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Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 23:00:51
July 16 2011 23:00 GMT
#1761
On July 17 2011 07:55 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:54 Whiteman103 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:53 Sqq wrote:
sick read by Negreanu


Negreanu and Alan Cunningham have amazing reads


I'v eseen Negreanu do this before, and every time I'm as dumb founded as the last


yea same. if you haven't seen some of Alan's reads there prob on Youtube.
wzzit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States201 Posts
July 16 2011 23:01 GMT
#1762
On July 17 2011 07:57 ste0731 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:56 wzzit wrote:
Can someone explain what Negreanu's read was? I missed out on it.


10 high board, negraunu bets out, frinx minbets, DN calls, Dn checks turn, Frinx puts DN allin on turn. DN says I think you have JJ, (he actually had QQ so basically same hand) . Pretty standard by the betting but quite good


Wow... that is impressive.

Why did Negreanu call the re-raise at the flop with just AK? It looks like he completely missed the flop. Was he setting up for a bluff? It doesn't look like he had the chips to go for one, though.

Was he trying to call down McNiff's potential bluff?
ste0731
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom435 Posts
July 16 2011 23:02 GMT
#1763
On July 17 2011 08:01 wzzit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:57 ste0731 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:56 wzzit wrote:
Can someone explain what Negreanu's read was? I missed out on it.


10 high board, negraunu bets out, frinx minbets, DN calls, Dn checks turn, Frinx puts DN allin on turn. DN says I think you have JJ, (he actually had QQ so basically same hand) . Pretty standard by the betting but quite good


Wow... that is impressive.

Why did Negreanu call the re-raise at the flop with just AK? It looks like he completely missed the flop. Was he setting up for a bluff? It doesn't look like he had the chips to go for one, though.

Was he trying to call down McNiff's potential bluff?


Minbet, he's getting 4 to 1 to call and hit an A or K and AK may even be ahead at this point, knowing DN is short and a minbet could be very weak to force a cbet to fold.
KiZoGe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States19 Posts
July 16 2011 23:03 GMT
#1764
Waiting to be confirmed on KiWiKaKis chip stack....870k has not been confirmed by anyone at the event.


http://www.twitch.tv/atlandsend for coverage of the WSOP Live aswell as on screen overlay of KiWiKaKi's last known CONFIRMED chip stack.
wzzit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States201 Posts
July 16 2011 23:03 GMT
#1765
On July 17 2011 08:02 ste0731 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 08:01 wzzit wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:57 ste0731 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:56 wzzit wrote:
Can someone explain what Negreanu's read was? I missed out on it.


10 high board, negraunu bets out, frinx minbets, DN calls, Dn checks turn, Frinx puts DN allin on turn. DN says I think you have JJ, (he actually had QQ so basically same hand) . Pretty standard by the betting but quite good


Wow... that is impressive.

Why did Negreanu call the re-raise at the flop with just AK? It looks like he completely missed the flop. Was he setting up for a bluff? It doesn't look like he had the chips to go for one, though.

Was he trying to call down McNiff's potential bluff?


Minbet, he's getting 4 to 1 to call and hit an A or K and AK may even be ahead at this point, knowing DN is short and a minbet could be very weak to force a cbet to fold.


Ah, that makes sense. What a clever player.
.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
July 16 2011 23:04 GMT
#1766
On July 17 2011 08:01 wzzit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:57 ste0731 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:56 wzzit wrote:
Can someone explain what Negreanu's read was? I missed out on it.


10 high board, negraunu bets out, frinx minbets, DN calls, Dn checks turn, Frinx puts DN allin on turn. DN says I think you have JJ, (he actually had QQ so basically same hand) . Pretty standard by the betting but quite good


Wow... that is impressive.

Why did Negreanu call the re-raise at the flop with just AK? It looks like he completely missed the flop. Was he setting up for a bluff? It doesn't look like he had the chips to go for one, though.

Was he trying to call down McNiff's potential bluff?


I guess so, and they said McNiff is an aggressive player so it was possible that Daniel actually had the best hand on the flop and even if he didn't he had outs, my take on it.
"Jupiters c*ck!" - Quintus Lentulus Batiatus
Ethereal_Starcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
United States78 Posts
July 16 2011 23:04 GMT
#1767
O.O man i can play and understand poker, but theres something about talking about it/reading about the hands that gets me confused.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 23:05:56
July 16 2011 23:04 GMT
#1768
On July 17 2011 08:01 wzzit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:57 ste0731 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:56 wzzit wrote:
Can someone explain what Negreanu's read was? I missed out on it.


10 high board, negraunu bets out, frinx minbets, DN calls, Dn checks turn, Frinx puts DN allin on turn. DN says I think you have JJ, (he actually had QQ so basically same hand) . Pretty standard by the betting but quite good


Wow... that is impressive.

Why did Negreanu call the re-raise at the flop with just AK? It looks like he completely missed the flop. Was he setting up for a bluff? It doesn't look like he had the chips to go for one, though.

Was he trying to call down McNiff's potential bluff?


It was a min raise so he were getting the odds to call if he thought the other guy had jj and wouldnt fold if a or k hit. Also a chance he were bluffing.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
July 16 2011 23:06 GMT
#1769
I texted kiwi to know his chipstack he hasn't replied yet, I'll post as soon as i know
Legend7777
Profile Joined April 2011
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 23:08:35
July 16 2011 23:06 GMT
#1770
The only thing I can see for sure is the eliminations on the results tab...Those are getting updated pretty quickly with new names.

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/results.asp?grid=821&tid=11497&dayof=2059

The chip count has 251 people on it, but the eliminations have been updated to place #230.

Edit: had 251, 232 now. The results seem to be updating faster though
I am Legend?
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
July 16 2011 23:07 GMT
#1771
he's at 600k
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42383 Posts
July 16 2011 23:08 GMT
#1772
On July 17 2011 08:07 ReignFayth wrote:
he's at 600k


Thank you sir.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
July 16 2011 23:08 GMT
#1773
On July 17 2011 08:07 ReignFayth wrote:
he's at 600k


Thank you, nice with this kind of inside information!
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
tofubeans
Profile Joined January 2011
United States794 Posts
July 16 2011 23:08 GMT
#1774
On July 17 2011 08:07 ReignFayth wrote:
he's at 600k

tyty
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
July 16 2011 23:09 GMT
#1775
On July 17 2011 08:01 wzzit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:57 ste0731 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:56 wzzit wrote:
Can someone explain what Negreanu's read was? I missed out on it.


10 high board, negraunu bets out, frinx minbets, DN calls, Dn checks turn, Frinx puts DN allin on turn. DN says I think you have JJ, (he actually had QQ so basically same hand) . Pretty standard by the betting but quite good


Wow... that is impressive.

Why did Negreanu call the re-raise at the flop with just AK? It looks like he completely missed the flop. Was he setting up for a bluff? It doesn't look like he had the chips to go for one, though.

Was he trying to call down McNiff's potential bluff?


What's more impressive, to me, than Negreanu's reads, are how bad the commentators/analysts are without knowing what the cards are. DN is sitting on a small stack, raises pre-flop, then the dumbasses start speculating that he may have a hand "like 5/8"..wtf... he was clearly sitting on a small/middle pair or A10+, unless he had completely lost his mind..
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3131 Posts
July 16 2011 23:11 GMT
#1776
Elder plays so many hands
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
July 16 2011 23:13 GMT
#1777
On July 17 2011 08:07 ReignFayth wrote:
he's at 600k


Thanks for that. Kiwi fighting! Hopefully he wins. Yesterday when I left the stream he was down at 210k or something.
Zath.erin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada429 Posts
July 16 2011 23:15 GMT
#1778
Does anyone know how many people are left in the main event?
I put my pants on just like the rest of you - one leg at a time. Except once my pants are on, i make gold records!
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
July 16 2011 23:17 GMT
#1779
how much guaranteed money has kiwikaki won so far?
Don't mind me
ste0731
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom435 Posts
July 16 2011 23:17 GMT
#1780
On July 17 2011 08:15 Zath.erin wrote:
Does anyone know how many people are left in the main event?


about 230
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