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Axslav and Strifecro part ways with EG - Page 31

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 19 2012 07:15 GMT
#601
Hmm that's too bad. I wonder who's going to be living in their house soon. Just incontrol and machine?
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Bullet
Profile Joined June 2010
United States280 Posts
January 19 2012 07:15 GMT
#602
kinda saw it coming. EG is a high quality team with high quality demands. Not many results out of them so it's understandable. gl to both of these players in the future! I'm sure EG will have another big name player coming to their team soon. ;]
Kich
Profile Joined April 2011
United States339 Posts
January 19 2012 07:15 GMT
#603
On January 19 2012 16:09 krews wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 14:57 herbie wrote:
SirScoots said:
I'm looking at an ROI to a brand, right. So, go look at Axlav's twitter followers, his facebook, his interaction, how he does videos.It's not negative against nick, this is the facts of business. Right, so, if a player wants to get more money from us, or wants to get more travel from us, they have to do certain things.

It doesn't seem it was about performance, but more about player popularity.


wow, thats awful


What about that is awful?

"Hey, be on our team, don't do anything, don't represent the team, don't represent yourself, don't perform well, just stay here."

What fairytale land to people live in where complete and utter apathy should be respected, rewarded, or tolerated? I know it sucks to see someone have to go, but it's not like EG is heartlessly removing them--they have legitimate reason to do so and they should if they want to progress forward and be the best.
DrunkenTemplar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia647 Posts
January 19 2012 07:18 GMT
#604
On January 19 2012 16:12 Insane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 16:09 krews wrote:
On January 19 2012 14:57 herbie wrote:
SirScoots said:
I'm looking at an ROI to a brand, right. So, go look at Axlav's twitter followers, his facebook, his interaction, how he does videos.It's not negative against nick, this is the facts of business. Right, so, if a player wants to get more money from us, or wants to get more travel from us, they have to do certain things.

It doesn't seem it was about performance, but more about player popularity.


wow, thats awful

What's awful about that? If all you care about is performance, they can perform independently of being in EG. Being in a team though involves responsibilities to sponsors and the team to represent the team, not just get results (that said, if they were bringing in major results [say, winning MLG], that would probably be good representation, but as it is they are not bringing in super good results, nor are they representing the team much)


At the very least it's ironic that a TL staffer got bashed for questioning the value of the EG team house and the performance of the lesser players, with the argument being that it takes quite a bit of time in the team house environment for results to begin to show....and then they get kicked a month or so later.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
January 19 2012 07:20 GMT
#605
Well it was to be expected, don't think I've seen either ever win a game.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 19 2012 07:21 GMT
#606
On January 19 2012 16:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Hmm that's too bad. I wonder who's going to be living in their house soon. Just incontrol and machine?


Demuslim and Anna, but I'm also wondering if this means there are more potential recruits for the EG Lair.
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Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
January 19 2012 07:25 GMT
#607
On January 19 2012 16:15 Kich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 16:09 krews wrote:
On January 19 2012 14:57 herbie wrote:
SirScoots said:
I'm looking at an ROI to a brand, right. So, go look at Axlav's twitter followers, his facebook, his interaction, how he does videos.It's not negative against nick, this is the facts of business. Right, so, if a player wants to get more money from us, or wants to get more travel from us, they have to do certain things.

It doesn't seem it was about performance, but more about player popularity.


wow, thats awful


What about that is awful?

"Hey, be on our team, don't do anything, don't represent the team, don't represent yourself, don't perform well, just stay here."

What fairytale land to people live in where complete and utter apathy should be respected, rewarded, or tolerated? I know it sucks to see someone have to go, but it's not like EG is heartlessly removing them--they have legitimate reason to do so and they should if they want to progress forward and be the best.

Also, I think it's that players have to show EITHER results or popularity. I mean, InC doesn't have the best torunament results atm but he is one of the most out-there, prolific progamers.
For example JYP and Puma aren't very outgoing or (foreign)-community mainstays, but they are good.
Add to to that the fact, that with good results there usually comes popularity, I would still see this as a performance-related thing.
AoDSupreme
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom4 Posts
January 19 2012 07:29 GMT
#608
for everyone saying Lz gamer shoudl have been gone im pretty sure Lz has been doing alot more recently alot more streams is higher in hsi leagues and is also doing really good for himself and was there not news of machine and demuslim going to korea soon ?
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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
January 19 2012 07:36 GMT
#609
i am curious to see where they go

given how many koreans are free agents atm, it seems unlikely they will get picked up by a sick team that pays well.

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ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
January 19 2012 07:42 GMT
#610
I am sad for Axslav. He has lots of viewers on stream and he constantly qualifies for tournaments. O think he is better than many in the EG house. I am sad...
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
...what
Profile Joined April 2011
England94 Posts
January 19 2012 07:42 GMT
#611
If incontrol has plans to go to korea some time and demuslim is going for the next season, anyone think this might be EG moving towards getting rid of the Arizona house?

/speculation
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
January 19 2012 07:47 GMT
#612
well no surprise here. EG is the most capitaslistic company involved in esports. I'd say good for them, now they can find a good team, but I'm not so sure about that since they both didn't really show any results
Shyndashu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States136 Posts
January 19 2012 07:48 GMT
#613
actually enjoy watching lzgamers stream. strifecro and axslav i can understand but lzgamers actually pretty good. even better than machine imo.
EZSkull
Profile Joined March 2011
United States230 Posts
January 19 2012 07:51 GMT
#614
Just love the random hate some players get. You see two players get released from a team and it's like automatically people want to find someone else they would have thrown off the team instead. Kind of sad, at least IMO it is.
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TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
January 19 2012 07:52 GMT
#615
I guess they haven't had the best results lately, but I met Axslav and Machine at a local LAN and they were both super nice and played well in the tournament. They even took the time to talk to me before they headed out. In both their attitude and work ethic they were great ambassadors for EG! (I imagine this is true for Strifecro as well)

But results are also important. Hopefully Axslav will still stream. Good luck to both of them for the future!
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ThemBones
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark10 Posts
January 19 2012 07:55 GMT
#616
Well, pretty expected, you can't keep signing bigger and bigger names (although JYP has been disappointing so far imo) and still keep a 'b' team (unless you're a Korean team) that doesn't win tournaments. Pretty sure Axslav will have no problems ahead, his knowledge of the game seems pretty immense.
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Benga
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)471 Posts
January 19 2012 07:56 GMT
#617
lz in death row
hi
lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
January 19 2012 08:01 GMT
#618
sad two see both players go, hope they will find a nice team to go on
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
January 19 2012 08:01 GMT
#619
In all honesty Im suprised it didn't happen earlier. They haven't performed almost at all while being on one of the biggest teams. All while having the opportunity to go anywhere, practise with the best and live in a teamhouse. As sad as it may be this is what will happen in the end.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 19 2012 08:12 GMT
#620
More easy to buy talent then to make one.

Kinda liked Axslav, he seemed to get better and better aswell to bad he did not have the personality that Incontrol has, because let's be honest he's the better player of the two.

Goodluck guys i hope you find a nice team.
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