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slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 01 2011 04:38 GMT
#221
MVP has had the most tournament results, but he has slumped recently in the GSL. If he cam make to RO4 or better next season than the title should be his.
blah blah blah...
rickybobby
Profile Joined October 2010
United States405 Posts
August 01 2011 04:47 GMT
#222
there definitely is not a 'king' of terran but if its anyone its MVP
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
August 01 2011 04:50 GMT
#223
Bomber
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 01 2011 04:52 GMT
#224
Still no king yet, in my opinion, but MVP is looking really strong again.

The players with the most potential in my opinion are MVP/MMA, Bomber/Byun, Polt/Puma. Funny alliteration going on here. Taking the first letters gives us MBP, which is how Koreans pronounce "MVP". Coincidence?
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 01 2011 04:53 GMT
#225
Still no one.

MVP can win his throne back if he can do work in GSL again.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 04:54:55
August 01 2011 04:53 GMT
#226
On August 01 2011 13:31 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:29 lunchforthesky wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:36 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:34 GoKu` wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:32 Haydin wrote:
best overall I'd say MVP right now. I mean, + Show Spoiler +
he just proved that he could win a long 3-day tourney as well as a prepare-for-a-week style tournament


Thats what everyone says after every + Show Spoiler +
tournament win, look at PoltPrime vs MMA, POLT WAS all the rage "OMG HE SO GOOD NEW SUPERSTAR" BEST PLAYER EVER OMG. Then a week later... dies down.


Polt is still a Super Tourney winner with an amazing TvP

MVP is a 2x GSL winner and just won a tourney where the top 8 are all code-S level players.

I would argue that, since he didn't have weeks to prepare to every match, MLG might have been harder to win than a GSL, minus NesTea.


In no way on earth is MLG harder to win than Code S.
+ Show Spoiler +
The only Code S standard players MVP beat all weekend were MMA, Ganzi and DRG and in terms of players actually in Code S he beat none.


Go look at NesTea's bracket last GSL.

It was way easier than MLG up to Losira.

Fact is, sometimes GSL has really hard or really easy sides of a bracket.


July, Coca, Hongun, Losira and Ensnare is not a particularly easy run, and most of those players beat some very good players to get there.

And of course if GSL were easy to win we wouldn't have 7 out of 9 won by 3 players.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
August 01 2011 04:54 GMT
#227
On August 01 2011 13:53 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:31 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:29 lunchforthesky wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:36 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:34 GoKu` wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:32 Haydin wrote:
best overall I'd say MVP right now. I mean, + Show Spoiler +
he just proved that he could win a long 3-day tourney as well as a prepare-for-a-week style tournament


Thats what everyone says after every + Show Spoiler +
tournament win, look at PoltPrime vs MMA, POLT WAS all the rage "OMG HE SO GOOD NEW SUPERSTAR" BEST PLAYER EVER OMG. Then a week later... dies down.


Polt is still a Super Tourney winner with an amazing TvP

MVP is a 2x GSL winner and just won a tourney where the top 8 are all code-S level players.

I would argue that, since he didn't have weeks to prepare to every match, MLG might have been harder to win than a GSL, minus NesTea.


In no way on earth is MLG harder to win than Code S.
+ Show Spoiler +
The only Code S standard players MVP beat all weekend were MMA, Ganzi and DRG and in terms of players actually in Code S he beat none.


Go look at NesTea's bracket last GSL.

It was way easier than MLG up to Losira.

Fact is, sometimes GSL has really hard or really easy sides of a bracket.


July, Coca, Hongun, Losira and Ensnare is not a particularly easy run, and most of those players beat some very good players to get there.


July's zvz is laughable. Can't speak for coca. Hongun isn't particularly impressive either, nor is ensnare.
The Notorious Winkles
GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
August 01 2011 04:56 GMT
#228
If it's anyone its MVP but really there hasn't been one that's truly been dominant
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 04:58:18
August 01 2011 04:58 GMT
#229
Boxer - He is a legendary T, the coach of the best T team imaginable and still capable of beating anyone on any day. He is literally, the King Terran.
www.KoshkaTV.com
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
August 01 2011 04:58 GMT
#230
On August 01 2011 13:54 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:53 lunchforthesky wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:31 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:29 lunchforthesky wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:36 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:34 GoKu` wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:32 Haydin wrote:
best overall I'd say MVP right now. I mean, + Show Spoiler +
he just proved that he could win a long 3-day tourney as well as a prepare-for-a-week style tournament


Thats what everyone says after every + Show Spoiler +
tournament win, look at PoltPrime vs MMA, POLT WAS all the rage "OMG HE SO GOOD NEW SUPERSTAR" BEST PLAYER EVER OMG. Then a week later... dies down.


Polt is still a Super Tourney winner with an amazing TvP

MVP is a 2x GSL winner and just won a tourney where the top 8 are all code-S level players.

I would argue that, since he didn't have weeks to prepare to every match, MLG might have been harder to win than a GSL, minus NesTea.


In no way on earth is MLG harder to win than Code S.
+ Show Spoiler +
The only Code S standard players MVP beat all weekend were MMA, Ganzi and DRG and in terms of players actually in Code S he beat none.


Go look at NesTea's bracket last GSL.

It was way easier than MLG up to Losira.

Fact is, sometimes GSL has really hard or really easy sides of a bracket.


July, Coca, Hongun, Losira and Ensnare is not a particularly easy run, and most of those players beat some very good players to get there.


July's zvz is laughable. Can't speak for coca. Hongun isn't particularly impressive either, nor is ensnare.


July beat Sen in ZvZ at Dreamhack, can't be too laughable.

Coca has barely played ZvZ so can't comment on that but his other matchups especially ZvP are very good.

Hongun is really underrated, he beat Supernova, Zenio and MC to reach Nestea. As countless foreign tournaments show you don't just randomly beat those standard of players without being good (given Huk is the only foreigner with any kind of continued success vs Koreans in anything).

Ensnare's pretty weak for a Code S player but he obviously has managed to stay in Code S since the first season for a reason.
C.W.
Profile Joined August 2010
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 04:59:21
August 01 2011 04:58 GMT
#231
On August 01 2011 13:52 KimJongChill wrote:
Still no king yet, in my opinion, but MVP is looking really strong again.

The players with the most potential in my opinion are MVP/MMA, Bomber/Byun, Polt/Puma. Funny alliteration going on here. Taking the first letters gives us MBP, which is how Koreans pronounce "MVP". Coincidence?

The fact that there are this many aspirants (together with others I'm sure; you can never write off MKP, TOP gained momentum recently too) just shows that none of the top terrans could dominate long enough to get reasonably ahead in the "Best Terran"-race.
So I (agree and) say: currently no1.
t(','t)
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 01 2011 04:59 GMT
#232
I still want a TvT tournament with all the guys on the poll. A true king should be able to smack down his subjects.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 01 2011 05:00 GMT
#233
On August 01 2011 13:54 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:53 lunchforthesky wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:31 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:29 lunchforthesky wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:36 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:34 GoKu` wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:32 Haydin wrote:
best overall I'd say MVP right now. I mean, + Show Spoiler +
he just proved that he could win a long 3-day tourney as well as a prepare-for-a-week style tournament


Thats what everyone says after every + Show Spoiler +
tournament win, look at PoltPrime vs MMA, POLT WAS all the rage "OMG HE SO GOOD NEW SUPERSTAR" BEST PLAYER EVER OMG. Then a week later... dies down.


Polt is still a Super Tourney winner with an amazing TvP

MVP is a 2x GSL winner and just won a tourney where the top 8 are all code-S level players.

I would argue that, since he didn't have weeks to prepare to every match, MLG might have been harder to win than a GSL, minus NesTea.


In no way on earth is MLG harder to win than Code S.
+ Show Spoiler +
The only Code S standard players MVP beat all weekend were MMA, Ganzi and DRG and in terms of players actually in Code S he beat none.


Go look at NesTea's bracket last GSL.

It was way easier than MLG up to Losira.

Fact is, sometimes GSL has really hard or really easy sides of a bracket.


July, Coca, Hongun, Losira and Ensnare is not a particularly easy run, and most of those players beat some very good players to get there.


July's zvz is laughable. Can't speak for coca. Hongun isn't particularly impressive either, nor is ensnare.


I think people just don't give enough credit to the mid-range code S players. We've all seen how fierce code A has become recently, so this makes even staying in Code S that much more impressive, in my opinion. The weaker players like MarineKing, FruitDealer, and Inca--all iconic players in their own right--are already getting quickly weeded out, so I really think that people should take the average Code S players more seriously. Give them the chance to go to MLG, and I'm sure they'd do extremely well.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
August 01 2011 05:03 GMT
#234
On August 01 2011 14:00 KimJongChill wrote:
The weaker players like MarineKing[...]


wat.
xlord 5:0
LordLuo
Profile Joined April 2010
United States37 Posts
August 01 2011 05:05 GMT
#235
No love for ZenexByun ? He seems to always be improving, made top 4 in the last GSL, has perhaps the strongest TvT in the world right now (at least in terms of consistency and stamina), and easily one of the smarter, consistent players right now. I would still say MVP is the best terran, only terran right now that is amazingly strong in every matchup (I'd say Bomber's tvz right now is weak) and MVP always plays well and refined. Some say his TvP is slightly weak but I completely disagree, he's very consistent.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
August 01 2011 05:06 GMT
#236
On August 01 2011 14:03 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:00 KimJongChill wrote:
The weaker players like MarineKing[...]


wat.


MarineKing cheeses awfully lot and 1-bases.
But his management games i seen of him in the recent past were absolutely not impressive.
wat
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 01 2011 05:07 GMT
#237
On August 01 2011 14:03 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:00 KimJongChill wrote:
The weaker players like MarineKing[...]


wat.


He's been slumping hard, underperforms in GSTL, and has been knocked down into code A. In my opinion, he is no longer a top tier Terran player.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 01 2011 05:08 GMT
#238
I see MVP getting a surge in votes after his win today, but while I'm a huge MVP fan but I don't think winning MLG Anaheim is enough to proclaim him the King of Terrrans. With his 2 GSL championships and a major foreign win he's the closest, but I think he has to get his revenge on Bomber and beat him in a BoX before he can truly reclaim his throne.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
August 01 2011 05:15 GMT
#239
Clearly MVP. I don't think there's actually any competition. I'm not just talking about his MLG win. In my eyes he's always been the best terran and the KR triumvirate hasn't been modified since its establishment (I mean MC, MVP and NesTea).

Yes, he's been on somewhat of a slump for a while now, but whenever I see him play I see the spirit of BW channeled into his play. He's solid as a rock, has the safest, most stable play, if not the most creative. MVP has the potential to become a true terran star if he can be more consistent. His macro is flawless, his micro is pretty damn good and he's a tactical genius to boot.

He's also got some of that "cheater terran" thing going on. He just loses an army and suddenly an even larger army is out there. This is somewhat of a unique characteristic of him, and every great player has one of these. For instance, MC always seems to have that tech a few seconds before other protoss players, and NesTea can defend rushes other players can't dream of defending.

Those 3 are the kings of their respective races, the rest can only stare in awe for now.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 05:18:01
August 01 2011 05:17 GMT
#240
On August 01 2011 14:07 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:03 Awesomeness wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:00 KimJongChill wrote:
The weaker players like MarineKing[...]


wat.


He's been slumping hard, underperforms in GSTL, and has been knocked down into code A. In my opinion, he is no longer a top tier Terran player.


Marineking made it to the semi-finals of the super tournament (and was up 2:0) not even 2 months ago and fell down in like the sickest code s group, losing to Alicia and Losira.

I mean he had some bad results lately, but he is not a "weaker code s"-player because of that, just not playing up to his potential. (The fact that his tvt-style doesn't really work anymore doesn't help either...)
xlord 5:0
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