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archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
March 06 2012 22:14 GMT
#201
wow great pickup millenium might now be the best foreigner team! They have a team house + great players + nice location in france
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Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
March 06 2012 22:15 GMT
#202
On March 07 2012 07:05 algue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 06:59 Ylrahc wrote:
On March 07 2012 06:52 dearyuna wrote:
On March 07 2012 06:47 Ylrahc wrote:
This may very well be a win-win situation for both parties. Dragon gets a team that will support him (Millenium reputation might not be that good among TL trolls & fanbois, but it's a team that keeps its promises towards the players and once they recruit them they give them full support, plus the manager Llewellys is an honest and hard-working person), he will get to live in a gaming house (slightly different from those in Korea I would expect ) and he gets to discover another continent, country and culture, which he seems to be eager too. He seems to have the character and the motivation to make it work, that's great.
Millenium gets a popular korean player who can give them access to the korean scene and maybe get some respect there, which may allow them to recruit another world class player in the future to pair with Stephano. Plus, Dragon is not exactly a complete noob either, so he'll be a great support for the team tournaments Millenium is in, and if he manages to get great solo results, it's even better for him and for the team

So good luck Dragon, I hope you'll enjoy your stay in Europe and in France !


As much as it will open up a group of Korean viewers, the intention was that with Dragon, Millenium would have more access to the NA scene as opposed to the KR scene. Like many other people have said, Millenium currently limits their site to French speaking fans. Hopefully, there will be more English content from now on and Millenium will also have more exposure in not only the EU scene but the NA scene as well with players like Dragon and Stephano.
Having said that, if Dragon attends and gets past the GSL Qualifiers (not officially confirmed, just speculation), he will be willing to compete in the KR scene as well. However, from what I understand, that is not the priority for both Millenium and Dragon. Their focus is currently on the foreign scene.

I hope this clarifies any misunderstandings ^^

Well, I was listening to the stream, and Llewellys explicitly said a reason he wanted to recruit Dragon is to get contacts in the korean scene, to potentially recruit a top world korean player later on. He even trolled a bit saying he thought last autumn that Stephano may help with the contacts part, but as Stephano is "like he is" (dunno what it means exactly, not that fluent in korean for sure, and perhaps he didn't fit / feel very well in Korea), it kinda failed
So yes, Dragon will focus his play on the foreign scene, but the fact that he is korean played in the decision to recruit him too, so Millenium gets more exposure in Korea.


I don't think Millenium's really cares about their korean fan base , their sponsor are only french/european exept MSI
And the real reason was to get a good and popular terran player not a ticket to get more korean players ^^
Dragon could have been american / european or anything else I don't think it would have change something.


Did you read the part where I said I was quoting the words of Llewellys, manager of the Millenium SC2 team ? ... and you don't read properly : it's not the korean fan base they care about, it's about the opinion of korean pros towards the Millenium team and the contacts with said pros. It's obviously not the only reason they recruited him, but it's one of them. Besides, recruiting koreans is definitely a good move to get more european / french exposure...

Considering the fact that Dragon said he would stop his pro career, read his interview : he changed his mind a while ago and actually wanted to join a foreign team so he could discover new things and get chances to play EU / US tournaments.
Shadow and dust
Hilo
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia114 Posts
March 06 2012 22:16 GMT
#203
Success guy ! :D good luck in millenium
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
March 06 2012 22:19 GMT
#204
EL HOMO FAMILIAAAA
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
March 06 2012 22:23 GMT
#205
On March 07 2012 07:14 archonOOid wrote:
wow great pickup millenium might now be the best foreigner team! They have a team house + great players + nice location in france


I don't think so. At this time, only Stephano performs really well, with Feast but he still needs to improve a lot to compete with the top tiers. Imho, Diestar is at the same level. Lalush is pretty dead right now and Tarson is not come back in his old shape yet. Adel did well by beating ToD at the PxL Lan (french lan) but still, it's not a great accomplishment ...

Teams like EG, Quantic, TL or Empire are much more solid right now.
INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
March 06 2012 22:25 GMT
#206
I forgive Dragon, and a lot of the other players who have been caught cheating in the past. But why can't the community forgive sAviOr.
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dearyuna
Profile Joined December 2011
United States322 Posts
March 06 2012 22:25 GMT
#207
On March 07 2012 07:23 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 07:14 archonOOid wrote:
wow great pickup millenium might now be the best foreigner team! They have a team house + great players + nice location in france


I don't think so. At this time, only Stephano performs really well, with Feast but he still needs to improve a lot to compete with the top tiers. Imho, Diestar is at the same level. Lalush is pretty dead right now and Tarson is not come back in his old shape yet. Adel did well by beating ToD at the PxL Lan (french lan) but still, it's not a great accomplishment ...

Teams like EG, Quantic, TL or Empire are much more solid right now.


YAY GO QUANTIC<3<3<3<3
Would be nice to see teams like Millenium compete in team leagues or something like that. Would be very interesting and fun
@dearyuna Team SCV Life <3
ImgSeeDs
Profile Joined January 2012
France5 Posts
March 06 2012 22:26 GMT
#208
Sucess Dragon ! Hope you will come at FR lans :p
Never give up !
Sagamantha
Profile Joined September 2011
United States339 Posts
March 06 2012 22:29 GMT
#209
Yeah! But does this mean Dragon is moving to France now?
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TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
March 06 2012 22:31 GMT
#210
Dragon definitely has the skills to perform well, can't wait to see him at a tourney!!

Gratz Dragon and Millennium!!
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NoctemSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States771 Posts
March 06 2012 22:31 GMT
#211
On March 07 2012 07:25 INTOtheVOID wrote:
I forgive Dragon, and a lot of the other players who have been caught cheating in the past. But why can't the community forgive sAviOr.

Stream cheating is not the same as a match fixing scandal
That's a felony in Korea. Totally different.
Not to say I don't love sAviOr.
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ColterTV
Profile Joined September 2010
Argentina163 Posts
March 06 2012 22:32 GMT
#212
As a fan and everyday watcher of Dragon's stream, I can only say Congratz !
ColterTV Stream -> http://www.twitch.tv/ColterTV
TrojanSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States82 Posts
March 06 2012 22:33 GMT
#213
I knew something was coming. I'm happy that he's finally able to get on a team, and I congratulate him for that! Even though this wasn't a team I would've expected, I'm glad he joined.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
March 06 2012 22:36 GMT
#214
Katu gave Dragon a ton of publicity
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
March 06 2012 22:40 GMT
#215
Congratz to dragon. Hopefully after IPL 4 he will start going to more tournaments. Also I thought he was just going to get a job or something, is he returning to doing starcraft full time?
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
March 06 2012 22:42 GMT
#216
Did they make an agreement with his contract that he needs duel monitors with him every time he goes to tournaments ! Too soon? J/k! Congrats to dragon :D. About time..
Getting too old for this..
dearyuna
Profile Joined December 2011
United States322 Posts
March 06 2012 22:42 GMT
#217
On March 07 2012 07:40 Balgrog wrote:
Congratz to dragon. Hopefully after IPL 4 he will start going to more tournaments. Also I thought he was just going to get a job or something, is he returning to doing starcraft full time?


He explains it in the interview.
@dearyuna Team SCV Life <3
Affluenza
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom214 Posts
March 06 2012 22:44 GMT
#218
On March 07 2012 07:23 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 07:14 archonOOid wrote:
wow great pickup millenium might now be the best foreigner team! They have a team house + great players + nice location in france


Teams like EG, Quantic, TL or Empire are much more solid right now.


None of these team are really that dominant tbh...it's like picking a winner from an average bunch...and all the team have in common is they all have that 1 player that carriers the team name into finals...but it remains purely individual basis rather then 2/3 player consistently pushing things forward.

Until all of the teams have 2-3 players in a GSL Code A&S month after month it's hard to say one team is better then another...
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 06 2012 22:46 GMT
#219
On March 07 2012 07:44 Affluenza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 07:23 Faust852 wrote:
On March 07 2012 07:14 archonOOid wrote:
wow great pickup millenium might now be the best foreigner team! They have a team house + great players + nice location in france


Teams like EG, Quantic, TL or Empire are much more solid right now.


None of these team are really that dominant tbh...it's like picking a winner from an average bunch...and all the team have in common is they all have that 1 player that carriers the team name into finals...but it remains purely individual basis rather then 2/3 player consistently pushing things forward.

Until all of the teams have 2-3 players in a GSL Code A&S month after month it's hard to say one team is better then another...



All of those teams (well maybe not EG)+Mouz, have placed consistently higher than Millenium in nearly every teamleague they've shared participation in.
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chuky500
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
France473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 23:02:12
March 06 2012 22:48 GMT
#220
On March 07 2012 06:59 Ylrahc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 06:52 dearyuna wrote:
On March 07 2012 06:47 Ylrahc wrote:
This may very well be a win-win situation for both parties. Dragon gets a team that will support him (Millenium reputation might not be that good among TL trolls & fanbois, but it's a team that keeps its promises towards the players and once they recruit them they give them full support, plus the manager Llewellys is an honest and hard-working person), he will get to live in a gaming house (slightly different from those in Korea I would expect ) and he gets to discover another continent, country and culture, which he seems to be eager too. He seems to have the character and the motivation to make it work, that's great.
Millenium gets a popular korean player who can give them access to the korean scene and maybe get some respect there, which may allow them to recruit another world class player in the future to pair with Stephano. Plus, Dragon is not exactly a complete noob either, so he'll be a great support for the team tournaments Millenium is in, and if he manages to get great solo results, it's even better for him and for the team

So good luck Dragon, I hope you'll enjoy your stay in Europe and in France !


As much as it will open up a group of Korean viewers, the intention was that with Dragon, Millenium would have more access to the NA scene as opposed to the KR scene. Like many other people have said, Millenium currently limits their site to French speaking fans. Hopefully, there will be more English content from now on and Millenium will also have more exposure in not only the EU scene but the NA scene as well with players like Dragon and Stephano.
Having said that, if Dragon attends and gets past the GSL Qualifiers (not officially confirmed, just speculation), he will be willing to compete in the KR scene as well. However, from what I understand, that is not the priority for both Millenium and Dragon. Their focus is currently on the foreign scene.

I hope this clarifies any misunderstandings ^^

Well, I was listening to the stream, and Llewellys explicitly said a reason he wanted to recruit Dragon is to get contacts in the korean scene, to potentially recruit a top world korean player later on. He even trolled a bit saying he thought last autumn that Stephano may help with the contacts part, but as Stephano is "like he is" (dunno what it means exactly, not that fluent in korean for sure, and perhaps he didn't fit / feel very well in Korea), it kinda failed
So yes, Dragon will focus his play on the foreign scene, but the fact that he is korean played in the decision to recruit him too, so Millenium gets more exposure in Korea.


I watched the stream and I didn't understand the same thing as you. I think he said Stephano didn't help him get in contact with many Koreans because "he is like he is" (he probably meant shy). So he contacted Dragon by himself, not through Stephano.

But yes he also said Dragon was more like a prospect or an underdog, and that Millenium was keeping trying to sign a recognized pro. Llewellys has teased many times for the past months that they were aiming for a pro (people were expecting players like Bling or Kas, personally I hoped for Kiwikaki). He said Terran players were either at the top, or declining so it's easier to get a Terran underdog, and maybe pick a pro from another race.

Also previously Millenium's position was to promote the french speaking community but I believe it's changed a bit with Ironsquid. Llewellys said a big tournament in France would draw the mainstream medias and since among plenty of Koreans the only french are Stephano and Tod and they are/were Millenium, journalists would be interested to hear about the team. So maybe he's thinking having a Korean in the team can help about the medias and financing too.
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