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Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
January 18 2012 19:05 GMT
#41
I'm asking myself why so many players want to leave TSL, every player gave a fairly good reason, but the malaise seems to be much deeper than that, and nobody wants let the cat out of the bag.

Am I wrong ? Because i read in many posts that the team isn't struggling in term of sponsors (unlike Prime for ex.), they give salaries, and basically money doesnt seems to be a major issue. (Or maybe players are too respectful/polite to just say something like "Coach Lee is a dick.")
I have to return some videotapes.
Guamshin
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands295 Posts
January 18 2012 19:08 GMT
#42
On January 19 2012 03:46 valaki wrote:
So any notable players left in TSL?

On January 19 2012 03:44 pStar wrote:
Goodbye TSL

You were my favourite team

There has to be something else going on here, behind the scenes.


On January 19 2012 03:44 Bagration wrote:
Are there any teams interested in acquiring him right now?

I think the departure of aLive and heart might have been the death knell toTSL.



Don't act like a drama queen, TSL still has plenty of players and they just signed Hyun and Cyrano.
There is no reason for TSL to disband.

People say the same about zenex, just because they lost most of their "star" players they think it's gonna disband. Please stop this bullshit.
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aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
January 18 2012 19:08 GMT
#43
So are we still trying to deny something is wrong in the TSL-house? Its starting to get out of control with all these players leaving.....
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
January 18 2012 19:08 GMT
#44
Poor TSL. I'm glad polt hyun and cyrano are still with them though. Hopefully all the recent leavings doesn't kill them =/
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
January 18 2012 19:13 GMT
#45
Liquid sign Heart!
Eat emmmmmmmmmm
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
January 18 2012 19:15 GMT
#46
Both Alive and Heart cite issues with the living conditions or team/manager interactions for their reasons for leaving. I think we can at least make an educated guess that something is up with TSL .
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 18 2012 19:16 GMT
#47
Not much of a loss as this guy would not probably stay long in the GSL. GL playing Bomber :p
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 19:18:21
January 18 2012 19:17 GMT
#48
You could say that TSL just lost their Heart...... YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

They still have Polt, HyuN and RevivaL. Hopefully he(coach Lee) can fetch some A-teamers from BW
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 18 2012 19:18 GMT
#49
On January 19 2012 03:48 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 03:46 iYiYi wrote:
[B]On January 19 2012 03:42 VirgilSC2 wrote:
[center]much like Sheth when leaving FXO/center]

How is Sheth leaving Korea after a couple of weeks anything like heart leaving TSL?


Was wondering that too. Please clarify.


We likely arn't going to know. Though if you look at the aLive interview, it appears coach Lee likes to watch their skype to make sure they arn't talking to people about leaving the team. We can only imagine how he was with a player from another team in the house, directly interacting with other his players.
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Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
January 18 2012 19:18 GMT
#50
On January 19 2012 04:08 Guamshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 03:46 valaki wrote:
So any notable players left in TSL?

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 03:44 pStar wrote:
Goodbye TSL

You were my favourite team

There has to be something else going on here, behind the scenes.


Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 03:44 Bagration wrote:
Are there any teams interested in acquiring him right now?

I think the departure of aLive and heart might have been the death knell toTSL.



Don't act like a drama queen, TSL still has plenty of players and they just signed Hyun and Cyrano.
There is no reason for TSL to disband.

People say the same about zenex, just because they lost most of their "star" players they think it's gonna disband. Please stop this bullshit.


Wow you have to relax... you are the only one really blowing anything out of proportion here with that incredibly defensive response. You don't know any better than them if players will continue to leave from TSL (which seems very likely with how things have been going)... or maybe you do, in which case please inform us.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 18 2012 19:24 GMT
#51
On January 19 2012 04:15 shindigs wrote:
Both Alive and Heart cite issues with the living conditions or team/manager interactions for their reasons for leaving. I think we can at least make an educated guess that something is up with TSL .

The way Coach Lee acts in public, I wouldn't be surprised if he is the reason for many players leaving.
bLooD.
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany470 Posts
January 18 2012 19:26 GMT
#52
So i guess TSL is dead.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
January 18 2012 19:27 GMT
#53
Polt needs to jump ship, ASAP. oGs? They recently lost a star and could use one.
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
January 18 2012 19:27 GMT
#54
Oh man.. this is looking really bad for TSL.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
January 18 2012 19:27 GMT
#55
On January 19 2012 04:24 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 04:15 shindigs wrote:
Both Alive and Heart cite issues with the living conditions or team/manager interactions for their reasons for leaving. I think we can at least make an educated guess that something is up with TSL .

The way Coach Lee acts in public, I wouldn't be surprised if he is the reason for many players leaving.

Every Kor team is losing players left and right if you haven't noticed
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
January 18 2012 19:28 GMT
#56
What's happening to TSL? The coach was also the ex-coach for MBCGame in Hyungjoon becomes a progamer and he seemed really nice... but all these people leaving can't be coincidence.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 19:29:58
January 18 2012 19:29 GMT
#57
On January 19 2012 04:27 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 04:24 00Visor wrote:
On January 19 2012 04:15 shindigs wrote:
Both Alive and Heart cite issues with the living conditions or team/manager interactions for their reasons for leaving. I think we can at least make an educated guess that something is up with TSL .

The way Coach Lee acts in public, I wouldn't be surprised if he is the reason for many players leaving.

Every Kor team is losing players left and right if you haven't noticed

TSL (don't need me to list them out), oGs (primarily MC), MVP (GuineaPig?), SlayerS (Sleep, Dragon, Golden), Prime (Check, HongUn, Maka, I'm forgetting someone else I feel) ...

ST seems to be doing relatively well though Trickster and Max went to the army, as is NsHS. Dunno about ZeNEX; they lost a lot a while back. FXO doing well too, though there was a transfer of sC to MVP?
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 19:29:54
January 18 2012 19:29 GMT
#58
All teams are losing some B class players it seems like, but TSL is losing more than any other, and not just B players. It can't just be coincidence. There has to be a reason for this, no?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
January 18 2012 19:31 GMT
#59
what the hell happened to TSL exactly?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Guamshin
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands295 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 19:32:43
January 18 2012 19:31 GMT
#60
On January 19 2012 04:18 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 04:08 Guamshin wrote:
On January 19 2012 03:46 valaki wrote:
So any notable players left in TSL?

On January 19 2012 03:44 pStar wrote:
Goodbye TSL

You were my favourite team

There has to be something else going on here, behind the scenes.


On January 19 2012 03:44 Bagration wrote:
Are there any teams interested in acquiring him right now?

I think the departure of aLive and heart might have been the death knell toTSL.



Don't act like a drama queen, TSL still has plenty of players and they just signed Hyun and Cyrano.
There is no reason for TSL to disband.

People say the same about zenex, just because they lost most of their "star" players they think it's gonna disband. Please stop this bullshit.


Wow you have to relax... you are the only one really blowing anything out of proportion here with that incredibly defensive response. You don't know any better than them if players will continue to leave from TSL (which seems very likely with how things have been going)... or maybe you do, in which case please inform us.


Im not blowing it out of proportion, i just gave my opinion about the whole "TSL is gonna disband" talk.
Personally i think its unlikely that more players will just leave like this. If there really is something weird going on then and everyone leaves then yeah. Obviously it will disband.

However Revival has been on the team for a very long time and he hasn't left yet, TSL doesn't seem to have any problems with sponsors or money in general, and like i said they just signed 2 players.

I really doubt it that Coach Lee is an asshole, he used to be the MBC game hero coach and had the reputation of being really nice, in interviews he also seems to be a very nice guy.

I think the reason why some players are leaving is because Lee might be very strict with practice schedules, and that those players are just looking for teams that give a better salary.
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