EPTDidn't realise this was the LR thread. Maybe you should post about the bitching there.
Single elimination or double elimination? - Page 2
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IceSlipper
Australia1028 Posts
Didn't realise this was the LR thread. Maybe you should post about the bitching there. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
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sgt_cr
Costa Rica95 Posts
Im not sure it looks like a no brainer 16players in 3 days, cant play a double elimination? thats just freaking weird. IF you are not going to make a double elimination bc its harder to make schedules due to the 2 brackets and lack of computers for streaming at least do it bo5, make the players actually worth coming and have a shot to play more than just 2-3 games :S | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
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Iamyournoob
Germany595 Posts
With that being said, I vote for single elim. However I feel that this format should be designed in a better way than it is at the NASL: Bo5 instead of Bo3 and loser's map choice. | ||
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
At the end of the day, it was announced that it was going to be played like this, it was put into the rules. Every player signed the contract saying it was single elimination and every player had to show their top notch play from here on out otherwise they'll go home packing. These were the format, rules and guidelines pre-set and no debates were on about them when they were set. You really need to stop complaining about every single thing that doesn't go right for your favourite player. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9056 Posts
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Earll
Norway847 Posts
As a small sidenote , I might be remembering incorrectly, but did not MLG at first get tons of flak because of having a losers bracket format ? (or was that maybe only because of the extended series?) | ||
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eXNewB
Canada291 Posts
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
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Bengui
Canada775 Posts
On July 09 2011 17:51 Earll wrote:To me it does not really matter that much, assuming same amount of games are played. (so Single Elimination would obviously have to have a larger set of Best of X's, since obviously in the time they are using casting /playing losers brackets can also be used just casting more of the singel elimination.) As a small sidenote , I might be remembering incorrectly, but did not MLG at first get tons of flak because of having a losers bracket format ? (or was that maybe only because of the extended series?) It was, and still is, because of the extended series. IMO single elimination is good enough when the players are already seeded based on the results of prior play, but tournaments that have no form of group stages and go directly in brackets format should be double elimination. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
it just seems a waste for everybody to setup and fly over just so you can lose in two minutes. if you're gonna argue drama did you really get hyped when ret lose to puma? it was more like wtf just happened and i felt sorta cheated. also why have tastosis, day9 if you're gonna cast so few games(much less ones THEY'RE casting). | ||
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Dulkan
Germany24 Posts
On July 09 2011 17:25 windsupernova wrote: Single elimination with BO5 or BO7. Extended series are a terrible terrible thing.And I don't really want more games for the sake of more games double elimination doesn't mean you have to use the horrible extended series rule, don't worry, that's unique to MLG | ||
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RealRook
Czech Republic54 Posts
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
On July 09 2011 16:20 IceSlipper wrote: The method i like best is making the loser bracket player win the series twice.. Seems fair to me that everyone else gets a second chance, why shouldnt the winner bracket finalist? Never the less, double elimination, either way.. Those are the normal rules for double elim. A problem comes when the winner finalist wins in 2 matches, it's a huge anticlimax to the entire tournament. An alternative is to make the finals BO5, but to make it fair you still need the double elim, and then risk having 10 games. I kinda liked the Homestory cup format. It was a compromise between WB finalist having the advantage and not having to play two separate series. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
 I really dislike any form of double elimination in Starcraft. Single elimination tournaments are pretty much a tradition, and all Korean competitions are single elimination. If you lose a BO5, there's no reason at all for you to stay in the tournament in any way. The real awful thing about double elimination are all these additional rules and structure - whether it's extended series, guys in LB having to win 2 series, a fixed game advantage, or this some other complex structure that needs a flowchart diagram to be explained. All of that is just horrible in my opinion. Every "grand" finals I've seen in double elimination tournaments was an underwhelming, pointless series in which the WB finalist has absurd advantage and shouldn't lose unless he's drunk or something. Then again, I guess there's a chance for that to happen because you may as well celebrate (thus get drunk) after winning the WB finals.  | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
TL likes double elimination now? | ||
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Azzur
Australia6267 Posts
1) Single elimination bo5. In my opinion, if you lose a bo5 to a "weaker" player, you don't deserve to be in the tournament. 2) Double elimination bo3 with upper bracker winner 1-0 up in bo7 finals. | ||
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