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Guamshin
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands295 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 19:33:04
January 18 2012 19:32 GMT
#61
Oops double post.
Delete please.
Weeeee
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
January 18 2012 19:32 GMT
#62
Oh man, TSL losing players left and right.Seems like most of the guys leaving just weren't comfortable with the new practise regime. TSL should be fine. They have Polt and some up and coming players.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 18 2012 19:33 GMT
#63
On January 19 2012 03:46 valaki wrote:
So any notable players left in TSL?

Hyun, Polt, and Revival
BreakeR.
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria220 Posts
January 18 2012 19:34 GMT
#64
Really sad days for TSL. :/
GL Heart!!!!
The hardest part about being smart is accepting that others are stupid. -Tasteless
dib
Profile Joined July 2011
95 Posts
January 18 2012 19:37 GMT
#65
calling in right now


TSL.Juanito!!!!!!!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 18 2012 19:39 GMT
#66
On January 19 2012 04:31 Guamshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 04:18 Chicane wrote:
On January 19 2012 04:08 Guamshin wrote:
On January 19 2012 03:46 valaki wrote:
So any notable players left in TSL?

On January 19 2012 03:44 pStar wrote:
Goodbye TSL

You were my favourite team

There has to be something else going on here, behind the scenes.


On January 19 2012 03:44 Bagration wrote:
Are there any teams interested in acquiring him right now?

I think the departure of aLive and heart might have been the death knell toTSL.



Don't act like a drama queen, TSL still has plenty of players and they just signed Hyun and Cyrano.
There is no reason for TSL to disband.

People say the same about zenex, just because they lost most of their "star" players they think it's gonna disband. Please stop this bullshit.


Wow you have to relax... you are the only one really blowing anything out of proportion here with that incredibly defensive response. You don't know any better than them if players will continue to leave from TSL (which seems very likely with how things have been going)... or maybe you do, in which case please inform us.


Im not blowing it out of proportion, i just gave my opinion about the whole "TSL is gonna disband" talk.
Personally i think its unlikely that more players will just leave like this. If there really is something weird going on then and everyone leaves then yeah. Obviously it will disband.

However Revival has been on the team for a very long time and he hasn't left yet, TSL doesn't seem to have any problems with sponsors or money in general, and like i said they just signed 2 players.

I really doubt it that Coach Lee is an asshole, he used to be the MBC game hero coach and had the reputation of being really nice, in interviews he also seems to be a very nice guy.

I think the reason why some players are leaving is because Lee might be very strict with practice schedules, and that those players are just looking for more money.


I doubt that is the reason. These players want to play, but there seems to be an issue with Coach Lee. He operated under Kespa previously and from my understanding of the leauge, a lot of these issues might never have come up since the legue rules were so strict. He might not be used to the idea that he has to work to keep his players, which is what you need to do. Nice or not, he seems to run to the media when he should just handle the matter in private.

And players looking for more money is a valid reason. If you arn't paying them well and they can make more someplace else, you better be offering them something they can't get elsewhere. If you can't and just want to rely on the contract to lock the player down for the rest of the term, don't be shocked if they want to break it early.
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dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
January 18 2012 19:39 GMT
#67
So TSL lost: Puma, Fruitdealer, Trickster, Rain, JYP, Alive and Heart over 6 months. Out of which 5 cases resulted in drama. Interesting.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 18 2012 19:40 GMT
#68
Hyun is their best shot, give him time and make sure he stays happy with the team, he will pay off in the end.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 19:40 GMT
#69
On January 19 2012 04:39 dubRa wrote:
So TSL lost: Puma, Fruitdealer, Trickster, Rain, JYP, Alive and Heart over 6 months. Out of which 5 cases resulted in drama. Interesting.

You forgot SangHo and Clide.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Daenks
Profile Joined December 2011
United States82 Posts
January 18 2012 19:41 GMT
#70
On January 19 2012 03:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 03:48 SpiZe wrote:
So who is left on TSL now

(T)Polt ■ (T)Ultimate ■ (Z)RevivaL ■ (Z)Shine ■ (Z)Symbol ■ (Z)HyuN ■ (Z)RagnaroK ■ Dream ■ (P)Cyrano


still a good lineup
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Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
January 18 2012 19:41 GMT
#71
The first 3 times TSL lost players it was fishy...but now?
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
January 18 2012 19:41 GMT
#72
>.< i hope for the sake of mamabear, that polt, revival, hyun, and the rest, do really well, and manage to prove that it's not TSL that's the problem, it's just people having differences with the practice regimen.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
January 18 2012 19:41 GMT
#73
Maybe they will pick up XiGua, would be cool, but the language barrier would be even harder than usual I think.
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dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
January 18 2012 19:41 GMT
#74
On January 19 2012 04:40 GreEny K wrote:
Hyun is their best shot, give him time and make sure he stays happy with the team, he will pay off in the end.


You mean he will pay the contract termination fee.
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
January 18 2012 19:42 GMT
#75
Maybe they will pick up Major now. They could probably use the manpower. And from what I understand, he has been practicing in their house for a while now. Maybe I'm wrong and he left already though. If not, TSLMajOr. Calling it.
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
January 18 2012 19:43 GMT
#76
damn, TSL

poor Coach Lee
i love you
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
January 18 2012 19:44 GMT
#77
the reasoning was that he didn't like a team house environment and left a while ago, what's the big deal here? it's just a badly timed announcement given recent events.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 19:44:35
January 18 2012 19:44 GMT
#78
On January 19 2012 04:42 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Maybe they will pick up Major now. They could probably use the manpower. And from what I understand, he has been practicing in their house for a while now. Maybe I'm wrong and he left already though. If not, TSLMajOr. Calling it.

I'm pretty sure he's back in Mexico and joined CheckSix. Might be wrong, though.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
3DGlaDOS
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany607 Posts
January 18 2012 19:44 GMT
#79
Coach Lee seemed so nice to me :/
Hello Sir, do you have a minute for atheism?
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 19:44 GMT
#80
On January 19 2012 04:41 how wrote:
Maybe they will pick up XiGua, would be cool, but the language barrier would be even harder than usual I think.

XiGua probably won't leave iG in the foreseeable future, if ever.
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