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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 01:35:08
April 05 2012 01:34 GMT
#621
The two comments above me summarize well what I think. Khaldor tends to overcriticize or overpraise, and there are people who dislike one or the other. But I guess it's tough to find the right balance.
Personally, I just don't like how he criticizes minor mechanical mistakes (like some forgotten drop or mutas that fly by a little too many marines or something like that). Players play at a very fast rate, yet they can't control everything, so just point out the fact ("Looks like he forgot this drop at the top-right of the map") and leave it at that, instead of going ("That shouldn't happen, it's horrible") like the guy above me said.
Decision making mistakes, that you should notice, however you must take into account that players don't have as much information as you. But generally Khaldor handles them pretty well I think
Please no race bias (like saying "Oh, it's disgusting!" when a Terran drops all his mules in his last expand in a very close long TvZ), but I think he improved on that a bit.

Overall Khaldor's casting is pretty good, but paired with the right person (Wolfdor is cool, Moldor is...awful).

Edit: I have no problem with the accent, his english is very good
Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
April 05 2012 01:48 GMT
#622
Khaldor,
Your casting was very rough when you first got there, but I think as you settle into the routine of things, you've gotten much better. You and wolf seem to have some decent report lately and I see you continually getting better.

When you started, I'd have voted no, I think I am just recently moving from the 'average' to liking your style so keep doing what you're already doing, it's getting better and better.
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
Sorathez
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia209 Posts
April 05 2012 02:05 GMT
#623
You're a great caster, Khaldor :D, the only thing I'd say though is you might focus a little too much on statistics, which, as the "guy with the knowledge aka Artosis" role it seems like you're filling that does make sense, but sometimes hearing, "Player A has X% win-rate vs this race on this map and Player B has Y% win-rate vs this race on this map" over and over gets a little annoying, same with your emphasis on resources lost and so on.

Statistics definitely have their place in commentating, especially in the "Artosis role" but I think maybe you overemphasise it a little.
Otherwise, a great pleasure to listen to you cast
There's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep trying till you run out of cake.
Lovely_US
Profile Joined August 2011
United States94 Posts
April 09 2012 00:56 GMT
#624
Khaldor, you are an average caster. One criticism I do have is when you show very heavy favoritism towards one player (GSL code S groups Hero vs Maru), and as a result these emotions blind and dilute your analysis. If you were to stay unbiased as possible (though not completely because everyone has favorite players) you would be able to see why a certain player won instead of claiming they won because "they are a protoss killer" or something like that. Also, when Wolf makes a point, sometimes you repeat it word for word after saying "in addition," which is repetitive.

Otherwise, keep up the good work.
Prox
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 01:03:34
April 09 2012 01:00 GMT
#625
Im sorry Khaldor, for a German your Genglish is pretty good, but... take this as constructive criticism:

When you are casting, every other sentence contains the word "PROBLEM". Im completely annoyed by it, especially after noticing in last nights IPL4 games. (For example Nestea - Alive G1 or Squirtle - MMA G2) "His big problem this... ", "The main problem that", "One of the problems for Nestea is". Etc. You are so overusing it, even when there are better subsitutes, try to use different wording.

Also, what I always notice in your casts is that you don't know the difference between the verbs 'dying' and 'destroying'. Very often buildings are dying according to you.

You might think Im nitpicking, but Im sure many people do notice but nobody is telling you.

Edit: oh I forgot, apart from this your casting is pretty decent!
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Prox
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
April 09 2012 01:05 GMT
#626
Khaldor is a baller. GREAT JOB @ IPL.
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
April 09 2012 01:08 GMT
#627
Doing good work at IPL but he must rest his throat..
cravin74
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1088 Posts
April 09 2012 01:11 GMT
#628
Doing a good job but he needs some rest since he was sick recently. I can hear the strain in his voice...
StimMarine
Profile Joined March 2011
723 Posts
April 09 2012 01:22 GMT
#629
Please stop saying things like "it's impossible for player X to win at this point". Thanks.
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
April 09 2012 11:08 GMT
#630
I have to say Khaldor, you do a much better job of casting when you are sick. Try to emulate your performance at IPL4 at GOM.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 11:28:50
April 09 2012 11:28 GMT
#631
On April 09 2012 20:08 Amlitzer wrote:
I have to say Khaldor, you do a much better job of casting when you are sick. Try to emulate your performance at IPL4 at GOM.


i think this is because GSL spoils people.

you expect so much from GSL casters, that you are overly critical in general. but when you put them right after another random pair of casters, you actually see how Fing GOOD these guys that you usually critize are.

it was similiar for me, when i would turn on GSL i would think Wolf and Khal are kinda monotonous, but last night i actually went "yeeeey finally" when i saw those two up there.

it so funny how our brains work

anyhows, keep it up guys, great work and you deserve to be where you are.
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
April 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#632
On April 09 2012 20:28 snailz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 20:08 Amlitzer wrote:
I have to say Khaldor, you do a much better job of casting when you are sick. Try to emulate your performance at IPL4 at GOM.


i think this is because GSL spoils people.

you expect so much from GSL casters, that you are overly critical in general. but when you put them right after another random pair of casters, you actually see how Fing GOOD these guys that you usually critize are.

it was similiar for me, when i would turn on GSL i would think Wolf and Khal are kinda monotonous, but last night i actually went "yeeeey finally" when i saw those two up there.

it so funny how our brains work

anyhows, keep it up guys, great work and you deserve to be where you are.

No it's more to do with the fact that with Khaldor being sick he lacked the energy to start shouting incoherent English in a failed attempt to sound exciting. His words per minute were also greatly slowed which prevented him from repeating and stumbling over his words.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 09 2012 11:59 GMT
#633
You were a bit rough in the start yes, but I really feel even though you may not have the most knowledge of the game out of all casters I still like your casting, you should know that I really dont like 90% of the casters either, so keep it up. Wolf + Khaldor = great
Jaedong & Faker
masakenji
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia415 Posts
April 09 2012 12:07 GMT
#634
well you and wolf definitely talk about more interesting stuff during delays than other casters that weekend.
igotmanatoblow
Profile Joined March 2012
33 Posts
April 09 2012 12:23 GMT
#635
Watching you since 2006 and, although nothing can compare to the good old wc3 casts, I still like your casts.

I love to see your english improving, especially cause I am in a very similiar situation and facing the same problems. Its funny learning English coming from a German background. You don't realize how many subtle elements of the language you disturb(?) by using a German way of structuring your sentence.
You seem pretty much past that level, but I like your attitude that you still want to improve. In the long run this will imho close or at least minimize the gap between you and native speakers.

I saw this really cool quiz app about collocations and phrases. That might be helpful. As far as I'm concerned your active vocabulary is great but one might discover a difference to native speakers


I'd love to see you making use of some German. Maybe not the cliché about the "PANZERGENERAL!!" but something like "Vorpsrung durch Technik" commenting on a Protoss Deathball or whatever. On a international level you're the only German, that might be useful/entertaining from time to time.

Keep it up, Khaldor!
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
April 09 2012 12:28 GMT
#636
I love you
Crankk
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany32 Posts
April 09 2012 12:31 GMT
#637
On April 09 2012 10:22 StimMarine wrote:
Please stop saying things like "it's impossible for player X to win at this point". Thanks.


Why he should saying if it's right? If the terran has 10 marines and zerg 50 broodlords what should he say? I like his style and I think some comments are really quite dumb.
Don't give up - I have marines !
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
April 09 2012 13:33 GMT
#638
Your english has improved so much!

Just 6 month ago I could barely listen to your cast without cringing, whenever you pronounced something with german accent.

Great Job @ IPL,
Mr.Ladebalken on it's way, to become one of my favourite english casters aswell.
Brandish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States339 Posts
April 09 2012 14:35 GMT
#639
Hi Khaldor!

In general I am a huge fan of you and wolf's casting and especially your solo casting but sometimes when a battle starts or there is an intense fight happening, you turn on your "intense voice" or something and it is very uncomfortable to listen to, I realize that it is important to convey to the audience that what is happening is a big deal but perhaps there is another way to do it. or maybe it is just your accent and I am too picky. anyways, just a small bump in an otherwise great casting skillset!
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
April 09 2012 14:44 GMT
#640
Khaldor, your casting is outstanding and your English is great.. badass accent.. I seem to like accents in my casts.. which is why I like apollo and TB so much. PainUser is a very good native English caster.

Nice job soldiering it up for IPL4 though.. would be hard to pass up such a great casting experience.

Live Long and Prosper!!

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
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