EPTfOrGG Makes it into Code A! - Page 4
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On October 26 2011 20:52 ThePhan2m wrote: I'm not joking. It depends on who you are comparing him to. But compared to any other former BW player like Puma, MC or MvP, ForGG is definitly a legend. Compared to Jaedong, Bisu & Flash, maybe not. Though he is definitly a legend when it comes to timing attacks, and one of my favorite Terrans  (as you can see ^^)You're using the term 'legend' way too lightly. A legend is something that stands out and holds weight on its own, not just comparatively. | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
On October 26 2011 21:24 Slyce wrote: I see the general feeling here is yes totally. But they are considered very different games and I know lots of people say 'oh well sc2 is ezmode' I don't buy into that, maybe because I wanna believe I am a better RTS player than I am or maybe because they are rather different mechanically. I wish this guy all the best anyway and I will stop derailing this thread with my confusion now. lets just give you one more example for your own point (that the games are in fact very different, etc.) zergbong, a.k.a nestea when tastosis first saw him playing in GSL and certainly when many fans of BW were watching those games, we were totally expecting him to bomb out the way he did in the early seasons. i'm guessing practically noone was owing that fact (that he wouldn't play so well) to how the games were different, and had poor expectations of him because of his performance in BW. some people were still overlooking the fact that he was a team captain of KTF for a long time, or that he predominantly played 2v2 only. i think he said somewhere in an interview that he concentrated on 2v2 rather than 1v1, and the transition to the latter was very disappointing and somewhat awkward for him. some people who knew him also said he had a very good practice mentality, and thought he would do a lot better if he had devoted himself to 1v1 from the very start. skip a couple months into the later open seasons of GSL and nestea is wowing tastosis, and finally steals artosis' heart when he acheives somewhat of a royal road only after participating in a few seasons of GSL. this was completely unexpected, and i'm getting unecessary long-winded, but i hope you understand that our expectations of zergbong as a player wasn't completely baseless, nor was that opinion completely educated. some of us just refused to see how he could be accepted as a team captain of one of the strongest teams. to restate my point earlier in a different way, a player only stays on top for as long as the player continues to evolve and increase/lengthen his level. a player who dominates has all the key features in his practice and play which makes him hard to surmount. if you would take the dominant players of sc1 and shove them onto sc2, you would have a convincing base of a player who would perform well no matter what. i think it's slightly more this, than all the elitism about sc2 just being a dumbed down game. the elitism might just be something that asserts that some people don't, and won't understand the game that the players hold close to themselves. the pros aren't there for the sole purpose of proving that they can play a -simpler- game at a higher level than others (people whos experience in RTS pales in comparison to them). i also think it's kind of disrespectful to think it's part of the pro's perspective. i'd just ignore it and try to be indifferent to all the extreme comments that people make to that whole BW vs sc2 stuff Lol... | ||
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simansh
257 Posts
On October 26 2011 21:38 Milkis wrote: Also another terrible assumption is that people think BW players will give a fuck about Code A/S when they swap over to SC2 What do you mean with this? | ||
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Thug[ro]
Romania340 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On October 26 2011 21:37 me_viet wrote: he's a T. He was known for his EXTREMELY strong timing attacks. If that translates over to sc2 as well... He plays exactly like any other Terran. | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
OGN will probably have its own league | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
The way I interpret it is: "BW players are dirty-rich, thus they do not care whether they are competing for ~$40,000USD (?) or a measly code A stipend". Which seems strange because if it were me, I would want to compete for more money regardless of how much money I already have. As a BW pro I would also want to play the upper tier of competition in SC2 regardless of the fact that I'm allegedly already the "upper tier (via BW experience, assuming the little being good at BW = god at SC2 thing)". I would want to show everyone just how easy it is for SC2 to be dominated by BW gods! | ||
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ViperPL
Poland1775 Posts
On October 26 2011 20:36 WArped wrote: He was pretty quick to qualify. Certainly quicker than Yellow How is he doing btw ? Last time I saw him on some tv program trying to make it to code A but not managing. | ||
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Fake)Plants
United States373 Posts
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
On October 26 2011 21:53 ViperPL wrote: Certainly quicker than Yellow How is he doing btw ? Last time I saw him on some tv program trying to make it to code A but not managing.Think yellow gave up on the game  Don't think hes gonna try qualifying again cause i never heard any news from him.Well ForGG is a better player than yellow anyways, so i wouldn't be surprised that he qualified so quickly. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
He lost in the quarter finals of the ESV Weekly Finals where Squirtle booked his ticket, glad to see he made it now. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On October 26 2011 21:28 thOr6136 wrote: WOOT if kt switches~~!!! forgg fighting! If they do I will cry myself to sleep... KT! ;_; | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On October 26 2011 21:50 FallDownMarigold wrote: The way I interpret it is: "BW players are dirty-rich, thus they do not care whether they are competing for ~$40,000USD (?) or a measly code A stipend". Which seems strange because if it were me, I would want to compete for more money regardless of how much money I already have. As a BW pro I would also want to play the upper tier of competition in SC2 regardless of the fact that I'm allegedly already the "upper tier (via BW experience, assuming the little being good at BW = god at SC2 thing)". I would want to show everyone just how easy it is for SC2 to be dominated by BW gods! I agree with you completly, but I guess we will just have to wait and see.. :/ | ||
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Faraday
United States553 Posts
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
when the players pick up the game and test themselves against all the other existing pros, the results they'll have in code A & S won't be the entire story of the beginning of their career w/ the game. there might be other leagues//a proleague for teams, and there might be fans who had expected better results in the current A/S... and so letting the negativity affect their progress could be something they couldn't care less about. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
On October 26 2011 21:59 Iplaythings wrote: If they do I will cry myself to sleep... KT! ;_; Hush,don't upset yourself over wild claims. | ||
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
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j0ker
275 Posts
On October 26 2011 21:38 Milkis wrote: OMG this A teamer BW pro who was about to be demoted into the KT B team made it past code A! Also another terrible assumption is that people think BW players will give a fuck about Code A/S when they swap over to SC2 why would they not give a fuck about making it to code s? do they not enjoy winning or money? it may not be as important to them as some fringe sc2 player who would love the code s stipend, but saying they dont give a fuck at all is silly. | ||
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Clefairy
1570 Posts
The maps were not very good. On top of that there was a weird patch so it was really difficult. However I'm happy that my hard work paid off in results. Which match was the hardest today? The final match against wOn was the hardest. First off the maps were not Terran favoured. I'm not sure if it's because they're trying to tweak the balance, but it's changed for the worse for Terrans. They should have changed the Code S maps first, I don't know why they changed the Code A maps first. So that made it difficult for me. It hasn't even been a month since you announced you were making the switch to SC2. Are you happy with the speed with which you are Conquering? This qualifier is the last one this year so I didn't want to miss this opportunity. If I didn't make it I wouldn't have the chance to play this year, but it worked out the way I wanted. Out of all the players who switched from BW you are the one with the most recent championship so a lot of fans are looking forward to how you do. I am aware of the fan's anticipations. However the time that I won was short and it was a long time ago so I don't remember it anymore. I want to return to my roots and play games. You chose oGs because of your connection with oGsGon. But he is entering the army soon. I am a little disappointed, but it's not like he's leaving as soon as I joined. Now I'm somewhat settled in with my teammates so I don't have any worries. He is getting up there in age so I'm hoping he settles into the military life well. Terrans are playing the part of the villains in the GSL. You are also a Terran, does that matter to you? It doesn't matter. Terran players prepare to win so there ends up being all-ins and strong builds, but it was unfortunate that all they get in return is criticism. I'm also a gamer and a Terran so I could empathize with them. Thanks to the changes to the format the qualifiers and even getting into Code S have gotten a little easier. I think it worked out well for me. It's a format that allows Code A players to have an easier time of moving up. For now I'm just satisfied with making it into the GSL and I will be working towards my next goal. What is your first Code A goal? For now it's getting into Code S. You'll be starting from Code A but is there anyone you want to face in Code S? If I get the chance I hope to play with Nestea hyung. Before I joined oGs I played against Nestea-hyung to try and understand the TvZ match up and I ended up losing every game. I've gotten a bit better at TvZ so I want to face him again. How long do you think it will take before you conquer SC2? I have no idea either. If I had some game sense I wouldn't be nervous at all and playing in official matches wouldn't be much of a burden, but right now my understanding of the game is still not that great compared to BW so I'm not sure. However I think it might be possible within one year. What is your ultimate goal that you want to achieve with your switch to SC2? For now winning Code S is my biggest goal. I haven't set any other detailed goals other than that. I'm thinking of just taking it one match at a time in preparation. Is there anything you'd like to say before we end this interview? Today is my mother's brithday. Thankfully I was able to win and do an interview. Happy birthday mother. And oGsGon-hyung has decided to go to the army. I was able to join oGs thanks to oGsGon, but it's not like he's leaving permanently so I hope he takes care of himself. In the real deal I beg that the maps are a bit more balanced. I am the only Terran that made it through today. It's way too harsh. Lastly, thank you to our sponsors Mom's Touch and Corsair. Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=895539&board=&category=13439&subcategory=&page=1&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby=&token= | ||
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