On September 08 2011 03:54 Shockk wrote: Unless IdrA switches the team or TLO joins EG, I have high hopes that we'll not see such a ridiculous amount of drama as with the last few transfers.
My bet would be that a large team picks up Sase.
I think TLO said he would rather die than join eg, or maybe that was jinro. not sure.
On September 08 2011 03:54 Shockk wrote: Unless IdrA switches the team or TLO joins EG, I have high hopes that we'll not see such a ridiculous amount of drama as with the last few transfers.
My bet would be that a large team picks up Sase.
I think TLO said on a stream chat or twitter that he would rather slit his own throat than join EG, or something like that.
Considering that there are a ton of European players, I'm expecting anything from this rumor.
I wonder how much commerce my european heart can take when it's about an announcement of an announcement of a player moving to an american team. I don't think it's that much.
After winning the Blizzcon Invitational, Ret said that he'd be willing to switch teams if another team offered a lot of money. I'm guessing its Ret switching to EG or something along those lines.
does this mean that in 2-3 days someone from EG will announce that some time next week they'll be announcing the fact that there will be an annoucment being announced soon?
or i think Sase to EG is a possibility
although i think if it was to do with EG there woulda been more hype or something
What I took from it was some EU players were going to be transferring and at the same time a north american team was going to be signing some new players. ]
I could see this being a partnership between Mouz or Dignitas and a Korean team, something similar to whats been happening with other teams lately. Both those European teams house players that can hold their own in Korea.
On September 08 2011 04:05 Raisauce wrote: After winning the Blizzcon Invitational, Ret said that he'd be willing to switch teams if another team offered a lot of money. I'm guessing its Ret switching to EG or something along those lines.
I hate to be repeating others, but I agree sase would seem like a somewhat sensible pickup for eg if this is eg we are talking about. I mean the house and all, they need another toss for huk I guess, he doesn't have a team... idk I would be psyched if they picked up thorzain or something but I hope he goes to slayers tbh.
wow i am thinking maybe Ret seems he is very close with all the EG guys and he does mention pitchforks stock and signing another liquid player would certainly get that reaction no? so many dramas!
On September 08 2011 04:05 Raisauce wrote: After winning the Blizzcon Invitational, Ret said that he'd be willing to switch teams if another team offered a lot of money. I'm guessing its Ret switching to EG or something along those lines.
My wild guess is Lucifron to EG. People were already speculating about that in the EG mystery announcement thread and he is really tearing it up lately. Maybe EG even starts a whole European branch.
On September 08 2011 04:05 Raisauce wrote: After winning the Blizzcon Invitational, Ret said that he'd be willing to switch teams if another team offered a lot of money. I'm guessing its Ret switching to EG or something along those lines.
On September 08 2011 04:05 Raisauce wrote: After winning the Blizzcon Invitational, Ret said that he'd be willing to switch teams if another team offered a lot of money. I'm guessing its Ret switching to EG or something along those lines.
On September 08 2011 04:05 Raisauce wrote: After winning the Blizzcon Invitational, Ret said that he'd be willing to switch teams if another team offered a lot of money. I'm guessing its Ret switching to EG or something along those lines.
Fragster.de: Can you imagine to join another team than TeamLiquid at any point at the future?
Ret: Well, of course, I mean I really like TeamLiquid. We got great team mates, great managers and great sponsors. I am really happy here so I don't see myself leaving, but if a company shows up and says "hey, you want this amount of money" ... I mean you can't be bound to a team as a player forever. But for a very long time I don't see myself leaving.
On September 08 2011 04:05 Raisauce wrote: After winning the Blizzcon Invitational, Ret said that he'd be willing to switch teams if another team offered a lot of money. I'm guessing its Ret switching to EG or something along those lines.
Clearly. Why else would Jinro grow the EG beard people?! It's been quite obvious since Raleigh
My god Jinro is so good-looking. I wish I was that good-looking, and that I could support a manly beard like that. Like, not to make anyone uncomfortable here but I think Jinro is a legitimately handsome man, and well-built at that. He's just a great-looking guy.
The beard accentuates his manliness.
In any case, it's highly highly unlikely that he'd join EG, as he has made statements to the effect that he would be uninterested in doing so.
On September 08 2011 04:05 Raisauce wrote: After winning the Blizzcon Invitational, Ret said that he'd be willing to switch teams if another team offered a lot of money. I'm guessing its Ret switching to EG or something along those lines.
He said the opposite, he is confortable with liquid and he would not be leaving soon. I suppose his conctract was running out too and a lot of team were asking him and he made it clear.
Mouz sends their lately mediocre CS-team everywhere, but we barely see their SC2-players attending events. ThorZaIN & MorroW to Columbus being the only recent? I dont know, maybe the players arent intrested.. and we know MLG is hardly worth the investment looking to their prizepurse.
Only speculation... but players that are possibly involved: stephano (wanted to go serious), xlord aswell and hes quite alone at mym, sase teamless, tod may switches teams. i guess one of those guys will join a team in korea? who knows
Not really that big of a news if it's player from Finland or Sixjax.
Elfi is freaking good, won both the qualifier for IEM NYC and IEM Guangzhou in a STACKED bracket..
I'm not saying that he isn't good or anything. But it isn't that big of a news for such hype. At least for me.
I'm fine with EG getting Elfi, i have nothing against it and i'm sure he is really good. Especially aftert i saw him play in Assembly and IEM as you said.
Oh and btw:
Kellymilkies:
Some pretty big news are going to be released tonight. Not #sc2 related though, but still big news. Pretty sad to hear it actually T_T!
who the hell knows what is happening. Two big news? -_-
On September 08 2011 04:41 motbob wrote: Prediction: Jinro, Ret, Haypro, Thorzain, and White-Ra are quitting SC2 and joining EG's brand new Dota 2 division.
News is that we find out that warren buffet is EGalex's dad. Buffet then proceeds to give 1 billion to EG and EG buys team IM and slayers, then holds do or die tournament for best other players in the world and top 8 go to new uber EG team. Simple no?
On September 08 2011 04:41 motbob wrote: Prediction: Jinro, Ret, Haypro, Thorzain, and White-Ra are quitting SC2 and joining EG's brand new Dota 2 division.
You are so wrong, on so many levels, how come prominent TL person can write something like this....trolling. Everybody knows it won't be Dota2.... it's Counter-Strike :D
Well SaSe was rumoured to join TSL, so I guess it'd be a team partnering up with TSL. Since coL has MVP and EG is kinda doing their own thing, it would have to be a different team if it was SaSe.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone outbidded aTn on Socke. EG.Socke would kinda make sense. Nerchio is a possibility as well.
On September 08 2011 04:50 Murdock wrote: Idra transitioning to diablo 3, since he figured out there is no such thing as protoss, terran and Nerchio in this game.
On September 08 2011 04:05 Raisauce wrote: After winning the Blizzcon Invitational, Ret said that he'd be willing to switch teams if another team offered a lot of money. I'm guessing its Ret switching to EG or something along those lines.
On September 08 2011 04:41 motbob wrote: Prediction: Jinro, Ret, Haypro, Thorzain, and White-Ra are quitting SC2 and joining EG's brand new Dota 2 division.
You are so wrong, on so many levels, how come prominent TL person can write something like this....trolling. Everybody knows it won't be Dota2.... it's Counter-Strike :D
But there is no moneh in counter strike and we all know they are just in it for the money!
If this was EG related we would have an announcement of an announcement, massive twitter trolling (more than just carmac), and a mysterious website with ambiguous clues.
On September 08 2011 03:57 Danika wrote: thorzain to slayers calling it now
though this isn't the announcement (as it's not about korea), i could actually see something like this happening. Slayers want to evolve eSports (e.g. SlayersEve) and getting some foreign blood could be good for this.
Mmm there are so many things that could happen. A lot of European players seem to not mesh well with their teams and a lot of movement could occur. Fnatic, after losing Sen, should probably be looking for another ace.
Hmm, ret could actually move to EG without a problem. He's friendly with IdrA, and that is more than can be said for a lot of people. Mouz seems strange- their players are all really damn good, but don't get much exposure. I agree that it might be a mouz move to a more affluent team.
I really hope it is one of the lesser known player or teamless players getting their break.
Also, can we all agree that whatever it is we won't go National Treasure all over TL with a 600 pages per day topic? Like, just be patient and try to make announcements of announcements go away by not responding to them anymore?
On September 08 2011 04:41 motbob wrote: Prediction: Jinro, Ret, Haypro, Thorzain, and White-Ra are quitting SC2 and joining EG's brand new Dota 2 division.
You are so wrong, on so many levels, how come prominent TL person can write something like this....trolling. Everybody knows it won't be Dota2.... it's Counter-Strike :D
fnatic is not a North American team. Its most likely EG, eventually Liquid (if they count as NA).
But it still was a "maybe", which is very confusing.
Longer I think: EG wants to make a Korean team house and maybe even a GSTL team. So I bet EG acquires Europeans who wants to play in Korea. Could be Sase/Naniwa/Thorzain/Sjow/?.
EG has 1 player in korea right now, one more coming up and another coming up later this year, that's three guys which is far away from being enough, especially if there are interested in participating in the gstl. I could see them buying sase and maybe picking up grubby again given that he'll go to korea around the same time idra will.
Other than that I could see some sort of mouz/slayers partnership given that thorzain seems to get along well with slayers. But out of all the possibilities I think EG is still the most likely one given that they don't have enough players in korea to even form a decent house atm.
It could consern fnatic, because kawaiirice posted some days ago on his twitter
FnaticMSIKawaii KawaiiRice yayy fnatic ^_^! good news soon
I read somewhere too that Hwangsin (?) asked sase when he was streaming if he was joining tsl, to what sase responded that he was streaming, so it seems to be still confidential.
It's been one year for many contracts so we could see some players quit their teams for an other like fr huk's case too.
On September 08 2011 03:54 Torumfroll wrote: Oh look, its another announcement of an announcement... REALLY?! Come on! When are people gonna stop doing that shit seriously?
When Newt Gingrich stops cheating on his wives.
(I believe he was the one that started all this nonsense.)
"I'd rather quit starcraft than join EG -_-" ~Jinro on his stream chat.
Sounds interesting. I'm guessing some dignitas/mouz players might be moving around?
Whew, thank god jinro feels that way xD
TL fighting!
Anyone who puts his tag before his own best interests will never succeed in an individual sport like SC2.
plus, it's easy to say stuff like that when your form is sh** and noone would make an offer in the first place. Hope people aren't too sensitive what I'm saying.
I'd be happy if Socke, Darkforce and Delphi move away from alternate attax, and Goody from ESC.
They're too focused on the German scene I feel. I mean, the EPS is great as the official German Bundesliga and everything, but it's actively preventing these guys from getting more international recognition.
HasuObs is the German player with the most international exposure, and it's clearly because he's on internationally-focused mouz.
"I'd rather quit starcraft than join EG -_-" ~Jinro on his stream chat.
Sounds interesting. I'm guessing some dignitas/mouz players might be moving around?
Whew, thank god jinro feels that way xD
TL fighting!
Anyone who puts his tag before his own best interests will never succeed in an individual sport like SC2.
plus, it's easy to say stuff like that when your form is sh** and noone would make an offer in the first place. Hope people aren't too sensitive what I'm saying.
That... doesnt make sense? If you stick with a team you wont succeed? What? You can be loyal to a team and still win shit.
Also you're implying that it isnt in Jinro's best interest to stay with TL, which i'd say it is. 100%.
What is with this new clan Type2? PhoeNix and Real joined it already. And yesterday i talk with alexis the manger of the team. He said they will add more really good players. And type2 has already a team house in düsseldorf,germany.
On September 08 2011 05:09 Bobster wrote: EG and Liquid are not involved, think a little people.
Either show everyone else why, or keep your mouth shut? :X
Pretty easy to predict that it's not a TL player if you know Carmac and his connexions in Europe. EG is done with acquisitions for now, scoots said so.
Hence, it's most probably not Liquid players or EG.
There's plenty of other, much more likely candidates (as some others familiar with the European scene have already stated) - I know this is Team Liquid and Evil Geniuses are kind of the NA team to talk about, but not everything in the non-Korean SC2 scene revolves around these two. To be frank, it's a bit annoying to see so many people completely disregard the plethora of other, more likely options.
You can either believe me, or you don't. No skin off my back.
On September 08 2011 05:18 MisterTea wrote: something to do with IM is my guess when they pickjed up fenix they said they had thier eyes on another player too?
On September 08 2011 05:09 Bobster wrote: EG and Liquid are not involved, think a little people.
Either show everyone else why, or keep your mouth shut? :X
Pretty easy to predict that it's not a TL player if you know Carmac and his connexions in Europe. EG is done with acquisitions for now, scoots said so.
Hence, it's most probably not Liquid players or EG.
There's plenty of other, much more likely candidates (as some others familiar with the European scene have already stated) - I know this is TL and EG is kind of a big deal as of now, but it's a bit annoying to see so many people completely disregard the plethora of other, more likely options.
You can either believe me, or you don't. No skin off my back.
...
The hint specifically mentioned a NA team. That leaves EG, TL, and I guess It's Gosu. Anyone else?
On September 08 2011 05:09 Bobster wrote: EG and Liquid are not involved, think a little people.
Either show everyone else why, or keep your mouth shut? :X
Pretty easy to predict that it's not a TL player if you know Carmac and his connexions in Europe. EG is done with acquisitions for now, scoots said so.
Hence, it's most probably not Liquid players or EG.
There's plenty of other, much more likely candidates (as some others familiar with the European scene have already stated) - I know this is TL and EG is kind of a big deal as of now, but it's a bit annoying to see so many people completely disregard the plethora of other, more likely options.
You can either believe me, or you don't. No skin off my back.
...
The hint specifically mentioned a NA team. That leaves EG, TL, and I guess It's Gosu. Anyone else?
On September 08 2011 05:09 Bobster wrote: EG and Liquid are not involved, think a little people.
Either show everyone else why, or keep your mouth shut? :X
Pretty easy to predict that it's not a TL player if you know Carmac and his connexions in Europe. EG is done with acquisitions for now, scoots said so.
Hence, it's most probably not Liquid players or EG.
There's plenty of other, much more likely candidates (as some others familiar with the European scene have already stated) - I know this is TL and EG is kind of a big deal as of now, but it's a bit annoying to see so many people completely disregard the plethora of other, more likely options.
You can either believe me, or you don't. No skin off my back.
...
The hint specifically mentioned a NA team. That leaves EG, TL, and I guess It's Gosu. Anyone else?
Complexity? And i don't know why people are saying TL is a NA team? Their HQ is in US, yes but the founders are from Europe.
On September 08 2011 05:09 Bobster wrote: EG and Liquid are not involved, think a little people.
Either show everyone else why, or keep your mouth shut? :X
Pretty easy to predict that it's not a TL player if you know Carmac and his connexions in Europe. EG is done with acquisitions for now, scoots said so.
Hence, it's most probably not Liquid players or EG.
There's plenty of other, much more likely candidates (as some others familiar with the European scene have already stated) - I know this is TL and EG is kind of a big deal as of now, but it's a bit annoying to see so many people completely disregard the plethora of other, more likely options.
You can either believe me, or you don't. No skin off my back.
...
The hint specifically mentioned a NA team. That leaves EG, TL, and I guess It's Gosu. Anyone else?
It is SaSe without a doubt. Thorzain is already heading back in either a day or two. He has a great thing going with Mouz anyway. I can see EG picking up SaSe, but with the massive amounts of players that they just added (in terms of $ numbers), I doubt they can afford another. And another EG Protoss? Really? I see FXO picking up SaSe as the best bet
On September 08 2011 05:09 Bobster wrote: EG and Liquid are not involved, think a little people.
Either show everyone else why, or keep your mouth shut? :X
Pretty easy to predict that it's not a TL player if you know Carmac and his connexions in Europe. EG is done with acquisitions for now, scoots said so.
Hence, it's most probably not Liquid players or EG.
There's plenty of other, much more likely candidates (as some others familiar with the European scene have already stated) - I know this is TL and EG is kind of a big deal as of now, but it's a bit annoying to see so many people completely disregard the plethora of other, more likely options.
You can either believe me, or you don't. No skin off my back.
...
The hint specifically mentioned a NA team. That leaves EG, TL, and I guess It's Gosu. Anyone else?
On September 08 2011 05:09 Bobster wrote: EG and Liquid are not involved, think a little people.
Either show everyone else why, or keep your mouth shut? :X
Pretty easy to predict that it's not a TL player if you know Carmac and his connexions in Europe. EG is done with acquisitions for now, scoots said so.
Hence, it's most probably not Liquid players or EG.
There's plenty of other, much more likely candidates (as some others familiar with the European scene have already stated) - I know this is TL and EG is kind of a big deal as of now, but it's a bit annoying to see so many people completely disregard the plethora of other, more likely options.
You can either believe me, or you don't. No skin off my back.
...
The hint specifically mentioned a NA team. That leaves EG, TL, and I guess It's Gosu. Anyone else?
"I'd rather quit starcraft than join EG -_-" ~Jinro on his stream chat.
Sounds interesting. I'm guessing some dignitas/mouz players might be moving around?
Whew, thank god jinro feels that way xD
TL fighting!
Anyone who puts his tag before his own best interests will never succeed in an individual sport like SC2.
plus, it's easy to say stuff like that when your form is sh** and noone would make an offer in the first place. Hope people aren't too sensitive what I'm saying.
Apparently he was on EGS "possible pickups" list. And the reason he said that is not because he hates EG, more that he is a liquid fanboy to the death and money is not what he is out for, if he want cash he would poker.
On September 08 2011 05:09 Bobster wrote: EG and Liquid are not involved, think a little people.
Either show everyone else why, or keep your mouth shut? :X
Pretty easy to predict that it's not a TL player if you know Carmac and his connexions in Europe. EG is done with acquisitions for now, scoots said so.
Hence, it's most probably not Liquid players or EG.
There's plenty of other, much more likely candidates (as some others familiar with the European scene have already stated) - I know this is TL and EG is kind of a big deal as of now, but it's a bit annoying to see so many people completely disregard the plethora of other, more likely options.
You can either believe me, or you don't. No skin off my back.
...
The hint specifically mentioned a NA team. That leaves EG, TL, and I guess It's Gosu. Anyone else?
Is TL a North American team?
TL isn't an American team. And Reign and Complexity are the bigger ones you are forgetting.
On September 08 2011 05:09 Bobster wrote: EG and Liquid are not involved, think a little people.
Either show everyone else why, or keep your mouth shut? :X
Pretty easy to predict that it's not a TL player if you know Carmac and his connexions in Europe. EG is done with acquisitions for now, scoots said so.
Hence, it's most probably not Liquid players or EG.
There's plenty of other, much more likely candidates (as some others familiar with the European scene have already stated) - I know this is TL and EG is kind of a big deal as of now, but it's a bit annoying to see so many people completely disregard the plethora of other, more likely options.
You can either believe me, or you don't. No skin off my back.
...
The hint specifically mentioned a NA team. That leaves EG, TL, and I guess It's Gosu. Anyone else?
On September 08 2011 05:09 Bobster wrote: EG and Liquid are not involved, think a little people.
Either show everyone else why, or keep your mouth shut? :X
Pretty easy to predict that it's not a TL player if you know Carmac and his connexions in Europe. EG is done with acquisitions for now, scoots said so.
Hence, it's most probably not Liquid players or EG.
There's plenty of other, much more likely candidates (as some others familiar with the European scene have already stated) - I know this is TL and EG is kind of a big deal as of now, but it's a bit annoying to see so many people completely disregard the plethora of other, more likely options.
You can either believe me, or you don't. No skin off my back.
...
The hint specifically mentioned a NA team. That leaves EG, TL, and I guess It's Gosu. Anyone else?
TL founded by Victor "Nazgul" Goossens and Joy "Meat" Hoogeveen does not not make it a NA team does it?
Virus Gaming didn't have any money to send elfi on the IEM so they released him. He is joining a team who can support his travel costs. It makes sense.
On September 08 2011 05:40 yagsllab wrote: i dont understand im new to the starcraft community but can teams just "buy" players as if they were "items" which dont have "souls"
Pretty much, exists in all sports. It is the business of the game.
On September 08 2011 04:05 Raisauce wrote: After winning the Blizzcon Invitational, Ret said that he'd be willing to switch teams if another team offered a lot of money. I'm guessing its Ret switching to EG or something along those lines.
On September 08 2011 05:40 yagsllab wrote: i dont understand im new to the starcraft community but can teams just "buy" players as if they were "items" which dont have "souls"
Pretty much, exists in all sports. It is the business of the game.
k do pros earn monthly cheques or only through prize winnings. sry for my bad english im new
On September 08 2011 05:40 yagsllab wrote: i dont understand im new to the starcraft community but can teams just "buy" players as if they were "items" which dont have "souls"
Pretty much, exists in all sports. It is the business of the game.
k do pros earn monthly cheques or only through prize winnings. sry for my bad english im new
What seems to be the case: EG pros earn decent salaries. Liquid pros earn at least slightly worse salaries. Every other team is a little hit or miss. Some just provide travel support, some provide free gear, some provide only living expenses, some provide a salary.
On September 08 2011 05:09 Bobster wrote: EG and Liquid are not involved, think a little people.
Either show everyone else why, or keep your mouth shut? :X
Pretty easy to predict that it's not a TL player if you know Carmac and his connexions in Europe. EG is done with acquisitions for now, scoots said so.
Hence, it's most probably not Liquid players or EG.
There's plenty of other, much more likely candidates (as some others familiar with the European scene have already stated) - I know this is TL and EG is kind of a big deal as of now, but it's a bit annoying to see so many people completely disregard the plethora of other, more likely options.
You can either believe me, or you don't. No skin off my back.
...
The hint specifically mentioned a NA team. That leaves EG, TL, and I guess It's Gosu. Anyone else?
On September 08 2011 05:42 Sleight wrote: Carnac tweet @SIRSCOOTS about pitchforks. Meaning 1) it is EG, 2) it is a community favorite, and 3) it's one we aren't going to be happy about.
Biggest EU player you can think of who is teamless? Is everyone really on SaSe? I feel like he has yet to perform up to what EG picks up in recruits.
EDIT: The community is not going to raise pitchforks about SASE. It's gotta be someone on a team we like.
On September 08 2011 04:05 Raisauce wrote: After winning the Blizzcon Invitational, Ret said that he'd be willing to switch teams if another team offered a lot of money. I'm guessing its Ret switching to EG or something along those lines.
On September 08 2011 05:40 yagsllab wrote: i dont understand im new to the starcraft community but can teams just "buy" players as if they were "items" which dont have "souls"
Pretty much, exists in all sports. It is the business of the game.
k do pros earn monthly cheques or only through prize winnings. sry for my bad english im new
What seems to be the case: EG pros earn decent salaries. Liquid pros earn at least slightly worse salaries. Every other team is a little hit or miss. Some just provide travel support, some provide free gear, some provide only living expenses, some provide a salary.
okey thank u. i think i apply on eg later because they pay te most i am very good at computer games
Can't see Thorzain going, he moved back in May to mouz. Can't see Ret, Jinro, or Nerchio either. Doesn't Dimaga usually have VISA issues? I know its hard for eastern Europe to get one, so it doesn't make sense for him to go to a North American team.
On September 08 2011 03:54 FryktSkyene wrote: Was it jinro and tlo that said they would quit sc2 before they joined EG?
Either or, Jinro and TLO wouldn't join EG i think
Edit: Nvm edit to :p
tlo actually said he'd rather cut his throat than joining eg :D
Well, why would EG even be intrestet in TLO? Anyway, I hardly think it is EG related. Carmac announced it so it will be probably about an EU-Team (probably not international) and he sad only "maybe" and American-Team.
All i could think about is Sase, Ret, Dimaga or Nerchio. Jinro and TLO has been under performing lately so i doubt it involve them. It will be probably be Sase if EG is involve since he is in Korea now.
On September 08 2011 05:55 ilikeLIONZ wrote: i got the feeling that nani is gonna switch teams...
He is currently in the best EU team, unless he gets a "live-changing" offer from EG I don't see him leaving. In addition the Dignitas trio will be next month(s?) in Korea.
On September 08 2011 05:42 Sleight wrote: Carnac tweet @SIRSCOOTS about pitchforks. Meaning 1) it is EG, 2) it is a community favorite, and 3) it's one we aren't going to be happy about.
Biggest EU player you can think of who is teamless? Is everyone really on SaSe? I feel like he has yet to perform up to what EG picks up in recruits.
EDIT: The community is not going to raise pitchforks about SASE. It's gotta be someone on a team we like.
Link to the tweet in question before we go on that tangent.
On September 08 2011 06:01 Slusher wrote: I don't know why nobody considers Sixjax, after getting rid of Major they could use a good player to replace him.
i think some of u are fooling yourselfs if u think liquid is going to lose a player to EG.. no disrespect to ret or damaga but EG already has some of the best zergs in the world (machine,idra,axslave) and mOoNgLaDe is a free agent so i think we can safely asume they want a protoss allstar lineup like they have zerg. Huk, incontrol and new EG member TT1 is my guess.
On September 08 2011 06:04 Juanald wrote: i think some of u are fooling yourselfs if u think liquid is going to lose a player to EG.. no disrespect to ret or damaga but EG already has some of the best zergs in the world (machine,idra,axslave) and mOoNgLaDe is a free agent so i think we can safely asume they want a protoss allstar lineup like they have zerg. Huk, incontrol and new EG member TT1 is my guess.
Axslav is a protoss though, and honestly Machine is not that good in my opinion.
EDIT: Also TT1 is not from Europe so I doubt that also.
Naniwa would be plausable he wants to train with the best so he can become one, a house with IdrA Huk and Puma would without a doubt be very appealing to him. I think it's going to be naniwa.
On September 08 2011 06:08 resilve wrote: Heads will roll if its EG, nd if they have picked up a fan favorite.
Pointless speculating past that point currently
I'm still not sure why people hate a team for paying players. Dam that team for making a player a better deal than his current team is, dam them to heck? It makes no sense.
It's fnatic (because they pretty much already said it's them) and it's them signing a well-known player from another team (because of all the hints of drama).
I bet it's Nerchio. He's tearing apart everything, he beat Idra recently (again). Won't be surprised if EG picks him up, because that's how they deal with those kind of things. ^^
Plus, if the team is indeed EG, they just got Huk - they won't be needing another top protoss so soon.
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
Money?
But no seriously, I don't think NaNiwa is moving anywhere. I certainly hope/think it is SaSe joining any major team. Whether it be complexity or EG or whoever. He deserves to be on a strong team. And those 2 are probably the big ones in terms of training in Korea right now.
I think something's up with Fnatic. They just released a promotional video for their professional gaming teams. Not a frame of that video contained SC2 material or players. Maybe they are focusing on other games? Unless there is something I don't know about the SC2 team being separated from the other games.
On September 08 2011 06:08 resilve wrote: Heads will roll if its EG, nd if they have picked up a fan favorite.
Pointless speculating past that point currently
I'm still not sure why people hate a team for paying players. Dam that team for making a player a better deal than his current team is, dam them to heck? It makes no sense.
Yep, its completely illogical, and yet true.
EG are an established legitimate e-sports team, and good on them - but to me it seems like there is a whiff of some rich oligarch buying a sporting team and just throwing money at the wall till a trophy appears.
I don't like to see small teams that are really on knife edges financially just to make ends meet, losing their grown and blossomed talent to someone with a deep wallet. Im not saying this is in any way true, but its the sense that I think a lot of people slamming EG for buying huk and puma have.
Its ugly when money talks more than loyalty/commitment/fans etc, and yet we should'nt be suprised or angry about it.
On September 08 2011 06:08 resilve wrote: Heads will roll if its EG, nd if they have picked up a fan favorite.
Pointless speculating past that point currently
I'm still not sure why people hate a team for paying players. Dam that team for making a player a better deal than his current team is, dam them to heck? It makes no sense.
Yep, its completely illogical, and yet true.
EG are an established legitimate e-sports team, and good on them - but to me it seems like there is a whiff of some rich oligarch buying a sporting team and just throwing money at the wall till a trophy appears.
I don't like to see small teams that are really on knife edges financially just to make ends meet, losing their grown and blossomed talent to someone with a deep wallet. Im not saying this is in any way true, but its the sense that I think a lot of people slamming EG for buying huk and puma have.
Its ugly when money talks more than loyalty/commitment/fans etc, and yet we should'nt be suprised or angry about it.
It's called attachment to a team and its players, and it happens in every competitive sport. Otherwise why would the Miami Heat get so much hate?
On September 08 2011 06:08 resilve wrote: Heads will roll if its EG, nd if they have picked up a fan favorite.
Pointless speculating past that point currently
I'm still not sure why people hate a team for paying players. Dam that team for making a player a better deal than his current team is, dam them to heck? It makes no sense.
Yep, its completely illogical, and yet true.
EG are an established legitimate e-sports team, and good on them - but to me it seems like there is a whiff of some rich oligarch buying a sporting team and just throwing money at the wall till a trophy appears.
I don't like to see small teams that are really on knife edges financially just to make ends meet, losing their grown and blossomed talent to someone with a deep wallet. Im not saying this is in any way true, but its the sense that I think a lot of people slamming EG for buying huk and puma have.
Its ugly when money talks more than loyalty/commitment/fans etc, and yet we should'nt be suprised or angry about it.
It's called attachment to a team and its players, and it happens in every competitive sport. Otherwise why would the Miami Heat get so much hate?
Maybe in team games but Starcraft is not team based. Really a player swopping teams is like a tennis player switching coach.
Its got to be something related to Fnatic, after they lost Fenix, a representative from the team made mention of a acquiring a few other players in that Fenix goes to IM thread. Or was it the thread about Fenix parting ways with Fnatic? Either way, I'm certain its Fnatic.
SaSe said he wasn't close to strike a deal with any team at the moment on Rakaka's livestream interview. So I don't actually think he's the one (he might've not been allowed to say anything though, but then I'd think he'd say something like "I have some things going but nothing is clear yet" or whatever). My guess would be Nerchio or Stephano (who's not on the list), as booth of them have shown some nice results lately and booth of them is in "smaller" teams.
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
like everyone below demuslim is "unknown" and by unknown i mean not accomplished yet in sc2, i like axslav from wc3 but that doesnt make him 1st place mlg like naniwa.
On September 08 2011 06:01 Slusher wrote: I don't know why nobody considers Sixjax, after getting rid of Major they could use a good player to replace him.
Read the first few pages, forget which one, but i already mentioned sixjax. my guess is someone picked em up. they are pretty good, just never flown out to events. id LF a real team too.
"I'd rather quit starcraft than join EG -_-" ~Jinro on his stream chat.
Sounds interesting. I'm guessing some dignitas/mouz players might be moving around?
I dislike so much this statement coming from a professional.. props to HuK for making the right choice for his future, i guess haters will hate and idealists will idealise.
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
like everyone below demuslim is "unknown" and by unknown i mean not accomplished yet in sc2, i like axslav from wc3 but that doesnt make him 1st place mlg like naniwa.
Incontrol Machine lzGaMeR unknown?
machine fan or not u cant deny hes top 5 if not top 3 foreign zerg sense retail.. lzGaMeR revolutionized tvz inventing 3rax reaper old school pro sense retail... incontrol has been top 16 every mlg how is that unknown cmon
axslav and strifecrow are less known i agree but dont count them out yet they practice in the EG team house with the best...
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
Top tier? Ok. How about everybody below Puma? 1/3 of the team could be considered "Top tier", and i'm being generous considering Idra's recent results.
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
like everyone below demuslim is "unknown" and by unknown i mean not accomplished yet in sc2, i like axslav from wc3 but that doesnt make him 1st place mlg like naniwa.
Incontrol Machine lzGaMeR unknown?
machine fan or not u cant deny hes top 5 if not top 3 foreign zerg sense retail.. lzGaMeR revolutionized tvz inventing 3rax reaper old school pro sense retail... incontrol has been top 16 every mlg how is that unknown cmon
axslav and strifecrow are less known i agree but dont count them out yet they practice in the EG team house with the best...
I've always been a big inc fan but realistically after multiple lackluster mlgs he can't possibly be considered top tier. Machine is not top 5 foreigner zerg. Nerchio, Stephano, dimaga, Sen, and Morrow are all better lzGaMer did not revolutionize tvz and I haven't ever seen him win something big :S
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
like everyone below demuslim is "unknown" and by unknown i mean not accomplished yet in sc2, i like axslav from wc3 but that doesnt make him 1st place mlg like naniwa.
Incontrol Machine lzGaMeR unknown?
machine fan or not u cant deny hes top 5 if not top 3 foreign zerg sense retail.. lzGaMeR revolutionized tvz inventing 3rax reaper old school pro sense retail... incontrol has been top 16 every mlg how is that unknown cmon
axslav and strifecrow are less known i agree but dont count them out yet they practice in the EG team house with the best...
From the top of my head i find Morrow, Stephano, Lalush, Nerchio, Ret, Haypro, Idra, Dimaga, Happyzerg, Vibe better zergs then Machine... probably forgot some
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
are you serious? huk and puma are the only top tier players on this team. idra isn't a real competitor by any means, this kid has mental issues to overcome before he can be regarded as a top tier player. demuslim is pretty solid i guess and if he continues to practise hard maybe he'll shine soon. everyone else, there isn't much to say about.
I still don't understand why everyone seems to be so focused on EG.
I mean, they are probably the most successful NA team out there atm, but you guys are acting as if they were the only one. It's a disservice to the other hardworking teams.
On September 08 2011 08:20 Bobster wrote: I still don't understand why everyone seems to be so focused on EG.
I mean, they are probably the most successful NA team out there atm, but you guys are acting as if they were the only one. It's a disservice to the other hardworking teams.
Other hardworking teams are not actively recruiting as many players
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
are you serious? huk and puma are the only top tier players on this team. idra isn't a real competitor by any means, this kid has mental issues to overcome before he can be regarded as a top tier player. demuslim is pretty solid i guess and if he continues to practise hard maybe he'll shine soon. everyone else, there isn't much to say about.
i guess it depends on what youre definition of top tear is. in my opinion any player on EG would go far in GSL or any foriegn tourney they enter... you cant argue with results.
"I'd rather quit starcraft than join EG -_-" ~Jinro on his stream chat.
Sounds interesting. I'm guessing some dignitas/mouz players might be moving around?
I dislike so much this statement coming from a professional.. props to HuK for making the right choice for his future, i guess haters will hate and idealists will idealise.
On September 08 2011 08:20 Bobster wrote: I still don't understand why everyone seems to be so focused on EG.
I mean, they are probably the most successful NA team out there atm, but you guys are acting as if they were the only one. It's a disservice to the other hardworking teams.
Not really, because this is not about whether a team is hardworking or not. Its about a team having the money to get a European top player to transfer to them. One might also assume that it is a team that can get this player to Korea, as this would be a prime motivation for this transfer. So EG seems to be a very good guess. Fnatic would be the only other NA possibility imo.
I am somehow thinking about mouz players first here. Maybe Morrow, because I can very much imagine him wanting to go to Korea. On the other hand there are these rumours taht there is a German player involved, but I have no idea who of them has ambitions to change his team.
On September 08 2011 08:27 chestnutman wrote: Don't pay too much attention to the troll ^^. Anyone found out what Kelly's sad announcement was about? .
I believe "Transfers coming up involving prominent European #SC2 players " means some of the Polish players coz earlier on Carmac tweeted this: "Just took the first step towards realising one of my newest life goals. Wish me luck, especially if you're Polish".
Being Polish I hope I'm close to being right. I wouldn't be suprised if ESL or other organisation that Carmac's connected to (ESL would be weird though, I'm just out of ideas) got their own sponsored team. I could be overextending myself here though.
Other than that, any EG hiring type rumours seem senseless to me coz Carmac is in no way connected to those guys (as in bussiness type connection). Why would he be tweeting about someone else's stuff? That's even unprofessional. You can say a lot of things about Carmac but what you definately can not say is that he is unprofessional. That's gotta be some kind of his own project.
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
are you serious? huk and puma are the only top tier players on this team. idra isn't a real competitor by any means, this kid has mental issues to overcome before he can be regarded as a top tier player. demuslim is pretty solid i guess and if he continues to practise hard maybe he'll shine soon. everyone else, there isn't much to say about.
i guess it depends on what youre definition of top tear is. in my opinion any player on EG would go far in GSL or any foriegn tourney they enter... you cant argue with results.
Not trying to be offensive here and I do have respect for EG, but many of them really lack the results "that we can't argue about"...
On September 08 2011 08:34 maybelunarox wrote: I believe "Transfers coming up involving prominent European #SC2 players " means some of the Polish players coz earlier on Carmac tweeted this: "Just took the first step towards realising one of my newest life goals. Wish me luck, especially if you're Polish".
Being Polish I hope I'm close to being right. I wouldn't be suprised if ESL or other organisation that Carmac's connected to (ESL would be weird though, I'm just out of ideas) got their own sponsored team. I could be overextending myself here though.
Other than that, any EG hiring type rumours seem senseless to me coz Carmac is in no way connected to those guys (as in bussiness type connection). Why would he be tweeting about someone else's stuff? That's even unprofessional. You can say a lot of things about Carmac but what you definately can not say is that he is unprofessional. That's gotta be some kind of his own project.
Wow you might be on to something here. Especially as it seems to be more than one player. Maybe with "Transfers coming up involving prominent European #SC2 players and maybe a North American team." Carmac actually means a transfer FROM and not TO a NA team. And yes, all his other tweets make it indeed look like the transfer was connected to Carmac.
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
are you serious? huk and puma are the only top tier players on this team. idra isn't a real competitor by any means, this kid has mental issues to overcome before he can be regarded as a top tier player. demuslim is pretty solid i guess and if he continues to practise hard maybe he'll shine soon. everyone else, there isn't much to say about.
i guess it depends on what youre definition of top tear is. in my opinion any player on EG would go far in GSL or any foriegn tourney they enter... you cant argue with results.
I can see a perspective where you call them top tier. But they would lose first round of GSL 95%. Of course you have to argue with results to evaluate players. You (and me) don't have the knowledge to judge by skill.
"I'd rather quit starcraft than join EG -_-" ~Jinro on his stream chat.
Sounds interesting. I'm guessing some dignitas/mouz players might be moving around?
I dislike so much this statement coming from a professional.. props to HuK for making the right choice for his future, i guess haters will hate and idealists will idealise.
Yeah, because fuck principles, right?
i don't understand your response. when you are a professional you play for the money and you make the best business choices you can make, the rest is irrelevant in my eyes. there would be nothing wrong if jinro was asked to joined EG (with more money ofc) and refused because liquid is a family etc.. it would just be a wrong career option.
on topic though: i think we are looking at EG.SaSe here and a 4player eg team house in korea.
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
are you serious? huk and puma are the only top tier players on this team. idra isn't a real competitor by any means, this kid has mental issues to overcome before he can be regarded as a top tier player. demuslim is pretty solid i guess and if he continues to practise hard maybe he'll shine soon. everyone else, there isn't much to say about.
i guess it depends on what youre definition of top tear is. in my opinion any player on EG would go far in GSL or any foriegn tourney they enter... you cant argue with results.
EG has 3 players who could hold their own in GSL or any other tournament that has Koreans. I think MLG has shown this to be true.
Thought it would be fnatic because they mentioned in the fenix thread they had new player announcements but if they are not a NA team then I guess it is not them.
If hero was recruited to TL to replace huk then maybe sheth was recruited to replace someone too. EGret
On September 08 2011 08:56 makk wrote: Thought it would be fnatic because they mentioned in the fenix thread they had new player announcements but if they are not a NA team then I guess it is not them.
If hero was recruited to TL to replace huk then maybe sheth was recruited to replace someone too. EGret
On September 08 2011 08:56 makk wrote: Thought it would be fnatic because they mentioned in the fenix thread they had new player announcements but if they are not a NA team then I guess it is not them.
If hero was recruited to TL to replace huk then maybe sheth was recruited to replace someone too. EGret
On September 08 2011 08:56 makk wrote: Thought it would be fnatic because they mentioned in the fenix thread they had new player announcements but if they are not a NA team then I guess it is not them.
If hero was recruited to TL to replace huk then maybe sheth was recruited to replace someone too. EGret
Fnatic is a NA team. So it's likely them.
No, they're not. They're still a British/Australian team.
Putting two and two together, tweet mentions " prominent European #SC2players and maybe NA team". There's more than one person involved. It actually seems like kind of a big deal. I don't think Carmac'd be tweeting about this stuff if he wasn't somehow connected to it.
There's a possibility that I'm might be putting too much of a meaning into particular words but I do try to involve Carmac's personality in this (to the extend I know him as a gaming persona). And Carmac can be fooling around, Uszat/Athene lifting etc. But when it comes to serious stuff he doesn't really make bad moves. So what I'm trying to say is, I don't think I'm reading too much into it. I actually think there might be something around the corner.
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
like everyone below demuslim is "unknown" and by unknown i mean not accomplished yet in sc2, i like axslav from wc3 but that doesnt make him 1st place mlg like naniwa.
Incontrol Machine lzGaMeR unknown?
machine fan or not u cant deny hes top 5 if not top 3 foreign zerg sense retail.. lzGaMeR revolutionized tvz inventing 3rax reaper old school pro sense retail... incontrol has been top 16 every mlg how is that unknown cmon
axslav and strifecrow are less known i agree but dont count them out yet they practice in the EG team house with the best...
On September 08 2011 06:30 Elem wrote: Why would Naniwa leave the strongest foreign team for the one with 2 1/2 superstars and the rest mid-low tier NA players?
if your serious ill have some of wot ur smoking LOL...
find one player on that list that isnt top tear ..
like everyone below demuslim is "unknown" and by unknown i mean not accomplished yet in sc2, i like axslav from wc3 but that doesnt make him 1st place mlg like naniwa.
Incontrol Machine lzGaMeR unknown?
machine fan or not u cant deny hes top 5 if not top 3 foreign zerg sense retail.. lzGaMeR revolutionized tvz inventing 3rax reaper old school pro sense retail... incontrol has been top 16 every mlg how is that unknown cmon
axslav and strifecrow are less known i agree but dont count them out yet they practice in the EG team house with the best...
MorroW Ret Nerchio at least ><
Just because they're known doesn't make them good... And no, machine is not top 5 lol...
Ret seems a likely candidate, won the European invitational and was wishy washy on the topic of changing teams, Liquid just recruited Sheth, and if Ret's liquid contract was 12 months it will be up in September. His results have been up there, so trying to hold on to him when high offers came around would be difficult.
On September 08 2011 13:12 Dingobloo wrote: Ret seems a likely candidate, won the European invitational and was wishy washy on the topic of changing teams, Liquid just recruited Sheth, and if Ret's liquid contract was 12 months it will be up in September. His results have been up there, so trying to hold on to him when high offers came around would be difficult.
Could be and well EG is my fav team and i love Ret but man TL would go insane if that happen
I doubt its EG, they just spent a ton of money on some awesome players.
However... their previous website (the count down clock) did hint at some additional players so who knows.. either way, I'm not expecting EG to have another major announcement but I guess at the end of the day I wouldnt be surprised if it were them.
On September 08 2011 16:24 robih wrote: elfitaja to EG or TL or something
Ive always wonder.. does TL count as a North American team?
Nazgul (apologize in advanced if this is wrong) is from Sweden, and a few TL players are also from Sweden (Ret, Haypro, Jinro.) They do have 2 very well known and successful NA guys in Tyler and Sheth though.
Just wondering if TL actually considers themselves a NA team or more of a Global/International team.
Edit: Botched the countries.. sorry Nazgul and Ret lol. (They are from the Netherland not, Sweden, thanks to Yaki and JBanKs for the corrections)
On September 08 2011 16:24 robih wrote: elfitaja to EG or TL or something
Ive always wonder.. does TL count as a North American team?
Nazgul (apologize in advanced if this is wrong) is from Sweden, and a few TL players are also from Sweden (Ret, Haypro, Jinro.) They do have 2 very well known and successful NA guys in Tyler and Sheth though.
Just wondering if TL actually considers themselves a NA team or more of a Global/International team.
Ret and Nazgul are from the Netherlands, Haypro and Jinro are from Sweden.
why do people think that players moving to EG is a good thing? their becoming to big for their own good with very little current returns....how many players can a team have really?
just seems like their are chucking money and contracts around like candy...half their players have zero hope of winning 1 tourny let alone having some sort of consistent top 8 runs in the near future.
instead of EG throwing money at more players maybe they wanna sort out the basics like having streams that dont lag every 30minutes? or fixing the arrogant nature of some of their players? just a thought......
Jinro never leaves Liquid. Ever. The man IS everything Liquid stands for. It'd be like Captain America siding with the Nazi's xD (And EG is my favorite team, lol)
On September 08 2011 21:14 common_cider wrote: EG'Jinro and EG'TLO is a done deal IMO. They both have been wanting pay increases I think and EG haz the money
I barely understand your point, and yet I still know you're talking out of your ass.
On September 08 2011 21:14 common_cider wrote: EG'Jinro and EG'TLO is a done deal IMO. They both have been wanting pay increases I think and EG haz the money
On September 08 2011 16:24 robih wrote: elfitaja to EG or TL or something
Ive always wonder.. does TL count as a North American team?
Nazgul (apologize in advanced if this is wrong) is from Sweden, and a few TL players are also from Sweden (Ret, Haypro, Jinro.) They do have 2 very well known and successful NA guys in Tyler and Sheth though.
Just wondering if TL actually considers themselves a NA team or more of a Global/International team.
Edit: Botched the countries.. sorry Nazgul and Ret lol. (They are from the Netherland not, Sweden, thanks to Yaki and JBanKs for the corrections)
TL is an international team I think they also consider themself like that dunno for sure though.
On September 08 2011 21:14 common_cider wrote: EG'Jinro and EG'TLO is a done deal IMO. They both have been wanting pay increases I think and EG haz the money
I barely understand your point, and yet I still know you're talking out of your ass.
its gunna happen bro. jinro would go to EG korea house
On September 08 2011 21:14 common_cider wrote: EG'Jinro and EG'TLO is a done deal IMO. They both have been wanting pay increases I think and EG haz the money
I barely understand your point, and yet I still know you're talking out of your ass.
its gunna happen bro. jinro would go to EG korea house
Stop trolling, as stated before in thread Jinro would rather quit then join EG.
Sry, but right now EG.Painuser was more worth the money.
Hahahahhaha nice one
didn't Painuser made it farther in the last mlg than Jinro? And that without even practising for it and beeing a caster. It either tells much about his talent or it shows that in sc2 everyone can make it far (yet)
Sry, but right now EG.Painuser was more worth the money.
Hahahahhaha nice one
didn't Painuser made it farther in the last mlg than Jinro? And that without even practising for it and beeing a caster. It either tells much about his talent or it shows that in sc2 everyone can make it far (yet)
I think Painuser is way better then people give him created for
Sry, but right now EG.Painuser was more worth the money.
Hahahahhaha nice one
didn't Painuser made it farther in the last mlg than Jinro? And that without even practising for it and beeing a caster. It either tells much about his talent or it shows that in sc2 everyone can make it far (yet)
I think Painuser is way better then people give him created for
My thoughts exactly!
btt i guess elfi would be a good pick for every team, he qualified for IEM Global Challenges New York and Guangzhou, for the WCG Global Finals and for the IeSF Global Finals, what he needs to do to get attention?
Okay, we have a few things to keep in mind. First off is what team they may switch too. Everyone is assuming its EG, but it could be complexity, or really any other smaller team trying to get bigger by making a big move.
Second is which player, and we have no clue. So I wont speculate on that. Kind of amazing that a hype thread wasn't even created by the team. We created a pre-hype thread hype thread based off one twitter update.
I was thinking ToD would either stay in France (Cybernation? aAa?) or go to Asia again with his history. Having a NA team involved in a ToD transfer would be kinda strange.
On September 08 2011 22:59 repsac wrote: thorzain juss signed with mouz, nobody wants dimaga, sase obv.
Doesn't everybody want Dimaga, it's just that he's committed to staying in Ukraine and won't leave except for certain European events?
I remember after the Worlds (where he beat MVP and Nestea) that a certain Korean team (don't remember which) asked him to join, but he declined because he's rooted to his home country.
dont understand people say "not again" ... its good for players moving in better teams and all, sc2 is the first game for me people are so mad about the players when change a team ... its life Sase would make change after he want to stay in korea
On September 08 2011 22:59 repsac wrote: thorzain juss signed with mouz, nobody wants dimaga, sase obv.
Doesn't everybody want Dimaga, it's just that he's committed to staying in Ukraine and won't leave except for certain European events?
I remember after the Worlds (where he beat MVP and Nestea) that a certain Korean team (don't remember which) asked him to join, but he declined because he's rooted to his home country.
It was STARTALE but he is committed to mTw. I do agree with you though and anyone who WOULDNT want dimaga is crazy.
Hmm....any idea why ToD is leaving or do we have to wait?
The article say : "Look at JToD (ToD weakly Web TV show in french) tonight, Bjoran (Millenium boss) and ToD will answer your questions about his left".
So no, no reason in the article.
Btw, in my opinion : ToD is qualified for WCG and want to train in Korea before the event as much time as possible. Problem : It's not free, and Millenium is not as rich as other teams.
Translation: It's with great grief that Millenium announce we won't be working with ToD anymore in a near future. After four months in our team, a departure, and then a great return in July, the Protoss player and Millenium decided to part ways with mutual agreement for the second time.
Coming to Millenium in the beginning of January, ToD quickly showed he adapted well to the new Blizzard RTS and that his transition from WC3 had gone well. His performance at the Re-So LAN and during the Millenium Cup showed everyone he could beat the best players in France and Europe.
Since a first disagreement between the two sides, everything seemed to go well and Millenium fulfilled the wish of the player by sending him to MLG Anaheim. Yet, the future projects of both the team and the player make any further collaboration impossible.
We won't state here the exact reaons on ToD's departure, but we invite you to watch the JToD broadcast tonight at 8:00PM CEST on Millenium TV. During the last show of the Protoss player, Bjoran, Millenium's general manager, will intervene with Yoan to answer your questions and to shed light on numerous points.
/Translation
My guess: ToD wants to go to Korea and Millenium doesn't have the money to send him there / wants all their players to compete in european events rather that other events.
ToD to a team that could send him to Korea would be great, he has shown a whole lot of potential lately, in addition to the beast he was in WC3.
To which team is another question.
EG is going to have this teamhouse in Korea but I don't think it would be EG because : - If it was EG, we would have had an announcement of an annoucement of an annoucement of an annoucement etc. and not just a small Carmac tweet. - EG's roster is starting to get quite big, one more player would bring them to 10 players, that's a lot. - They just recruited the best foreign protoss.
Fnatic is a possibility, they have lost quite a lot of players lately (Sen and Fenix), they are not a "NA" team strictly speaking though.
Complexity is a bit the same thing as EG. They have buisness going on in korea, but their roster is quite big already.
Second tier NA teams (Sixjax, vvv etc.) seem unlikely, since it would be more of a downgrade from Millenium.
Or maybe it's not ToD, or maybe I't's not a NA team, or maybe Carmac is just trolling and nothing is going on Also if it's actually ToD, I hope that Sase finds a team soon
On September 08 2011 23:38 Raikia wrote: Did anyone suggest White-Ra he is a boss but he's not on a big team.
He is alone in his team, i think it's pretty good for him. He can choose his competitions, his sponsor just pay for him, not for a large amount of players, he has many fans witch his good for his sponsor, so good for him aswell, and he can just stay in Odessa with his wife and travel from time to time.
I dont think joining a big team would give him anything more. Maybe a training house, but he wont leave his wife neither Ukraine, so...no. I doubt it's about White-RA.
Translation: It's with great grief that Millenium announce we won't be working with ToD anymore in a near future. After four months in our team, a departure, and then a great return in July, the Protoss player and Millenium decided to part ways with mutual agreement for the second time.
Coming to Millenium in the beginning of January, ToD quickly showed he adapted well to the new Blizzard RTS and that his transition from WC3 had gone well. His performance at the Re-So LAN and during the Millenium Cup showed everyone he could beat the best players in France and Europe.
Since a first disagreement between the two sides, everything seemed to go well and Millenium fulfilled the wish of the player by sending him to MLG Anaheim. Yet, the future projects of both the team and the player make any further collaboration impossible.
We won't state here the exact reaons on ToD's departure, but we invite you to watch the JToD broadcast tonight at 8:00PM CEST on Millenium TV. During the last show of the Protoss player, Bjoran, Millenium's general manager, will intervene with Yoan to answer your questions and to shed light on numerous points.
/Translation
My guess: ToD wants to go to Korea and Millenium doesn't have the money to send him there / wants all their players to compete in european events rather that other events.
Dunno if its been mentioned, cba reading 20 pages but Sase mentioned on Rakaka.se's podcast that he's "quite far" from joining an team atm (this was yesterday or so). Also, Sase is currently team less, so it wouldn't be a transfer would it?
I'm pretty sure that Elfi is the one Carmac is talking about. It isnt hard to guess that he is in demand after his last results and in addition he is clanless. Maybe EG.Elfi or col.Elfi soon...
Sry, but right now EG.Painuser was more worth the money.
Hahahahhaha nice one
didn't Painuser made it farther in the last mlg than Jinro? And that without even practising for it and beeing a caster. It either tells much about his talent or it shows that in sc2 everyone can make it far (yet)
I think Painuser is way better then people give him created for
your definately right people just love 2 hate on people better then them. way back in the day they said the same about coL.crunCher even though he revolutionized PvZ with forcefield donuts and was competing with mc and boxer in tsl..
I dont think people realize the potential of Sase. He is a training beast! People have huge hopes on Naniwa for his winning mentality but Sase is crazy. Listening to an interview he did with rakaka.se and basicly he is gaming 24/7 and is unhappy that he is forced to eat when he wants to ladder more. I think he will be swedens best player before the year ends.
I agree to what sobba said, sase is willing to put in the time and effort only a few foreigners are willing to, and I feel like he sometimes plays more than some korreans do. He is willing to dedicate a lot to this game and realises that being in korea is necessary to be the best in this game, if anything I think it'd be the best for him to join a korrean team.
If it's about tod there are 3 teams who could offer him a place in korea: eg (soon), tl (ogs house) and col (mvp house), so I guess he'll have to join one of those teams if he wants to go to korea. One thing I love about all the ex warcraft 3 players is the fact that they realize that they have to go to korea and put in a lot of time to be at the top, unlike a lot of foreign ex bw players who seem to be fine with playing 3 hours a day.
I think Acer is gonna get some more players, Till now they got only Mondragon. Recently he started laddering again and is now in the top 25 europe. A sign that the team is gonna be active again.
On September 09 2011 01:18 Sobba wrote: I dont think people realize the potential of Sase. He is a training beast! People have huge hopes on Naniwa for his winning mentality but Sase is crazy. Listening to an interview he did with rakaka.se and basicly he is gaming 24/7 and is unhappy that he is forced to eat when he wants to ladder more. I think he will be swedens best player before the year ends.
On September 09 2011 01:43 Gaspadin wrote: I think Acer is gonna get some more players, Till now they got only Mondragon. Recently he started laddering again and is now in the top 25 europe. A sign that the team is gonna be active again.
On September 09 2011 01:43 Gaspadin wrote: I think Acer is gonna get some more players, Till now they got only Mondragon. Recently he started laddering again and is now in the top 25 europe. A sign that the team is gonna be active again.
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote: EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)
Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?
lol troll post?
Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?
.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?
Dont follow the scene closely? Or at least you dont follow Demuslim closely? To name the most recent, 1st on the NA GM, placed as the 3rd highest EG member at MLG Raleigh beating guys like Trickster in on the main stage, qualifying with IdrA for the China IEM by outplaying Fnatic Rain. You dont have to like him but those results aren't "nothing."
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote: EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)
Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?
lol troll post?
Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?
.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?
His recent run in MLG was pretty impressive, 6th foreigner(counting Select as foreigner), 14th overall, from the open bracket, but hey, everybody can do that, thats nothing.
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote: EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)
Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?
lol troll post?
Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?
.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?
His recent run in MLG was pretty impressive, 6th foreigner(counting Select as foreigner), 14th overall, from the open bracket, but hey, everybody can do that, thats nothing.
Sorry, didn't know 14th place at an MLG and being high ranked on ladder counted as "results" these days.
I'm not saying Demuslim is "bad", but you really cannot say he is good. By Korean standards he is completely off the map and by Foreigner standards he's a little above average.
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote: EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)
Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?
lol troll post?
Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?
.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?
His recent run in MLG was pretty impressive, 6th foreigner(counting Select as foreigner), 14th overall, from the open bracket, but hey, everybody can do that, thats nothing.
Sorry, didn't know 14th place at an MLG and being high ranked on ladder counted as "results" these days.
I'm not saying Demuslim is "bad", but you really cannot say he is good. By Korean standards he is completely off the map and by Foreigner standards he's a little above average.
Personally, i do not consider that good.
You are crazy. Top 16 at MLG with the current competition is certainly something.
DeMusliM is probably the best player currently living in North America after Rain. SeleCT is a contender as well, but... yeah. He's pretty damn good..
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote: EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)
Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?
lol troll post?
Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?
.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?
His recent run in MLG was pretty impressive, 6th foreigner(counting Select as foreigner), 14th overall, from the open bracket, but hey, everybody can do that, thats nothing.
Sorry, didn't know 14th place at an MLG and being high ranked on ladder counted as "results" these days.
I'm not saying Demuslim is "bad", but you really cannot say he is good. By Korean standards he is completely off the map and by Foreigner standards he's a little above average.
Personally, i do not consider that good.
Pretty sure beating Trickster (previously a code S status player, as of today is code A) in a Bo3 on the main stage at an MLG makes him a little bit better than completely off the map. Placing better than Idra at the very same MLG makes him way more than "above average" in the foreign scene. Not to mention he did all this coming from the open bracket, and unlike Trickster and Idra had to work his way to the championship bracket losing finally to Nada who went on to beat Puma. Downplay him all you want, but he's darn good to anyone who actually pays attention to the scene.
I would not be surprised if it´s ToD joining some new team - his announcement about going to korea + leaving Millenium... the timing could not be more fitting
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote: EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)
Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?
lol troll post?
Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?
.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?
His recent run in MLG was pretty impressive, 6th foreigner(counting Select as foreigner), 14th overall, from the open bracket, but hey, everybody can do that, thats nothing.
Sorry, didn't know 14th place at an MLG and being high ranked on ladder counted as "results" these days.
I'm not saying Demuslim is "bad", but you really cannot say he is good. By Korean standards he is completely off the map and by Foreigner standards he's a little above average.
Personally, i do not consider that good.
Its irrelevant whether or not you think hes good or bad. The discussion at hand is whether or not hes shown good results lately. If you don't think placing 14th at MLG and qualifying for IEM China are "good results" then that's that.
And by Korean standards do you mean code S level? Not many foreigners are code S level to begin with (its pretty much just Huk right now). Hes arguably Code A right now, beating Trickster and losing a close series against Nada.
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote: EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)
Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?
lol troll post?
Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?
.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?
His recent run in MLG was pretty impressive, 6th foreigner(counting Select as foreigner), 14th overall, from the open bracket, but hey, everybody can do that, thats nothing.
Sorry, didn't know 14th place at an MLG and being high ranked on ladder counted as "results" these days.
I'm not saying Demuslim is "bad", but you really cannot say he is good. By Korean standards he is completely off the map and by Foreigner standards he's a little above average.
Personally, i do not consider that good.
Man, usually I would not say anything here, but I thin DeMuslim is one of the nicest people there are and awesome to boot and your defense of your ignorant attack on his playing quality merits at least a little response.
Let us just check his history a bit. Oh, he broke his wrist. So he basically, for 3 months or the like, did not play any competitive Starcraft. That should put a dent in anyone' skill. Before his injury, he was one of the baddest ass Terrans in Europe taking third at IEM. Now he ran through the Open bracket and winning against big names like Tester, Ret, and TLO. He is tearing it up for EG in all the team matches and beat Rain to qualify for IEM. Not bad for someone who had his wrist broken and missed a large quantity of LAN's he otherwise would have played in.
I don't know who you think is good, maybe all you like to do is fairweather the top Koreans of a time, but as far as awesome foreigners go DeMuslim is one of them. He has so much skill and is just now catching up. You snort at 14th at MLG but that comes in ahead of people like Sheth and IdrA, and the Korean seeded Trickster. Maybe he is not S class, but he is better than most people, and I would definitely think he is good.
"I'd rather quit starcraft than join EG -_-" ~Jinro on his stream chat.
Sounds interesting. I'm guessing some dignitas/mouz players might be moving around?
Seems a silly stance to take. Competition between the teams is a good thing. Players get more money, get to go to more events. It isn't even all bad for the team losing the player (though maybe I am being too class 1/2 full here). I was hoping the Huk drama might finally get Tyler motivated to really work towards winning a big event.
"I'd rather quit starcraft than join EG -_-" ~Jinro on his stream chat.
Sounds interesting. I'm guessing some dignitas/mouz players might be moving around?
Seems a silly stance to take. Competition between the teams is a good thing. Players get more money, get to go to more events. It isn't even all bad for the team losing the player (though maybe I am being too class 1/2 full here). I was hoping the Huk drama might finally get Tyler motivated to really work towards winning a big event.
Then again it is his decision to make.
How is being loyal to a team being silly, or not making money the #1 priority silly?
"I'd rather quit starcraft than join EG -_-" ~Jinro on his stream chat.
Sounds interesting. I'm guessing some dignitas/mouz players might be moving around?
Seems a silly stance to take. Competition between the teams is a good thing. Players get more money, get to go to more events. It isn't even all bad for the team losing the player (though maybe I am being too class 1/2 full here). I was hoping the Huk drama might finally get Tyler motivated to really work towards winning a big event.
Then again it is his decision to make.
How is being loyal to a team being silly, or not making money the #1 priority silly?
I didn't mean to imply that team loyalty is a bad thing, sorry if I worded that poorly. I was talking more about the "I'd rather quit starcraft than" bit. It seems anti competitive and I would like to see esports grow. Like I said I kinda of hoped that would maybe be a spark for Tyler and maybe TL as a whole. Have them out chasing down sponsors. If we started to tilt to the other extreme of like just 2 rich teams with all the top players I would start learning more towards being loyal to teams - particularly the smaller / growing ones.
Isn't it obvious? iNcontroL arranged it all: the european terran player Nerchio is joining team EG because he won dreamhack summer. He also doesn't like the hellion change.
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote: EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)
Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?
lol troll post?
Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?
.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?
His recent run in MLG was pretty impressive, 6th foreigner(counting Select as foreigner), 14th overall, from the open bracket, but hey, everybody can do that, thats nothing.
Sorry, didn't know 14th place at an MLG and being high ranked on ladder counted as "results" these days.
I'm not saying Demuslim is "bad", but you really cannot say he is good. By Korean standards he is completely off the map and by Foreigner standards he's a little above average.
Personally, i do not consider that good.
Man, usually I would not say anything here, but I thin DeMuslim is one of the nicest people there are and awesome to boot and your defense of your ignorant attack on his playing quality merits at least a little response.
Let us just check his history a bit. Oh, he broke his wrist. So he basically, for 3 months or the like, did not play any competitive Starcraft. That should put a dent in anyone' skill. Before his injury, he was one of the baddest ass Terrans in Europe taking third at IEM. Now he ran through the Open bracket and winning against big names like Tester, Ret, and TLO. He is tearing it up for EG in all the team matches and beat Rain to qualify for IEM. Not bad for someone who had his wrist broken and missed a large quantity of LAN's he otherwise would have played in.
I don't know who you think is good, maybe all you like to do is fairweather the top Koreans of a time, but as far as awesome foreigners go DeMuslim is one of them. He has so much skill and is just now catching up. You snort at 14th at MLG but that comes in ahead of people like Sheth and IdrA, and the Korean seeded Trickster. Maybe he is not S class, but he is better than most people, and I would definitely think he is good.
I'm not attacking the guy at all, i think he is a great person and i love watching his stream.
That being said, i stand by my point that i am not impressed with him skill-wise. Beating Tester is pretty impressive, yes....
But really, a Terran beating a Protoss these days, i'm not putting too much merit on that. It is my opinion, after all.
EGiNcontroL Geoff Robinson Today is a good day. EGMCS vs ItsGosu, ESEA vs iS (home of @zemotion ) , training, streaming.. and good team news MadMen is good btw
As an EG fan i dont ever want to see Jinro on EG. Two reasons, one good and one bad depending on whether or not youre a Jinro fan.
1. Jinro has declined too heavily. If EG is going to spend the money, they need strong players that are putting up results worthy of the contracts theyre getting. Jinro has also admitted to being burned out and not practicing as much (You can find this information in his fanclub from Jinro himself.)
2. Jinro is definitely the epitome of "Good." It would be weird if he were on EG. I believe that despite his lack of recent success and practice, he will inevitably bounce back, perhaps stronger then ever. When he does he should represent Liquid - because its just so damn fitting.
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote: EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)
Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?
lol troll post?
Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?
.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?
Hmm, what has Tom Brady done lately since he hurt his knee in 2008? Yet people still consider him the best QB in the NFL.
Well...all he did last season was to put up better numbers than Manning has for 12 of his 13 years in the NFL. Peyton Manning is no scrub so...yeah, I think you need a different example.
looking at carmac's pitchfork tweet. We need to think of people with names that have anything to do with pichforks, what does a pitchfork look like? an M, W maybe millenium's sign. also maybe they have a chinstrap with a line up the middle to look like a pitchfork, this is where we will find our answers
On September 09 2011 06:30 Toxi78 wrote: i know that EG approached ret after he won the european blizzard tournament.
I'm assuming Ret turned EG down?
Why would he? He has said he is willing to switch teams for the right offer.
Ret makes a ton of sense for EG actually. He gets along well with the team, has good results lately and his contract is probably coming close to ending for TL (been just about a year IIRC).
On September 09 2011 06:30 Toxi78 wrote: i know that EG approached ret after he won the european blizzard tournament.
I'm assuming Ret turned EG down?
Why would he? He has said he is willing to switch teams for the right offer.
Ret makes a ton of sense for EG actually. He gets along well with the team, has good results lately and his contract is probably coming close to ending for TL (been just about a year IIRC).
Yeah, but he was making fun of EG's deal with Huk. Remember when he put up the poster of him and Sheth imitating the handhold between Idra and Huk? I think Ret is staying with Liquid.
Carmac's recent tweet (possibly referring to the same case):
@mbCARMAC Michal Blicharz A "pro" gaming team offered a top player a good salary, but wouldn't show him the contract until he committed to join. #thisisesports too...
Then again, such stuff is hardly shocking given the direction SC2 scene has taken.
On September 09 2011 06:30 Toxi78 wrote: i know that EG approached ret after he won the european blizzard tournament.
I'm assuming Ret turned EG down?
Why would he? He has said he is willing to switch teams for the right offer.
Ret makes a ton of sense for EG actually. He gets along well with the team, has good results lately and his contract is probably coming close to ending for TL (been just about a year IIRC).
Pretty sure ret joined Liquid way back in bw when he went to Korea so it's been longer than a year o_o
On September 09 2011 06:30 Toxi78 wrote: i know that EG approached ret after he won the european blizzard tournament.
I'm assuming Ret turned EG down?
Why would he? He has said he is willing to switch teams for the right offer.
Ret makes a ton of sense for EG actually. He gets along well with the team, has good results lately and his contract is probably coming close to ending for TL (been just about a year IIRC).
Pretty sure ret joined Liquid way back in bw when he went to Korea so it's been longer than a year o_o
On September 09 2011 06:30 Toxi78 wrote: i know that EG approached ret after he won the european blizzard tournament.
I'm assuming Ret turned EG down?
Why would he? He has said he is willing to switch teams for the right offer.
Ret makes a ton of sense for EG actually. He gets along well with the team, has good results lately and his contract is probably coming close to ending for TL (been just about a year IIRC).
Pretty sure ret joined Liquid way back in bw when he went to Korea so it's been longer than a year o_o
On September 09 2011 06:30 Toxi78 wrote: i know that EG approached ret after he won the european blizzard tournament.
I'm assuming Ret turned EG down?
Why would he? He has said he is willing to switch teams for the right offer.
Ret makes a ton of sense for EG actually. He gets along well with the team, has good results lately and his contract is probably coming close to ending for TL (been just about a year IIRC).
Pretty sure ret joined Liquid way back in bw when he went to Korea so it's been longer than a year o_o
On September 09 2011 06:30 Toxi78 wrote: i know that EG approached ret after he won the european blizzard tournament.
I'm assuming Ret turned EG down?
Why would he? He has said he is willing to switch teams for the right offer.
Ret makes a ton of sense for EG actually. He gets along well with the team, has good results lately and his contract is probably coming close to ending for TL (been just about a year IIRC).
Pretty sure ret joined Liquid way back in bw when he went to Korea so it's been longer than a year o_o
nah he signed with them when he became active in sc2.
If EG snipes another liquid player I'll go batshit. Hopefully this Tod stuff is the end of it.
On September 09 2011 05:45 Toxi78 wrote: tod just said SaSe might join TSL.
wait...when what? he said that on stream?
He was asked about that on "Rakt på med Rakaka" (a show) and he said that he was in talks with many teams but that he was far from having decided on any one team. This was Wednesday.
On September 11 2011 03:11 amazingoopah wrote: no offense to elfi or ToD but they can't be considered among the top europeans just yet IMHO.... guess it's gotta be someone else.
ToD has been one of the top Ps for awhile now. Elfi is up and down, used to be a bit of a cheeser but seems to be a lot more stable these days.
On September 11 2011 03:31 myzael wrote: Do elfi to Acer and ToD to fnatic solve this mystery. Or is there something more to come?
Yeah, who knows. Putting this once more here, if someone didn't see it:
On September 11 2011 03:22 Grettin wrote: Btw, another "big" announcement coming. No idea if it is SC2 related, but i'd think so since Lastshadow is tweeting about it.
On September 11 2011 03:22 Grettin wrote: Btw, another "big" announcement coming. No idea if it is SC2 related, but i'd think so since Lastshadow is tweeting about it.
Lastshadow9 Nick De Cesare Big announcement in 2days! on gosugamers.net
Lastshadow is a guy with no accomplishments besides some emotional blogs filled with rage and crying.. not a big fan.. not a big incident..
In today's "The Grass is Always Greener" by ESL's Mr.Bitter and Rotterdam, we've seen two special guests. Those guests were Korean players, that actually moved to Germany: Rain and Phoenix. In that show, they've announced the announcement of an announcement... Ok straight to the point: those Koreans plus some other players are the members of a
NEW TEAM IN EUROPE CALLED TEAM TWO (SECOND?) !!!!!
Rotti and Bitter said that more details should be released in about week or two.
On September 17 2011 06:16 5ukkub wrote: In today's "The Grass is Always Greener" by ESL's Mr.Bitter and Rotterdam, we've seen two special guests. Those guests were Korean players, that actually moved to Germany: Rain and Phoenix. In that show, they've announced the announcement of an announcement... Ok straight to the point: those Koreans plus some other players are the members of a
NEW TEAM IN EUROPE CALLED TEAM TWO (SECOND?) !!!!!
Rotti and Bitter said that more details should be released in about week or two.
OK so they said it will be 1 American player and at least 1 German player. Since sixjax are disbanded... DDE or Vibe maybe? And the German player? I'm not sure who would that be
On September 17 2011 06:40 5ukkub wrote: OK so they said it will be 1 American player and at least 1 German player. Since sixjax are disbanded... DDE or Vibe maybe? And the German player? I'm not sure who would that be
EPT
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