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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 26 2011 23:27 GMT
#1301
Looking forward to the JD/Bisu/Fantasy/Jangbi announcement.. Better not be trolling us Slasher.
Jaedong.
sAKecOkE
Profile Joined May 2010
Ireland128 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 23:40:52
October 26 2011 23:40 GMT
#1302
Not finding the stream on onemoregame, link anyone plx :x ?

P.S. But Destiny Catz and Sheth practicing ZvT with major is a pretty good way to pass the time looking for it <3
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
October 26 2011 23:43 GMT
#1303
next year MLG should get at least 2 events on the west coast

1 in Socal
1 in Norcal
maybe 1 in Seattle too
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
October 26 2011 23:45 GMT
#1304
Lol, MMA delaying the first game to all-in.
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naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
October 26 2011 23:45 GMT
#1305
On October 22 2011 17:21 Scribble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 17:17 Chicane wrote:
On October 22 2011 17:08 Go1den wrote:
On October 22 2011 17:00 Chicane wrote:
On October 22 2011 16:56 Go1den wrote:
On October 22 2011 16:51 Scribble wrote:
On October 22 2011 16:39 Go1den wrote:
I think this show is really unprofessional and highlights the community at its worst. I went from watching the GSL finals, one of the proudest moments in eSports to date, with a large appreciative crowd and a grateful set of casters and players, to a collection of drunk men dropping f-bombs in their stupors. It's pretty shameful, especially when djWheat spends an enormous amount of time arguing that he isn't "ruining" eSports, to see his involvement in such a disgusting excuse of a show. Slasher has never in my opinion had anything worth listening to, and he just continues to escape on the "I'm drunk and talking the loudest, so I must be right and everyone just hates me" train.

At a time when SC2 is on the verge of becoming a widely broadcast, and potentially even televised event, it is just tremendously upsetting to see these sad demonstrations of behavior are leading the way. You're all grown men on Live on Three, maybe it's time you start acting like it.


Speaking of highlighting the community at its worst...

You tuned into a 3am (12 pst) broadcast from a bar where 2 men were getting their heads shaved over a bet. Sorry they didn't deliver on maturity that nobody ever guaranteed to you. If the success of e-sports hinges upon these 3 men at this specific moment in time, then so be it. If the cost of e-sports succeeding is not being able to enjoy oneself, then I'm happy to see it 'fail.'

For somebody so apparently on the straight-and-narrow, somebody so mature, you certainly don't seem to understand that whether we're pillars of the community or simple fans, we're all people, and we all like to have a good time.

Nobody who isn't a caring and passionate wants to see e-sports succeed. So instead of being a jerkoff because they loosen up and have fun on an atypical friday BARCRAFT show, try to recognize that they are as human as you and I, and that Slasher being loud and drunk won't bring the institution of e-sports crashing down around us. If you can't enjoy it, fine. Don't tune in. You can bastardize them for ruining e-sports when you've done half as much for half as long as the folks on that stage.


So you're basically agreeing that they are behaving poorly, but you're fine with that because their past "deeds" permit them to behave like immature frat boys on a stream that has bigger implications outside of 3 people being drunk at a bar? Also, please don't call me a jerkoff for having basic moral standards.


I don't quite understand your point of view. Answer this question honestly. Do you think that the people who are saying "it is fine" would also be saying "it is fine" if they were to be swearing and getting drunk during a live MLG stream (let's say that MLG were the ones who decided to allow it). Do you really think that they would then also say it is fine? The answer is undoubtedly no. The point is, this was just a bar party that was being streamed for people who may be interested.

You have to separate the two. No one ever looks at how a sports player parties, and judges the entire sport based on those kind of actions. It is the same case here. Hell, we may as well go scrutinize the actions of every live streamer if it doesn't closely follow the rules of professionalism to maintain a good image (by your logic).


But not every live streamer is a community figurehead. djWheat goes out of his way to argue that he is an important contributor to the community, and it's clear that he has that role. All I'm saying is that when you put yourself in that position, you are subject to some basic conduct expectations. It's not the use of bad language that bothers me, or the drinking - it's that they felt that this drunk panel of "community leaders" deserved to be streamed at a time when they were acting beyond unprofessional (and they wonder why so many people tell them they are ruining eSports...).

As for your other comment, when Tiger Woods cheated on his wife, did that damage golf? Hell yes it did. You can't have iconic figures in your sport casting a bad image of themselves into the public eye and expecting them to take you seriously. If Starcraft is going to expand, it needs leaders who are positive role models. That is all.


I actually can't agree that it hurt golf. I don't know, maybe my mind works differently, but when I heard that Tiger Woods cheated on his wife, I thought "Wow that was a terrible thing for him to do" but I DID NOT think "Wow, so all golfers cheat on their wives, and the golf associations approve of it." Come on. You are REALLY stretching this argument now. I think you really have to stop worrying so much about "esports being hurt." It really is ridiculous when it is taken to this extent.

When Michael Vick was convicted for having dogs fight, people didn't then look on the NFL, they looked down on him as a person.

In any event, the main difference between Michael Vick, and also the example you brought up in Tiger Woods, is that both of them did things that are WRONG, while what the Lo3 crew did was "unprofessional." I don't want to go into this too much because I've pretty much already said it before as have others, but it comes down to it being an extra event they threw together for fun that is optional to watch.

I don't see the point in being so concerned about it "hurting esports" when there are people who behave like they do or worse in every sport, and people are fine with it, because once again they are capable of using their brains to say "oh look, this isn't a representation of the sport itself, this is just some friends getting together and arguing about the game" and hell, some people can even relate to that and have fun with it. If you can't, and in fact you don't enjoy it, then please just don't watch.


Personally, when I heard about Kobe sexually assaulting that woman, I immediately thought, "WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE NBA!? How could they do that!?"

And when Kanye West made a big scene when Taylor Swift was accepting an award? I blamed the music industry, fans, engineers, producers, staff, artists, instrument makers, caterers, etc. Pretty much everyone actually. These thing have tremendous ripple effects, y'know?


you blamed the NBA? so if you cheated on your girlfriend you would blame your parents also?
aepal
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 23:47:22
October 26 2011 23:46 GMT
#1306
Guys wtf!? I cant find the show!! Link up on TL stream please!

oh just go http://twitch.tv/ :D front page
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 00:23:07
October 27 2011 00:10 GMT
#1307
Slasher pulling a Zlasher.

He (Rich, not Slasher) found out the players were there (a few days after everyone on TL knew they'd be there) and he found out the players were at Blizzcon to see Blizzcon. HOLY SHIT!!!!!

KT getting new monitors was bigger news than this.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
October 27 2011 00:15 GMT
#1308
On October 27 2011 09:10 Jibba wrote:
Slasher pulling a Zlasher.

He found out the players were there (a few days after everyone on TL knew they'd be there) and he found out the players were at Blizzcon to see Blizzcon. HOLY SHIT!!!!!


Well at least we know that they weren't there for diablo3 or WoW
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 00:20:21
October 27 2011 00:19 GMT
#1309
What experience does Rich have in BW at all?

Jaedong has one of the lowest salaries of an S class player, because he got lowballed and had to take it, but his total earnings during his prime still would've eclipsed Nestea's 2010. I don't see how that's relevant.
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
October 27 2011 00:23 GMT
#1310
On October 27 2011 09:19 Jibba wrote:
What experience does Rich have in BW at all?

Jaedong has one of the lowest salaries of an S class player, because he got lowballed and had to take it, but his total earnings during his prime still would've eclipsed Nestea's 2010.


This is so strange.

This is a complete and utter non-story. But before that, we had some vague accusations that Nestea threw his final game versus Mvp. And Slasher follows it up with some pure speculation that there was a meeting between the three parties of Blizzard, Kespa and Gretech at BlizzCon, which there is absolutely no evidence for.

Three segments;

- Speculation about match throwing.
- Blowing what was Blizzard inviting VIPs BlizzCon immensely out of proportion.
- Speculation about a meeting that may or may not have happened.

It is all rather strange.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
October 27 2011 00:25 GMT
#1311
On LO3 Slasher is talking about an article that implies Blizzard, KeSPA, and Gretech had a meeting at BlizzCon. Is this the one?

http://fomos.co.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120896&db=issue
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 27 2011 00:28 GMT
#1312
On October 27 2011 09:23 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 09:19 Jibba wrote:
What experience does Rich have in BW at all?

Jaedong has one of the lowest salaries of an S class player, because he got lowballed and had to take it, but his total earnings during his prime still would've eclipsed Nestea's 2010.


This is so strange.

This is a complete and utter non-story. But before that, we had some vague accusations that Nestea threw his final game versus Mvp. And Slasher follows it up with some pure speculation that there was a meeting between the three parties of Blizzard, Kespa and Gretech at BlizzCon, which there is absolutely no evidence for.

Three segments;

- Speculation about match throwing.
- Blowing what was Blizzard inviting VIPs BlizzCon immensely out of proportion.
- Speculation about a meeting that may or may not have happened.

It is all rather strange.


Sounds like standard videogame journalism for me lol
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 00:32:01
October 27 2011 00:31 GMT
#1313
On October 27 2011 09:23 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 09:19 Jibba wrote:
What experience does Rich have in BW at all?

Jaedong has one of the lowest salaries of an S class player, because he got lowballed and had to take it, but his total earnings during his prime still would've eclipsed Nestea's 2010.


This is so strange.

This is a complete and utter non-story. But before that, we had some vague accusations that Nestea threw his final game versus Mvp. And Slasher follows it up with some pure speculation that there was a meeting between the three parties of Blizzard, Kespa and Gretech at BlizzCon, which there is absolutely no evidence for.

Three segments;

- Speculation about match throwing.
- Blowing what was Blizzard inviting VIPs BlizzCon immensely out of proportion.
- Speculation about a meeting that may or may not have happened.

It is all rather strange.

They are talking about things that people in the community were talking about.

There were lots of people claiming match throwing etc, so they discussed it and basically agreed that there was no match throwing going on and even if there was it would be impossible to know.

There was a big long thread with speculation on why the VIPs were invited. So now they have some confirmation about it was about, they never said it was exciting, just reporting some news.
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 27 2011 00:35 GMT
#1314
The desk thing is hilarious
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 27 2011 00:36 GMT
#1315
Heck even the TL write-up even addressed the prize-splitting issue. It's inevitable for people to speculate about it.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
October 27 2011 00:37 GMT
#1316
Stephano's a great player and all but he seems like a little douchebag in person.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 27 2011 00:41 GMT
#1317
Well, I don't know if they read this but Grubby placed 2nd in the IESF.

So that is his best placement, but no Koreans there.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
October 27 2011 00:45 GMT
#1318
Congrats on figuring out that the BW players came to watch Blizzcon and get a sense of the SC2 community. Great announcement, I applaud you
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
October 27 2011 01:05 GMT
#1319
Perfect ending right there
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
October 27 2011 02:00 GMT
#1320
I don't get the Slasher hate, I really don't. The visit was obviously SC related. But instead of internet typical rumor-mongering, he actually provided official confirmation. I know nowadays huffington post, wikipedia and reddit are the new hot shit. But nothing wrong with good old journalism, is there?

At least in both the whole LR and speculation threads no one of the know-it-alls has been able to cite a credible source. And now we have exactly that; nothing more, nothing less. And since Lo3 is a gateway for everything esports-related, it's a worthy news piece. It's not like he put up an announcement page, releasing hype videos. So give him a fucking break.

And this:

On October 27 2011 10:05 dizzy101 wrote:
Perfect ending right there
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