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Ursadak vs. Automaton 2000 - Micro Bot Duel - Page 16

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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 29 2011 02:32 GMT
#301
On July 29 2011 11:20 RoyaleBrainSlug wrote:
if it can do all that marine splitting, why couldn't it split its scvs individually?

...You have me there.
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darglein
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany89 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 03:58:21
July 29 2011 03:54 GMT
#302
hi, i made a little FAQ


how did you make the replays?

first of all the AI can only micro marines. the ai doesent do anything else.
for the replays i created modified version of the maps where the players can enable and disable the ai with buttons. so i controlled the terran players until the big fight. in the big fight i just pressed a button and the marines were microed by themselves.

why is it a micro bot duell??

of course its not a direct micro bot duell. its more a comparison of this 2 bots. i made ursadak because a lot of people said after seeing automaton 2000 something like that " OMG this is the best micro i have ever seen. SOO SICK!!!!!!" . So my intention was to show you that a good marine micro AI needs more then running away from units in a certain range until the distance is big enough to fire again, all of course in a completly flat huge empty area.

automaton 2000 is much better than ursadak!!!!

its true that automaton dont lose any marines in the mariens vs. banelings battle. so its true that automaton is better if the mission is to kill only banelings with stim on a wide area without obstacles. but the problem is automaton would completly fail on realistic ingame szenarios like i showed in the videos. my ai was developed to do well in a wide range of szenarios on all kind of different terrain. for example watch the part with the baneling bust again and you will see some marines running to the left behind the mineral line of the command centre and finding a way back to the other marines without getting surrounded or stuck in a corner.

will there be a unbeatable non cheating AI?

thats definitly not possible, but there are plans that i will work with the creator of green tea AI together to create the most powerfull micro/macro AI out there.


sorry for my bad english i hope you understand it all

- darglein
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
July 29 2011 04:03 GMT
#303
Fungal growth says hi.

Saltydizzle
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
July 29 2011 05:03 GMT
#304
Darglein I just wanted to say thank you for all the custom micro challenges you have made. They have helped my micro intensely. Everyone can see the passion and appreciate the time you spent. Your english is just fine! Thanks Again!
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
July 29 2011 06:02 GMT
#305
On July 29 2011 13:03 Tektos wrote:
Fungal growth says hi.


I didn't know spells could talk
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 29 2011 06:59 GMT
#306
On July 29 2011 15:02 Reptilia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 13:03 Tektos wrote:
Fungal growth says hi.


I didn't know spells could talk


Psionic storm says "fbsdkjfbskdjgbskjdg".
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dumplings
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 13:19:43
July 29 2011 13:18 GMT
#307
Everytime I see those AI Videos, i always think "Why must those "incredible A.I.s" only defend against "A-Move Attacks".

Are that A.I.s especially trained to fight against A-Move Attacks/Blizzard Attackmove A.I. and can't handle better/individuell attacks (like defending Banelingattacks/micro from Nestea or another "incredible A.I")?

As long as this isn't happening... for me its just a (ONE) script. No A.I. (many scripts). Just a videoanimation. But a nice one.
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Nuf
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark145 Posts
July 30 2011 00:09 GMT
#308
Woah.. That's amazing
For the Swarm!
ProBaller
Profile Joined April 2011
United States33 Posts
July 30 2011 08:32 GMT
#309
i cried the manliest of man tears as i watched this video. R.I.P all those brave zerglings who gave their lives for the ursadak. Better the ursadak then the lyote. Really cool bot though, fun to show people and tell them that it isnt a bot.
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Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
August 01 2011 20:15 GMT
#310
lol. if korean pros could micro like that (they almost can) this game would be so broken.
i like cheese
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 01 2011 20:20 GMT
#311
Would be cool to see a micro like this with protoss!
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 01 2011 20:24 GMT
#312
u should do some of those battles on creep, maybe that will actually kill some marines.
Konaa
Profile Joined April 2011
103 Posts
August 01 2011 20:33 GMT
#313
Even if people got some sort of cybernetic implant to do this, their keyboard and mouse would be completely wrecked after every game.
boblzer0
Profile Joined May 2010
84 Posts
August 01 2011 20:53 GMT
#314
this is why zerg sucks, you just don't have the ability to do this kind of crazy micro so as micro skill increases they just get worse. like banelings are only good if your opponent isn't really good. such a crap shoot.
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