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[Winner's Interview] GSTL - Prime vs. NSHoseo

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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 14:29:18
February 18 2012 13:55 GMT
#1
This interview was translated from (Chinese)
http://s.163.com/12/0218/19/7QIP7KLT00314D0E.html

and (Korean)
http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1103651&category=13439
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Interview
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MarineKingPrime, as MVP of Team Prime

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Q: You ended the match with an all-kill today.
A: When we were 0:2 down, I was sent to snipe San. But somehow, I just played and played and got the all-kill. I'm not sure how I did it. Even now, I still can't believe it.

Q: At 0:2 down, you seemed to be sent in earlier than expected.
A: Actually, there were two players after me who were prepared to come on. One of them is Creator. The other one is Byun. With these two dependable players as back-up, I didn't feel much stress when I was sent to play. Because of this faith in each other, I was able to achieve results that were better than expected.

Q: When was the point where you thought you could all-kill?
A: When I defeated Jjakji, I felt that our team was at an advantage. Then afterwards, when I defeated Sage, I started feeling that the games were going really smoothly for me. It was like everything I did was successful. When I went into the last game, I thought that if I could maintain the momentum I had, I would be able to get the all-kill.

Q: In the five games that you played, which was the easiest game, and which was the hardest game?
A: The easiest game was the one against Seal. My initial 2-barracks pressure was very effective and put me ahead. I thought our openings put us in an even situation. Never expected to take the game with that. (T/N: Italicised part might not be 100% accurate.)

The hardest game was the one against Jjakji. After our openings, I was quite behind, but the banshees paid off to some extent and helped me gain back some ground. After much effort, the game dragged on to a base race, and I won that with much difficulty.

Q: Was your nuclear missile in game 7 a celebration/ceremony?
A: After holding my opponent's void ray all-in, I just thought that I would win. I also guessed that because my opponent was so behind, he would not make many observers. Even though there were some thoughts of it being a celebration/ceremony, it was also the best way to make sure that I took the game.
(T/N: We really need a word for this celebration/ceremony thing. Celebramony? )

Q: Before this, you were at 4 wins and 9 losses in GSTL, putting you at a 30% win ratio.
A: I am the type of player who just can't play well under stress. That's why I tend to fall apart at big stages such as the finals.

It was the same in GSTL. Because there was this huge pressure of being the team ace, I wasn't able to play to the best of my abilities. But nowadays, the team is growing really fast, and the players are really strong. There are many other good players as back-up apart from me, so I am able to go into the game now with a more relaxed mindset.

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Q: For you personally, this is your first all-kill in GSTL.
A: I've always wanted to get an all-kill in GSTL, and I also thought that I would be able to get one. Even though I managed to get an all-kill today, there were no such thoughts in my mind as I came to the studio today, none at all.

Because I was eliminated from GSL recently, I felt really tired and never really practised properly. For today's tournament, there were many other players other than me who practised more sufficiently than me, so I really did not expect to get the all-kill. Maybe it's this relaxed mindset that allowed me to perform extraordinarily well.

Q: Who do you want to face in the winner's match? Startale or IM?
A: Even though I mentioned in a previous interview that Startale would be an easier team to play against as compared to IM, they have been a team that's constantly improving ever since the team was created. IM is still the strongest now. Anyway, no matter who we play against, it'll be an exciting and interesting match.

That said, I still wish to avoid IM, which has the player I fear most, Mvp. So I wish to play against Startale. I know Bomber really well too, and I want the two of us, the two players who have gotten all-kills before, to have a game against each other.

Q: Unfortunately, your team only managed to get the runner-up spot last season. Are you confident of winning this season?
A: Last season, even we did not think that our standard was good enough for us to reach the finals. It was pretty much a miracle. Also, we only managed to make it to the finals because at some point, some designated players at some particular occasions managed to play extraordinarily well. This season, I hope we don't have to stumble and struggle through the tournament like that, but rather, advance through the tournament based on our skills, so people can see that we are the strongest.

Q: When you were eliminated in GSL Code S round of 16, you looked really sad and downcast.
A: I was really sad. I really prepared a lot, but I still lost to DongRaeGu. It really made me very annoyed and upset. The final match against Genius was not unwinnable either, but because there was the burden and stress of it being the final match, I ended up falling apart. TvP was my most confident match-up, but I still lost. It makes me really disappointed.

I will be attending MLG, and I hope that I will be able to show at MLG my skills that I wasn't able to show at GSL.

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Q: Any last things to add?
A: Actually, Byun was supposed to play his comeback game today. He's been reflecting a lot during this period of time. He is a core player of our team, and also the strongest player. Even though he wasn't able to play today, I hope people can continue supporting him and looking forward to when he plays.

Tt eSPORTS sponsored a lot of equipment for us to use, and it's all really good and nice to use. Also, OCZ Technology gave all of us SSDs. The computer specifications for our team are generally not too good, but with all these, it's a great help to our practice.


Slightly off-topic: Pictures of Prime vs. NSHoseo can be found here - http://game.163.com/photoview/2IIQ0031/34239.html
Pictures of MVP vs. FXO can be found here - http://game.163.com/photoview/2IIQ0031/34240.html
It's a Chinese site though, but I would think looking at the pictures is a pretty straight forward process.
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Previous interviews can be found at the following links.
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Round 1

Winner of SlayerS vs. FXO - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306742

Winner of oGs vs. ZeNEX - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=307200

Winner of NSHoseo vs. StarTale - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308704

Winner of IM vs. TSL - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308932

Consolation Match : Winner of NSHoseo vs. TSL - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310978
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
zerker2strong
Profile Joined May 2011
775 Posts
February 18 2012 14:00 GMT
#2
lol the group picture an the guy with the tiger hat

on topic:

thanks for translating :D
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
February 18 2012 14:04 GMT
#3
Pretty sure that isn't a tiger zerker.

Interesting that Byun is considered the strongest player in the team - we could see a comeback from him soon.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
February 18 2012 14:08 GMT
#4
Thanks for doing these WierdKid, I was wondering - Was there not a Korean interview for Prime vs. Liquid? Would be very interested in reading that as well

Thanks again
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 18 2012 14:08 GMT
#5
thanks for the interview! glad to see they have lots of sponsor support now :D
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 18 2012 14:09 GMT
#6
On February 18 2012 23:04 SeaSwift wrote:
Pretty sure that isn't a tiger zerker.

Interesting that Byun is considered the strongest player in the team - we could see a comeback from him soon.

Well Byun was really damn good at the end of his time on zenex but drawing Oz in code A turned out to be the worst luck in the world.
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S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
February 18 2012 14:11 GMT
#7
On February 18 2012 23:04 SeaSwift wrote:
Pretty sure that isn't a tiger zerker.

Interesting that Byun is considered the strongest player in the team - we could see a comeback from him soon.


Wouldn't be surprised, he had the rank 1 and 2 spots on Korean GM on two seperate accounts not too long ago, both with a 80% win rate.
Quadratic
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada249 Posts
February 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#8
Nice sponsor upgrade to SSD's. I have one and it's awesome to have faster windows load times. SC2 maps benefit on load up as well.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
February 18 2012 14:23 GMT
#9
On February 18 2012 23:08 ELA wrote:
Thanks for doing these WierdKid, I was wondering - Was there not a Korean interview for Prime vs. Liquid? Would be very interested in reading that as well

Thanks again


Is that match in IPL? I'm not sure if they have the winner's interview for that. If they do have it though, it's probably with IPL I guess. I only know where I can find GSTL and GSL winner interviews.

Hehe and I can't translate from Korean alone I can't read Korean.
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 14:34:34
February 18 2012 14:33 GMT
#10
Yea I want to see a Byun's comeback. I always liked him as a player.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
February 18 2012 14:54 GMT
#11
On February 18 2012 23:04 SeaSwift wrote:
Pretty sure that isn't a tiger zerker.

Interesting that Byun is considered the strongest player in the team - we could see a comeback from him soon.

Byun's been pretty high on the ladder consistently with multiple accounts.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
February 18 2012 15:03 GMT
#12
Haha love that mkp still fears mvp :D
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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
February 18 2012 15:17 GMT
#13
I wonder if the return of Byun signifies the return of Puppy =)

"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
HavocGG
Profile Joined August 2010
Czech Republic113 Posts
February 18 2012 15:30 GMT
#14
I know this is sort of off-topic and I apologize, but in the pictures linked for the MVP vs. FXO match, there are pictures of NaDa in the MVP jacket and he's even in their team photo.. Did he join MVP/CoL ? I didn't see any announcement of it anywhere :o
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
February 18 2012 15:34 GMT
#15
On February 19 2012 00:30 HavocGG wrote:
I know this is sort of off-topic and I apologize, but in the pictures linked for the MVP vs. FXO match, there are pictures of NaDa in the MVP jacket and he's even in their team photo.. Did he join MVP/CoL ? I didn't see any announcement of it anywhere :o


He joined Complexity recently. Complexity recently recruited 3 new players, announced over 3 days. First guy announced was Nada, next guy is heart, third one yet to be announced I think.
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
HavocGG
Profile Joined August 2010
Czech Republic113 Posts
February 18 2012 15:35 GMT
#16
On February 19 2012 00:34 Weirdkid wrote:
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On February 19 2012 00:30 HavocGG wrote:
I know this is sort of off-topic and I apologize, but in the pictures linked for the MVP vs. FXO match, there are pictures of NaDa in the MVP jacket and he's even in their team photo.. Did he join MVP/CoL ? I didn't see any announcement of it anywhere :o


He joined Complexity recently. Complexity recently recruited 3 new players, announced over 3 days. First guy announced was Nada, next guy is heart, third one yet to be announced I think.



Ah okay, thank you ! I guess I'm not paying enough attention :D
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 18 2012 16:09 GMT
#17
LOL prime gets two all-kills in a day, maruprime boss
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
February 18 2012 18:47 GMT
#18
On February 18 2012 23:23 Weirdkid wrote:
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On February 18 2012 23:08 ELA wrote:
Thanks for doing these WierdKid, I was wondering - Was there not a Korean interview for Prime vs. Liquid? Would be very interested in reading that as well

Thanks again


Is that match in IPL? I'm not sure if they have the winner's interview for that. If they do have it though, it's probably with IPL I guess. I only know where I can find GSTL and GSL winner interviews.

Hehe and I can't translate from Korean alone I can't read Korean.



Aaaarh, of course.. I don't know how I got those two mixed up.. Guess the only place im used to seeing such awesome team battles is in the GSTL

Total brainfart on my part
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 20:04:48
February 18 2012 20:01 GMT
#19
On February 18 2012 23:00 zerker2strong wrote:
lol the group picture an the guy with the tiger hat

on topic:

thanks for translating :D


You too can get your own tiger hood at their store.

http://primezzang.net/Front/Product/?url=Product&product_no=SFSELFAA0000195&main_cate_no=AH000000&display_group=1

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Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Sanz
Profile Joined December 2010
150 Posts
February 18 2012 20:46 GMT
#20
oh man mkp wearing these tiger outfits is just priceless
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
February 18 2012 20:49 GMT
#21
On February 19 2012 05:46 Sanz wrote:
oh man mkp wearing these tiger outfits is just priceless


I was on the floor dying laughing when I saw these pics. MKP can pull off a lot of looks, but this just looks....so wrong...lmao!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 18 2012 20:52 GMT
#22
The king of marines... just finished watching the series and I'm speechless...
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
February 18 2012 20:55 GMT
#23
Prime looking very strong recently.

Can't wait for Byun to make his return, hope CoCa is right behind him <3
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
February 19 2012 06:34 GMT
#24
Oh wow. PrimeZzang sells those Tiger outfits? haha.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
February 19 2012 06:39 GMT
#25
It's pretty scary how good Prime is. Bumblebee, Bboongboong, Maru, and Creator are all good enough to make Code S next season, and possibly their best player overall, Byun, hasn't even been able to play due to the stupid Coca drama. Pretty impressive that Prime has actually gotten stronger after losing their first/second (Polt alongside MarineKing as the best two), third (HongUn), fourth (Anypro) and potentially fifth (Check) best players in a matter of months. They've really changed the whole team dynamic and have even stronger younger players to fill the gaps of the old Prime team.

I really hope Byun can get back to Code S.
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
February 19 2012 06:45 GMT
#26
On February 19 2012 15:39 Fionn wrote:
It's pretty scary how good Prime is. Bumblebee, Bboongboong, Maru, and Creator are all good enough to make Code S next season, and possibly their best player overall, Byun, hasn't even been able to play due to the stupid Coca drama. Pretty impressive that Prime has actually gotten stronger after losing their first/second (Polt alongside MarineKing as the best two), third (HongUn), fourth (Anypro) and potentially fifth (Check) best players in a matter of months. They've really changed the whole team dynamic and have even stronger younger players to fill the gaps of the old Prime team.

I really hope Byun can get back to Code S.

HongUn, Anypro, and Check all really seemed like older, one dimensional players who never really seemed to be interested in changing up their playstyle to adapt to changing conditions and to ultimately improve.

Maru, Creator, Bboong2, Byun on the other hand are younger, and recent performances seem to show that they've really adapted and improved along with the current state of players in Korea. In fact all of them really have shown so much potential in their play (Maru just yesterday with his KSL performance.

It's a refreshing thing to see and I kinda feel in maybe 4 months to a year, Prime could really come out as one of the top teams due to these aforementioned players.
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Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
February 19 2012 06:46 GMT
#27
Wow MKP says Byun is their best player, if hes been playing this whole time I actually wouldn't doubt it, reallllly hope we see byun in the GSTL.
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
February 19 2012 07:02 GMT
#28
Good interview. Everything worked out really well for MKP that night. Great that MKP got the all-kill, but it would have been cool to see Byun play his return game.
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