• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:04
CEST 06:04
KST 13:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202611Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released Fantasy returning? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion GG Lan Fest Sofia, Bulgaria [this November]
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7822 users

Players You Think Are Underrated - Page 29

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 87 Next
Greyjoy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada29 Posts
July 18 2011 18:05 GMT
#561
On July 19 2011 01:20 Diks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 14:44 LwReisen wrote:
How about....

CombatEX??? :D :D


Sadly, I think you're right...


You're thinking of underhated.
We do not sow
Chinchillin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States259 Posts
July 18 2011 18:06 GMT
#562
On July 19 2011 03:00 hmunkey wrote:
Most of the top Chinese players and Code A/B guys in Korea. It's fun to say non-Koreans are underrated but by comparison they really aren't at all. Xiaot, Sage, etc. could easily beat any player in NA/EU but they don't have nearly the same recognition. For example, Destiny pulls 5k stream viewers easily but he can't even get past round 1 of the open bracket at MLG (which is by far easier than GSL).


Honestly, why does he pull 4.5k viewers every day? It's the biggest mindfuck in the Starcraft Universe
Leenocktopus! InNoVation!
Mentor
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany219 Posts
July 18 2011 18:09 GMT
#563
Leenock was kind of off the radar until the recent Code A. I always thought he was a fantastic player ever since the epic series against Clide in the 2nd or 3rd Open GSL last year. But every GSL he played basically the strongest players right in the beginning rounds and slowly dropped off.
I hope he stays sharp and has some better bracket luck in the future.
"Fame is like salty water, no last sip after the first, and before you drown you'll be dying of thirst." -Prezident-
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
July 18 2011 18:10 GMT
#564
On July 19 2011 03:06 Chinchillin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 03:00 hmunkey wrote:
Most of the top Chinese players and Code A/B guys in Korea. It's fun to say non-Koreans are underrated but by comparison they really aren't at all. Xiaot, Sage, etc. could easily beat any player in NA/EU but they don't have nearly the same recognition. For example, Destiny pulls 5k stream viewers easily but he can't even get past round 1 of the open bracket at MLG (which is by far easier than GSL).


Honestly, why does he pull 4.5k viewers every day? It's the biggest mindfuck in the Starcraft Universe


He is very entertaining, I suppose. I don't watch his stream, but that what I can infer based on what I've heard.

The Chinese progamers are definitely underrated though (to say it again). XiaoT, for example, is monstrously good but few have heard of him. Also, I didn't mean blackcitadel--it was supermanSG or something of the like. He's a Korean/NA GM who often plays S/A players and wins.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Zechs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom321 Posts
July 18 2011 18:12 GMT
#565
Well, anyone who followed WC3, like... at all, knows XiaoT. He also did really well in Stars War, so it's hard to call him underrated imo. I can't wait till we start to see Chinese players in more international events - i would love to see a real competitor to Korea come up and China is the only likely country. In the latter years of WC3 they overtook the Koreans except for a handful.
Esports and stuff: zechleton.tumblr.com
Deezer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada73 Posts
July 18 2011 20:12 GMT
#566
desrow for sure
RatZ GaminG Leader
shifty
Profile Joined July 2010
United States280 Posts
July 18 2011 20:15 GMT
#567
On July 19 2011 05:12 Deezer wrote:
desrow for sure

I think deezer for sure guys
Western Tribe http://www.wtr1be.com
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
July 18 2011 20:16 GMT
#568
On July 19 2011 05:12 Deezer wrote:
desrow for sure


He's no rat though
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
July 18 2011 21:25 GMT
#569
Nerchio ofc, Grubby, Moon, Naugrim
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
July 18 2011 22:17 GMT
#570
IMYoda

But "underrated" probably isn't a good description of any IM player, anyone would say they would be strong, I just think he's really special atm.

ZenexPuzzle, but now he defo couldn't be called underrated, doing so well in code A. I was a big fan of his from the start of this season however.

But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
isospeedrix
Profile Joined November 2010
United States215 Posts
July 18 2011 22:21 GMT
#571
Zenex Puzzle will be the 2nd best protoss after MC.
http://www.youtube.com/isospeedrix
DnX
Profile Joined July 2011
United States20 Posts
July 18 2011 22:24 GMT
#572
1. Socke - Had many top finishes
2. Nerchio - Has not played in big LANs
3. Goody - Amazing T but mocked by some because of his APM
4. HayprO - Very interesting Z but not performing as well in big LANs
5. Ret - Arguably one of the best Zergs in north america


QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
July 18 2011 22:27 GMT
#573
On July 19 2011 07:24 DnX wrote:
1. Socke - Had many top finishes
2. Nerchio - Has not played in big LANs
3. Goody - Amazing T but mocked by some because of his APM
4. HayprO - Very interesting Z but not performing as well in big LANs
5. Ret - Arguably one of the best Zergs in north america




A couple of points.

Goody gets ridiculed for his strategy as well as his APM/macro mechanics.

Ret is Dutch and plays in Europe.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 22:28:07
July 18 2011 22:27 GMT
#574
On July 19 2011 07:24 DnX wrote:
1. Socke - Had many top finishes
2. Nerchio - Has not played in big LANs
3. Goody - Amazing T but mocked by some because of his APM
4. HayprO - Very interesting Z but not performing as well in big LANs
5. Ret - Arguably one of the best Zergs in north america




ninja'd :[
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
July 18 2011 22:30 GMT
#575
ST_Rainbow. Love that guy, and he's awesome. He just chokes and sometimes gets really unlucky. I love watching his Stream tho.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 22:36:26
July 18 2011 22:32 GMT
#576
Gretorp and cArn.
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal
Xtal
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Haiti385 Posts
July 18 2011 22:36 GMT
#577
Leenock
Have you ever heard the story, about the Zergling and the Probe? The Probe didn't make it across the creep.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
July 18 2011 22:36 GMT
#578
ONEBubbles

Creative player that catches a lot of pro's off guard. He's going to make it deep into a major tournament one of these days.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 12:06:38
July 19 2011 12:06 GMT
#579
On July 19 2011 07:30 MVega wrote:
ST_Rainbow. Love that guy, and he's awesome. He just chokes and sometimes gets really unlucky. I love watching his Stream tho.


HOT GF too ! She was talking to his stream chat yesterday.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 19 2011 12:07 GMT
#580
aTn|Delphi
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 87 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
08:00
QMC Community Tournament 1
Liquipedia
OSC
07:15
Masters Cup #151 Group C
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 197
ProTech149
FoxeR 55
Nina 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2812
Shuttle 1278
Dewaltoss 80
Noble 11
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm197
Counter-Strike
taco 367
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox657
Other Games
summit1g7868
WinterStarcraft464
C9.Mang0299
ViBE125
Sick31
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 28
• StrangeGG 22
• Letter147
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo772
• Stunt271
Other Games
• Shiphtur403
Upcoming Events
OSC
18h 56m
Big Brain Bouts
1d 5h
Rex vs INexorable
GgMaChine vs HeRoMaRinE
Reynor vs herO
AI Arena Tournament
1d 12h
BSL: Ladder Tournament
1d 14h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.