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theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
January 15 2012 17:41 GMT
#161
On January 16 2012 02:38 havox_ wrote:
Who is hyping him? ppl just love to see their legend back in serious business, quite normal i would say^^

I guess so.

But people who are hyping him thinking that he will dominate the scene, I think they'll be disappointed at least for the near future.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Loki57
Profile Joined February 2011
United States292 Posts
January 15 2012 17:42 GMT
#162
On January 16 2012 02:37 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:30 Loki57 wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:22 theBALLS wrote:
I don't understand the hype behind moon. He was a legendary WC3 player (like grubby), and he hasn't shown much results thus far.

Being a WC3 legend =/= an SC2 legend (for example Grubby, at least not yet)

Truly spoken like somebody who has no idea what they're talking about lol. His accomplishments have already been listed and those all happened while he was only playing sc2 part time. Somebody as good as Moon was obviously has an incredible talent for RTS in general; he will be great at Sc2 too.

I know he has results.

I'm just saying, people are hyping him like he's MVP or Nestea.

He's good, but it's an overhype imo.

The thing is those results happened when he was only devoting half of his time to the game, so it'd be reasonable to assume he could achieve an extremely high level if he was 100% on SC2.
"Dedication without talent is a daydream. Talent without dedication is a nightmare."
Gov
Profile Joined November 2010
United States121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 17:48:48
January 15 2012 17:47 GMT
#163
On January 16 2012 02:37 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:30 Loki57 wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:22 theBALLS wrote:
I don't understand the hype behind moon. He was a legendary WC3 player (like grubby), and he hasn't shown much results thus far.

Being a WC3 legend =/= an SC2 legend (for example Grubby, at least not yet)

Truly spoken like somebody who has no idea what they're talking about lol. His accomplishments have already been listed and those all happened while he was only playing sc2 part time. Somebody as good as Moon was obviously has an incredible talent for RTS in general; he will be great at Sc2 too.

I know he has results.

I'm just saying, people are hyping him like he's MVP or Nestea.

He's good, but it's an overhype imo.

How dare someone like a player more then his skill warrants them too. Especially a legend like moon was in WC3.

Anyways, I'm really excited to see what moon can do given his background at foreign events. Hopefully he does not disappoint.
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djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
January 15 2012 17:50 GMT
#164
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:26 Eee wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:22 theBALLS wrote:
I don't understand the hype behind moon. He was a legendary WC3 player (like grubby), and he hasn't shown much results thus far.

Being a WC3 legend =/= an SC2 legend (for example Grubby, at least not yet)

He hasnt? if you're going to write stuff like that do your homework first son!


2nd place at Dreamhack Summer (eliminated Bomber in the semis!)
2nd place at IEM WC (ahead of Idra, Squirtle, Sjow, White ra etc.)
2nd place at China 3D Electronic Games (beat MC and Nada)
2nd place at IPL Pacific (placing ahead of the like of MC, Sase, Naniwa, Sen etc.

Yeah, that's still not hypeworthy. It'd be interesting if he was actually going to commit full time to one game.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#165
On January 16 2012 02:07 CHOMPMannER wrote:
who cares if its not flash or jaedong


Who cares about Starcraft anyway? Who cares about life anyway? We're all going to die in the end anyway.

It seems like it is going to be Moon, unless the image was a red herring.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 18:25:42
January 15 2012 18:11 GMT
#166
On January 16 2012 02:42 Loki57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:37 theBALLS wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:30 Loki57 wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:22 theBALLS wrote:
I don't understand the hype behind moon. He was a legendary WC3 player (like grubby), and he hasn't shown much results thus far.

Being a WC3 legend =/= an SC2 legend (for example Grubby, at least not yet)

Truly spoken like somebody who has no idea what they're talking about lol. His accomplishments have already been listed and those all happened while he was only playing sc2 part time. Somebody as good as Moon was obviously has an incredible talent for RTS in general; he will be great at Sc2 too.

I know he has results.

I'm just saying, people are hyping him like he's MVP or Nestea.

He's good, but it's an overhype imo.

The thing is those results happened when he was only devoting half of his time to the game, so it'd be reasonable to assume he could achieve an extremely high level if he was 100% on SC2.


after 3 months of focusing on sc2, he will be 100% better than nestea. i can guarantee you that.

Look at players like Kas, Thorzain, Demuslim, Stephano, violet, naniwa, sase... while they were good in wc3 and wc3 skill doenst translate 100% to sc2 (dont come with grubby - he said himself hes a very slow learner and he played orc after all and hes still pretty good already), Moon was at LEAST heavily favored vs all of them at all times.

ofc he will be a great sc2 player and in future better than Nestea (dont compare nestea to MVP please...) when he switches fulltime and doesnt play wc3 anymore.
He already was 2nd at dreamhack and only beaten by HuK and honestly, he shouldve won that final if it wasnt for that strange thaldarim version.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
January 15 2012 18:13 GMT
#167
On January 16 2012 02:37 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:30 Loki57 wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:22 theBALLS wrote:
I don't understand the hype behind moon. He was a legendary WC3 player (like grubby), and he hasn't shown much results thus far.

Being a WC3 legend =/= an SC2 legend (for example Grubby, at least not yet)

Truly spoken like somebody who has no idea what they're talking about lol. His accomplishments have already been listed and those all happened while he was only playing sc2 part time. Somebody as good as Moon was obviously has an incredible talent for RTS in general; he will be great at Sc2 too.

I know he has results.

I'm just saying, people are hyping him like he's MVP or Nestea.

He's good, but it's an overhype imo.


And then, who isn't overhyped in that regard
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 15 2012 18:13 GMT
#168
On January 16 2012 03:11 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:42 Loki57 wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:37 theBALLS wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:30 Loki57 wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:22 theBALLS wrote:
I don't understand the hype behind moon. He was a legendary WC3 player (like grubby), and he hasn't shown much results thus far.

Being a WC3 legend =/= an SC2 legend (for example Grubby, at least not yet)

Truly spoken like somebody who has no idea what they're talking about lol. His accomplishments have already been listed and those all happened while he was only playing sc2 part time. Somebody as good as Moon was obviously has an incredible talent for RTS in general; he will be great at Sc2 too.

I know he has results.

I'm just saying, people are hyping him like he's MVP or Nestea.

He's good, but it's an overhype imo.

The thing is those results happened when he was only devoting half of his time to the game, so it'd be reasonable to assume he could achieve an extremely high level if he was 100% on SC2.


after 3 months of focusing on sc2, he will be 100% better than nestea. i can garatuee you that.

Look at players like Kas, Thorzain, Demuslim, Stephano, violet... while they were good in wc3 and wc3 skill doenst translate 100% to sc2 (dont come with grubby - he said himself hes a very slow learner and he played orc after all and hes still pretty good already), Moon was at LEAST heavily favored vs all of them at all times.

ofc he will be a great sc2 player and in future better than Nestea (dont compare nestea to MVP please...) when he switches fulltime and doesnt play wc3 anymore.
He already was 2nd at dreamhack and only beaten by HuK and honestly, he shouldve won that final if it wasnt for that strange thaldarim version.

Dont forget Naniwa and Sase!
ScaSully
Profile Joined April 2011
United States488 Posts
January 15 2012 18:14 GMT
#169
hope its a bw pro i would shit my pants
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 18:15:22
January 15 2012 18:15 GMT
#170
Would certainly be interested in seeing Moon if he comitted to SC2, but he's never going to be at the very top without doing so. On the other hand if he does, would love to see just how far he can go.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 15 2012 18:18 GMT
#171
Poll: Is it moon?

Yes (66)
 
78%

No (19)
 
22%

85 total votes

Your vote: Is it moon?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
January 15 2012 18:19 GMT
#172
Definitely Moon
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
January 15 2012 18:20 GMT
#173
I'm going to guess Sangho.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 18:23:41
January 15 2012 18:21 GMT
#174
Ever since I saw ThePortraitArt's videos, I've been trying to work on my art skills again, and one of the people I tried drawing was Moon (he has... simple enough facial features ).

He looks a lot like my really bad sketches, just saying...

+ Show Spoiler +
fuck it, its not true.
I'll never be able to draw
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
January 15 2012 18:25 GMT
#175
oooo im excited ^^
My religion is Starcraft
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
January 15 2012 18:25 GMT
#176
I dont see why it should be Moon, didnt he switch to sc2 like a year ago or am i completely mistaking him for someone else?
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
January 15 2012 18:25 GMT
#177
Well if it is moon, i hope he would switch to protoss or terran so he can make use of his amazing micro.
ePLocust
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States587 Posts
January 15 2012 18:27 GMT
#178
I'm guessing a korean protoss reading the tweets
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
January 15 2012 18:28 GMT
#179
On January 16 2012 03:11 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:42 Loki57 wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:37 theBALLS wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:30 Loki57 wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:22 theBALLS wrote:
I don't understand the hype behind moon. He was a legendary WC3 player (like grubby), and he hasn't shown much results thus far.

Being a WC3 legend =/= an SC2 legend (for example Grubby, at least not yet)

Truly spoken like somebody who has no idea what they're talking about lol. His accomplishments have already been listed and those all happened while he was only playing sc2 part time. Somebody as good as Moon was obviously has an incredible talent for RTS in general; he will be great at Sc2 too.

I know he has results.

I'm just saying, people are hyping him like he's MVP or Nestea.

He's good, but it's an overhype imo.

The thing is those results happened when he was only devoting half of his time to the game, so it'd be reasonable to assume he could achieve an extremely high level if he was 100% on SC2.


after 3 months of focusing on sc2, he will be 100% better than nestea. i can garatuee you that.

Look at players like Kas, Thorzain, Demuslim, Stephano, violet... while they were good in wc3 and wc3 skill doenst translate 100% to sc2 (dont come with grubby - he said himself hes a very slow learner and he played orc after all and hes still pretty good already), Moon was at LEAST heavily favored vs all of them at all times.

ofc he will be a great sc2 player and in future better than Nestea (dont compare nestea to MVP please...) when he switches fulltime and doesnt play wc3 anymore.
He already was 2nd at dreamhack and only beaten by HuK and honestly, he shouldve won that final if it wasnt for that strange thaldarim version.


Moon was focusing on just SC2 for more than three months when was in GSL and a part of Wemade. The only reason he went back to WC3 was to compete in WCG and now that is over he is back to SC2. Why was it he couldn't get to the top then?

Moon has the potential to be the best in the world but I don't see that being realized under the fnatic tag. Fnatic is a sinking ship and they have no team facility or partnership in Korea for Moon to fully dedicate. He could do better on another team but I could see that limiting his chances of going to international tournaments.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 15 2012 18:31 GMT
#180
On January 16 2012 03:15 Iyerbeth wrote:
Would certainly be interested in seeing Moon if he comitted to SC2, but he's never going to be at the very top without doing so. On the other hand if he does, would love to see just how far he can go.

I don't think he'll ever reach the level he was at when at his War3 prime simply because his attention is divided now between progaming and his family, but I think he'll be pretty damn good if he devotes more time to SC2. His IPL 2nd was apparently won on the tail of very little practice, so if he puts more time in the game, he should be at least solid Code A level. He was in pretty bad shape in War3 when I saw him last, so maybe he was shifting his practice time around a bit. Either that or taking a vacation from the game, lol. Idk. He doesn't practice as much as he did way back in the day, and that practice was a good deal of what made him so good in War3.

I'm still not convinced he is doing SC2 full-time, but we'll see in two days.
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