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templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
September 16 2011 17:21 GMT
#141
I'd actually love to see a game with a SQ of 100, if it's even possible.
Pred8oar
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany281 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 17:22:33
September 16 2011 17:22 GMT
#142
Wow, a lot of work in this post, nice read
perestain
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany308 Posts
September 16 2011 17:22 GMT
#143
OMG this is nice!

Great project and nice presentation, I'll delve right into it...
No matter how hot it gets, sooner or later there's a cool breeze coming in.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
September 16 2011 17:23 GMT
#144
That was very cool to read. Great post - spotlight well deserved.
Always smile~
karn1
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands75 Posts
September 16 2011 17:24 GMT
#145
Hugely interesting, easily readable, stunning analysis. Thank you for all the effort you put into this.
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
September 16 2011 17:24 GMT
#146
On September 17 2011 02:20 Godstorm wrote:
Fantastic post, maybe sc2gears can include this SQ thingy in a future patch ?


I would love to see comparison of various renown macro-playrs with strategic ones and the like.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Sultan
Profile Joined March 2011
United States52 Posts
September 16 2011 17:24 GMT
#147
Amazing post. A lot of good statistical information to put the league system into a numerical perspective.

It would really be interesting to see the difference between different regions (Kr vs. EU vs. NA), too

But...perhaps I ask too much. =)
alwaid
Profile Joined October 2010
United States96 Posts
September 16 2011 17:24 GMT
#148
Amazing post, analysis, and writeup. Great quality of work! Now I'll just have to find a math major to explain this all to me.
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
September 16 2011 17:25 GMT
#149
Just breezed through it, looks awesome. Will check it out later!

BW hwaiting!
Sebast1aan
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium163 Posts
September 16 2011 17:25 GMT
#150
One of the best posts I've seen so far on TL .
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#151
Finally just finished reading thu all the formulas and graphs. Really really good stuff here, its easy to see the amount of time you put into it. Cool Stufff!! ; )
Greed leads to just about all losses.
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
September 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#152
Math Math Math <3
I'm getting the derection.
jpditri
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States86 Posts
September 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#153
Very awesome post-- I had a quick question relating to it:

To my knowledge there isn't a way to parse the average unspent resources (or total income) from a replay file (which makes me suspect you must have spent a million years collecting the data in-game o.0)-- would it be possible to substitute average unspent resources with a different metric that would be parseable but still yield a similarly meaningful division? Or would there be a way to estimate within reason the AUR from data in replay files?

crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 16 2011 17:27 GMT
#154
damn idra really is a macro monster.

i find the most interesting point is about the relatively little difference (statistically insignificant)between master/diamond.


awesome read, thank you!
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
foobahz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
China68 Posts
September 16 2011 17:27 GMT
#155
how do you get I and U? is income the highest income at any point in a given game? is U average unspent resources formt her scoreboard? help plz.
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
September 16 2011 17:27 GMT
#156
Really enjoyed the read.

Made me curious, so I'm off to calculating my SQ now. May be an interesting way to quantify skill improvement.

Or maybe not. But it'll still be fun to keep track of!
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
September 16 2011 17:27 GMT
#157
Unbelievable post.

In re: Idra though - you can't judge a top level zerg for not keeping their money low... they'll be maxed at 200/200 a lot of time and banking resources.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
September 16 2011 17:28 GMT
#158
Quality post, huge props, will use this!
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
edtechy
Profile Joined March 2010
Philippines30 Posts
September 16 2011 17:29 GMT
#159
This is amazing. Nice work, keep it up!
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
September 16 2011 17:29 GMT
#160
Wow.
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