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Starcraft 2 Science: Skillcraft's Study - Page 12

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NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
September 14 2011 04:48 GMT
#221
Now I have enough support for my argument that playing Starcraft helps science. I am definitely looking forward to the results. How will they be published? In a journal, online, etc.?
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 14 2011 10:22 GMT
#222
Done. For science and to support Starcraft 2.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
September 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#223
submitted good luck in your findings
pff
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
September 14 2011 12:02 GMT
#224
This looks pretty amazing ! I can't wait to see the results of your study.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
klo8
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria1960 Posts
September 14 2011 16:47 GMT
#225
I filled out the form and uploaded the replay yesterday. For Science!
This post is clearly not a hurr, as you can see from the graph, the durr never intersects with the derp.
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 14 2011 17:25 GMT
#226
In case people are interested, we are doing a data analysis contest on Reddit, here is part of the announcement.

THE SC2 DATA ANALYSIS CONTEST
Post your data analysis suggestions in (http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/kfjbk/skillcraft_replay_analysis_contest_thank_you/), and we will do the three analyses with the most upvotes!

Not all the analyses we do for the scientific report will be interesting to the average SC2 Player. Similarly, not all analyses that will interest players will be considered for our journal article. You are encouraged to submit analysis suggestions that will interest the typical gamer, that is, analyses that we might not do otherwise, but which the community might enjoy.

REPLAYS HAVE COMMANDS, AND ONLY COMMANDS
Remember, we are analyzing replays. Replay files hold all, and only, the commands that the players issue during the game. Replays show where people move units to, but don't show actual pathing. Replays show attack commands, but not unit deaths. Not even the death shriek of a ghost makes it into the replay. Analyses that are map specific are fine (and the kind of thing that wouldn't be in the journal article). Please, no questions regarding which races are IMBA (ie. 'Terran') or OP strats (like the 1-1-1).

NOTE: There will likely be analyses suggested that are not technically feasible, and obviously we won't be doing them, even if they are popular. I'll try to comment on those as I see them so people will know not to bother upvoting them.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/kfjbk/skillcraft_replay_analysis_contest_thank_you/
SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
Shrubbles
Profile Joined September 2011
Brazil29 Posts
September 14 2011 19:23 GMT
#227
My mind is blown... I love the Scientific aproach to things like starcraft, and I honestly think your results will be really intersting not only to the SC comunity but to everyone, it's not only a way to study skill development, but it can be a way to study and spread a way of life that exists since the first video game was created..
PeterUstinox
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Germany47 Posts
September 14 2011 19:39 GMT
#228
I did it for science! Portal-Style
Are you gonna drop a nuke or not?
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
September 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#229
I hope you guys find something, or atleast enough to convince that starcraft isnt a complete waste of time like my parents like to think.
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
September 14 2011 21:37 GMT
#230
Good Read
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 14 2011 21:45 GMT
#231
We're shutting down data collection on Friday, so if you have friends who haven't submitted, HURRY!
SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
antas
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia300 Posts
September 15 2011 02:33 GMT
#232
Did it yesterday For Aiur!!
Entaro Adun!
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 15 2011 10:25 GMT
#233
I did it a while back, can't wait to see the results of the study. I wonder what conclusions are going to come out of it. Who knows, we could find the more subtle differences between the top 5% and the top 1% of players.

Hope people can keep pitching in their replays, I'll ask my gold friend to submit before Friday comes.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
September 15 2011 12:56 GMT
#234
gl with this study sounds really intersting...
i wonder if starcraft helps me when i study :O
*rawr* d(^_^d)
Kreggar
Profile Joined September 2011
United States83 Posts
September 15 2011 14:06 GMT
#235
Science Complete!

This is an awesome study. I can't wait to see the results.
StarCraft is the hardest, most beautiful game in the world.
JackDiamonds
Profile Joined September 2011
7 Posts
September 15 2011 16:23 GMT
#236
Hey everyone,

Long story short, I'm doing some graduate work at the London School of Economics at their School of Management. Largely my work focuses around leadership and decision making and I think SC2 has a lot of value in proxy, or practice, decision making for young leaders.

Too often people are promoted into positions of authority without having the opportunity to develop their decision making skills sufficiently. This creates managers who are ineffective at finding solutions to problems outside their experience, often characterized as the "Peter's Principle" where people are promoted to the level of the incompetence.

SC2 is helpful in that it gives you the opportunity to practice crisis and non-imminent decision making, something Day[9] characterizes as in game and between game decision making. I suspect this works, anecdotally at least, because of my experiences.

I picked up SC2 last year after some time in the Canadian Forces as an infantry officer. Admittedly I played a bit of SC BW back in highschool, but I hadn't touched it in years. I placed in platinum, though, NA platinum. Arguably far higher than a relatively new player should. Certainly my macro/micro skills were not that strong. I suspect that my military skills played a role in the meta game, relating to timing and unit composition. Terran in particular has a number of overlaps with military tactics. Further, over the last year I was a policy analyst for the Canadian federal government and repeatedly found that SC2 planning and analysis has parallels to my real job.

Being the high-school football captain doesn't actually help you lead a boardroom meeting, or soldiers into combat, but it provides a baseline experience where you have practiced making decisions and leading people in safe, controlled environments. SC2 is the same for analytical skills.

I am looking to build a catalog of professionals who feel that their SC2, or related experience, has relevant, real world applications. Please, PM me if you are interested and have stories to share.
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
September 15 2011 18:47 GMT
#237
Interesting study, I hope it goes well! I remember when I was working on my dissertation, a doctoral learner was pushing a topic related to WoW or gaming (I can't recall). Unfortunately, he was shut down several times with the "so what?" wall that you must climb and show what your study will contribute to the field. It seems this approach is much more sound. It also helps not having a committee to convince (possibly only those funding the project). Again, best of luck!
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
September 15 2011 19:08 GMT
#238
On September 16 2011 03:47 DrSeRRoD wrote:
It also helps not having a committee to convince (possibly only those funding the project). Again, best of luck!


It can be tough when a dissertation committee just doesn't get it.
I'm glad I have Tenure.
SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
September 15 2011 19:42 GMT
#239
Any chance of updated stats or will we have to wait till the project is complete?
Nihn'kas Neehn
Houzi88
Profile Joined August 2010
18 Posts
September 15 2011 20:56 GMT
#240
AWESOME! BRILLIANT! AMAZING! BEST SCIENCE EVER IS SC2 SCIENCE! THE WORLD SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS STUDY!

QUICK POST THIS EVERYWHERE!
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