many tournaments despite him being better than most foreigners. Value is a subjective thing and even if teams does premier skill, you also have to judge the markability of said player since prize money is only part of today's buinsess model for teams. In fact many teams do not rely on prize money much at all. For that reason I think we'll see foreigners remain on most teams in combination with Korean "hit squads."
windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
March 28 2012 09:13 GMT
#220
On March 28 2012 17:59 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
The only reason to sign Ganzi over Taeja is for a short contract as Ganzi is supposedly leaving for the military soon. Taeja has way more upside than Ganzi.


Ganzi has more achievements than Taeja, getting a SF in a recent GSL is not a bad feat. Also with the short contract the money constraint on coL is much smaller, meaning if he doesn't perform (and why shouldn't he?) he is "easier" to get away with. Taeja still needs to show that he can perform in non-team LAN tournaments. So he is a bigger risk than Ganzi because he has no "big" history.
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