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WhiteraCares
Sweden339 Posts
 YellOw has hit masters, but more importantly he seems to be sporting the SlayerS tag! :oThe internet detectives over at PlayXP found this out by looking up the match history of current sc2 progamers whos been training with someone called SlayerSYellow. "Proof" can bee seen here and here. So are the two rivals joining forces just like  HuK andIdrA did? Discuss!For more information visit the first link to the reddit post. Battle.net profile sc2ranks.com profile ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FYx9w.jpg) | ||
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Ge0Rob
England61 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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nougdp
Germany144 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
I don't mind him going to Slayers, as long as he can play well enough to deliver. Thanks for the info, waiting for confirmation by Milkis or whoever.  e. i just wonder since when Slayers members has been using tag in Korean.. | ||
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kYem
United Kingdom412 Posts
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Chicken Chaser
United States533 Posts
How come sc2ranks.com doesn't show YellOw ever being in Gold league?... | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
And yes, it is essentially the thing. | ||
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BamBam
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namedplayer
844 Posts
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
But I would rather have Yellow on another team, it would be better if BoxeR & Yellow were on different teams and fought each other not on the same team. For instance, I would love the amount of hype and tension between IMYellow vs SlayerSBoxeR in the GSTL. I would love it more than having Yellow and BoxeR on the same bench. Edit: Nothing is confirmed though, so we have to wait and see what happens. Is the account even confirmed to be Yellows? | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:25 namedplayer wrote: he is not real Yellow. confirmed by Jessica. source? | ||
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
Edit; it seems yellow was masters all along (since end of june)... so its either he was just trolling about his rank during the showmatch or this is a fake... | ||
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ThaSlayer
707 Posts
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cablesc
United States1540 Posts
But this doesn't mean the Yellow is sticking with slayers forever. He might just be training up with them until he's good enough to form his own team. | ||
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Latham
9560 Posts
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
It was confimred ages ago since there was a fake Slayers_Yellow in master. But this is a different and legit one. | ||
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ThaSlayer
707 Posts
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:30 ThaSlayer wrote: I think the thread title needs to be changed though. Kinda misleading Well, he did have the question mark at the end so it does work for me | ||
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skrotcyk
Sweden432 Posts
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jqiah/yellow_made_masters_today_also_name_changed_to/ ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zq8Uih.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PyZKj.jpg) | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
And the thing about BoxeR and YellOw being on different teams, that's important too.... | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
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CDR
Poland84 Posts
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Chicken Chaser
United States533 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:37 synapse wrote: I think YellOw needs to be on IM just cuz.. "I am YellOw" ... LOL And the thing about BoxeR and YellOw being on different teams, that's important too.... LosirA + NesTea + YellOw on the same team? Oh, man... One could only dream. | ||
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StimMarine
723 Posts
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cablesc
United States1540 Posts
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HydraLF
Hong Kong626 Posts
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:46 HydraLF wrote: So was he already master back in June as somebody pointed put? He was no where near kr master level Zerg in the show match not long ago. That was an obvious joke. | ||
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Teim
Australia373 Posts
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worosei
Australia198 Posts
And here's hoping that YellOw doesnt end up being lacklustre! | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:52 Teim wrote: Not sure why you guys would be suprised he could jump to Masters to quickly. His still has his strong BW mechanics. He just had no understanding of the game during the showmatch. If you watch Project A - Episode 2 you can see how clueless he is just a few days before the showmatch. Does he make creep? I remember Nestea was super nooby and didn't know about creep tumors in his first GSL haha | ||
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SiDX
New Zealand1975 Posts
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:24 Chicken Chaser wrote: http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3249175/슬레이어스옐로우#alltime How come sc2ranks.com doesn't show YellOw ever being in Gold league?... because he wasn't using that account when he was in gold league | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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inn5013orecl
United States227 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:41 StimMarine wrote: Did Yellow really improve that much since the showmatch with Boxer? The showmatch wasn't THAT long ago. It's not unbelievable. Not only is he on a pro-training schedule, he was also one of the greatest BW players of all time. His mechanics and learning curve is greatly superior than the average (pro)player imo. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:54 FallDownMarigold wrote: Does he make creep? I remember Nestea was super nooby and didn't know about creep tumors in his first GSL haha His creep spread and injects are good. His knowledge of the game at the time before the show match was not. He didn't know the necessity of early zergling speed, didn't drone as hard as zergs should, pulled workers vs hellions, didn't know about baneling speed... All that fun stuff. Obviously now, he is probably better than all non pro players and could probably beat some lower tier foreigners. Not bad for a months work. | ||
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:03 Micket wrote: Obviously now, he is probably better than all non pro players and could probably beat some lower tier foreigners. Not bad for a months work. This account better stats than kawaiirice, dkiller and others that have tried their hand at korean masters. But then again if it's a new account then he got like 30 free wins coming up from placement. But THEN AGAIN someone said this account was in masters @! the start of the season, meaning this theory is FalSe. | ||
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Bellygareth
France512 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:39 CDR wrote: In the second episode he claimed that he has two accounts and one of them is masters. So I don't think that he got promoted today as reddit claims. What's more details of that SlayerSYellow account on sc2rank.com say that last game was played 20 days ago. I guess he's in SlayerS but he might not be in masters on his main pracitce account. What would be the point of making a private secret account and name it SlayersYellow? If it's really him, he must have another secret account. | ||
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CDR
Poland84 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:41 StimMarine wrote: Did Yellow really improve that much since the showmatch with Boxer? The showmatch wasn't THAT long ago. Guys, that account is idle for 20 days... Why don't you read what other write and check anything? | ||
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StimMarine
723 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:05 Bellygareth wrote: What would be the point of making a private secret account and name it SlayersYellow? My thought was that he couldnt use the Slayers tag unless he was in Masters, sort of like a pre-req to join slayers. So he laddered on an account with just a random name (or just Yellow), and upon entering Masters, he changed it to SlayersYellow. | ||
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StimMarine
723 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:08 CDR wrote: Guys, that account is idle for 20 days... Why don't you read what other write and check anything? Cause I don't really have the time to cross-reference everything I read lol. So you're saying that SlayersYellow account isn't really him? | ||
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acidbean
Germany287 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:24 Chicken Chaser wrote: http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3249175/슬레이어스옐로우#alltime How come sc2ranks.com doesn't show YellOw ever being in Gold league?... My thoughts exactly. We've seen two episodes of Project A and the showmatch between YellOw and he was nowhere near master league play. I guess he plays today a lot better than at the end of july, maybe he is already in the master league. But the linked account showed him never in a lower league than masters. About the second account in master YellOw mentioned in the second episode, I wouldn't take that for real. Overall, I dont think GomTV would do such a project, if it turns out that it was all fake from the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised, if thats just a troll attempt from the slayers clan or Mr. Chae :D | ||
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CDR
Poland84 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:10 StimMarine wrote: Cause I don't really have the time to cross-reference everything I read lol. So you're saying that SlayersYellow account isn't really him? I'm saying that it's probably his account but he ain't using it now. So I don't think that finding acc that is idle for almost one month is such a big deal... Would actually anyone be surprised with Yellow joining SlayerS? No big news imo. | ||
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
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StimMarine
723 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:12 CDR wrote: I'm saying that it's probably his account but he ain't using it now. So I don't think that finding acc that is idle for almost one month is such a big deal... Would actually anyone be surprised with Yellow joining SlayerS? No big news imo. Oh OK, but still, during the showmatch Yellow's skills weren't very good. How can he be masters now, or as you said, 1 month ago? On August 22 2011 22:13 Maghetti wrote: Not sure if this has been said but YellOw said on the show that he had a masters account, his personal account, and this was even before the boxer match. This is what I'm confused about. If he really was in masters, why did he play so poorly during the showmatch? | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:36 zaii wrote: theres a reddit thread on this and it seems it is the real Yellow. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jqiah/yellow_made_masters_today_also_name_changed_to/ Sorry, but this does not prove anything | ||
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Assaulter
Lithuania324 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:11 acidbean wrote: About the second account in master YellOw mentioned in the second episode, I wouldn't take that for real. well this looks like the second account he was talking about to me, he said that one was masters..so i guess it could be for real that he said that | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
Back in June he certainly wasn't at that level. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:15 Assaulter wrote: well this looks like the second account he was talking about to me, he said that one was masters..so i guess it could be for real that he said that he was obviously joking, at the time that episode 2 was recordered before the showmatch, you could see he had ALOT to learn about sc2 it would not of taken him 2 weeks to get to masters from the level he was at imo | ||
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ThaSlayer
707 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:20 MisterTea wrote: he was obviously joking, at the time that episode 2 was recordered before the showmatch, you could see he had ALOT to learn about sc2 it would not of taken him 2 weeks to get to masters from the level he was at imo Dont forget he has strong mechanics carrying over from BW. | ||
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g0G0RandOm
Switzerland80 Posts
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dbddbddb
Singapore969 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:22 g0G0RandOm wrote: ..... on the first pics it say 120game played yet on his 1v1 match he has 218 game played... is it fake or im seeing something wrong here? ....218 games played 120 won | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
That does not prove anything. It could very well be someone else who just made accound named SlayersYellow and is good enough to play in korean master league and just encounters famous players in ladder. So please, dont claim that it is real deal like if it was a fact. | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:21 ThaSlayer wrote: Dont forget he has strong mechanics carrying over from BW. But you do realise it has been along time since he has played, someone told me it was around 8 years? without playing bw I do not know myself so may not be 100% true | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:22 g0G0RandOm wrote: ..... on the first pics it say 120game played yet on his 1v1 match he has 218 game played... is it fake or im seeing something wrong here? I don't know if you're serious or not.... Both 120 numbers indicate his wins. Thus he has 120 solo wins. The 218 games is total played in that league. So his 1v1 stats on ladder is 120-98=218 | ||
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:14 StimMarine wrote: Oh OK, but still, during the showmatch Yellow's skills weren't very good. How can he be masters now, or as you said, 1 month ago? This is what I'm confused about. If he really was in masters, why did he play so poorly during the showmatch? Boxer is way better than him and YellOw is running almost entirely on his bw knowledge? Maybe. | ||
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StimMarine
723 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:27 Maghetti wrote: Boxer is way better than him and YellOw is running almost entirely on his bw knowledge? Maybe. Then there is NO way he could be in Masters at that time, especially the Korean server. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:27 Maghetti wrote: Boxer is way better than him and YellOw is running almost entirely on his bw knowledge? Maybe. It's kind of like ice skating when all you know is rollerblading. | ||
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NoobStyles
Australia257 Posts
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3249175/슬레이어스옐로우/season/2 So ether the Boxer/Yellow show match/ project A and Yellow playing BW for KT were all faked Or some random just made an account called SlayerSYellow. No rational person could come to the conclusion that the account is just a fake form some kid, the evidence is irrefutably! | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:25 MisterTea wrote: But you do realise it has been along time since he has played, someone told me it was around 8 years? without playing bw I do not know myself so may not be 100% true You must have misunderstood something. This eight-year-ago business must have been talk about that infamous semifinal (?) against Boxer with the three bunker rushes. Yellow actually played BW non-stop until just a few months ago. He even played BW professionally through his military service in the ACE proleague team of the South Korean Air Force. | ||
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CDR
Poland84 Posts
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:30 NoobStyles wrote: the sc2 rank linked earlier had over 500 games played in season 2..... http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3249175/슬레이어스옐로우/season/2 So ether the Boxer/Yellow show match/ project A and Yellow playing BW for KT were all faked Or some random just made an account called SlayerSYellow. No rational person could come to the conclusion that the account is just a fake form some kid, the evidence is irrefutably! Evidence is not undeniable. You are trying to say that we should just assume and accept theory that whole showmatch thing was faked. No. It is possible that someone else made account slayersyellow and is good enough to play in masters and matchhistory proves nothing else that its possible that this person has encountered famous players in ladder. Also it is very predictable that someone would fake to be some famous player, it has happened many times before. | ||
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casperghost
Canada28 Posts
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SolidGasPro
93 Posts
2.) Boxer said when Yellow was retiring that he has made the SlayersYellow account and that if Yellow wants to turn to Sc2, he can join SLayers anytime. If Slayers own the account nothing prevents them from using it as a smurf account for their zergs. 3.) Yellow played simply bad at the showmatch. 4.) That account was masters before Yellow retired. CONCLUSION: That's not Yellow, unfortunately. | ||
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
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Stijx
United States804 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:46 HydraLF wrote: So was he already master back in June as somebody pointed put? He was no where near kr master level Zerg in the show match not long ago. Ehm... I think he was probably a little better than Masters Zerg in his showmatch | ||
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
Also, since Project A is recorded a few weeks in advance, it would be very unlikely that Yellow plays on an account with a name that could be identified, in order to avoid spoilers like "omg Yellow just made it to masters" when everybody can see that his account is in Masters since two weeks :> | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
Dunno, basing this on just IDs is a bit silly, IMO. | ||
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nidhogur
United Kingdom41 Posts
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
HuK and IdrA is say.. Newcastle Utd v Sunderland, compared to BoxeR v YellOw or FlaSh v Jaedong, which is closer to Manchester Utd v Liverpool FC and FC Barcelona v Real Madrid. Edit: About YellOw to SlayerS, I'd prefer him to make his own team and have his own identity like BoxeR suggested. There should be a new team with Nal_rA (when he comes back from the military) and Reach (it's inevitable since he already won the SPL and has no realistic chance of anything else now). | ||
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pencil_ethics
Australia174 Posts
b) Many many weeks ago, there was a news article saying SlayerSYellow was not Yellow's ID (but it was before his proper transition to SC2) c) This first SlayerSYellow account was Masters in June, which runs contrary to a point made below. d) He has been playing SC2 at least since end of July (he mentions he was in Bronze when he was attending some S2Con player seminar), but he will have multiple accounts anyway -_- | ||
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KaidaN
Australia54 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:55 Stijx wrote: Ehm... I think he was probably a little better than Masters Zerg in his showmatch I can guarantee you 100% he was no where near a master level zerg in the showmatch. he actually reminded me on my silver/gold zerg friends when i off race with terran against them. Sources: High master zerg before s3 | ||
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Anorae
United States36 Posts
Edit: I kind of hope he doesn't join SlayerS though. It would be more epic for he and Boxer to not be on the same team in my opinion | ||
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leakingpear
United Kingdom302 Posts
You're out of order! This whole damn court is out of order! | ||
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SLTR.Maverick
Canada142 Posts
In the end though, I'm just happy that he's staying in the SC2 scene, YELLOW FIGHTING! | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
MAKE IT HAPPEN PEOPLE o: | ||
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Sooooil
Germany497 Posts
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
On August 22 2011 23:29 ronpaul012 wrote: That picture makes this thread lol. THIS IS NOT A BUNKER RUSH! J/k now its 5x bunker rush | ||
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
ps: dont think he joins slayers | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On August 22 2011 23:35 CoR wrote: all who say it was yellows acc who was only master, yellow was definatly gold as you can also see in video ^^ no idea why anyone can say anything else who have eyes (there is a gold symbol guys ...) ps: dont think he joins slayers If you're referring to the Project A show, the last episode we saw was filmed 3 weeks ago. | ||
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:52 Teim wrote: Not sure why you guys would be suprised he could jump to Masters to quickly. His still has his strong BW mechanics. He just had no understanding of the game during the showmatch. If you watch Project A - Episode 2 you can see how clueless he is just a few days before the showmatch. "Whaaat?! Reapers can't shoot air?!" | ||
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Datum
United States371 Posts
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
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Tennet
United States1458 Posts
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Triscuit
United States722 Posts
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Achaia
United States643 Posts
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
On August 23 2011 00:40 Triscuit wrote: Do any other SlayerS player write their name in Korean? That's making me skeptical. Yes, almost all of them do, with few exceptions. It's legit. Yellow has been practicing with SlayerS players and now has the tags. probably won't be confirmed by them for a while though. | ||
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ReturnStroke
United States801 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:20 Ge0Rob wrote: As far as I'm aware when Project A was announced he was in slayers at the time. I think he joined after the showmatch with boxer. He was just an honorary member. This is pretty interesting though. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 01:07 DeepBlu2 wrote: Yes, almost all of them do, with few exceptions. It's legit. Yellow has been practicing with SlayerS players and now has the tags. probably won't be confirmed by them for a while though. STOP IT NOW IDIOT We dont know for sure if its legit or not, probably not though. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10343 Posts
I'm glad to see that this evidences that gamers who've had more experience have that as an advantage | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 01:20 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: holy shit he is that high masters already? This is great, he will make it to code a in no time ^_^ I'm glad to see that this evidences that gamers who've had more experience have that as an advantage he is not master, his chat with violet implies hes not master | ||
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Lutto
Sweden198 Posts
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
On August 22 2011 23:02 nidhogur wrote: hahaha funny thing is, yellow actually said in the latest project A video that he "has a masters account" i think we all thought he was joking but it actually might be true :D NO. This was before his showmatch. In his showmatch he looked gold/low-plat. His mutas were of course better than gold, but his macro, droning, decision making, scouting, everything else was really shocking. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 01:27 arbitrageur wrote: NO. This was before his showmatch. In his showmatch he looked gold/low-plat. His mutas were of course better than gold, but his macro, droning, decision making, scouting, everything else was really shocking. he was worse than average gold, believe me. He was truly a bronze | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On August 23 2011 01:30 Lordwar wrote: Not really, people overexaggerate the stomping too much.he was worse than average gold, believe me. He was truly a bronze | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 01:44 Elem wrote: Not really, people overexaggerate the stomping too much. he did not know that banelings can be speed upgraded, and i fucking promise you that average gold level zerg knows that kind of stuff | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
I really think it's just YellOw being an "honorary member." Perhaps he doesn't want to waste time improving his MMR and crushing scrubs on his other account. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On August 23 2011 01:57 Lordwar wrote: he did not know that banelings can be speed upgraded, and i fucking promise you that average gold level zerg knows that kind of stuff Doesn't matter when 300 APM rolls over 50 APM Bronze league players anyway. Knowledge =/= Skill | ||
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akaname
United Kingdom599 Posts
http://sc2ranks.com/div/150071 is apparently named 'neck equipment' ( 넥스장비 ) | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 02:11 Zeke50100 wrote: Doesn't matter when 300 APM rolls over 50 APM Bronze league players anyway. Knowledge =/= Skill Wow, that was really stupid post from you. User was warned for this post | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On August 23 2011 02:20 akaname wrote: far more importantly, number 7 in his division: http://sc2ranks.com/div/150071 is apparently named 'neck equipment' ( 넥스장비 ) Neck equipment... The neck is a part of the body... The chin is also a part of the body... There is a player known as the Chintoss... HOLY CRAP, Stats IS PLAYING SC2 ACCORDING TO FLAWLESS LOGIC! | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
Says the guy who thinks you can't be a gold level player without knowing about baneling speed. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 02:28 Zeke50100 wrote: Says the guy who thinks you can't be a gold level player without knowing about baneling speed. If you read my posts carefully, you may find out that i actually never said anything like that. | ||
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AzurewinD
United States569 Posts
Top-notch argumentative skill right there. <Point> <Retort> <Rebuttal> <Your Post Is Stupid> Anyways I'm not sure it's smart to jump the gun. Until it's official we can't really know anything for sure. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10343 Posts
On August 23 2011 01:44 Elem wrote: Not really, people overexaggerate the stomping too much. He was definitely Diamond level already, probably Masters. May be not in Korea, but NA level at least. Remember, when you watch a replay the player always looks much worse than he actually is. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On August 23 2011 02:30 Lordwar wrote: If you read my posts carefully, you may find out that i actually never said anything like that. I'm sorry? You say he is truly a Bronze player, then counter someone saying the stomping wasn't at the level of Grandmaster vs Bronze by saying he didn't know about Baneling speed, which the average Gold level player knows about? Right. Go learn how to argue. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 02:34 Zeke50100 wrote: I'm sorry? You say he is truly a Bronze player, then counter someone saying the stomping wasn't at the level of Grandmaster vs Bronze by saying he didn't know about Baneling speed, which the average Gold level player knows about? Right. Go learn how to argue. Average gold player plays simply better, yellow is more like average bronze. I know he was gold at the time of showmatch so did not say he was actually in bronze. | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
On August 22 2011 22:29 StimMarine wrote: Then there is NO way he could be in Masters at that time, especially the Korean server. You gotta be kidding me. One of the greatest SC1 progamers of all time with his mechanics and game sense, can't make Masters? Even if it's the Korean server, SC1 progamers are a level or two above everyone else. It is inevitable that they'll catch up. I'm pretty sure if the showmatch was between Yellow and some random Korean Master instead of Boxer, the games would be a lot closer. Boxer dominated MLG and the earlier seasons of GSL, you can't expect someone who just transferred over to look even close to that skill level. | ||
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Gijian
United States273 Posts
Or This whole thing is a stunt, he's already in master. Played like crap to entertain the audience and use that reasoning to create the Project A series for GOM. | ||
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Vul
United States685 Posts
On August 23 2011 02:45 Gijian wrote: Perhaps slayers created that ID in preparation for Yellow. The person who actually played that account might not even be him. I think once Yellow get out of his training, the account is already in master and ready to go. Or This whole thing is a stunt, he's already in master. Played like crap to entertain the audience and use that reasoning to create the Project A series for GOM. Yea, if this account is in masters AND has been idle for 20+ days, then it seems more reasonable to assume that it isn't him. I do hope he joins slayers though. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On August 23 2011 01:21 Lordwar wrote: he is not master, his chat with violet implies hes not master Worth taking note. | ||
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speedphlux
Bulgaria962 Posts
I'm very pleased with this :D Looks like Project A is going to have a happy end | ||
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JBanKs
United Kingdom617 Posts
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VeNoM HaZ Skill
United States1528 Posts
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 02:43 K3Nyy wrote: You gotta be kidding me. One of the greatest SC1 progamers of all time with his mechanics and game sense, can't make Masters? Even if it's the Korean server, SC1 progamers are a level or two above everyone else. It is inevitable that they'll catch up. I'm pretty sure if the showmatch was between Yellow and some random Korean Master instead of Boxer, the games would be a lot closer. Boxer dominated MLG and the earlier seasons of GSL, you can't expect someone who just transferred over to look even close to that skill level. No matter how good you were in brood war, does not help if you dont know that banelings can be upgraded or you though that reapers shoot air. | ||
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Carkis
Canada302 Posts
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On August 23 2011 03:26 Lordwar wrote: No matter how good you were in brood war, does not help if you dont know that banelings can be upgraded or you though that reapers shoot air. At the same time, knowing everything about the game doesn't mean you have anything to show for it. You're acting like having insane APM can't help you just because it's a different game. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 03:50 Zeke50100 wrote: At the same time, knowing everything about the game doesn't mean you have anything to show for it. You're acting like having insane APM can't help you just because it's a different game. brood war mechanics dont straightly translate into sc2 because everything works differently, you need to give yourself time to LEARN the game before you can make use of your general rts mechanics. Meanwhile your bw background helps only a little. Actually i think its more about knowing how to approach the game, more than mechanics. | ||
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monitor
United States2404 Posts
On August 23 2011 03:52 Lordwar wrote: brood war mechanics dont straightly translate into sc2 because everything works differently, you need to give yourself time to LEARN the game before you can make use of your general rts mechanics. Meanwhile your bw background helps only a little. Actually i think its more about knowing how to approach the game, more than mechanics. You're saying it takes Yellow over a month playing 8+ hours a day to figure out that banelings can be upgraded? Playing Brood War will make starcraft 2 seem very easy to Yellow, all he has to do is learn some builds/strategies imo. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:01 monitor wrote: You're saying it takes Yellow over a month playing 8+ hours a day to figure out that banelings can be upgraded? Playing Brood War will make starcraft 2 seem very easy to Yellow, all he has to do is learn some builds/strategies imo. Just saying, that if you dont acknowledge the baneling speed upgrade or you dont know that reapers cannot shoot air, then obviously you are at stage of learning process where your superior BW career is virtually no help for you. | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:03 Lordwar wrote: Just saying, that if you dont acknowledge the baneling speed upgrade or you dont know that reapers cannot shoot air, then obviously you are at stage of learning process where your superior BW career is virtually no help for you. Sorry but I've read everything you've written in this thread and your argument makes no sense. You act like he needs to have a massive education about SC2 but you cite 2 things that he will now know after being told once? I don't get it | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:03 Lordwar wrote: Just saying, that if you dont acknowledge the baneling speed upgrade or you dont know that reapers cannot shoot air, then obviously you are at stage of learning process where your superior BW career is virtually no help for you. *facepalm* Are you trying to say the ability to micro a unit REGARDLESS of the unit is a worthless skill? Or the ability to macro REGARDLESS of what you're making is a worthless skill? | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
Im sorry if you dont get this, I can see that if after this post you still are arguing you will not get it. It is not worth it to try to explain in words of one syllable. Oh, and btw knowing how to perfectly micro brood war units does not automatically transfer to knowing how to micro different units in different game. Give me a break guys, really. | ||
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
Honestly they need to put Yellow with NesTea and Losira for a month after this project deal is over and he'll be insane. So far all the footage we've seen was pre showmatch. So its very possible he just isn't getting it, isn't doing the work and isn't learning fast enough. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On August 23 2011 03:11 JBanKs wrote: I just asked StarTale_Bomber as I am staying in the house for my little blog site, he said it is a fake yellow nooooo | ||
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LuciferSC
Canada535 Posts
On August 23 2011 02:39 Lordwar wrote: Average gold player plays simply better, yellow is more like average bronze. I know he was gold at the time of showmatch so did not say he was actually in bronze. Excuse me? Average gold player would play better than Yellow? Even if we take Yellow @ the time when he played boxer in the show match, his decision making skill & overall understanding of the game was much better than most NA Master players. Most gold players (at least in NA) only know how to execute the builds they are familiar with, and once the other player does anything to disrupt their build (early harassment) they get lost and don't know what to do for the rest of the game. Yes he may not have known about Baneling speed. But his game sense & understanding of starcraft game mechanics would have him beat any gold player, any time. (I'll bet you Yellow can beat most golds w/o having use of queen's larva ability) | ||
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TUski
United States1258 Posts
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
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LuciferSC
Canada535 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:52 purecarnagge wrote: honestly everyone has a different opinion. How come failed BW pro's dominate SC2? Boxer was essentially a failing legend, when he switched. I personally know nothing of yellow. Honestly they need to put Yellow with NesTea and Losira for a month after this project deal is over and he'll be insane. So far all the footage we've seen was pre showmatch. So its very possible he just isn't getting it, isn't doing the work and isn't learning fast enough. Boxer was a 'failing legend' in sense that the new players such as Flash and Bisu were just that talented and were putting in efforts that he couldn't follow. He was still a talented and competent player. He would've beat any and all foreign players at that time. (sorry for this cheap shot, but I am quite offended by that statement and this is an easy analogy for the westerns to understand) That shows the level of talent & the level of dedication Boxer and other BW pros can put into SC2. | ||
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Disposition1989
Canada270 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:12 Lordwar wrote: Hes knowledge about this game is so little presumably, that his BW background helps only a little. His general rts skill sets are "defeated" by all the shit he does not know about sc2. Sure yellow probably will advance in more faster pace than average sc2 newb, but we are talking his current state gameplay skill wise. Im sorry if you dont get this, I can see that if after this post you still are arguing you will not get it. It is not worth it to try to explain in words of one syllable. Oh, and btw knowing how to perfectly micro brood war units does not automatically transfer to knowing how to micro different units in different game. Give me a break guys, really. you dont deserve a break because of how stubborn and rude youre being, not to mention wrong. i played broodwar for about 8 years and i picked up sc2 so much quicker than my friends who did not play broodwar at all. you know why? no, you wouldnt understand. i hope for team liquids sake all your posts arent this bad. give US a break and stop posting | ||
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rickybobby
United States405 Posts
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 05:04 LuciferSC wrote: Excuse me? Average gold player would play better than Yellow? Even if we take Yellow @ the time when he played boxer in the show match, his decision making skill & overall understanding of the game was much better than most NA Master players. Most gold players (at least in NA) only know how to execute the builds they are familiar with, and once the other player does anything to disrupt their build (early harassment) they get lost and don't know what to do for the rest of the game. Yes he may not have known about Baneling speed. But his game sense & understanding of starcraft game mechanics would have him beat any gold player, any time. (I'll bet you Yellow can beat most golds w/o having use of queen's larva ability) I guess you have big yellow fanboy glasses which is reason you cannot think this thing objectively. Pro tip: yellow is below average gold level in skill wise. User was warned for this post | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
On August 23 2011 05:09 Disposition1989 wrote: you dont deserve a break because of how stubborn and rude youre being, not to mention wrong. i played broodwar for about 8 years and i picked up sc2 so much quicker than my friends who did not play broodwar at all. you know why? no, you wouldnt understand. i hope for team liquids sake all your posts arent this bad. give US a break and stop posting I have to agree with Disposition. Even if what your saying might make sense to you it's really just you talking out of your ass xd. Damn that shit about the bling speed and reaper was so stupid xD The fact that banelings have a speed upgrade and reapers can't shoot air is something he will have known since day 1 of playing lol. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 05:22 Zorgaz wrote: The fact that banelings have a speed upgrade and reapers can't shoot air is something he will have known since day 1 of playing lol. Oh, you have some source to provide? | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
1: He is a brilliant RTS player and one of the great SC players. That takes BRAINS and PREPARATION and COMMON SENSE. And a hell lot of other things. I'm quiet sure he updated himself on all the new units and their abilities etc. . Man i did that and i'm just a casual noob. 2: He is not a idiot Need i say more lol?! | ||
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Grampz
United States2147 Posts
On August 23 2011 05:18 Lordwar wrote: I guess you have big yellow fanboy glasses which is reason you cannot think this thing objectively. Pro tip: yellow is below average gold level in skill wise. you're just a dick... | ||
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Ruyguy
Canada988 Posts
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A-p-p-l-e-s
Canada314 Posts
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 05:53 Zorgaz wrote: 1: He is a brilliant RTS player and one of the great SC players. That takes BRAINS and PREPARATION and COMMON SENSE. And a hell lot of other things. I'm quiet sure he updated himself on all the new units and their abilities etc. . Man i did that and i'm just a casual noob. 2: He is not a idiot Need i say more lol?! yet he totally acted like whole upgrade never existed in showmatches against boxer which pretty well projects his overall skill currently, let alone whole And i never said that he would not get better fast, just saying that currently he is very bad in sc2 and bw history helps him little because there is so much things to learn first before he can truly utilize his general rts sense and mechanics. It helps him getting better faster though but currently his understanding of the game is probably so low that BW background does not make him superior. | ||
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beg
991 Posts
On August 23 2011 05:22 Zorgaz wrote: I have to agree with Disposition. Even if what your saying might make sense to you it's really just you talking out of your ass xd. Damn that shit about the bling speed and reaper was so stupid xD The fact that banelings have a speed upgrade and reapers can't shoot air is something he will have known since day 1 of playing lol. you agree with disposition? he just flamed someone for claiming that yellow will pick up SC2 faster than the average player... even though he is of the same opinion. weird. also lordwar was absolutely right.. his BW skills didn't help him a lot in those first ~50games*... dude, GOLD LEAGUE! *he played 30games during project a and has probably played a few before the show.. so im estimating 50 | ||
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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cscarfo1
United States307 Posts
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
On August 23 2011 05:08 LuciferSC wrote: Boxer was a 'failing legend' in sense that the new players such as Flash and Bisu were just that talented and were putting in efforts that he couldn't follow. He was still a talented and competent player. He would've beat any and all foreign players at that time. (sorry for this cheap shot, but I am quite offended by that statement and this is an easy analogy for the westerns to understand) That shows the level of talent & the level of dedication Boxer and other BW pros can put into SC2. Countless pro gamers were better than boxer, he wasn't what he use to be. 99% of Korean Pro gamers would be foreign pro gamers... whats your point? I never said he wasn't working and as dedicated as other pro gamers, I'm just telling you the results. The results don't lie. I like boxer, I follow him in SC2. There is nothing wrong with peoples time coming and going and being passed by. It it offends you to admit that a legendary player was on the decline and not performing at the highest level as other pro gamers, then be offended. Its the truth. It doesn't make boxer anything lessor. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:30 brachester wrote: It was confimred ages ago since there was a fake Slayers_Yellow in master. But this is a different and legit one. This is probably not legit Yellow, and you dont have any real evidence about this thing anyway. Why do you claim things without evidence? Get real | ||
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NoScary
United States151 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On August 23 2011 05:08 LuciferSC wrote: Boxer was a 'failing legend' in sense that the new players such as Flash and Bisu were just that talented and were putting in efforts that he couldn't follow. He was still a talented and competent player. He would've beat any and all foreign players at that time. (sorry for this cheap shot, but I am quite offended by that statement and this is an easy analogy for the westerns to understand) That shows the level of talent & the level of dedication Boxer and other BW pros can put into SC2. g5 and whitera bulldogged the shit out of boxer on destination in 2009 at ief. boxer was pretty bad even for a korean pro when he switched. | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
On August 23 2011 01:30 Lordwar wrote: he was worse than average gold, believe me. He was truly a bronze I can't believe there is even an argument about whether he is gold level or whatever. To put it in perspective, gositerran or sixjaxmajor now played the game in 3 weeks (I think) and made it to the top of the ladder in NA. I seriously can't believe you are arguing that one of the most successful progamers in BW is a gold leaguer. I really can not fathom how ignorant a statement that is. Oh my god.. | ||
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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riderLyrae
United States45 Posts
1. I doubt it is YellOw, as good as he is 1 month or so isn't enough time to get to top Masters IMO. 2. But if it is YellOw, this would be a crazier announcement than EGHuk | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
That user in reddit claims, that koreans have hard evidence that that account really is Yellow. But he is wrong, there is no hard evidence. | ||
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Arkanthiel
Philippines100 Posts
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
But the SlayerSYellOw account is a confirmed fake. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
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eourcs
United States459 Posts
On August 23 2011 06:38 K3Nyy wrote: I can't believe there is even an argument about whether he is gold level or whatever. To put it in perspective, gositerran or sixjaxmajor now played the game in 3 weeks (I think) and made it to the top of the ladder in NA. I seriously can't believe you are arguing that one of the most successful progamers in BW is a gold leaguer. I really can not fathom how ignorant a statement that is. Oh my god.. major used the account CHAVODELOCHO which was a friend's account, and as far as i know, he was already pretty high up on ladder. Also, major apparently played a bit with the ONE guys earlier so it's not like he went in there cold. | ||
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Phtes
United States370 Posts
On August 23 2011 07:56 hmunkey wrote: Of course YellOw is masters... come on. But the SlayerSYellOw account is a confirmed fake. SlayerS_YellOw was confirmed fake. Not this one. | ||
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BWILLdur
United States100 Posts
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
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beg
991 Posts
i guess you probably knew that... but... i can't imagine how one would want to build a conspiracy around this. why would they lie? ps: thewind is a horrible coach... he's not really helping so far and i can see how is attitude is demotivating poor yellow. | ||
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
On August 23 2011 01:11 Lordwar wrote: STOP IT NOW IDIOT We dont know for sure if its legit or not, probably not though. You are an idiot for calling me an idiot, as well as extremely ignorant. Besides that, Yellow has been offered a SlayerS slot for over a month, he has an account now named SlayerSYellow in Hangul, and he's been practicing with SlayerS members. I would love to hear any proof from your side before a snide remark of a 9 year old. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 23 2011 09:13 DeepBlu2 wrote: You are an idiot for calling me an idiot, as well as extremely ignorant. Besides that, Yellow has been offered a SlayerS slot for over a month, he has an account now named SlayerSYellow in Hangul, and he's been practicing with SlayerS members. I would love to hear any proof from your side before a snide remark of a 9 year old. That was before we knew, that those games in match history were told to be customs not some ladder games. | ||
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SoraLimit
Canada747 Posts
On August 23 2011 08:43 Lordwar wrote: Where is evidence that project A is filmed before showmatch against boxer? Second episode of project A. It's referenced a lot that they're training YellOw for Boxer, I think, a few weeks before the showmatch. | ||
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SilverPotato
United States560 Posts
He got good fast! | ||
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MurMiLLo
United States260 Posts
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
On August 23 2011 09:14 Lordwar wrote: That was before we knew, that those games in match history were told to be customs not some ladder games. That was not before we knew. That was all available before on reddit in the comments as soon as the OP went up or if you had a Korean account, like I do. I can't think of any reason why he would not be on SlayerS. However, Yellow on the account dosen't respond to anyone judging by Reddit so Jessica or Yellow won't admit it until the announcement comes out. Similar to EG and Huk, or Puzzle and SlayerS. I think the only thing holding Yellow back was the basic fundamentals of the game, which was basically anything that didn't come directly from BW... When he got that down, he instantly worked his way through the ranks. | ||
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pencil_ethics
Australia174 Posts
However, I'm about to drive the big one home here which essentially settles the SlayerSYellow argument once and for all. TIG just posted an interview with YellOw; jumping to the part which really interests us: 임진록 때는 골드 리그였다. 지금은 소속 리그가 어딘가? 3일 전(19일)에 마스터리그로 승격했어요. 그런데 우리 조가 새로 생긴 조인 모양이더라고요. 들어가자 마자 10등이던데... 지금은 조에서 5위 기록하고 있습니다. 같은 조에서 1위가 ‘슬레이어스코카’(슬레이어스 최종환) 선수 더라고요. 사람들에게 물어보니 저그로 프로토스전 굉장히 잘하는 선수라고 알려줬어요. Q: You were in Gold league at the time of Lim Jin Rok. What league are you in at the moment? A: 3 days ago (August 19) I was promoted to Masters. But it appears our division is a new one. As soon as I was promoted I was 10th... I am currently ranked 5th. It so happens that the top ranked player in my division is SlayerS_CoCa. When I asked around they told me he was extremely good at ZvT. Now, see this division and this account. As of writing, this SlayerSYellow account (yes, if you search sc2ranks there are two - one is the known fake) is currently ranked 15th in the linked division, has dropped rank slightly in recent days, was very recently promoted to Masters (the only thing which concerns me is the discrepancy in promotion date with the interview which states August 19, sc2ranks states August 20/21), and the division has a certain NEXCoCa in rank 1. Conclusion: if this SlayerSYellow account is not YellOw's, then another account in this division is. Let the discussion resume? | ||
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
On August 23 2011 15:34 pencil_ethics wrote: First, I will once again acknowledge that the original SlayerSYellow account is known to be a fake, and the account the OP mentions is fake also. (In fact, I suspect it's the original known fake.) However, I'm about to drive the big one home here which essentially settles the SlayerSYellow argument once and for all. TIG just posted an interview with YellOw; jumping to the part which really interests us: 임진록 때는 골드 리그였다. 지금은 소속 리그가 어딘가? 3일 전(19일)에 마스터리그로 승격했어요. 그런데 우리 조가 새로 생긴 조인 모양이더라고요. 들어가자 마자 10등이던데... 지금은 조에서 5위 기록하고 있습니다. 같은 조에서 1위가 ‘슬레이어스코카’(슬레이어스 최종환) 선수 더라고요. 사람들에게 물어보니 저그로 프로토스전 굉장히 잘하는 선수라고 알려줬어요. Q: You were in Gold league at the time of Lim Jin Rok. What league are you in at the moment? A: 3 days ago (August 19) I was promoted to Masters. But it appears our division is a new one. As soon as I was promoted I was 10th... I am currently ranked 5th. It so happens that the top ranked player in my division is SlayerS_CoCa. When I asked around they told me he was extremely good at ZvT. Now, see this division and this account. As of writing, this SlayerSYellow account (yes, if you search sc2ranks there are two - one is the known fake) is currently ranked 15th in the linked division, has dropped rank slightly in recent days, was very recently promoted to Masters (the only thing which concerns me is the discrepancy in promotion date with the interview which states August 19, sc2ranks states August 20/21), and the division has a certain NEXCoCa in rank 1. Conclusion: if this SlayerSYellow account is not YellOw's, then another account in this division is. Let the discussion resume? If it wasn't the real one though that is in OP, then why would SlayerS members, legitimate ones, as well other people of the community, practice with him? i wouldn't practice with someone who is trying to be deceiving. | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
On August 23 2011 15:34 pencil_ethics wrote: First, I will once again acknowledge that the original SlayerSYellow account is known to be a fake, and the account the OP mentions is fake also. (In fact, I suspect it's the original known fake.) However, I'm about to drive the big one home here which essentially settles the SlayerSYellow argument once and for all. TIG just posted an interview with YellOw; jumping to the part which really interests us: 임진록 때는 골드 리그였다. 지금은 소속 리그가 어딘가? 3일 전(19일)에 마스터리그로 승격했어요. 그런데 우리 조가 새로 생긴 조인 모양이더라고요. 들어가자 마자 10등이던데... 지금은 조에서 5위 기록하고 있습니다. 같은 조에서 1위가 ‘슬레이어스코카’(슬레이어스 최종환) 선수 더라고요. 사람들에게 물어보니 저그로 프로토스전 굉장히 잘하는 선수라고 알려줬어요. Q: You were in Gold league at the time of Lim Jin Rok. What league are you in at the moment? A: 3 days ago (August 19) I was promoted to Masters. But it appears our division is a new one. As soon as I was promoted I was 10th... I am currently ranked 5th. It so happens that the top ranked player in my division is SlayerS_CoCa. When I asked around they told me he was extremely good at ZvT. Now, see this division and this account. As of writing, this SlayerSYellow account (yes, if you search sc2ranks there are two - one is the known fake) is currently ranked 15th in the linked division, has dropped rank slightly in recent days, was very recently promoted to Masters (the only thing which concerns me is the discrepancy in promotion date with the interview which states August 19, sc2ranks states August 20/21), and the division has a certain NEXCoCa in rank 1. Conclusion: if this SlayerSYellow account is not YellOw's, then another account in this division is. Let the discussion resume? Nice Has that article been translated anywhere? Would like to read ^^ | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:25 namedplayer wrote: he is not real Yellow. confirmed by Jessica. link? | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On August 22 2011 21:36 zaii wrote: theres a reddit thread on this and it seems it is the real Yellow. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jqiah/yellow_made_masters_today_also_name_changed_to/ ummm... Lets just repeat what the OP said @_@ | ||
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acidstormy
United States191 Posts
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3249175/슬레이어스옐로우/season/2 His season 2 reports this account to having tons of games played in 1v1. In project A he had no idea how to even play the game | ||
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Crisco
1170 Posts
On August 23 2011 16:01 acidstormy wrote: I don't know if anyone saw this yet, becuase i didn't read past the 3rd page... BUT the sc2ranks profile given in the OP has a "season 2" ranking. Please respond to this, it may not be the real yellow after all. http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3249175/슬레이어스옐로우/season/2 His season 2 reports this account to having tons of games played in 1v1. In project A he had no idea how to even play the game maybe you should read everything first then?... seriously. There are two versions of SlayersYellow. One is a fake, but the other one is legitimate. The one you posted is fake, which has been posted about 50 billion times now. | ||
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acidstormy
United States191 Posts
On August 23 2011 16:03 Crisco wrote: maybe you should read everything first then?... seriously. There are two versions of SlayersYellow. One is a fake, but the other one is legitimate. The one you posted is fake, which has been posted about 50 billion times now. Calm down buddy, I took the link off of the OP I just went back to read page 9, which i didn't read yet. so question answered | ||
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ragnasaur
United States804 Posts
YellOw fighting! | ||
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NHY
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zergtat
Hong Kong853 Posts
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Mars.DreaM
United States24 Posts
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Hakkesshu
United States78 Posts
I mean if Nada and other BW pros (even the failed one) got into Code S since the beginning, why can't he do the same? I guess time is the obstacle here. | ||
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akaname
United Kingdom599 Posts
On August 23 2011 17:10 Hakkesshu wrote: A little off topic, but Project A wouldn't be a good show if Yellow started out well and got into Code A easily. I mean if Nada and other BW pros (even the failed one) got into Code S since the beginning, why can't he do the same? I guess time is the obstacle here. it makes me think/hope his poorness in show 2 was exaggerated (sp?) for dramatic effect, so when he does turn around and make code a we're all like "WOW in ONLY a month" | ||
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On August 23 2011 17:14 akaname wrote: it makes me think/hope his poorness in show 2 was exaggerated (sp?) for dramatic effect, so when he does turn around and make code a we're all like "WOW in ONLY a month" This is what I hope as well. I will gladly fall for that trick like a drugged up whore falling for a pimp's cocaine at the tail end of a dark and stormy night. However, I fear that he will play the Code A qualifiers like he does now, and that they will stream it :S Oh well, I can have faith I guess. | ||
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DrOmni
United States128 Posts
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Hakkesshu
United States78 Posts
On August 23 2011 17:14 akaname wrote: it makes me think/hope his poorness in show 2 was exaggerated (sp?) for dramatic effect, so when he does turn around and make code a we're all like "WOW in ONLY a month" Yeah, I find it hard to believe that he is that clueless about the game after playing several games. I mean i know what a speed upgrade is after one or two games. Not knowing the speed upgrade is like not knowing what an upgrade is. | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3386 Posts
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cablesc
United States1540 Posts
On August 23 2011 17:20 DrOmni wrote: Didn't Jessica say that Yellow would be a honorary member of slayer since she was his manager but would be able to start his own team or join another team if he so desired? Maybe I am just living in a false reality but I could swear I read it :S.. Yeah you read it in this article: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252792 I don't think this "SlayersYellow" thing is going to be forever. I feel that Yellow will train with slayers until he's good enough to form his own team. | ||
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edwahn
New Zealand121 Posts
On August 23 2011 16:28 NHY wrote: In his TIG interview, he says that he got into master league recently, and his division was newly formed, and #1 in his division is SlayersCoca. In SlayersCoca's division, there is only 1 zerg player who 1) joined the day division was created 2) hundreds of games played 3) no record from previous season, which is SlayersYellow. Thanks for the article. It all but confirms that this is his account. It was a good read in general. My Korean's terrible but I translated some interesting tidbits (it's ironic because I used bits of google translate to help me understand some of the bits. So all I did was really translate google translate's english in to... english -.-") *Project A has been received well in Korea (woohoo! I love that show) edit - the "woohoo" bit was my own comment lol *When asked about the Lim Jin Rok Mostly comments about how he’s bad at Starcraft II, with “rubbish skills” Even the game I won was really a game BoxeR lost for me I didn’t think I would win either, but I didn’t expect to lose like that. I thought I strategized enough, and thought that my prepared plays will at least make BoxeR think “wow, look at this guy. He’s got game” and I wanted to get that reaction from him, but instead I got embarrassed. Also, it’s been a while since I’ve been on the big stage, and I got nervous unexpectedly. (all of these comments made light-heartedly with laughs in between) *When asked about the stoking of his passion after the showmatch I don’t know why, but I got really angry. Not at BoxeR, but at myself. In that emotion, I said, “let’s see what happens next time” and now these words have come to haunt me. It was a spur of the moment comment, and I remember going to bed thinking “why did I say that? What did I just say?”, and regretting it. But now that it’s all said and done, I do have to take responsibility, don’t I? *When asked about Jessica being his agent People said that I was joining Slayers, but this is not the case. She just manages the Starcraft II aspects of my life, and I could end up playing for Slayers, or by myself, or for another team. (note this denial, as of 23rd August, means that even if SlayersYellow is indeed his account, he has not joined the team) *When asked about how he got a farewell and a welcome to Starcraft I/II, but Nada and BoxeR didn’t – is he apologetic to them Not at all. It’s their own faults. They should’ve done it like I did (laughs). I’m joking. But I wanted to ensure that I ended things right with BW. I spent 10 years with that game, and I couldn’t just end it casually. I had to take care of everything and bring closure and put much effort into that. It’s not that Nada and BoxeR did things wrong, but I just didn’t want to end that way. *When asked about the differences between BW/SCII It’s very different. I don’t know if I can compare it in this analogy, but SCII feels like SC with 4 or 5 expansions, and it feels complete. It feels like a similar game, but in order to get as good (he says “learn”) at SCII, you need to put in as much time as you did into SC. Imagine you are playing BW with 2001 builds and trends – this is how I feel currently. You can’t just approach SCII like it’s the same game. I don’t have a lot of time allotted to me, and I think it’s a short amount of time to try learn a race like Zerg. Hence I haven’t had time to try Protoss or Terran. People think I got to Masters quickly, but I’m still lacking in a lot of ways. When I played BW, I off-raced frequently. This is necessary to increase your understanding of matchups. (he makes a comment about not knowing how to use a certain type of units and other races’ strategies). *When asked about his chance of success in Code A (September 3~4) I’ve improved faster than I thought, and my resolve is the same, but what has changed is my opinion of the preliminary’s player pool. They’re a much higher standard than I thought. I practiced a lot with (younger players) and they are really good. But when I asked them, they said they also have to play in the preliminaries. It brutally showed me the difference in skill between myself and other players. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On August 23 2011 21:19 edwahn wrote: Thanks for the article. It all but confirms that this is his account. It was a good read in general. My Korean's terrible but I translated some interesting tidbits (it's ironic because I used bits of google translate to help me understand some of the bits. So all I did was really translate google translate's english in to... english -.-") *Project A has been received well in Korea - woohoo! I love that show. *When asked about the Lim Jin Rok Mostly comments about how he’s bad at Starcraft II, with “rubbish skills” Even the game I won was really a game BoxeR lost for me I didn’t think I would win either, but I didn’t expect to lose like that. I thought I strategized enough, and thought that my prepared plays will at least make BoxeR think “wow, look at this guy. He’s got game” and I wanted to get that reaction from him, but instead I got embarrassed. Also, it’s been a while since I’ve been on the big stage, and I got nervous unexpectedly. (all of these comments made light-heartedly with laughs in between) *When asked about the stoking of his passion after the showmatch I don’t know why, but I got really angry. Not at BoxeR, but at myself. In that emotion, I said, “let’s see what happens next time” and now these words have come to haunt me. It was a spur of the moment comment, and I remember going to bed thinking “why did I say that? What did I just say?”, and regretting it. But now that it’s all said and done, I do have to take responsibility, don’t I? *When asked about Jessica being his agent People said that I was joining Slayers, but this is not the case. She just manages the Starcraft II aspects of my life, and I could end up playing for Slayers, or by myself, or for another team. (note this denial, as of 23rd August, means that even if SlayersYellow is indeed his account, he has not joined the team) *When asked about how he got a farewell and a welcome to Starcraft I/II, but Nada and BoxeR didn’t – is he apologetic to them Not at all. It’s their own faults. They should’ve done it like I did (laughs). I’m joking. But I wanted to ensure that I ended things right with BW. I spent 10 years with that game, and I couldn’t just end it casually. I had to take care of everything and bring closure and put much effort into that. It’s not that Nada and BoxeR did things wrong, but I just didn’t want to end that way. *When asked about the differences between BW/SCII It’s very different. I don’t know if I can compare it in this analogy, but SCII feels like SC with 4 or 5 expansions, and it feels complete. It feels like a similar game, but in order to get as good (he says “learn”) at SCII, you need to put in as much time as you did into SC. Imagine you are playing BW with 2001 builds and trends – this is how I feel currently. You can’t just approach SCII like it’s the same game. I don’t have a lot of time allotted to me, and I think it’s a short amount of time to try learn a race like Zerg. Hence I haven’t had time to try Protoss or Terran. People think I got to Masters quickly, but I’m still lacking in a lot of ways. When I played BW, I off-raced frequently. This is necessary to increase your understanding of matchups. (he makes a comment about not knowing how to use a certain type of units and other races’ strategies). *When asked about his chance of success in Code A (September 3~4) I’ve improved faster than I thought, and my resolve is the same, but what has changed is my opinion of the preliminary’s player pool. They’re a much higher standard than I thought. I practiced a lot with (younger players) and they are really good. But when I asked them, they said they also have to play in the preliminaries. I brutally showed me the difference in skill between myself and other players. Thanks for the translation and i like what yellow thinks about sc2 seeing how it is similiar to the scene in bw in 2001 well I guess you can look at it that way .... | ||
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edwahn
New Zealand121 Posts
Plus the comments on how good his practice partners are, and the kind of language/emotion he used to describe the skill gap between himself and others, all seems to point that he perhaps underestimated how skillful SCII pros were, and that his performance was indeed genuine. Or maybe that's what I'll just believe so that if he gets code A, I'll be ecstatic, and if he doesn't, I'll shed a tear for him. | ||
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edwahn
New Zealand121 Posts
On August 23 2011 21:23 Sawamura wrote: Thanks for the translation and i like what yellow thinks about sc2 seeing how it is similiar to the scene in bw in 2001 well I guess you can look at it that way .... Sorry, I might have worded it badly; what he meant was that he felt like he was using 2001 BW builds against current BW pros (as in he is very far behind other SCII players in terms of strategies and builds) | ||
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
On August 23 2011 06:38 K3Nyy wrote: I can't believe there is even an argument about whether he is gold level or whatever. To put it in perspective, gositerran or sixjaxmajor now played the game in 3 weeks (I think) and made it to the top of the ladder in NA. I seriously can't believe you are arguing that one of the most successful progamers in BW is a gold leaguer. I really can not fathom how ignorant a statement that is. Oh my god.. For someone who doesn't know the game at all, solely relying on mechanics doesn't necessarily get you past gold in KR server, EVEN if you're YellOw. You also have to remember that YellOw is playing zerg, not terran which I think is easier to get high ranking if you have little game knowledge and just focus on builds. Also there's a new YellOw account on korea does this have anything to do with him: http://sc2ranks.com/kr/2343656/YellOw | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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purecarnagge
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edwahn
New Zealand121 Posts
On August 24 2011 08:35 dgwow wrote: For someone who doesn't know the game at all, solely relying on mechanics doesn't necessarily get you past gold in KR server, EVEN if you're YellOw. You also have to remember that YellOw is playing zerg, not terran which I think is easier to get high ranking if you have little game knowledge and just focus on builds. Also there's a new YellOw account on korea does this have anything to do with him: http://sc2ranks.com/kr/2343656/YellOw I might have forgotten to translate a critical piece of information - the above link is quite likely to be Yellow, because in the interview he mentioned that CoCa was in the same Master's league with him as the number #1. The link to that account seems to have NEXCoCa as number 1, AND his promotion to Masters fits the timeline mentioned in the interview edit: wait wtf, there are two yellows in that league???? http://sc2ranks.com/kr/2343656/YellOw http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3329283/슬레이어스옐로우 | ||
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