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On July 19 2011 06:52 Meteora.GB wrote:
Puzzle has always been hyped up but he was always back in the seat compare to the hype MMA and Bomber were getting. Its nice to see him in Code S as a strong Protoss. Every Code A champion and finalist has always had solid success in Code S. With players like Coca, Byun, Line and Puzzle, ZeNEX is finally starting to shape into a solid team.
I think its because when he was shown in the GSTL he didn't do that great. (he ended up losing each game) Bomber and MMA gave us great games in the Team League.
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On July 18 2011 23:01 Phosgene wrote:
As long as I practice hard, I believe the chance that I retain my spot is 100%. I believe I will keep it until I retire.
Wow it's a bold statement, I hope for his sake he's right.
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On July 19 2011 06:43 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:35 akaname wrote:
did puzzle knock dong rae gu out of code b in the finals?
i love these up-and-coming players when they finally hit code a, was so great seeing Bomber own up. I remember in January people were saying "wait until you see Bomber and Puzzle, they're code s material".
who else have we got incoming (dong rae gu or sage next?) Nope. That was oGsHero who knocked him out.
thanks.
yeah, sorry QTIP i am overhyping sage there probably. just wonder who really is next up... tbf sage did all kill, i think seed just won a couple with funky strats (i loved that guy!) but 1 GSTL isn't enough to be the next big thing.
edit: the point is, those in the know were hyping bomber and puzzle, rather than fools like me seeing 4 games and making huge assumptions. i want those in the know to tell me who is up next 
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On July 19 2011 06:55 skrzmark wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:52 Meteora.GB wrote:
Puzzle has always been hyped up but he was always back in the seat compare to the hype MMA and Bomber were getting. Its nice to see him in Code S as a strong Protoss. Every Code A champion and finalist has always had solid success in Code S. With players like Coca, Byun, Line and Puzzle, ZeNEX is finally starting to shape into a solid team. I think its because when he was shown in the GSTL he didn't do that great. (he ended up losing each game) Bomber and MMA gave us great games in the Team League.
wasnt bomber's first GSTL a win, followed by a loss to MVP after a massive supply lead?
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On July 19 2011 07:02 akaname wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:43 pdd wrote:On July 19 2011 06:35 akaname wrote:
did puzzle knock dong rae gu out of code b in the finals?
i love these up-and-coming players when they finally hit code a, was so great seeing Bomber own up. I remember in January people were saying "wait until you see Bomber and Puzzle, they're code s material".
who else have we got incoming (dong rae gu or sage next?) Nope. That was oGsHero who knocked him out. thanks. yeah, sorry QTIP i am overhyping sage there probably. just wonder who really is next up... tbf sage did all kill, i think seed just won a couple with funky strats (i loved that guy!) but 1 GSTL isn't enough to be the next big thing. edit: the point is, those in the know were hyping bomber and puzzle, rather than fools like me seeing 4 games and making huge assumptions. i want those in the know to tell me who is up next
You're not a fool at all man. My jaw was on the floor during Sage and Seed's games as well... they showed some fantastic play. Unfortunately the sample size is small, but that doesn't mean they won't break out in individual tournaments as well. :D
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Congrats Puzzle! Glad to see the talent pool in code S rising. I think you'll be an excellent addition. Thanks for the 5 liquibet points :D
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Also, I expect Puzzle to do really well in Code S. Has anyone noticed that every Code A champion has gone on to do reasonably well in code S? Top, Losira, Bomber... Puzzle! The first 3 have now all made the top 8 in at least 1 tournament, and I wouldnt be surprised to see losira and bomber in the top 4 this GSL. Top got top 4 in the ST. Code A winners are legit
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On July 19 2011 07:09 QTIP. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 07:02 akaname wrote:On July 19 2011 06:43 pdd wrote:On July 19 2011 06:35 akaname wrote:
did puzzle knock dong rae gu out of code b in the finals?
i love these up-and-coming players when they finally hit code a, was so great seeing Bomber own up. I remember in January people were saying "wait until you see Bomber and Puzzle, they're code s material".
who else have we got incoming (dong rae gu or sage next?) Nope. That was oGsHero who knocked him out. thanks. yeah, sorry QTIP i am overhyping sage there probably. just wonder who really is next up... tbf sage did all kill, i think seed just won a couple with funky strats (i loved that guy!) but 1 GSTL isn't enough to be the next big thing. edit: the point is, those in the know were hyping bomber and puzzle, rather than fools like me seeing 4 games and making huge assumptions. i want those in the know to tell me who is up next You're not a fool at all man. My jaw was on the floor during Sage and Seed's games as well... they showed some fantastic play. Unfortunately the sample size is small, but that doesn't mean they won't break out in individual tournaments as well. :D
the thing that impressed me about sage was that he was a knowledge-based player, scouted so well to anticipate what was coming up. that should you'd hope translate well into consistency. Seed was perhaps more gimmicky if i recall. I still always check code b to see if he made it through though. Good luck to both of them!
being greedy for great protoss players though, i should be happy with Puzzle, Huk, MC, trickster, alicia and killer! edit: and tassadar ofc!
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Congrats to Puzzle, after that interview I really look upon him as a really deticated player, plus I always like other protoss players who dislike 4 gate and the huge amount of coin flipping that goes into PvP. I'll definitly have to go back and watch his games against MMA and I am already excited to see his group in next months code s.
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What I get from that interview about PvP is that not 4gating is a mutual agreement to both tech to something that may or may not hard counter something else. 4gate is definitely not dead as shown in those games.
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I'm reaaally high on Puzzle right now, and I don't see him being anything less than the best protoss behind MC. He looks solid in all matchups, and there are times where you get the "holy shit" micro moments from him.
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Puzzle observer blinked his way up Tassadar's ramp, and into my heart.
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On July 19 2011 07:05 akaname wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:55 skrzmark wrote:On July 19 2011 06:52 Meteora.GB wrote:
Puzzle has always been hyped up but he was always back in the seat compare to the hype MMA and Bomber were getting. Its nice to see him in Code S as a strong Protoss. Every Code A champion and finalist has always had solid success in Code S. With players like Coca, Byun, Line and Puzzle, ZeNEX is finally starting to shape into a solid team. I think its because when he was shown in the GSTL he didn't do that great. (he ended up losing each game) Bomber and MMA gave us great games in the Team League. wasnt bomber's first GSTL a win, followed by a loss to MVP after a massive supply lead?
Notice how he said "great" games, which probably implies entertaining. Bomber vs. Losira was the legendary match where Losira danced his zerglings instead of finishing off the tech lab, and lost as a subsequent result. Bomber vs. MVP was also epic, where MVP came from 70 supply down to win. Two of the most entertaining games in GSTL history, imo.
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On July 19 2011 07:05 akaname wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:55 skrzmark wrote:On July 19 2011 06:52 Meteora.GB wrote:
Puzzle has always been hyped up but he was always back in the seat compare to the hype MMA and Bomber were getting. Its nice to see him in Code S as a strong Protoss. Every Code A champion and finalist has always had solid success in Code S. With players like Coca, Byun, Line and Puzzle, ZeNEX is finally starting to shape into a solid team. I think its because when he was shown in the GSTL he didn't do that great. (he ended up losing each game) Bomber and MMA gave us great games in the Team League. wasnt bomber's first GSTL a win, followed by a loss to MVP after a massive supply lead?
Yeah but who didn't enjoy the Bomber Losira series of dancing? And the MVP come back was ownage and when MVP was unstoppable.
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On July 19 2011 07:35 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 07:05 akaname wrote:On July 19 2011 06:55 skrzmark wrote:On July 19 2011 06:52 Meteora.GB wrote:
Puzzle has always been hyped up but he was always back in the seat compare to the hype MMA and Bomber were getting. Its nice to see him in Code S as a strong Protoss. Every Code A champion and finalist has always had solid success in Code S. With players like Coca, Byun, Line and Puzzle, ZeNEX is finally starting to shape into a solid team. I think its because when he was shown in the GSTL he didn't do that great. (he ended up losing each game) Bomber and MMA gave us great games in the Team League. wasnt bomber's first GSTL a win, followed by a loss to MVP after a massive supply lead? Notice how he said "great" games, which probably implies entertaining. Bomber vs. Losira was the legendary match where Losira danced his zerglings instead of finishing off the tech lab, and lost as a subsequent result. Bomber vs. MVP was also epic, where MVP came from 70 supply down to win. Two of the most entertaining games in GSTL history, imo.
ahhh la danse macabre... oh wow i forgot that was bomber Losira did that against
i think those finals overall were the most entertaining starcraft games i've ever seen. i'd still say letting MVP come back so hard, while entertaining, was not a good omen for being a top, top player. turns out i'd be wrong
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Thank Phosgene for translating the GSL interviews That looks like a LOT of work, but let it be known that I definitely enjoyed reading them.
Also Protoss fighting!
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On July 19 2011 07:34 akaname wrote:
Puzzle observer blinked his way up Tassadar's ramp, and into my heart.
Haha, yeah. He also appears to have a wicked work ethic as evidenced by his responses to the interview, so hopefully he'll have a good run at code S.
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Yeah I don't think Puzzle will get out of Code S anytime soon.
It hurts when you have to think so much about the matchup.
Indeed it does Puzzle.
I think NSHoSeo protosses are definitely at a different level than most other protosses.
Both Puzzle and MC have said this and that's saying quite a lot. I wonder who else NSH has on their protoss line up because San, Tassadar and Sage have proved to be quite great players. (Vanvanth doesn't count)
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Glad I didn't stay up to watch the finals, but aside from really boring pvp Puzzle deserves to be in Code S the kid if a beast and wouldn't be surprised to see him going deep next season.
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He hates 4-gate as well
I now like him a lot
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Please, please, please let Puzzle be a strong #2 protoss behind MC. We have a litany of strong Korean terrans and a couple of very strong #2 zergs in DRG and Losira, but no protoss has taken up the mantle as a contender to MC for #1 protoss. I hope Puzzle lives up to his reputation as the protoss Bomber.
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