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ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
July 22 2011 08:20 GMT
#361
I am truly sorry it had to come down to this, but i think on a long therm, this is a good decision for both parties. It's never a good thing when a player and a team part ways even if they were arguing or not over small things, because the bottom line is it affects both parties in some way or another.

I hope the best for Sheth, he is a great player and i am sure he will keep growing as a talent in the SC2 field and will have great success.

As for FXO, keep up what u guys are doing because u are doing it ok. I hope the best at GSL and to see u grow even larger. U are loved by all
U MAD BRO?
Nadrius
Profile Joined May 2011
United States24 Posts
July 22 2011 08:21 GMT
#362
wtb Liquid.Sheth
You can't take the sky from me
wOOt
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia121 Posts
July 22 2011 08:23 GMT
#363
Sad news, gl sheth and FXO.
"Don't gg to fags" - Destiny
vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
July 22 2011 08:24 GMT
#364
gl sheth in finding a good team
For the swarm!
Nowis0n
Profile Joined June 2011
United States47 Posts
July 22 2011 08:24 GMT
#365
I wonder what he's planning on.
Borgme
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark16 Posts
July 22 2011 08:24 GMT
#366
Sad news indeed! But guess its for the better if ur ambitions doesn't match.
Day[9] <3
StatikKhaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States214 Posts
July 22 2011 08:24 GMT
#367
On July 22 2011 15:35 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 15:33 FXOpen wrote:
Hi Guys,

It is very sad for me to announce that FXO and Sheth have parted ways on mutual grounds.

FXO as an organisation has a vision, and Sheth as a player and person has a vision, and these two do not coincide.

Sheth will remain a friend of mine, and we are supportive of each other. However we feel it best to end our business relationship.

I look forward to seeing sheth at major tournaments and wish him the best of luck in his journey.


FXOBoSs



Yeah lets just cut the only one of the fxo guys that made code a lol :D smart choice lol

I doubt they cut him, sheth has said previously he likes being home with his friends and family FXO probably felt like they wanted him to be more abroad. Thats probably why he left
Those Bitches
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 22 2011 08:24 GMT
#368
On July 22 2011 17:19 Hasire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 17:13 dtz wrote:
On July 22 2011 17:06 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On July 22 2011 16:59 fourColo wrote:
On July 22 2011 16:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On July 22 2011 16:56 Hasire wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=242817

I really wish teams would stop giving players half-information, or even misinformation as it feels in this case.

If it was a strong possibility that Sheth would be leaving the team, don't tell us that he will still be part of the team.


He's still part of the team until a contract ends or is terminated. To say otherwise just creates needless drama and lots of discord for no real purpose. That's why it's standard practice.

Uh I'm pretty sure the contract is being terminated on mutually agreed upon terms.


Hasire is talking about BoSs' post from a few weeks ago. He's saying he wishes that companies wouldn't say "X person is still with the company" when they may or not be on their way out. Which is what I was commenting on.


Now with the acquisition of fOu, their plans are likely to be even more Korea-centric ( or at least Asia centric) and Sheth who much prefers to see his families and friends often and dislike pro-house environment won't be able to contribute much in the Asia/Korea scene.



I thought the point of the FXO/fOu merger was to make both teams more international, not more Korea focused.

This really does feel like a situation of "Well now we have Koreans, so we can dump our star player who didn't want to live in Korea".


Also, are we being expected to believe that the FXO/fOu merger wasn't basically done by the time NASL finished? I find it hard to believe the two teams would start up talks on this level, work out the financials, and come to agreement in about three days [July 18 -> July 22].

If anything, it is more likely to believe that Sheth knew about the merger, didn't like what the team would become, and decided to go back home. Which just leads back to my original point, FXO just BS'd us about Sheth's status with the team.


Lol, nice one.. I'll contact TMZ with that right now.

Everyone knew about the merger, FXO is not and will never be korean orientated as a location. We have what I would call a "Branch" there. And thats just because of my own opportunistic personality. It wasn't planned at all.

I do not see the US being the centre point of e-sports. Thats true, but I don't see it in korea either. But at the same time, people should respect korea for a bunch of things, 1) its history and 2) its talent. There is no harm as a pro gamer spending some time in korea. It helps people to understand the requirement to be the best.

Some people do not wish to be the best and thats fine. But FXO is in the business of creating the best possible.

NOTE: THis is not relevant to Sheth, this is part of my explanation why korea is what it is.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
July 22 2011 08:25 GMT
#369
Sheth, the slayer of San, the inventor of the lapboard, the manner zerg, he will continue to amaze us, in whatever team or even without a team.

You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
kytten
Profile Joined December 2010
United States163 Posts
July 22 2011 08:26 GMT
#370
GL to Shethykins in everything he does. And good luck to FXO without him.

Gogo EGSheth!

(Side note, i really really hope he goes anywhere but CoL. Please, please please. .-.)
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." ~Friedrich Nietzsche
TheRealFluid
Profile Joined June 2011
United States501 Posts
July 22 2011 08:28 GMT
#371
Sheth to Reign anyone?
"The wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king.||"What do you say to god of gg? NOT TODAY" -John the Translator. "Give me Command" -Yellow.
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
July 22 2011 08:28 GMT
#372
On July 22 2011 17:24 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 17:19 Hasire wrote:
On July 22 2011 17:13 dtz wrote:
On July 22 2011 17:06 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On July 22 2011 16:59 fourColo wrote:
On July 22 2011 16:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On July 22 2011 16:56 Hasire wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=242817

I really wish teams would stop giving players half-information, or even misinformation as it feels in this case.

If it was a strong possibility that Sheth would be leaving the team, don't tell us that he will still be part of the team.


He's still part of the team until a contract ends or is terminated. To say otherwise just creates needless drama and lots of discord for no real purpose. That's why it's standard practice.

Uh I'm pretty sure the contract is being terminated on mutually agreed upon terms.


Hasire is talking about BoSs' post from a few weeks ago. He's saying he wishes that companies wouldn't say "X person is still with the company" when they may or not be on their way out. Which is what I was commenting on.


Now with the acquisition of fOu, their plans are likely to be even more Korea-centric ( or at least Asia centric) and Sheth who much prefers to see his families and friends often and dislike pro-house environment won't be able to contribute much in the Asia/Korea scene.



I thought the point of the FXO/fOu merger was to make both teams more international, not more Korea focused.

This really does feel like a situation of "Well now we have Koreans, so we can dump our star player who didn't want to live in Korea".


Also, are we being expected to believe that the FXO/fOu merger wasn't basically done by the time NASL finished? I find it hard to believe the two teams would start up talks on this level, work out the financials, and come to agreement in about three days [July 18 -> July 22].

If anything, it is more likely to believe that Sheth knew about the merger, didn't like what the team would become, and decided to go back home. Which just leads back to my original point, FXO just BS'd us about Sheth's status with the team.


Lol, nice one.. I'll contact TMZ with that right now.

Everyone knew about the merger, FXO is not and will never be korean orientated as a location. We have what I would call a "Branch" there. And thats just because of my own opportunistic personality. It wasn't planned at all.

I do not see the US being the centre point of e-sports. Thats true, but I don't see it in korea either. But at the same time, people should respect korea for a bunch of things, 1) its history and 2) its talent. There is no harm as a pro gamer spending some time in korea. It helps people to understand the requirement to be the best.

Some people do not wish to be the best and thats fine. But FXO is in the business of creating the best possible.

NOTE: THis is not relevant to Sheth, this is part of my explanation why korea is what it is.


Out of curiousity, Where do you think this centre point of e-Sport will be located?


Simply Awesome! - Liquid'Ret - NSHoSeo_Seal - coLMVP_DRG - EG_Idra - Fnatic.NightEnd
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 22 2011 08:29 GMT
#373
On July 22 2011 17:24 StatikKhaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 15:35 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
On July 22 2011 15:33 FXOpen wrote:
Hi Guys,

It is very sad for me to announce that FXO and Sheth have parted ways on mutual grounds.

FXO as an organisation has a vision, and Sheth as a player and person has a vision, and these two do not coincide.

Sheth will remain a friend of mine, and we are supportive of each other. However we feel it best to end our business relationship.

I look forward to seeing sheth at major tournaments and wish him the best of luck in his journey.


FXOBoSs



Yeah lets just cut the only one of the fxo guys that made code a lol :D smart choice lol

I doubt they cut him, sheth has said previously he likes being home with his friends and family FXO probably felt like they wanted him to be more abroad. Thats probably why he left

That's probably the most logical explanation. And Sheth didn't make Code A, rofl. He got invited. Which obviously was a mistake.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
July 22 2011 08:29 GMT
#374
Expected, i hope he gets into a very nice team as he's probably the second nicest living person on Earth. Though, it looks like that big teams want to invest in Koreans. Liquid`Sheth would be nice :d
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
July 22 2011 08:29 GMT
#375
Not surprised at the conflicts of visions.

Fxo's vision is a noble one, wanting to do the best they can and be a top team.

Sheth's vision was going to Korea for a tiny amount of time and then abandoning his team while being captain.

I'm very proud and supportive of FXO's decision.
I <3 Plexa.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
July 22 2011 08:30 GMT
#376
On July 22 2011 17:24 FXOpen wrote:I do not see the US being the centre point of e-sports. Thats true, but I don't see it in korea either. But at the same time, people should respect korea for a bunch of things, 1) its history and 2) its talent. There is no harm as a pro gamer spending some time in korea. It helps people to understand the requirement to be the best.


so where is the center of e-sports then? on the moon? I think if not korea, the USA is the best place. Maybe europe but I don't know, USA seems like the best option there is.
Gh86
Profile Joined June 2011
646 Posts
July 22 2011 08:30 GMT
#377
I can't help but feel a bit sad, but it's nice to see that it is a mutual decision and I wish nothing but the best of luck to both Sheth and FXO
Syncrose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States6 Posts
July 22 2011 08:31 GMT
#378
Sheth is a nerd crusher though. I have no doubts he will be manner elsewhere and be extremely successful with his next choice. Big pickup from another team inc..
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 22 2011 08:31 GMT
#379
On July 22 2011 17:19 Hasire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 17:13 dtz wrote:
On July 22 2011 17:06 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On July 22 2011 16:59 fourColo wrote:
On July 22 2011 16:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On July 22 2011 16:56 Hasire wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=242817

I really wish teams would stop giving players half-information, or even misinformation as it feels in this case.

If it was a strong possibility that Sheth would be leaving the team, don't tell us that he will still be part of the team.


He's still part of the team until a contract ends or is terminated. To say otherwise just creates needless drama and lots of discord for no real purpose. That's why it's standard practice.

Uh I'm pretty sure the contract is being terminated on mutually agreed upon terms.


Hasire is talking about BoSs' post from a few weeks ago. He's saying he wishes that companies wouldn't say "X person is still with the company" when they may or not be on their way out. Which is what I was commenting on.


Now with the acquisition of fOu, their plans are likely to be even more Korea-centric ( or at least Asia centric) and Sheth who much prefers to see his families and friends often and dislike pro-house environment won't be able to contribute much in the Asia/Korea scene.



I thought the point of the FXO/fOu merger was to make both teams more international, not more Korea focused.

This really does feel like a situation of "Well now we have Koreans, so we can dump our star player who didn't want to live in Korea".


Also, are we being expected to believe that the FXO/fOu merger wasn't basically done by the time NASL finished? I find it hard to believe the two teams would start up talks on this level, work out the financials, and come to agreement in about three days [July 18 -> July 22].

If anything, it is more likely to believe that Sheth knew about the merger, didn't like what the team would become, and decided to go back home. Which just leads back to my original point, FXO just BS'd us about Sheth's status with the team.


How is it more likely to assume things not said when Sheth discussed why he went back home and that Sheth was still a part of the team until such time as Sheth & BoSs discussed plans. You're looking for a pine needle when the forest is staring at you. FXO is going to be SEA centric, Sheth is wants to be based out of Florida (and he might have school soon as well, I don't know though). They part ways because it's best for both parties. Makes a lot of sense to me.
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
July 22 2011 08:33 GMT
#380
I keep feeling FXO buys themselves into the spotlight.
I'm glad Sheth parted. Hopefully he'll be picked up by good team.
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