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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
February 26 2012 12:16 GMT
#41
Gom shouldn't be giving seeds in codeS in the first place. The number of foreign players that are able to compete at code S is too limited, and giving it to players that live in Korea is just weird and unfair for players that don't have the opportunity to go to foreign tournaments.
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
February 26 2012 12:17 GMT
#42
HuK and Stephano
i want polt and others too
but foreigners have identity advantage
Incredible Miracle
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#43
GOMTV talks about international seeds.. does that mean for international players, or based on international criteria?

Because if it is international players, Koreans like Polt can't get it
Else I guess it should be decided between the top players of MLG and Assembly, though I'd personally prefer fanfavorites or foreigners over Koreans that jump between Code B-S anyways. (for the drama and entertainment and the growth of esports)
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
February 26 2012 12:20 GMT
#44
On February 26 2012 20:48 Zeon0 wrote:
Winner Assembly + Top non Code S finisher MLG (probably HuK)

MKP!
Incredible Miracle
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
February 26 2012 12:21 GMT
#45
Polt and viOlet for sure.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
February 26 2012 12:23 GMT
#46
On February 26 2012 21:10 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 20:53 ragnorr wrote:
On February 26 2012 20:41 eYeball wrote:
On February 26 2012 20:40 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I think ViOLet and Polt are the two biggest candidates right now, especially if ViOLet wins Winter Arena somehow.


I agree with this also. The best foreigner we have are like HuK, Naniwa and Stephano. But like many others say Stephano don't want to go to Korea, and I don't think HuK or Naniwa should be given one really. Especially not HuK since he was just given one last GSL and lost it.

I hope Polt and someone else gets it, preferably Violet.

Huk was given code A seed a long time ago, he just dropped out of code S due to the hard format implemented in november(Dropping out in Ro16). And lost to keen in Ro16 code a and his up and down matches and then lost his first round this season

Please people .... Polt lost in the Ro32 of GSL November finishing in 3rd place and thus dropping down to the Round 2 of Code A where he lost 0-2 against ForGG.

I was reffering to the fact he said huk was given a Code A/S seed last season
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 12:31:42
February 26 2012 12:29 GMT
#47
On February 26 2012 21:16 Jetaap wrote:
Gom shouldn't be giving seeds in codeS in the first place. The number of foreign players that are able to compete at code S is too limited, and giving it to players that live in Korea is just weird and unfair for players that don't have the opportunity to go to foreign tournaments.


?

look at how many koreans qualify for mlg and assembly... don't be rediculous.

the main reason foreigners can't compete in gsl is because they're out of their comfort zone when playing in korea, on the biggest stage. it must be incredibly intimidating.

the game is still largely luck based, especially in mirror matchups - you lose 1 game and drop to code A, then lose another couple of games and you're in code B... that's stupidly harsh. the top players should definitely have the opportunity to get seeded back into codeS.... it's happened for most of the best codeS players right now.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 26 2012 12:31 GMT
#48
On February 26 2012 21:23 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 21:10 Yaki wrote:
On February 26 2012 20:53 ragnorr wrote:
On February 26 2012 20:41 eYeball wrote:
On February 26 2012 20:40 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I think ViOLet and Polt are the two biggest candidates right now, especially if ViOLet wins Winter Arena somehow.


I agree with this also. The best foreigner we have are like HuK, Naniwa and Stephano. But like many others say Stephano don't want to go to Korea, and I don't think HuK or Naniwa should be given one really. Especially not HuK since he was just given one last GSL and lost it.

I hope Polt and someone else gets it, preferably Violet.

Huk was given code A seed a long time ago, he just dropped out of code S due to the hard format implemented in november(Dropping out in Ro16). And lost to keen in Ro16 code a and his up and down matches and then lost his first round this season

Please people .... Polt lost in the Ro32 of GSL November finishing in 3rd place and thus dropping down to the Round 2 of Code A where he lost 0-2 against ForGG.

I was reffering to the fact he said huk was given a Code A/S seed last season

Yes but you gave false facts
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 12:31:50
February 26 2012 12:31 GMT
#49
On February 26 2012 21:29 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 21:16 Jetaap wrote:
Gom shouldn't be giving seeds in codeS in the first place. The number of foreign players that are able to compete at code S is too limited, and giving it to players that live in Korea is just weird and unfair for players that don't have the opportunity to go to foreign tournaments.


?

look at how many koreans qualify for mlg and assembly... don't be rediculous.

the main reason foreigners can't compete in gsl is because they're out of their comfort zone when playing in korea, on the biggest stage. it must be incredibly intimidating.


no, the reason is that the koreans are just typically much better...
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
February 26 2012 12:33 GMT
#50
On February 26 2012 21:31 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 21:29 shizna wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:16 Jetaap wrote:
Gom shouldn't be giving seeds in codeS in the first place. The number of foreign players that are able to compete at code S is too limited, and giving it to players that live in Korea is just weird and unfair for players that don't have the opportunity to go to foreign tournaments.


?

look at how many koreans qualify for mlg and assembly... don't be rediculous.

the main reason foreigners can't compete in gsl is because they're out of their comfort zone when playing in korea, on the biggest stage. it must be incredibly intimidating.


no, the reason is that the koreans are just typically much better...


they are typically much better - but huk, naniwa, ret, stephano etc are easily codeS players when they're at their best.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 26 2012 12:36 GMT
#51
On February 26 2012 21:33 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 21:31 Asha` wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:29 shizna wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:16 Jetaap wrote:
Gom shouldn't be giving seeds in codeS in the first place. The number of foreign players that are able to compete at code S is too limited, and giving it to players that live in Korea is just weird and unfair for players that don't have the opportunity to go to foreign tournaments.


?

look at how many koreans qualify for mlg and assembly... don't be rediculous.

the main reason foreigners can't compete in gsl is because they're out of their comfort zone when playing in korea, on the biggest stage. it must be incredibly intimidating.


no, the reason is that the koreans are just typically much better...


they are typically much better - but huk, naniwa, ret, stephano etc are easily codeS players when they're at their best.

It's easy to say "when they are at their best". Huk got trashed by a code a zerg in the gsl this very season so I don't expect Gom to give him a code s seed immediately
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
February 26 2012 12:39 GMT
#52
1) COCA !
- Because he is code S caliber.
- Because he did something stupid unintentionally
- Because his punishment was given by his team, not by GOM, and so there's nothing wrong with rewarding him a seed to get him back.
- Because there are likely less Zergs than other races.
- Because I like him! (most important, of course)

2) Huk if he wins MLG, otherwise Polt.

... partly because I don't think Violet would take it.
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
February 26 2012 12:41 GMT
#53
On February 26 2012 21:36 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 21:33 shizna wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:31 Asha` wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:29 shizna wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:16 Jetaap wrote:
Gom shouldn't be giving seeds in codeS in the first place. The number of foreign players that are able to compete at code S is too limited, and giving it to players that live in Korea is just weird and unfair for players that don't have the opportunity to go to foreign tournaments.


?

look at how many koreans qualify for mlg and assembly... don't be rediculous.

the main reason foreigners can't compete in gsl is because they're out of their comfort zone when playing in korea, on the biggest stage. it must be incredibly intimidating.


no, the reason is that the koreans are just typically much better...


they are typically much better - but huk, naniwa, ret, stephano etc are easily codeS players when they're at their best.

It's easy to say "when they are at their best". Huk got trashed by a code a zerg in the gsl this very season so I don't expect Gom to give him a code s seed immediately


name a codeS player that has not been trashed by a code A player in the last 2-3 seasons... i bet there aren't too many.
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
February 26 2012 12:42 GMT
#54
On February 26 2012 21:29 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 21:16 Jetaap wrote:
Gom shouldn't be giving seeds in codeS in the first place. The number of foreign players that are able to compete at code S is too limited, and giving it to players that live in Korea is just weird and unfair for players that don't have the opportunity to go to foreign tournaments.


?

look at how many koreans qualify for mlg and assembly... don't be rediculous.

the main reason foreigners can't compete in gsl is because they're out of their comfort zone when playing in korea, on the biggest stage. it must be incredibly intimidating.

the game is still largely luck based, especially in mirror matchups - you lose 1 game and drop to code A, then lose another couple of games and you're in code B... that's stupidly harsh. the top players should definitely have the opportunity to get seeded back into codeS.... it's happened for most of the best codeS players right now.


Uhm in Code S if u have to lose 2 BO3s before dropping to Code A unless u reach RO8.
Lose in RO48 Code A(which is using BO3 format as well) u drop to Code B. Lose in RO32 & 24 and you go to the Up & Down and still have a chance to qualify for Code S.
And they're still playing in booths, not too different from the ones they already tend to play in...
DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
February 26 2012 12:43 GMT
#55
On February 26 2012 21:33 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 21:31 Asha` wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:29 shizna wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:16 Jetaap wrote:
Gom shouldn't be giving seeds in codeS in the first place. The number of foreign players that are able to compete at code S is too limited, and giving it to players that live in Korea is just weird and unfair for players that don't have the opportunity to go to foreign tournaments.


?

look at how many koreans qualify for mlg and assembly... don't be rediculous.

the main reason foreigners can't compete in gsl is because they're out of their comfort zone when playing in korea, on the biggest stage. it must be incredibly intimidating.


no, the reason is that the koreans are just typically much better...


they are typically much better - but huk, naniwa, ret, stephano etc are easily codeS players when they're at their best.


bullshit.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
February 26 2012 12:44 GMT
#56
stephano should get one
he might go to korea for code S since there is a lot of money to make.

i can totally understand he declined code A seeds cause that is just a waste of time for him since he can make way more money outside of korea
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
February 26 2012 12:45 GMT
#57
On February 26 2012 21:31 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 21:23 ragnorr wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:10 Yaki wrote:
On February 26 2012 20:53 ragnorr wrote:
On February 26 2012 20:41 eYeball wrote:
On February 26 2012 20:40 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I think ViOLet and Polt are the two biggest candidates right now, especially if ViOLet wins Winter Arena somehow.


I agree with this also. The best foreigner we have are like HuK, Naniwa and Stephano. But like many others say Stephano don't want to go to Korea, and I don't think HuK or Naniwa should be given one really. Especially not HuK since he was just given one last GSL and lost it.

I hope Polt and someone else gets it, preferably Violet.

Huk was given code A seed a long time ago, he just dropped out of code S due to the hard format implemented in november(Dropping out in Ro16). And lost to keen in Ro16 code a and his up and down matches and then lost his first round this season

Please people .... Polt lost in the Ro32 of GSL November finishing in 3rd place and thus dropping down to the Round 2 of Code A where he lost 0-2 against ForGG.

I was reffering to the fact he said huk was given a Code A/S seed last season

Yes but you gave false facts

No i wasent
GSL October Huk gets third in his group, no changes
GSL November Huk gets Ro16 but dont advance, drops to Code A Code A november where he loses to keen, then in up and downs goes 1-3 and dont advance and stays in code A.
Code A season 1 Huk loses first round and goes out.
My facts are fine and huk did not recieve a Code A/S spot during this period
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 26 2012 12:50 GMT
#58
On February 26 2012 21:41 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 21:36 Yaki wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:33 shizna wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:31 Asha` wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:29 shizna wrote:
On February 26 2012 21:16 Jetaap wrote:
Gom shouldn't be giving seeds in codeS in the first place. The number of foreign players that are able to compete at code S is too limited, and giving it to players that live in Korea is just weird and unfair for players that don't have the opportunity to go to foreign tournaments.


?

look at how many koreans qualify for mlg and assembly... don't be rediculous.

the main reason foreigners can't compete in gsl is because they're out of their comfort zone when playing in korea, on the biggest stage. it must be incredibly intimidating.


no, the reason is that the koreans are just typically much better...


they are typically much better - but huk, naniwa, ret, stephano etc are easily codeS players when they're at their best.

It's easy to say "when they are at their best". Huk got trashed by a code a zerg in the gsl this very season so I don't expect Gom to give him a code s seed immediately


name a codeS player that has not been trashed by a code A player in the last 2-3 seasons... i bet there aren't too many.


fully agree. There are enough GSLs per year, that giving away 2 seeds for foreigners that then get trashed is not big, especially as most koreans that they would give it to would get trashed as well...
But for GOM it means a lot of money from people who specifically root for foreigners and there is the chance that one of those foreigners might become a solid Code S player.

Yet just giving it to a big fanfavorite like Polt or MKP would be great as well!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 26 2012 12:54 GMT
#59
Polt + Winter Arena champion, if the Winter Arena champion is already Code S then give it to Violet for winning IEM and placing well in MLG.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 12:56:11
February 26 2012 12:55 GMT
#60
- nvm, wrong thread -
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