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InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
January 11 2012 20:10 GMT
#161
Oh no, Naniwa is Korean.
GraphicsInsidiA | StarCraft 2 Manager for Team eLevate | Graphic Designer for Red Bull eSports & HTC | @iamjasonpun
HaCkTeR
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile29 Posts
January 11 2012 20:11 GMT
#162
On January 12 2012 04:51 vileIllusion wrote:
No offense to qxc, he's a great player but was wondering how he was selected as an alternative invite?


i think for these seeds

http://www.nationalesl.com/us/sc2/go4sc2/kiev_championship/rankings/

maybe Attero or Strifecro didn't accept... who know..
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 20:15:17
January 11 2012 20:14 GMT
#163
The groups are well spread, I like this lineup.

Mark my words: if Naniwa will take it too easily for an instant, Titan will beat him.

edit:grammar
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Vildhjarta
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden126 Posts
January 11 2012 20:15 GMT
#164
On January 12 2012 00:32 Fyzar wrote:
Hmm, my predictions;
Group A
NaNiwa
Beastyqt

Group B
Grubby
Kas

Group C
HasuObs
MMA

Group D
Feast
HerO

e; this was supposed to be an edit -.- sorry about that


voting grubby over kas. wat? check country. ahhh netherlands there we go.
No man has ever been entirely and completely himself. Yet each one strives to become that, one in an awkward, the other in a more intelligent way, each as best he can. - Hermann Hesse, Demian
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
January 11 2012 20:16 GMT
#165
On January 12 2012 05:10 InsidiA wrote:
Oh no, Naniwa is Korean.


So? Huk and Jinro have been invited through the Korean Invites multiple times in IEM. I really don't see the point in these posts as the invites are completely dependent on where you are living...
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 11 2012 20:18 GMT
#166
+ Show Spoiler [My predictions for anybody who cares] +
Group A
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(T)Beastyqt
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(Z)Killer
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(P)NaNiwa

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(P)TitaN

+ Show Spoiler +
Everybody in this group is really solid, but none of them (barring NaNi of course) stick out as players who you expect to make deep tournament runs. NaNi should definitely win this and while I generally would say Beasty, after watching TitaN dismantle SuperNoVa 2-0 at WCG, I think I'm confident that he can win. I wouldn't be too surprised seeing Beasty get second here, but TitaN's TvP is scary. I doubt KiLLeR will stand much of a chance, he's good, but these guys are better.

Group B
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(T)DieStar
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(P)Grubby

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(T)Kas

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(Z)Zenio
+ Show Spoiler +
Grubby and Kas are two of the most solid European players of their respective races and, despite Zenio being really good, I think that they both have what it takes to take him down. Grubby's PvZ looked really good at HomeStory Cup and Kas has always been one of the most solid players. Zenio might be the favorite but this group is really good.


Group C
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(P)HasuObs

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(T)MMA

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(P)Pomi
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(Z)TargA
+ Show Spoiler +
If MMA does not get out of this group I think everybody will be surprised. I can't say I've ever actually seen Pomi play, but that doesn't speak very much to his credibility. TargA definitely stands a shot at defeating the other two non-MMA players this group, but having only seen him in the NASL Open tournament I'm not entirely convinced. Hasu is super solid and is the only player in this group who I could possibly see beating MMA (namely because MMA's TvP is eh by his standards and Hasu's PvT is gosu). MMA and then either Hasu or TargA, but probably Hasu (mouz fighting!)


Group D
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(Z)DIMAGA

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(P)Feast
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(P)HerO

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(T)qxc
+ Show Spoiler +
Feast doesn't have the experience of the other players in this group, qxc has been studying recently (I believe), plus DIMAGA and HerO are easily two of the best players at this tournament. DIMAGA to take first place with HerO right behind.



This tournament seems rather Protoss heavy, I don't like it....
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 20:19:48
January 11 2012 20:18 GMT
#167
On January 12 2012 05:15 Vildhjarta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 00:32 Fyzar wrote:
Hmm, my predictions;
Group A
NaNiwa
Beastyqt

Group B
Grubby
Kas

Group C
HasuObs
MMA

Group D
Feast
HerO

e; this was supposed to be an edit -.- sorry about that


voting grubby over kas. wat? check country. ahhh netherlands there we go.

Just predictions on who will get out, not necessarily which place.

And even if, who are you to question my opinion -_-, thank you very much Swede.
It appears I have been chosen.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
January 11 2012 20:18 GMT
#168
My head tells my Hero wins.
My heart tells me Hasuobs will win.
My balls tell me qxc will win.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 11 2012 20:21 GMT
#169
On January 12 2012 05:15 Vildhjarta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 00:32 Fyzar wrote:
Hmm, my predictions;
Group A
NaNiwa
Beastyqt

Group B
Grubby
Kas

Group C
HasuObs
MMA

Group D
Feast
HerO

e; this was supposed to be an edit -.- sorry about that


voting grubby over kas. wat? check country. ahhh netherlands there we go.

Grubby is ridiculously good even though he doesn't have the results (I heard he won an online tournament or something back in WarCraft 3) he's been practicing a lot recently. His play at HSC has convinced me that he is going to become a dominant force in SC2 (check my country, I'm from United States).

Also I don't know if that guy had those groups listed with his predictions saying first and second place, if they were then the weirdest thing I see if him putting Feast over HerO and Hasu over MMA. Those both are way less likely then Grubby beating Kas.
LXR
Profile Joined June 2011
357 Posts
January 11 2012 20:23 GMT
#170
nice line up. I predict MMA vs. Naniwa finals, which would be AWESOME
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
January 11 2012 20:44 GMT
#171
Naniwa should definitely be getting out of his group. He's the best player there, and the others are mid tier pros for the large part. His vZ is still quite weak, so I can see KilleR taking a game or two theoretically, depending on how well he got to learn Naniwa's style while Nani was on dignitas. In theory Nani should clean out the group without a loss and it'll be between beasty and Killer to see who goes through. Killer seems to be good at upsets in tournaments, but the safer bet is on beastyqt. If he prepares for Killers roach-heavy style, he should come out of the group.

If Grubby plays like he did at Homestory, he should break from his group. Kas is good, and he'll probably get out of the group as well, but if Grubby does well, I could see him taking Kas out. Zenio hasn't had much coverage lately, but Grubby and Kas both have pretty good vZ so I don't see him getting out this time. Diestar is very much an unknown quantity. He could do well, but he's unlikely to take out the far more successful players he is up against.

In group C, Hasu and MMA should get out of the group. Once again, it'll come down to how mainstream the styles of Pomi and Targa are. If they have unique styles and MMA and Hasu aren't used to them, they could do badly. Hasu wasn't at his best at HSC, so I don't see him taking down MMA, but he should clear Pomi and Targa. MMa almost certainly takes the group, depending on how much focus he gives to preparing. He has a GSL match only three days before, so he's not likely to be preparing for these opponents. When compared to people like Hasu who have until the event to prepare for him specifically, there could be an upset.

Hero will probably escape group D, but he'll need to beat DIMAGA and qxc. He should take out feast, who isn't such a massive player, but qxc in particular could give him a lot of trouble. On the other hand, he could well beat DIMAGA, who wasn't really on form at Homestory. Qxc will probably take out DIMAGA, but this is definitely the closest group. A three way tie is very much possible, but it's probably going to be qxc and Hero.
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
January 11 2012 20:52 GMT
#172
qxc is taking home the gold! :D
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
January 11 2012 20:53 GMT
#173
A: Naniwa, Killer
B: Kas, Grubby
C: MMA, HasuObs
D: DIMAGA, Hero

I actually think Feast might be able to advance over Hero though.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
January 11 2012 20:56 GMT
#174
I'm a little confused about how they choose the players that participate? Is it through a qualifier process or is it by invite according to region?

At any rate, MMA to win the whole thing, Naniwa to get second (Just my predictions!)
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 11 2012 21:01 GMT
#175
sick tourney cant wait go Hero!!!
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
January 11 2012 21:04 GMT
#176
On January 12 2012 05:56 DYEAlabaster wrote:
I'm a little confused about how they choose the players that participate? Is it through a qualifier process or is it by invite according to region?

At any rate, MMA to win the whole thing, Naniwa to get second (Just my predictions!)


Qualifiers for everywhere but Korea.

For this one, 7 players from a Euro qualifier (Feast, Dimaga, Beastyqt, Hasu, Titan, Pomi and Grubby).
2 American players (dde -> replaced by qxc who was the next highest in the qualifier, Killer)
1 from SEA (Was Yang, but he couldn't attend and no other players from the qualifier wanted to attend. Spot given to TargA)
1 Chinese player (Given to DieStar...?)
1 National Champion (Kas)
4 invited Koreans

To be in one of those groups, you have to just be living in the participating region, hence why Naniwa got a Korean invite.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
January 11 2012 21:05 GMT
#177
Looks fun, think foreigners will make this competitive just like NY
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 11 2012 21:07 GMT
#178
On January 12 2012 05:44 Yonnua wrote:
Naniwa should definitely be getting out of his group. He's the best player there, and the others are mid tier pros for the large part. His vZ is still quite weak, so I can see KilleR taking a game or two theoretically, depending on how well he got to learn Naniwa's style while Nani was on dignitas. In theory Nani should clean out the group without a loss and it'll be between beasty and Killer to see who goes through. Killer seems to be good at upsets in tournaments, but the safer bet is on beastyqt. If he prepares for Killers roach-heavy style, he should come out of the group.

If Grubby plays like he did at Homestory, he should break from his group. Kas is good, and he'll probably get out of the group as well, but if Grubby does well, I could see him taking Kas out. Zenio hasn't had much coverage lately, but Grubby and Kas both have pretty good vZ so I don't see him getting out this time. Diestar is very much an unknown quantity. He could do well, but he's unlikely to take out the far more successful players he is up against.

In group C, Hasu and MMA should get out of the group. Once again, it'll come down to how mainstream the styles of Pomi and Targa are. If they have unique styles and MMA and Hasu aren't used to them, they could do badly. Hasu wasn't at his best at HSC, so I don't see him taking down MMA, but he should clear Pomi and Targa. MMa almost certainly takes the group, depending on how much focus he gives to preparing. He has a GSL match only three days before, so he's not likely to be preparing for these opponents. When compared to people like Hasu who have until the event to prepare for him specifically, there could be an upset.

Hero will probably escape group D, but he'll need to beat DIMAGA and qxc. He should take out feast, who isn't such a massive player, but qxc in particular could give him a lot of trouble. On the other hand, he could well beat DIMAGA, who wasn't really on form at Homestory. Qxc will probably take out DIMAGA, but this is definitely the closest group. A three way tie is very much possible, but it's probably going to be qxc and Hero.

NaNiwa has come so far since he was on Dignitas that I doubt KiLLeR's knowledge will have much impact on the game and NaNiwa's PvZ is super good. Maybe you missed MLG Providence where he beat NesTea in two Bo3s.... But if not look at his games against Zergs. On the first page, the only "weak" player listed there is Ciara, the other players are all ridiculously good and many are Koreans + Show Spoiler +
(Z)DRG, (Z)Sheth, (Z)Ciara (Z)Stephano, (Z)Leenock, (Z)NesTea, (Z)Ret, (Z)Sen, (Z)DIMAGA, (Z)HayprO with ~60% W/L ratio
and he has a pretty positive record on that page too. If KiLLeR can make a game against NaNiwa look close I'd be surprised.

I'm not sure that Diestar is really unknown because we continuously see him in tournaments, but he never goes anywhere. I doubt he'll do anything here either. His play always seems weak from what I've seen, so I agree with you that he has very little chance of escaping a group that talented.

I don't think that Qxc stands much of a chance, sadly. To the best of my knowledge he's been studying at school recently, so I don't really see how he can be as well prepared, which is something he'll need against players like HerO and DIMAGA.
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 21:21:53
January 11 2012 21:08 GMT
#179
A

Naniwa
Beasty/Titan the only position which is hard to predict but id go for titan

B

Kas
Grubby

C

MMA
Hasu

D

Hero
Dimaga

should be pretty realistic
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 21:09:55
January 11 2012 21:09 GMT
#180
On January 12 2012 05:44 Yonnua wrote:
Naniwa should definitely be getting out of his group. He's the best player there, and the others are mid tier pros for the large part. His vZ is still quite weak, so I can see KilleR taking a game or two theoretically, depending on how well he got to learn Naniwa's style while Nani was on dignitas. In theory Nani should clean out the group without a loss and it'll be between beasty and Killer to see who goes through. Killer seems to be good at upsets in tournaments, but the safer bet is on beastyqt. If he prepares for Killers roach-heavy style, he should come out of the group.

If Grubby plays like he did at Homestory, he should break from his group. Kas is good, and he'll probably get out of the group as well, but if Grubby does well, I could see him taking Kas out. Zenio hasn't had much coverage lately, but Grubby and Kas both have pretty good vZ so I don't see him getting out this time. Diestar is very much an unknown quantity. He could do well, but he's unlikely to take out the far more successful players he is up against.

In group C, Hasu and MMA should get out of the group. Once again, it'll come down to how mainstream the styles of Pomi and Targa are. If they have unique styles and MMA and Hasu aren't used to them, they could do badly. Hasu wasn't at his best at HSC, so I don't see him taking down MMA, but he should clear Pomi and Targa. MMa almost certainly takes the group, depending on how much focus he gives to preparing. He has a GSL match only three days before, so he's not likely to be preparing for these opponents. When compared to people like Hasu who have until the event to prepare for him specifically, there could be an upset.

Hero will probably escape group D, but he'll need to beat DIMAGA and qxc. He should take out feast, who isn't such a massive player, but qxc in particular could give him a lot of trouble. On the other hand, he could well beat DIMAGA, who wasn't really on form at Homestory. Qxc will probably take out DIMAGA, but this is definitely the closest group. A three way tie is very much possible, but it's probably going to be qxc and Hero.


hasu had private problems and hasnt practiced a lot over the last weeks
but MMA should win the group,yes
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