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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 15 2011 22:31 GMT
#41
I'll be interested in seeing if he can compete/continue to compete against good players with such low APM. At some point, and against some builds, it's just going to bite him in the ass.

Either way GL.
m0s1n0
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany575 Posts
September 16 2011 12:32 GMT
#42
On September 16 2011 07:31 On_Slaught wrote:
I'll be interested in seeing if he can compete/continue to compete against good players with such low APM. At some point, and against some builds, it's just going to bite him in the ass.

Either way GL.


Hmm he just pwned NaDa at Assembly Summer 2011 with his "low" apm while nada was clicking thousands of time in a second^^

Looking the hands of both in this match-up was just incredible crazy, but in the end the low apm-ler elfi won^^
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 12:41:37
September 16 2011 12:41 GMT
#43
APM are the most overrated thing since... Spanishiwa? ()...
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 16 2011 12:45 GMT
#44
On September 16 2011 21:32 m0s1n0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 07:31 On_Slaught wrote:
I'll be interested in seeing if he can compete/continue to compete against good players with such low APM. At some point, and against some builds, it's just going to bite him in the ass.

Either way GL.


Hmm he just pwned NaDa at Assembly Summer 2011 with his "low" apm while nada was clicking thousands of time in a second^^

Looking the hands of both in this match-up was just incredible crazy, but in the end the low apm-ler elfi won^^


Is that a good thing though? Kind of undermining the need for mechanics/multitasking. I'd prefer some heavier micro or macro advantages/opportunities if you have the ability to do it.
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
September 16 2011 12:58 GMT
#45
On September 15 2011 06:19 UniversalMind wrote:
wow 20 <.< he really got the short end of the stick in life, looks like he's 13 :/

User was temp banned for a history of bad posts.


Finnish winters are slowing aging progress, true story.
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RumTalk
Profile Joined October 2010
Jamaica135 Posts
September 16 2011 12:58 GMT
#46
On September 15 2011 11:26 Conquerer67 wrote:
Show nested quote +
i would rather be 20 and look 13, knowing that i will age slowly than be 20 and look 27, knowing that im aging quickly ^^


Exactly. Which is why I don't understand why...

+ Show Spoiler +
People smoke crack. Seriously, I know a guy who smokes it, he's 34, but he looks like he's 50. It would just be messed up to go through that, not to mention loosing your house, teeth, and family. Don't do drugs kids.


Back on topic. He's a pretty solid player, and I expect him to come higher into the spotlight pretty soon. Gl to him.


I rather doubt that guy u know smokes cuz he likes it
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
September 16 2011 13:02 GMT
#47
On September 16 2011 03:41 alepov wrote:
he cheesed every game i've ever seen of him (like ~10), hope he's really playing properly now as he said he got more confidence, gl in that case


He have beated Nada, NightEnd, Stephano, Tarson and Adelscott in straight up games on tournaments, you should check some vods or replays.

Elfi is great and friendly guy.
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mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
September 16 2011 13:12 GMT
#48
Great player and great interview - great things to come from elfi i'm sure!
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RuthUnderwood
Profile Joined September 2011
10 Posts
September 16 2011 17:28 GMT
#49
On September 15 2011 06:22 Slaytilost wrote:
My advice to him; find a proper way to sit. Otherwise you'll have RSI within no time.
Trust me, i learned the hard way.


this man speaks truth. i can testify in the affirmative.
American way-- how did it start? Genocide
Nerokas
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland56 Posts
September 16 2011 18:06 GMT
#50
Hes not solid.
Never do today what you can leave for tomorrow
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
September 16 2011 18:35 GMT
#51
There's no way that someone with such low APMs will go too far unless he boosts them.

Sure he's playing protoss, and sure there are some builds that you can get by with fewer APM.

But still he will never be as good as someone like select who can drop and multitask multiple fronts, or Idra who uses his APM to macro perfectly. There will be games where his shitty mechanics just shine through.
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
September 16 2011 18:45 GMT
#52
Man the stupidity of APM posters is sad. I remember Testie shutting out people in WCG's with like 120 apm with terran in SC1.
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Tonttu
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland606 Posts
September 16 2011 18:50 GMT
#53
EAPM > APM :/ But I hope Elfi can make some success and show some good games in WCG, IESF and IEM
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