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claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 18:38:30
January 12 2012 14:57 GMT
#301
On January 12 2012 17:30 TearsOfTheSun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 13:16 claash wrote:
On January 12 2012 09:50 TearsOfTheSun wrote:
ok guys.

group A:
NaNi - killer

group B:
zenio - kas

group C:
MMA - pomi

group D:
dimaga - hero



Group C fail

why is group C a fail? i guarantee pomi will make it out =]


good one XD
Hasu is the way better toss(Pomi plays some online cups but thats it).if pomi will make it out of his group there must have been other reasons xd
wonder always happen and id laugh my ass off when pomi will make second.but hasu vs.pomi? come on;) seriously

Hasu is the way better toss.already fixed but ONE thing is that hasu hasent practiced over xmas-new year.
he also had some private stuff to clear so hasu wont probably play his A-Game but should be enough tho

but there are always people who are new to sc2 so its ok


claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 15:00:30
January 12 2012 14:58 GMT
#302
On January 12 2012 19:46 TearsOfTheSun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 18:15 happush wrote:
my predictions:

+ Show Spoiler +
Group A
NaNiwa
TitaN

Group B
Grubby
Kas

Group C
MMA
Pomi (maybe......^______^)

Group D
DIMAGA
qxc




fantastic choice in group c



have you started a russian pomi fanclub yesterday?
"pomi>hasu" good one
Sanhadrian
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland33 Posts
January 12 2012 15:48 GMT
#303
I'm rooting for my fellow tosses obviously; don't really know who's better, but I'm sure glad there are plenty of photosynthetic golden demigods to root for; hence, go Hero, Hasu, Naniwa, and Grubby (been rooting for the last two since WC3).
"Inked ravens of despair claw holes in the arse of the worlds mind."
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
January 12 2012 16:18 GMT
#304
MMA's my pick to win the tournament
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
January 12 2012 16:19 GMT
#305
On January 13 2012 00:48 Sanhadrian wrote:
I'm rooting for my fellow tosses obviously; don't really know who's better, but I'm sure glad there are plenty of photosynthetic golden demigods to root for; hence, go Hero, Hasu, Naniwa, and Grubby (been rooting for the last two since WC3).


Feast is a toss and played wc3 as well... 2 reasons for yout to cheer for him !
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psycroptic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada115 Posts
January 12 2012 16:20 GMT
#306
hero vs naniwa finals, calling it
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
January 12 2012 16:24 GMT
#307
Oh shiiii! So stoked!
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GxZ
Profile Joined April 2010
United States375 Posts
January 12 2012 16:30 GMT
#308
No quake?
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
January 12 2012 18:01 GMT
#309
On January 13 2012 01:30 GxZ wrote:
No quake?


Of course, did not you that Carmac is the killer of Quake?!
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
January 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#310
HerO and Zenio fighting!
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 12 2012 19:10 GMT
#311
On January 12 2012 12:32 Dexington wrote:
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On January 12 2012 12:27 The Final Boss wrote:
On January 12 2012 09:18 Yonnua wrote:
On January 12 2012 06:07 The Final Boss wrote:
On January 12 2012 05:44 Yonnua wrote:
Naniwa should definitely be getting out of his group. He's the best player there, and the others are mid tier pros for the large part. His vZ is still quite weak, so I can see KilleR taking a game or two theoretically, depending on how well he got to learn Naniwa's style while Nani was on dignitas. In theory Nani should clean out the group without a loss and it'll be between beasty and Killer to see who goes through. Killer seems to be good at upsets in tournaments, but the safer bet is on beastyqt. If he prepares for Killers roach-heavy style, he should come out of the group.

If Grubby plays like he did at Homestory, he should break from his group. Kas is good, and he'll probably get out of the group as well, but if Grubby does well, I could see him taking Kas out. Zenio hasn't had much coverage lately, but Grubby and Kas both have pretty good vZ so I don't see him getting out this time. Diestar is very much an unknown quantity. He could do well, but he's unlikely to take out the far more successful players he is up against.

In group C, Hasu and MMA should get out of the group. Once again, it'll come down to how mainstream the styles of Pomi and Targa are. If they have unique styles and MMA and Hasu aren't used to them, they could do badly. Hasu wasn't at his best at HSC, so I don't see him taking down MMA, but he should clear Pomi and Targa. MMa almost certainly takes the group, depending on how much focus he gives to preparing. He has a GSL match only three days before, so he's not likely to be preparing for these opponents. When compared to people like Hasu who have until the event to prepare for him specifically, there could be an upset.

Hero will probably escape group D, but he'll need to beat DIMAGA and qxc. He should take out feast, who isn't such a massive player, but qxc in particular could give him a lot of trouble. On the other hand, he could well beat DIMAGA, who wasn't really on form at Homestory. Qxc will probably take out DIMAGA, but this is definitely the closest group. A three way tie is very much possible, but it's probably going to be qxc and Hero.

NaNiwa has come so far since he was on Dignitas that I doubt KiLLeR's knowledge will have much impact on the game and NaNiwa's PvZ is super good. Maybe you missed MLG Providence where he beat NesTea in two Bo3s.... But if not look at his games against Zergs. On the first page, the only "weak" player listed there is Ciara, the other players are all ridiculously good and many are Koreans + Show Spoiler +
(Z)DRG, (Z)Sheth, (Z)Ciara (Z)Stephano, (Z)Leenock, (Z)NesTea, (Z)Ret, (Z)Sen, (Z)DIMAGA, (Z)HayprO with ~60% W/L ratio
and he has a pretty positive record on that page too. If KiLLeR can make a game against NaNiwa look close I'd be surprised.

I'm not sure that Diestar is really unknown because we continuously see him in tournaments, but he never goes anywhere. I doubt he'll do anything here either. His play always seems weak from what I've seen, so I agree with you that he has very little chance of escaping a group that talented.

I don't think that Qxc stands much of a chance, sadly. To the best of my knowledge he's been studying at school recently, so I don't really see how he can be as well prepared, which is something he'll need against players like HerO and DIMAGA.


Naniwa's repeatedly said that vZ is his weakest match-up. If he only had to play vT and vP, he'd be doing a LOT better than he is now. He did well at providence against every race, that doesn't mean PvZ isn't his weakest matchup.

Point remains that he's not going to drop a game to KiLLeR. That's all I'm really trying to say. NaNi has defeated an allstar lineup of Zergs and one more mid-tier foreigner isn't going to phase him.


Killer's pretty good man. Check out his results on TLPD or Liquipedia. He did damn well at Blizzcon and IEM NY.

He's not Ret, SEn, Stephano, or DIMAGA and he's certainly not DRG or NesTea, all of whom NaNiwa has beaten.
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
January 12 2012 19:48 GMT
#312
What's mappool?
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
January 12 2012 19:53 GMT
#313
On January 13 2012 04:10 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 12:32 Dexington wrote:
On January 12 2012 12:27 The Final Boss wrote:
On January 12 2012 09:18 Yonnua wrote:
On January 12 2012 06:07 The Final Boss wrote:
On January 12 2012 05:44 Yonnua wrote:
Naniwa should definitely be getting out of his group. He's the best player there, and the others are mid tier pros for the large part. His vZ is still quite weak, so I can see KilleR taking a game or two theoretically, depending on how well he got to learn Naniwa's style while Nani was on dignitas. In theory Nani should clean out the group without a loss and it'll be between beasty and Killer to see who goes through. Killer seems to be good at upsets in tournaments, but the safer bet is on beastyqt. If he prepares for Killers roach-heavy style, he should come out of the group.

If Grubby plays like he did at Homestory, he should break from his group. Kas is good, and he'll probably get out of the group as well, but if Grubby does well, I could see him taking Kas out. Zenio hasn't had much coverage lately, but Grubby and Kas both have pretty good vZ so I don't see him getting out this time. Diestar is very much an unknown quantity. He could do well, but he's unlikely to take out the far more successful players he is up against.

In group C, Hasu and MMA should get out of the group. Once again, it'll come down to how mainstream the styles of Pomi and Targa are. If they have unique styles and MMA and Hasu aren't used to them, they could do badly. Hasu wasn't at his best at HSC, so I don't see him taking down MMA, but he should clear Pomi and Targa. MMa almost certainly takes the group, depending on how much focus he gives to preparing. He has a GSL match only three days before, so he's not likely to be preparing for these opponents. When compared to people like Hasu who have until the event to prepare for him specifically, there could be an upset.

Hero will probably escape group D, but he'll need to beat DIMAGA and qxc. He should take out feast, who isn't such a massive player, but qxc in particular could give him a lot of trouble. On the other hand, he could well beat DIMAGA, who wasn't really on form at Homestory. Qxc will probably take out DIMAGA, but this is definitely the closest group. A three way tie is very much possible, but it's probably going to be qxc and Hero.

NaNiwa has come so far since he was on Dignitas that I doubt KiLLeR's knowledge will have much impact on the game and NaNiwa's PvZ is super good. Maybe you missed MLG Providence where he beat NesTea in two Bo3s.... But if not look at his games against Zergs. On the first page, the only "weak" player listed there is Ciara, the other players are all ridiculously good and many are Koreans + Show Spoiler +
(Z)DRG, (Z)Sheth, (Z)Ciara (Z)Stephano, (Z)Leenock, (Z)NesTea, (Z)Ret, (Z)Sen, (Z)DIMAGA, (Z)HayprO with ~60% W/L ratio
and he has a pretty positive record on that page too. If KiLLeR can make a game against NaNiwa look close I'd be surprised.

I'm not sure that Diestar is really unknown because we continuously see him in tournaments, but he never goes anywhere. I doubt he'll do anything here either. His play always seems weak from what I've seen, so I agree with you that he has very little chance of escaping a group that talented.

I don't think that Qxc stands much of a chance, sadly. To the best of my knowledge he's been studying at school recently, so I don't really see how he can be as well prepared, which is something he'll need against players like HerO and DIMAGA.


Naniwa's repeatedly said that vZ is his weakest match-up. If he only had to play vT and vP, he'd be doing a LOT better than he is now. He did well at providence against every race, that doesn't mean PvZ isn't his weakest matchup.

Point remains that he's not going to drop a game to KiLLeR. That's all I'm really trying to say. NaNi has defeated an allstar lineup of Zergs and one more mid-tier foreigner isn't going to phase him.


Killer's pretty good man. Check out his results on TLPD or Liquipedia. He did damn well at Blizzcon and IEM NY.

He's not Ret, SEn, Stephano, or DIMAGA and he's certainly not DRG or NesTea, all of whom NaNiwa has beaten.


Killer has taken a game of MC at an IEM, so to say that he can't take a game off Naniwa is baffling.
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Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
January 12 2012 20:04 GMT
#314
Nani-beasty

Grubby-Kas

MMA-Hasu

Hero-Dimaga

Those are my predictions Though I think Nani has an extreamly good shot at winning it all even with MMA in there having beaten both MVP and NesTea before whom are 2 of the top 3 players in the world along with MMA so itll be a good match if it happens
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
January 12 2012 20:16 GMT
#315
Gogo Hasu !
§1: Die Units des Hasu sind unantastbar.
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
January 12 2012 20:32 GMT
#316
Why is it no info about mappool?
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
January 12 2012 20:39 GMT
#317
My predictions;

Group A
Naniwa
Killer

Group B
Kas
Zenio

Group C
Hasu
MMA

Group D
Dimaga
Hero

I'm sure IEM Kiev will be a great event overall just like last year.
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria925 Posts
January 12 2012 20:46 GMT
#318
My Picks:

Nani, TitaN

Zenio, Grubby

MMA, Hasu

Hero, DIMAGA

That is 5 P, 2 Z, and 1 T... so I really think Zenio has a chance to win this, hell it's about time.
Livin' this life like it was written.
inFeZa
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia556 Posts
January 12 2012 23:23 GMT
#319
So many people underestimating targa.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
January 12 2012 23:29 GMT
#320
This should be fun. A pitty there's not even one player on MMAs level, if he is serious he will take the whole thing easily.
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