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desRow joins & Imgur sponsors Team LgN - Page 4

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rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 21:02:38
November 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#61
sorry, misclick
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
November 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#62
Wow, so much poison in these threads. I just need to stay out...

As for the Gosi comments, there were a bunch of miscommunications, hence Torte's post. Don't assume that he joined and insta-left because he thought he was "too good" for the team.

Also, really really nice sponsors. Is Gun=tgun?
TheTrueAmerican
Profile Joined April 2011
United States132 Posts
November 07 2011 21:03 GMT
#63
On November 08 2011 04:55 hmunkey wrote:
Uhh, what?
Why would Imgur sponsor an SC2 team and why would a team pick Desrow up as their first player?


fake sponsor if i've ever seen one. and even if they do sponsor them its with a free premium account to upload images. no way in hell imgur pays them any money.
Spit-wad
Profile Joined June 2011
United States297 Posts
November 07 2011 21:05 GMT
#64
I never said he should be "immune to criticism". He realizes that he made a mistake.

However, it's a mistake that he can no longer fix. desRow WAS affiliated with the team. ESL is at fault for releasing the prize to him. Even if his intentions were originally questionable, he did turn over the full sum to the players... just not equally.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 07 2011 21:06 GMT
#65
On November 08 2011 06:03 TheTrueAmerican wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 04:55 hmunkey wrote:
Uhh, what?
Why would Imgur sponsor an SC2 team and why would a team pick Desrow up as their first player?


fake sponsor if i've ever seen one. and even if they do sponsor them its with a free premium account to upload images. no way in hell imgur pays them any money.


Way to be a dick. You're not the least bit qualified to talk about LgN's sponsors.

As for desrow, let's just hope he cleans up his act. Same with major and sixjax, these teams are giving them a second chance because they recognize their talent so I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
neptunesak
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 21:08:31
November 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#66
Bad move on LgN's part picking up desrow.

Im surprised imgur is sponsoring someone...
TheTrueAmerican
Profile Joined April 2011
United States132 Posts
November 07 2011 21:14 GMT
#67
On November 08 2011 06:06 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 06:03 TheTrueAmerican wrote:
On November 08 2011 04:55 hmunkey wrote:
Uhh, what?
Why would Imgur sponsor an SC2 team and why would a team pick Desrow up as their first player?


fake sponsor if i've ever seen one. and even if they do sponsor them its with a free premium account to upload images. no way in hell imgur pays them any money.


Way to be a dick. You're not the least bit qualified to talk about LgN's sponsors.

As for desrow, let's just hope he cleans up his act. Same with major and sixjax, these teams are giving them a second chance because they recognize their talent so I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt.



Yeah imgur has no reason to sponsor sc2 and has not yet made an announcement or given lgn any type of comment. Unless they do so its hard to take that sponsorship seriously. And I can bet lgn wont be putting up any type of statement from them in the future as well.
South
Profile Joined November 2010
80 Posts
November 07 2011 21:15 GMT
#68
On November 08 2011 06:05 Spit-wad wrote:
I never said he should be "immune to criticism". He realizes that he made a mistake.

However, it's a mistake that he can no longer fix. desRow WAS affiliated with the team. ESL is at fault for releasing the prize to him. Even if his intentions were originally questionable, he did turn over the full sum to the players... just not equally.


What ESL did would qualify as a mistake. What he did doesn't sound like a mistake at all; it sounds like an attempt at theft that went wrong. If this is all some kind of huge misunderstanding and there's something that can actually defend his character, I'm all ears. But so far, sounds like he tried to steal something, got busted and backpeddled in an extremely odd fashion.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 07 2011 21:16 GMT
#69
On November 08 2011 06:14 TheTrueAmerican wrote:
Yeah imgur has no reason to sponsor sc2 and has not yet made an announcement or given lgn any type of comment. Unless they do so its hard to take that sponsorship seriously. And I can bet lgn wont be putting up any type of statement from them in the future as well.


well i'm glad you have your tin hat on already

seriously.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
TheTrueAmerican
Profile Joined April 2011
United States132 Posts
November 07 2011 21:19 GMT
#70
dont be naive...
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 07 2011 21:22 GMT
#71
On November 08 2011 06:19 TheTrueAmerican wrote:
dont be naive...


You know if this was true, Imgur would more than likely make a statement refuting Team Legion's announcement.

Basing your claim on a lack of a statement is silly. Innocent until proven guilty.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
EricCartman
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada306 Posts
November 07 2011 21:25 GMT
#72
sad soul this desrow is. stealing money is just despicable. ugh i feel gross for even writing a post on a thread with his name on it
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
November 07 2011 21:26 GMT
#73
Aw I don't like desrow the sponsorship is cool though
Oh no
TheTrueAmerican
Profile Joined April 2011
United States132 Posts
November 07 2011 21:27 GMT
#74
Imgur likely has no idea. But like i said even if they do sponsor them its likely just a premium account and no money is changing hands. In which case this announcement is fine but dont believe it to be something big when in actuality its probably quite small.

User was warned for this post
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 07 2011 21:29 GMT
#75
On November 08 2011 06:27 TheTrueAmerican wrote:
Imgur likely has no idea. But like i said even if they do sponsor them its likely just a premium account and no money is changing hands. In which case this announcement is fine but dont believe it to be something big when in actuality its probably quite small.


Like 90% of other sponsorships?
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 07 2011 21:29 GMT
#76
On November 08 2011 06:27 TheTrueAmerican wrote:
Imgur likely has no idea. But like i said even if they do sponsor them its likely just a premium account and no money is changing hands. In which case this announcement is fine but dont believe it to be something big when in actuality its probably quite small.


Again, you are not part of Imgur or LgN.

Baseless statement is baseless.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
TheTrueAmerican
Profile Joined April 2011
United States132 Posts
November 07 2011 21:32 GMT
#77
On November 08 2011 06:29 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 06:27 TheTrueAmerican wrote:
Imgur likely has no idea. But like i said even if they do sponsor them its likely just a premium account and no money is changing hands. In which case this announcement is fine but dont believe it to be something big when in actuality its probably quite small.


Again, you are not part of Imgur or LgN.

Baseless statement is baseless.


Naive people are naive.
yellu
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria33 Posts
November 07 2011 21:34 GMT
#78
So happy for DesRow!! Cant wait to see how he will do in Korea!! desrow fighting!
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
November 07 2011 21:34 GMT
#79
On November 08 2011 06:01 South wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 05:51 Spit-wad wrote:
ESL paid the 300 Euro prize money to desRow, in the form of $387 USD. This money was to be divided evenly between Korok and his four teammates. desRow did not notify the rest of the team about receiving the prize money, but eventually paid $237 to one player (to be left unnamed for now) and $150 to another. Korok and two teammates received nothing. For the record, the player who received $150 has agreed to distribute his excess payment to his teammates, as each player was entitled to $77.40.

desRow recognizes that he made a poor decision, but he gained nothing from the aforementioned events. ESL made an error and the player who received $237 and refuses to redistribute his excess payment of $159.60 is ultimately the one preventing a fair resolution. Korok is frustrated, and for good reason, but desRow is no longer in a position to rectify the situation.

Korok claims that the $237 payment was a "personal loan" and that desRow should still be responsible for paying the rest of the team. However, since desRow paid out the EXACT amount he received, and only paid this money out to teammates who deserved a portion of the money, I find it hard to believe that this was intended as a personal loan as opposed to the expected distribution of prizes.


So he randomly decided to give $237 to one guy and $150 to another? How did he come to that ratio? Why did he take the money in the first place instead of immediately returning it to sender? Just because he no longer has the money doesn't mean he's immune to criticism. You also didn't refute the claim that he "tried to sneak his name on the list". If so, wtF? Maybe the guy he sent $237 is also a jackass, but that doesn't excuse anything.

I mean I'm personally open to hearing any more input...but your defense of his character is a pretty weak one.

On November 08 2011 06:15 South wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 06:05 Spit-wad wrote:
I never said he should be "immune to criticism". He realizes that he made a mistake.

However, it's a mistake that he can no longer fix. desRow WAS affiliated with the team. ESL is at fault for releasing the prize to him. Even if his intentions were originally questionable, he did turn over the full sum to the players... just not equally.


What ESL did would qualify as a mistake. What he did doesn't sound like a mistake at all; it sounds like an attempt at theft that went wrong. If this is all some kind of huge misunderstanding and there's something that can actually defend his character, I'm all ears. But so far, sounds like he tried to steal something, got busted and backpeddled in an extremely odd fashion.



This is it exactly.
Responsibility does not shirk like this.
"Expected Distribution" would be equally split among all players, instead of giving one guy $237, another $150, and not paying three players.

If I owe player A and player B $50 each, and only pay player A $100, it doesn't matter that I overpaid one guy and no longer have it. I still owe player B, it wasn't Player A's responsibility to pay B, it was mine.
Even if player A is a jackass and won't split his money, that doesn't change the fact that I still owe player B.
It doesn't matter that I gave out what I was supposed to already.

Taking all the teams money to distribute when you didn't actually even play, then distributing random amounts to less than half the players, is just irresponsible. desRow might not be a thief, but he did cause the situation that occurred with his irresponsibility. I'm not one to hold a grudge, and desrow has admitted it was a mistake, but if more than half a year afterwards, it is still has not rectified and players are still unpaid, it is very bad for his character image.

When you make a mistake, you are also responsible for fixing that mistake. And more than half a year later it hasn't happened yet. Therefore, desRow is at the very least irresponsible, if not the many other things Korok described him as.
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Darigaz(L)
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 21:42:29
November 07 2011 21:38 GMT
#80
Yeah imgur has no reason to sponsor sc2 and has not yet made an announcement or given lgn any type of comment. Unless they do so its hard to take that sponsorship seriously. And I can bet lgn wont be putting up any type of statement from them in the future as well.

Imgur is indeed supporting us significantly and providing jerseys as posted in the announcement. We are not releasing those details to the public. A statement from imgur will be provided soon. Please no trolling thanks

Also as for any concerns about desRow, we have met with him extensively and feel that his concern to refine his attitude and play are enough to give him the opportunity he is working so hard to earn.
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