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Schmexi
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden341 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 17:00:36
September 24 2011 16:56 GMT
#201
On September 25 2011 01:52 Rayzorblade wrote:
What's with all the IdrA hate?


Who else should people vote for? He's been mediocre lately and is in no way deserving of even a top 10 spot at the moment...

On September 25 2011 01:55 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:52 Rayzorblade wrote:
What's with all the IdrA hate?


I don´t think people are hating on him. Its just that it feels like idra hasn´t performed up to his standards lately, while other foreigners have been doing pretty well. Take that as you wish but I honestly think idra has not been showing results someone would expect from ¨best foreigner¨.

Of course that is all opinion anyways.


Actually, he doesn't deserve to win and as the OP says "at the moment" the only one who could call him the best foreigner is a diehard IdrA fan. It isn't just "an opinion" that IdrA isn't the best foreigner atm, currently it's a fact.
svi
Profile Joined October 2010
405 Posts
September 24 2011 16:57 GMT
#202
mana is incredibly underrated...

he's the most consistent european and he actually has proven himself on lan against koreans unlike players like idra who boast something like a 2-30 record ever since he came to america.
PirateEd
Profile Joined June 2011
United States61 Posts
September 24 2011 16:57 GMT
#203
So many people saying Idra shouldn't be on the list... Sure he hasn't put up first or 2nd place results recently as many of us are expecting, but he still consistently is one of the top players at each major tournament. There have been many posts about the games Idra messed up at at MLGs but every single MLG since the start of the year he has places in the top of his pools (with the exception of last MLG where he still did 2-3 I believe). He's also been in Code S when he was in the tip top of his form in Korea, where he's going back to now. I admit, I do root for Idra everytime I see him play and am a fellow zerg so I am a little biased but his results still put him on top of foreign play.

Do I think he's the top foreigner? No way. But maybe 5th or 6th? Definitely. I think the order goes something like Huk, Thorzain, Sen, Naniwa, Dimaga, Idra, Stephano, Select, Ret, Mana,Sase, Kas. With Kas, Sase and maybe Mana being switched out for Morrow, Whitera and Nerchio/Jinro.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
September 24 2011 16:58 GMT
#204
On September 25 2011 01:52 Rayzorblade wrote:
What's with all the IdrA hate?


What has he even done recently? Anything? It's clear his talent slowly dropped off a cliff after he got back from Korea. He got slower, got figured out and the NA ladder is not doing him any favors.
starmeat_
Profile Joined May 2011
105 Posts
September 24 2011 16:58 GMT
#205
sen or throzain.

kas and idra shouldn't even be on the list, instead Nerchio should be there.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 24 2011 16:59 GMT
#206
On September 25 2011 01:57 svi wrote:
mana is incredibly underrated...

he's the most consistent european and he actually has proven himself on lan against koreans unlike players like idra who boast something like a 2-30 record ever since he came to america.


2 - 30

I see that every other foreigner has absolutely smashed the Koreans. And is currently 30-2 against Koreans
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
IcyPringle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada210 Posts
September 24 2011 17:00 GMT
#207
On September 25 2011 01:49 DiaBoLuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:47 IcyPringle wrote:
Just another pointless waste of a thread.

1. You don't have half as many people that should be up there.
2. You have people who will never reach that title so why they are up their is because of you.
3. Hundreds of these polls exist and accomplish nothing.
4. For everyone saying IdrA shouldn't be on that list your stupid, hes the best foreigner in the world with accomplishments and general skill level being unsurpassed by any one of those players. He's an American which will and always has made him a foreigner.



the reason why those threads are pointless are fanboys without any knowledge of the game like u.


more like your just clueless but w/e
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 24 2011 17:00 GMT
#208
-.- See.. the interesting complex of IdrA is that no matter how badly he does, people will always support him as the best, and that no matter how good he does, people will always discount him... If everyone on that list played everyone else on that list, IdrA would not be the one with the fewest wins, but by no means would he have that many either.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
September 24 2011 17:00 GMT
#209
On September 25 2011 01:57 svi wrote:
mana is incredibly underrated...

he's the most consistent european and he actually has proven himself on lan against koreans unlike players like idra who boast something like a 2-30 record ever since he came to america.


Yeah oh gosh, Mana is terribly underrated. I actually felt pretty uhh well not upset but I cringed when idra said he has no talent on one of DjWheat shows.

And yeah he has played and done well against plenty of Koreans. So many good people, but overall I still think Thorzain and Huk are the ones contending for the top foreigner spot.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
IcyPringle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada210 Posts
September 24 2011 17:01 GMT
#210
On September 25 2011 01:50 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:47 IcyPringle wrote:
Just another pointless waste of a thread.

1. You don't have half as many people that should be up there.
2. You have people who will never reach that title so why they are up their is because of you.
3. Hundreds of these polls exist and accomplish nothing.
4. For everyone saying IdrA shouldn't be on that list your stupid, hes the best foreigner in the world with accomplishments and general skill level being unsurpassed by any one of those players. He's an American which will and always has made him a foreigner.


Really?

Jinro is easily the most accomplished foreigner. He won a MLG and made it to the GSL semifinals twice and one of those semifinals was beating Idra 3-1 in the quarterfinals. No way Jinro is in the Top 15 right now, but his accomplishments are the best out of any foreigner until someone else can make a Code S semifinal or at least not let the Koreans take every top spot at MLG.


So why's he not on the list?
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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 17:02:34
September 24 2011 17:01 GMT
#211
On September 25 2011 02:00 CeriseCherries wrote:
-.- See.. the interesting complex of IdrA is that no matter how badly he does, people will always support him as the best, and that no matter how good he does, people will always discount him... If everyone on that list played everyone else on that list, IdrA would not be the one with the fewest wins, but by no means would he have that many either.


If we're looking at it that way, Sen would be favourite to win because he's been consistent for all of SC2. Although HuK Ret and Thorzain would also be favourites.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
VirGin
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway278 Posts
September 24 2011 17:01 GMT
#212
Well. Most forigners that try korea are currently failing in the first round of code A vs rather mediocre koreans (Fruitdealer lol)

You may say what you want about huk, easy groups, lucky opponets bla bla bla, but the fact is he has remained code S. With protoss. That says it all for me.
Chezus
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands427 Posts
September 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#213
On September 25 2011 02:01 IcyPringle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:50 Fionn wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:47 IcyPringle wrote:
Just another pointless waste of a thread.

1. You don't have half as many people that should be up there.
2. You have people who will never reach that title so why they are up their is because of you.
3. Hundreds of these polls exist and accomplish nothing.
4. For everyone saying IdrA shouldn't be on that list your stupid, hes the best foreigner in the world with accomplishments and general skill level being unsurpassed by any one of those players. He's an American which will and always has made him a foreigner.


Really?

Jinro is easily the most accomplished foreigner. He won a MLG and made it to the GSL semifinals twice and one of those semifinals was beating Idra 3-1 in the quarterfinals. No way Jinro is in the Top 15 right now, but his accomplishments are the best out of any foreigner until someone else can make a Code S semifinal or at least not let the Koreans take every top spot at MLG.


So why's he not on the list?


Because the thread is not about who is the most accomplished, but who is the best/strongest foreigner AT THIS MOMENT. Jinro and IdrA both have not shown results lately and are definitely not top 10.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
September 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#214
Lol IdrA in the Poll. I don't know what to say man. Seriously I don't =))
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
September 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#215
On September 25 2011 02:01 VirGin wrote:
Well. Most forigners that try korea are currently failing in the first round of code A vs rather mediocre koreans (Fruitdealer lol)

You may say what you want about huk, easy groups, lucky opponets bla bla bla, but the fact is he has remained code S. With protoss. That says it all for me.


Yeah I think people are underestimating how hard Code S is.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
keiraknightlee
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States301 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 17:04:22
September 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#216
Idra looks good with a ginger beard
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Schmexi
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden341 Posts
September 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#217
On September 25 2011 02:01 IcyPringle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:50 Fionn wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:47 IcyPringle wrote:
Just another pointless waste of a thread.

1. You don't have half as many people that should be up there.
2. You have people who will never reach that title so why they are up their is because of you.
3. Hundreds of these polls exist and accomplish nothing.
4. For everyone saying IdrA shouldn't be on that list your stupid, hes the best foreigner in the world with accomplishments and general skill level being unsurpassed by any one of those players. He's an American which will and always has made him a foreigner.


Really?

Jinro is easily the most accomplished foreigner. He won a MLG and made it to the GSL semifinals twice and one of those semifinals was beating Idra 3-1 in the quarterfinals. No way Jinro is in the Top 15 right now, but his accomplishments are the best out of any foreigner until someone else can make a Code S semifinal or at least not let the Koreans take every top spot at MLG.


So why's he not on the list?


Because the OP says "at the moment" read the fucking thread please.
WhiteraCares
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden339 Posts
September 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#218
Idra is on that list but not Sheth? lol.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
September 24 2011 17:04 GMT
#219
hasuobs no mention?
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Chezus
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands427 Posts
September 24 2011 17:05 GMT
#220
I suggest changing the thread name to "[Poll] Best foreigner right now?", because it seems people are not reading the OP.
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