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FluXen
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada210 Posts
July 18 2011 02:25 GMT
#461
Definatly Baz is underrated.
"Rise and Rise Again till Lamb become Lion"-Robin Hood
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
July 18 2011 02:27 GMT
#462
On July 18 2011 11:05 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 11:03 00Visor wrote:
On July 18 2011 09:39 CookieMaker wrote:
I can't believe i don't see Bomber;s name being mentioned more, I think he's absolutely World #1 Terran right now and would make finals in every single foreigner tournament he chose to enter. I am very, very sad that we won't see him at MLG Anaheim, but he's going to prove my point by winning GSL instead (go Huk!).


I tought about mentioning him.
Many consider him Top10-15 overall. But IMO he is Top3 (with MVP and Nestea). He just hadnt posted a big win.
He`s been #1 in ELO for a long time and his record is amazing. (51-16 and he only lost Bo3 against Nestea and Cezanne)


How do you put MVP above MC at this point? I don't get why people exclude MC from top 3, he is undeniably best protoss and is the most successful player of all time.


The problem with comparing MC with other GSL players is that MC travels A LOT and we see more of him. If he did not travel, people would consider him in a seriously severe slump since GSL WC which was the one MVP won.

In terms of GSL alone, MVP has done noticeably better than anyone still based on GSL ranking points (subject to change of course after this tournament).
Gameplay > Personality
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
July 18 2011 02:27 GMT
#463
On July 18 2011 00:39 Drey wrote:
ST_Rainbow, the guy won GSL and hes barely breaking 1k viewers. GM in Korea ..


You must be a troll or an idiot.

Rainbow never won GSL, he lost to Fruitdealer in Open Season1.

He is also very bad at SC2, and I doubt his skill level will ever be where it once was. Especially with the ID HopeTorture.

As for underrated players, NSHeoSeo_Sage (obviously since he has played what? once televised?), IMYongHwa (don't hear enough people talking about him these days, this dude is a serious baller), and obviously, my boy, vVvNGry.

vVvNGry is a straight nerd baller gosu-a-holic. This dude is so beastly your eyes may bleed when watching him play. Also - he's really good at flip cup!

To the vVv crew - play NGry more!!!
Got that.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 18 2011 02:28 GMT
#464
On July 18 2011 11:27 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 11:05 Olinim wrote:
On July 18 2011 11:03 00Visor wrote:
On July 18 2011 09:39 CookieMaker wrote:
I can't believe i don't see Bomber;s name being mentioned more, I think he's absolutely World #1 Terran right now and would make finals in every single foreigner tournament he chose to enter. I am very, very sad that we won't see him at MLG Anaheim, but he's going to prove my point by winning GSL instead (go Huk!).


I tought about mentioning him.
Many consider him Top10-15 overall. But IMO he is Top3 (with MVP and Nestea). He just hadnt posted a big win.
He`s been #1 in ELO for a long time and his record is amazing. (51-16 and he only lost Bo3 against Nestea and Cezanne)


How do you put MVP above MC at this point? I don't get why people exclude MC from top 3, he is undeniably best protoss and is the most successful player of all time.


The problem with comparing MC with other GSL players is that MC travels A LOT and we see more of him. If he did not travel, people would consider him in a seriously severe slump since GSL WC which was the one MVP won.

In terms of GSL alone, MVP has done noticeably better than anyone still based on GSL ranking points (subject to change of course after this tournament).

MC's and nesteas 1st GSL win don't count for ranking point though.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 02:33:52
July 18 2011 02:28 GMT
#465
On July 18 2011 11:17 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 11:05 Olinim wrote:
On July 18 2011 11:03 00Visor wrote:
On July 18 2011 09:39 CookieMaker wrote:
I can't believe i don't see Bomber;s name being mentioned more, I think he's absolutely World #1 Terran right now and would make finals in every single foreigner tournament he chose to enter. I am very, very sad that we won't see him at MLG Anaheim, but he's going to prove my point by winning GSL instead (go Huk!).


I tought about mentioning him.
Many consider him Top10-15 overall. But IMO he is Top3 (with MVP and Nestea). He just hadnt posted a big win.
He`s been #1 in ELO for a long time and his record is amazing. (51-16 and he only lost Bo3 against Nestea and Cezanne)


How do you put MVP above MC at this point? I don't get why people exclude MC from top 3, he is undeniably best protoss and is the most successful player of all time.

I love MC and he is the best protoss and most successful player.
Both MC and MVP were struggling a bit lately. I just feel MVP is so solid all around and many other Korean pros mention him as the best player. He gets the slight edge over MC.


Something a lot of people also miss is that mvp was the most dominating player out of all the gsl winners. Dominating as in he was near invincible for his gsl win. Highest peak elo in the game backs that up. Nestea is far more consistent, but when you put nestea's peak and mvp's peak and hell even mc's peak together, mvp was by far more dominating and scarier.

Now if only he could return to the player he was in january, NO ONE would be taking games off the guy. (cept for nestea of course, the guy went 1-3 against mvp during his fire streak)
The Notorious Winkles
baby elephant
Profile Joined April 2011
273 Posts
July 18 2011 02:31 GMT
#466
Ryung gets my vote.
Kuub
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada48 Posts
July 18 2011 02:32 GMT
#467
NA- DDE
Eu- Stephano
KR- Hack
Panthae
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada205 Posts
July 18 2011 02:35 GMT
#468
Socke... Def underrated.
For Aïur?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 18 2011 02:35 GMT
#469
The idea that MC would be considered slumping if he didn't travel a lot is pretty hard to prove, because the very fact that he travels a lot means that sometimes he's really out of practice/jetlagged, and underperforms. Perhaps if he didn't travel a lot, people wouldn't even be saying that he'd be "considered in a slump if he didn't travel" because he would be doing better to begin with. Just a theory of mine, but a perfectly reasonable one.

Anyway, I feel like Ryung and Moon are some of the more underrated players at the moment. Moon has shown incredibly consistent results in international tournaments that have top Koreans in them. Ryung is pretty much the most underrated player at the moment IMO. He's always very solid and pretty consistent - yet he's underrated by so many people. It especially stood out to me that the key players for SlayerS were listed as BoxeR, MMA, and Alicia, when it really should be Ryung, MMA, and Alicia. BoxeR is certainly a key figure, but a key player? Ryung deserves that title more IMO.
Hiivankins
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland31 Posts
July 18 2011 02:41 GMT
#470
Fuzer...
:|
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
July 18 2011 02:45 GMT
#471
SupermanSG/NagaSeaWitch/Truism is my pick. Has an unfeatured stream that barely breaks 30-50 viewers on a good day, but plays extremely well. Yesterday during a practise session with some members of VP he tore apart 3 of their members in several games. I think he has recently joined the Korean team XPN but I'm not 100% sure on that. Dont' really see him playing any serius games.
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Scriptix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States145 Posts
July 18 2011 02:47 GMT
#472
coLRyan
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
July 18 2011 02:48 GMT
#473
SlayerS Dragon for sure. He is a beast. It's a shame he isn't in slayers house/gstl due to work stuff. Hopefully he gets to show his skills soon. Played such sick games vs nestea in GSL season 1.
Alisera
Profile Joined June 2011
United States71 Posts
July 18 2011 02:49 GMT
#474
ThisisJimmy!
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 18 2011 02:50 GMT
#475
On July 18 2011 11:27 Chronald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 00:39 Drey wrote:
ST_Rainbow, the guy won GSL and hes barely breaking 1k viewers. GM in Korea ..


You must be a troll or an idiot.

Rainbow never won GSL, he lost to Fruitdealer in Open Season1.

He is also very bad at SC2, and I doubt his skill level will ever be where it once was. Especially with the ID HopeTorture.

As for underrated players, NSHeoSeo_Sage (obviously since he has played what? once televised?), IMYongHwa (don't hear enough people talking about him these days, this dude is a serious baller), and obviously, my boy, vVvNGry.

vVvNGry is a straight nerd baller gosu-a-holic. This dude is so beastly your eyes may bleed when watching him play. Also - he's really good at flip cup!

To the vVv crew - play NGry more!!!


Rainbow would have won if FD never made it to the finals, which he never would have if not for the ulra bug :3
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 18 2011 03:06 GMT
#476
When I see names like Bomber, sC, DRG, Sage, MVP and Huk come up I wonder if people know what underrated actually means. There are more that I could list, but these were the ones that stuck out to me.

I don't think theSTC can be called underrated either. He was, but then everyone jumped on the bandwagon so half the posts in this thread are people saying he is underrated. If everyone thinks a player is under rated I don't think they can really be that underrated.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 18 2011 03:08 GMT
#477
After reading many pages my vote is still on Nestea.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
July 18 2011 03:18 GMT
#478
I swear to god at least 3/4ths the people that posted in this thread have no idea what underrated means. It's also extremely hard to call koreans underrated since the only thing we see of them is GSL/GSTL. We may as well call every korean underrated since there's so many gosus that we've just never seen before.

anyway I have no idea who's underrated in NA/EU o.o
@KawaiiRiceLighT
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 18 2011 03:31 GMT
#479
There is unrated (unknown)
overrated (popular just because)
rated (acknowledged as present)
underrated (not given the credit that he deserves)

for that I vote Nestea.

His wins are praised, but no one gets excited by his standard play.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
July 18 2011 03:33 GMT
#480
Morrow
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
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