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Midgetman101
Profile Joined February 2011
United States825 Posts
June 21 2011 21:52 GMT
#641
On June 22 2011 06:23 DoA wrote:
Doa's Team

Main Team
2 (Z)CoCa
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Easily one of Zenex's best players at the moment. If they get any wins in their matches there's a good chance a few of them will come from this guy.

1 (P)Creator
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I honestly thing Creator is a huge steal at 1 point. This kid is so solid; especially for his age. I expect Prime to use him a lot more this season.

4 (T)GuMiho
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One of fOu's best players last season and a really solid team league player overall. fOu isn't that deep so I'm expecting this guy to see action fairly frequently and get some wins.

6 (Z)Leenock
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I love Leenock.

9 (T)MMA (captain)
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Best player in GSTL history? Made the Super Tournament finals? Some of the best multi-tasking in SC2? Amazing TvT and TvZ? Easy choice although I'm a little worried about Protoss snipers being prepared by other teams for him.

4 (P)NaNiwa
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He's shown himself to be able to go toe to toe with Koreans and he's got an amazing work ethic when it comes to improving. He'll probably play every match F.United is in too. *fingers crossed!*

2 (T)Taeja
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His all-kill last season aside, I really think this guy is another rising Terran star. He came within one game of getting to go to MLG instead of July as well. It's hard to go wrong with Slayers Terrans. He's a great deal at 2 points. My only concern is that he might not be played as much as Ryung, who's got better sniper potential.

2 (P)Tassadar
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I feel like this guy is really underrated. Although his record isn't too stellar yet I think we'll be seeing good things from him in the future. He is on San's team after all. I'm guessing he'll see a lot of games over the course of the season as well.

4 MVP
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Easily the best team for the points in my opinion. They're going to be even better than they were last season. Expect Guinea Pig and Keen to get a lot more wins. A really solid choice if you're low on points after your player selections.


Team league is way different ballgame than the regular 1v1 tournaments. You have to weigh overall player strength with what players are talented at preparing to snipe other players. I also like to base my picks around who I felt showed a lot of potential last season and in recent events. My picks might seem odd at times, but I know my Korean SC2 players. Trust me on that one.

Anti Team
7 (T)aLive
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I'm worried about this pick, but He's inconsistent enough that I think things should turn out ok.

4 (Z)FruitDealer
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Unless FD really changes some things about his play he'll still be in the same bad spot as he was the previous team leagues.

3 (T)RainBOw
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Sorry Rainbow, you were a fun 4v4 partner, but you're 1v1 has been lacking lately.


Ugh. I hate picking the anti-team since I like alll 3 of these players. The fact is though, the inconsistent players have the best chance of getting played and losing. Simple as that.

So there you go. We'll see if my unique insight into the Korean scene works out.

Nice to have someone of your insight make a team! I hope Rainbow comes out of his slump this season
~Terran For Life~
dCc
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada86 Posts
June 21 2011 21:54 GMT
#642
dCc

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Main Team
2 (P)Ace
Seems like pretty good value for a decent player who has a good chance of making some appearances at the GSTL.
1 (P)Creator
I was impressed with his during his match at the Super Tournament against IMMvp. I needed some cheaper players to round out my roster.
1 (P)HuK
Has a lot of potential as we saw at Dreamhack where he defeated July 2-0 in convincing fashion. The problem with Huk is that he is with oGs which has so many talented players and may not see many games if any at all.
5 (Z)July
One of the top players on a very strong StarTale team. No explanation is necessary. 5 points seems like a steal.
9 (P)MC (captain)
My favorite player in all of SC2. I would have picked him even if he cost 15 points. He is the ace of oGs and has a very good record.
4 (T)NaDa
Another favorite of mine. The problem with oGs players is that the team is so deep, many will not get as much play time.
7 (T)sC
My second favorite player. Solid all round and the ace of fOu. Should see a lot of games.
2 (Z)ViOlet
For 2 points he seems like another steal. Pretty solid zerg player.
5 Old GenerationS
Has a ton of talent top to bottom. Did not have very good results in previous GSTLs but with more games, that could change.

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Anti Team
4 (T)Byun
4 (Z)Curious
5 (T)Lyn
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
June 21 2011 21:55 GMT
#643
FruitDealer will become the SC2 RorO, prepare to get a ton of AT points all you FD AT PICKERS! lol
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
June 21 2011 21:58 GMT
#644
On June 22 2011 06:55 kOre wrote:
FruitDealer will become the SC2 RorO, prepare to get a ton of AT points all you FD AT PICKERS! lol

Not as bad as the Jaehoon/Horang2 pickers. That was hilarious. With Horang2, though, people should have seen it coming. Jaehoon just started winning out of no where, though XD
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
June 21 2011 22:08 GMT
#645
Main Team
5 (P)Alicia
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong
9 (T)Bomber
1 (P)Hero
4 (P)InCa
8 (Z)LosirA (captain)
1 (P)Lure
1 (T)TopClass
6 SlayerS

Anti Team
5 (P)Killer
2 (T)TheBest
6 (P)Trickster

My general strategy was to pick a few players that I had heard of then fill in the rest of my spots with 1 point players that had cool names.
KwanROLLLLLLLED
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
June 21 2011 22:11 GMT
#646
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The Knights Who Say Ni

Main Team
8 (Z)DongRaeGu
1 (P)Hero
1 (T)IMHappy
9 (P)MC (captain)
9 (T)MMA
1 (T)Nuclear
2 (P)Puzzle
1 (P)SocceR
4 MVP

Anti Team
3 (P)Choya
4 (Z)FruitDealer
6 (P)Trickster


My team has 3 superheroes (MMA, DongRaeGu and MC) and the rest are people who I think are undervalued, players that I like to call 'closet gosus'

SocceR is very very undervalued at 1, he just got into Code A and I'm certain he will raise in value, come out of the closet soon and be a true gosu.

Hero is also 1 which is pretty crazy, hes like oGs' protoss of choice after MC

Happy gives me a player from IM so I can get those juicy +1's from IM winning a lot :p

Isn't Nuclear meant to be really good...? I think so :3 I also have a feeling fOu could do a bit better this time round.

Puzzle isn't even a closet gosu, hes a chest of drawers gosu or something like that, I also think he will go up in value, and I mean having a Zenex player could net me a couple of points :p

MMA, MC and DongRaeGu are all exceptionally good players, MMA and DongRaeGu give me points from SlayerS and MvP.

I chose team MvP because I couldn't find any other great 1 pointers so I picked puzzle, giving me 4 points left, it was between MvP and Prime for me really, and I am a bit of a DongRaeGu fanboy so I had to pick MvP :p

FD was good in a time when everyone was bad if you get what I mean, him being 4 points is pretty good for anti-team

Trickster just hasn't been showing great stuff recently :/

Choya is damn good








...at qualifying for Code A, he isn't really that great at much else tbh
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Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
June 21 2011 22:55 GMT
#647
AHHHH i need to reallly stop changing my teams up lol. i have no idea which one to pick

more balanced, no aces, but boss team pick
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Darknesss

Main Team
5 (P)Alicia (captain)
7 (T)aLive
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong
5 (R)GuineaPig
4 (T)GuMiho
1 (P)Hero
3 (T)Keen
2 (T)TheStC
8 Incredible Miracle

Anti Team
3 (P)Choya
4 (Z)FruitDealer
6 (P)Trickster


or

one ace, top team, and some guys with potential

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Darknesss

Main Team
2 (P)Ace
5 (P)Alicia
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong
5 (R)GuineaPig
1 (P)Hero
9 (T)MMA (captain)
3 (T)SuperNoVa
2 (T)TheStC
8 Incredible Miracle

Anti Team
3 (P)Choya
4 (Z)FruitDealer
6 (P)Trickster


In the first one, everyone has gotten good results in team matches, with some mixed ones in individual leagues.

In the second one, some have sucess in both team and indiv,(MMA), some just team, and others just potential.

Thoughts?!?!
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
Lizarb
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark307 Posts
June 21 2011 23:42 GMT
#648
I'm a noob at making fantasy teams, but this could be alot of fun.

Billund Base Stealers
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Billund Base Steelers

Main Team
2 (P)Ace
1 (Z)BBoongBBoong
1 (P)HuK
5 (Z)July
9 (T)MMA
8 (Z)NesTea (captain)
2 (T)Qxc
3 (Z)Sheth
5 Old GenerationS

Anti Team
3 (Z)Check
5 (R)GuineaPig
5 (T)Lyn


Reason:
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I took some players that I really hope will do well because I have been a fan for a while, GO QXC, more fun rooting for a player for two reasons. Sheth really seams strong atm, and such a cool person. Ace doing well in NASL, Huk is cool and at 1 point its a bargin. July seams very strong also. BBoongBBoong I just HAD to have because of the fun name.

Don't know much about Lyn, but seen a few mention that he properly wont play much. Check I'm thinking he will focus mainly on his captain duty, and I needed to fill 13 points. Could backfire ofc. GuineaPig I took because the MVP team has alot of nice players with as good or better results that happend much more recent. Random race is a bit of a gamble to put in a match IMHO.
Only thing I know is that I know nothing.
RobiTL
Profile Joined July 2010
France55 Posts
June 21 2011 23:46 GMT
#649
Here are some more sorted informations I got out, it might help some people :
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"F.U" "P" "{4:NaNiwa,1:SocceR}"
"F.U" "T" "{5:Lyn,4:ThorZaIN}"
"F.U" "Z" "{5:Moon}"
"FOU" "P" "{3:Choya,1:Crane,1:Imori,1:Weekend}"
"FOU" "T" "{7:sC,4:GuMiho,2:TheBest,1:Artist,1:Nuclear,1:Ox,1:TopClass,1:kasyu}"
"FOU" "Z" "{6:Leenock,2:Lucky,1:Shine,1:Sirius,1:Terious}"
"FXO" "P" "{3:Twilight,1:Anthony,1:OpTiKzErO,1:SLoG,1:Wolf}"
"FXO" "T" "{2:MOoNan,2:Qxc,1:Filthy}"
"FXO" "Z" "{3:Sheth,1:Tgun}"
"IM " "P" "{3:Seed,3:Younghwa,1:BBi,1:Ready}"
"IM " "T" "{9:MVP,2:Yoda,1:ChRh,1:Dreamertt,1:IMHappy}"
"IM " "Z" "{8:LosirA,8:NesTea,2:Junwi,1:Horror,1:Sopia,1:True}"
"MVP" "P" "{4:Genius,2:HwangSin,2:Tails,1:Avenge,1:Finale,1:Keeping,1:Lure,1:NalZa,1:Vampire}"
"MVP" "R" "{5:GuineaPig}"
"MVP" "T" "{3:Keen,2:Noblesse,1:Aya,1:Dream}"
"MVP" "Z" "{8:DongRaeGu,2:ViOlet,1:Galaxy,1:Monster,1:Sniper}"
"NSH" "P" "{5:San,3:Sage,2:Banbanssu,2:Tassadar,1:Ggod}"
"NSH" "T" "{2:Jjakji,1:Sculp,1:Shuttle,1:Sia}"
"NSH" "Z" "{1:Fake,1:Seal}"
"OGS" "P" "{9:MC,4:InCa,1:Carmel,1:Hero,1:HuK,1:Vines,1:WanT}"
"OGS" "T" "{5:TOP,4:NaDa,3:SuperNoVa,2:Ensnare,2:TheStC,1:Hyperdub,1:Jinro,1:LittleBoy}"
"OGS" "Z" "{5enio,1:Cezanne,1:JookTo,1:Luvsic,1:TheWinD}"
"PRM" "P" "{4:HongUn,3:Anypro,2:Lotze,1:Classic,1:Creator,1:Daisy}"
"PRM" "T" "{8:MarineKing,8olt,4:Maka,1:Hannibal,1:Libero,1:Maru,1:Tankboy}"
"PRM" "Z" "{3:Check,1:AnnYeong,1:BBoongBBoong,1:Gerrard}"
"SLR" "P" "{5:Alicia,3:Frozen,1:Brown,1:Golden,1:Kuma,1:SengKun,1:Tiffany}"
"SLR" "T" "{9:MMA,6:Ryung,5:GanZi,2:BoxeR,2:Taeja,1:Jys,1:Lots,1:Milz,1:Special}"
"SLR" "Z" "{4:Min,2:YuGiOh,1:Cella,1:Drughead,1:Fairy,1:Gambler,1:Sleep}"
"ST " " " "{1:Max}"
"ST " "P" "{4:Squirtle,2:Ace,1arting,1:Tiger}"
"ST " "T" "{9:Bomber,3:RainBOw,3:Virus,2:August,1:Sound}"
"ST " "Z" "{5:July,4:Curious,1:Tandongho,1:yCh}"
"TSL" "P" "{6:Trickster,5:Killer,1:Smart}"
"TSL" "T" "{7:aLive,4:Clide,2uMa,1:Heart}"
"TSL" "Z" "{4:FruitDealer,3:RevivaL}"
"ZNX" "P" "{2uzzle,1:COre,1:FreeSaGa,1:Returning,1:Yong}"
"ZNX" "T" "{4:Byun,1:Cutter,1:Hack,1:IceCream,1:Issue,1:Jjun,1aralyzE}"
"ZNX" "Z" "{4:Line,3:Kyrix,2:CoCa,1:Life,1:Naya}"

Same without the score 1 players :
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"F.U" "P" "{4:NaNiwa}"
"F.U" "T" "{5:Lyn,4:ThorZaIN}"
"F.U" "Z" "{5:Moon}"
"FOU" "P" "{3:Choya}"
"FOU" "T" "{7:sC,4:GuMiho,2:TheBest}"
"FOU" "Z" "{6:Leenock,2:Lucky}"
"FXO" "P" "{3:Twilight}"
"FXO" "T" "{2:MOoNan,2:Qxc}"
"FXO" "Z" "{3:Sheth}"
"IM " "P" "{3:Seed,3:Younghwa}"
"IM " "T" "{9:MVP,2:Yoda}"
"IM " "Z" "{8:LosirA,8:NesTea,2:Junwi}"
"MVP" "P" "{4:Genius,2:HwangSin,2:Tails}"
"MVP" "R" "{5:GuineaPig}"
"MVP" "T" "{3:Keen,2:Noblesse}"
"MVP" "Z" "{8:DongRaeGu,2:ViOlet}"
"NSH" "P" "{5:San,3:Sage,2:Banbanssu,2:Tassadar}"
"NSH" "T" "{2:Jjakji}"
"NSH" "Z" "{}"
"OGS" "P" "{9:MC,4:InCa}"
"OGS" "T" "{5:TOP,4:NaDa,3:SuperNoVa,2:Ensnare,2:TheStC}"
"OGS" "Z" "{5enio}"
"PRM" "P" "{4:HongUn,3:Anypro,2:Lotze}"
"PRM" "T" "{8:MarineKing,8olt,4:Maka}"
"PRM" "Z" "{3:Check}"
"SLR" "P" "{5:Alicia,3:Frozen}"
"SLR" "T" "{9:MMA,6:Ryung,5:GanZi,2:BoxeR,2:Taeja}"
"SLR" "Z" "{4:Min,2:YuGiOh}"
"ST " " " "{}"
"ST " "P" "{4:Squirtle,2:Ace}"
"ST " "T" "{9:Bomber,3:RainBOw,3:Virus,2:August}"
"ST " "Z" "{5:July,4:Curious}"
"TSL" "P" "{6:Trickster,5:Killer}"
"TSL" "T" "{7:aLive,4:Clide,2uMa}"
"TSL" "Z" "{4:FruitDealer,3:RevivaL}"
"ZNX" "P" "{2uzzle}"
"ZNX" "T" "{4:Byun}"
"ZNX" "Z" "{4:Line,3:Kyrix,2:CoCa}"

Born to be Zerg
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 00:20:56
June 22 2011 00:18 GMT
#650
On June 22 2011 06:23 DoA wrote:
Doa's Team
Anti Team
7 (T)aLive
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I'm worried about this pick, but He's inconsistent enough that I think things should turn out ok.

4 (Z)FruitDealer
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Unless FD really changes some things about his play he'll still be in the same bad spot as he was the previous team leagues.

3 (T)RainBOw
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Sorry Rainbow, you were a fun 4v4 partner, but you're 1v1 has been lacking lately.


Ugh. I hate picking the anti-team since I like alll 3 of these players. The fact is though, the inconsistent players have the best chance of getting played and losing. Simple as that.



My anti team is very similar. Just checkprime instead of fruitdealer. We know Fruitdealer can perform on occasion where as check never really has on the big stage.

I share the sentiments about alive. I'm abit worried his high ELO might suddenly churn out results in the GSTL. But at 7 points I'm taking that risk.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
June 22 2011 00:38 GMT
#651
Some tips I think are tipful :D

Avoid picking players from large teams, ESPECIALLY oGs. By large I don't mean like, MVP and Prime are the largest teams, but by how oGs has almost 9 or so people in Code S. More potential players, less likely your player will play or have people to win against.

Avoid NesTea, Mvp, and Losira. If you're going to spend 7+ points on a player, it better be the ace of the team. With these three players, they're like a 3 part Ace. On teams like TSL, aLive is almost guarenteed to play and get wins. On this team, say Losira all-kills, Mvp and NesTea won't even play.

aLive, MMA, Dongraegu are probably going to be the most valuable 7+ player. Maybe Bomber. But these players are so because they practically carry their team. This is the most prominent in the case of aLive. Seriously, go look at all of TSL's games from the past GSTL. aLive does ALL the work. Players like Bomber, MC, the IM Stars, MKP, Polt, and sC either have strong teams that don't rely on them so much, or just under perform what they should do in the Team League.

While it may seem like a good idea to put the F. United players on your anti, and stack your team with a couple good FXO players (more so the first part), the point values take into account how many matches the player has left. So by the time Week 4 to 5 rolls around, the 5 pointers Lyn and Moon, and the 4 Pointers ThorZain and Naniwa will be much higher, even without playing a game. This means that, while you just plan to trade them off for more safe picks such as Tester, Check, Choya, the only people that will be available to trade them for will be high pointers like sC, Alicia, etc.

Get SocceR. Or, if you seriously don't want the best choice of any 1 point player, research the 1 and 2 point players. Find some hidden gems, Code A qualifiers, etc. Players like IMHappy, oGsHero, ST_Tiger. All 1 point, all qualifiers for Code A, and the best thing, Happy and Tiger are starting in their teams first match. Back to SocceR however. This guy is good, but don't take my word for it. He just qualified for Code A. But still, the most important point.... he's 1 point right now. He won't be in 5 Weeks, I guarentee you. It's an investment, because not only will his value build up over time as we approach Week 6, but who knows how far he will get in Code A. Also, he's on FOX, the smallest team, so their players will be naturally more valuable and likely to play. He's also, believe me, very good.

Avoid Huk and Jinro. They seem to be very popular picks, and I love them. But they are so unlikely to play. Treat them like any oGs player, and oGs players should not be picked in the first place because of the teams size. Look at Huk, Code S, won Dreamhack, Ro32 in the Super Tournament, beat MMA in Up/downs. But only 1 point??!? There's a reason, it's because who ever is doing the points know how low the likelyhood of him playing is.

Don't put at 7+ player on your anti. Just don't. Also, try to stick to players that have been falling from grace ever since Season 1. But also, consider their team. While it may seem great to pick players like TesteR and Fruitdealer, TSL is very small, and these two have appeared in almost all their team matches so far. Remember, you get the same amount of points if your player loses as if your player doesn't play at all (Which I think should be changed, but w/e, as it is now, this is what you should do). Therefore, players like Check, Ensare and Choya are better choices. Also, think about their role in their team. Many people pick San or Leenock because they think they are bad, but they, like the TSL guys, are essential parts of their team. San is practically NsH's Ace (most likely).

And finally, as WaxAngel says, look at the schedule. Look at the starting players. Plan trades. But don't over trade.

And if you have 4 Points for a team, go with MVP, not Prime.
MKP||TSL
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
June 22 2011 00:57 GMT
#652
F(x)

Main Team
5 (P)Alicia
9 (T)Bomber
1 (P)Creator
8 (Z)DongRaeGu (captain)
4 (T)GuMiho
1 (P)Hero
1 (T)IMHappy
2 (T)Yoda
4 MVP

Anti Team
3 (Z)Check
5 (P)Killer
5 (Z)Moon

Much revising, but it's my final setup
IzieBoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 01:22:46
June 22 2011 01:05 GMT
#653
Expert Prediction

Main Team
2 (P)Ace
1 (T)IMHappy
5 (Z)July
2 (T)MOoNan
4 (T)NaDa
8 (Z)NesTea (captain)
3 (Z)Sheth
3 (P)Twilight
8 Incredible Miracle

Anti Team
5 (Z)Moon
4 (P)NaNiwa
4 (T)ThorZaIN

lol i don't plan on winning the top score, so i'd say this plan is decent

FXO is a small team so it's more likely for sheth, twilight, MOoNan and i plan on switching these for the F.United players (Moon, NaNiwa, ThorZaiN) come early august

IM Happy is just pretty good and might be a lead in many games. i chose IM nestea for captain(supposedly it's good for tiebreakers). I plan on keeping both all my IM picks. I hope I can keep my oGsNada pick too come august.

Startale is a small team so hopefully july and ace will see action. They are for backup if I really have no other way to trade for F.United players.

And for the Anti Team, F.United players of course until august.
Let's Do This! Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins!
two.watup
Profile Joined March 2011
United States371 Posts
June 22 2011 01:12 GMT
#654
umm...

Week 1: Incredible Miracle vs fOu
Week 3: Incredible Miracle vs ZeNEX
Week 5: Incredible Miracle vs FXO
Week 7: Incredible Miracle vs NSHoseo
Week 10: Incredible Miracle vs Startale

It wouldn't be much of an incredible miracle if they won all these games lol
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
June 22 2011 01:14 GMT
#655

Main Team
5 (P)Alicia

SlayerS's main Protoss. SlayerS can't possibly go all Terran and as an excellent vT sniper, he will bring home some assured dough. A safe pick for a solid player. 2-0 over MC anybody?

2 (Z)CoCa

A cheap player with potential. Beating Jinro in Up/Down is not too shabby.

3 (P)Frozen

A cheap protoss from a team with expensive Terrans. For a team that fears Terran snipers, he can abosrb those terran-penetrating bullets. He's also been on Cella's stream so~

5 (Z)July

At 5 points, July too is pretty cheap. Sharing the place below NesTea with Losira and DRG, he has the individual results the other two don't, but costs less. He carried hard vs the foreigners and tore through MLG brackets. With two (maybe even OGS, 3) teams now carrying forigners, I hope he can deliver.

8 (Z)NesTea (captain)

MMA and MVP are 9 and NesTea is 8 points? I mean I may start sounding like Scrooge, but 1 point saved is 1 point earned. After IM's surprising upset, their coach may have something to say to regain their title. Anyhow, this man's vZ is impeccable, beat Bomber that hot shot Terran 2-0 convincingly, and made a laughingstock out of Inca. Convincing revenge over Anypro too.

2 (T)Taeja

He has an AK, something of a rarity. At 2 points, he was kind of a filler, but also part of a long line of up-and-coming Slayers Terran that come out of a reactored barracks.

4 (T)ThorZaIN

It was him or Naniwa. A little bit pricy, but he proved he can go toe to toe with anyone and come out ahead. His practice makes him near-invincible, and put him with a bunch of Koreans in a Korea for a month? He is simply solid, and he has these little things that he does that seems to set him apart.

2 (Z)ViOlet

Not DRG, but still plays well and can take a game off anyone. Beat TheWind and Kyrix, so his vZ skills are good enough to match some lesser known Zergs.

5 Old GenerationS

A little bit of a risk. However, underperforming 3 seasons in a row must be embarrassing. If to avoid losing face if nothing else, I expect OGS to perform. Seriously, with that many Code S players (and Huk fresh from DH), why has this team not made it to the finals yet?

Anti Team
5 (P)Killer

Does not really have great results. Consistent results against zergs, but in a Terran heavy Korea, I don't see him doing as well as he could. TSL generally disappoints in GSTL

3 (Z)RevivaL

Can anyone who saw him play recently in the Super Tourney honestly disagree?

5 (P)San

Sad Zenith is Sad. Who is on a losing streak? He is.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 22 2011 01:14 GMT
#656
On June 22 2011 09:38 mikyaJ wrote:
Some tips I think are tipful :D

Avoid picking players from large teams, ESPECIALLY oGs. By large I don't mean like, MVP and Prime are the largest teams, but by how oGs has almost 9 or so people in Code S. More potential players, less likely your player will play or have people to win against.

Avoid NesTea, Mvp, and Losira. If you're going to spend 7+ points on a player, it better be the ace of the team. With these three players, they're like a 3 part Ace. On teams like TSL, aLive is almost guarenteed to play and get wins. On this team, say Losira all-kills, Mvp and NesTea won't even play.

aLive, MMA, Dongraegu are probably going to be the most valuable 7+ player. Maybe Bomber. But these players are so because they practically carry their team. This is the most prominent in the case of aLive. Seriously, go look at all of TSL's games from the past GSTL. aLive does ALL the work. Players like Bomber, MC, the IM Stars, MKP, Polt, and sC either have strong teams that don't rely on them so much, or just under perform what they should do in the Team League.

While it may seem like a good idea to put the F. United players on your anti, and stack your team with a couple good FXO players (more so the first part), the point values take into account how many matches the player has left. So by the time Week 4 to 5 rolls around, the 5 pointers Lyn and Moon, and the 4 Pointers ThorZain and Naniwa will be much higher, even without playing a game. This means that, while you just plan to trade them off for more safe picks such as Tester, Check, Choya, the only people that will be available to trade them for will be high pointers like sC, Alicia, etc.

Get SocceR. Or, if you seriously don't want the best choice of any 1 point player, research the 1 and 2 point players. Find some hidden gems, Code A qualifiers, etc. Players like IMHappy, oGsHero, ST_Tiger. All 1 point, all qualifiers for Code A, and the best thing, Happy and Tiger are starting in their teams first match. Back to SocceR however. This guy is good, but don't take my word for it. He just qualified for Code A. But still, the most important point.... he's 1 point right now. He won't be in 5 Weeks, I guarentee you. It's an investment, because not only will his value build up over time as we approach Week 6, but who knows how far he will get in Code A. Also, he's on FOX, the smallest team, so their players will be naturally more valuable and likely to play. He's also, believe me, very good.

Avoid Huk and Jinro. They seem to be very popular picks, and I love them. But they are so unlikely to play. Treat them like any oGs player, and oGs players should not be picked in the first place because of the teams size. Look at Huk, Code S, won Dreamhack, Ro32 in the Super Tournament, beat MMA in Up/downs. But only 1 point??!? There's a reason, it's because who ever is doing the points know how low the likelyhood of him playing is.

Don't put at 7+ player on your anti. Just don't. Also, try to stick to players that have been falling from grace ever since Season 1. But also, consider their team. While it may seem great to pick players like TesteR and Fruitdealer, TSL is very small, and these two have appeared in almost all their team matches so far. Remember, you get the same amount of points if your player loses as if your player doesn't play at all (Which I think should be changed, but w/e, as it is now, this is what you should do). Therefore, players like Check, Ensare and Choya are better choices. Also, think about their role in their team. Many people pick San or Leenock because they think they are bad, but they, like the TSL guys, are essential parts of their team. San is practically NsH's Ace (most likely).

And finally, as WaxAngel says, look at the schedule. Look at the starting players. Plan trades. But don't over trade.

And if you have 4 Points for a team, go with MVP, not Prime.


Awesome tips! I agree with them all except for not putting a 7+ player on your anti. Putting a 7+ player on your anti allows you to choose 2 other players that are guaranteed to not win/play games at all. Pretty much every FPL so far, a few of the best anti teams have used this strategy (Sea, Bisu, Effort, Leta, Kal, etc). It's a safe and effective strategy that only relies on a single underperforming player to keep underperforming. When you have 3 middling players on your anti, there's a good chance that at least one of them decides to stop sucking and fuck your anti team over (Killer, Jaehoon, Hiya, Movie, etc). Not to say that having a +7 player is the superior strategy, they're both equally effective when it comes to results.
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
June 22 2011 01:23 GMT
#657
On June 22 2011 06:23 DoA wrote:
Doa's Team

Main Team
2 (Z)CoCa
+ Show Spoiler +
Easily one of Zenex's best players at the moment. If they get any wins in their matches there's a good chance a few of them will come from this guy.

1 (P)Creator
+ Show Spoiler +
I honestly thing Creator is a huge steal at 1 point. This kid is so solid; especially for his age. I expect Prime to use him a lot more this season.

4 (T)GuMiho
+ Show Spoiler +
One of fOu's best players last season and a really solid team league player overall. fOu isn't that deep so I'm expecting this guy to see action fairly frequently and get some wins.

6 (Z)Leenock
+ Show Spoiler +
I love Leenock.

9 (T)MMA (captain)
+ Show Spoiler +
Best player in GSTL history? Made the Super Tournament finals? Some of the best multi-tasking in SC2? Amazing TvT and TvZ? Easy choice although I'm a little worried about Protoss snipers being prepared by other teams for him.

4 (P)NaNiwa
+ Show Spoiler +
He's shown himself to be able to go toe to toe with Koreans and he's got an amazing work ethic when it comes to improving. He'll probably play every match F.United is in too. *fingers crossed!*

2 (T)Taeja
+ Show Spoiler +
His all-kill last season aside, I really think this guy is another rising Terran star. He came within one game of getting to go to MLG instead of July as well. It's hard to go wrong with Slayers Terrans. He's a great deal at 2 points. My only concern is that he might not be played as much as Ryung, who's got better sniper potential.

2 (P)Tassadar
+ Show Spoiler +
I feel like this guy is really underrated. Although his record isn't too stellar yet I think we'll be seeing good things from him in the future. He is on San's team after all. I'm guessing he'll see a lot of games over the course of the season as well.

4 MVP
+ Show Spoiler +
Easily the best team for the points in my opinion. They're going to be even better than they were last season. Expect Guinea Pig and Keen to get a lot more wins. A really solid choice if you're low on points after your player selections.


Team league is way different ballgame than the regular 1v1 tournaments. You have to weigh overall player strength with what players are talented at preparing to snipe other players. I also like to base my picks around who I felt showed a lot of potential last season and in recent events. My picks might seem odd at times, but I know my Korean SC2 players. Trust me on that one.

Anti Team
7 (T)aLive
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm worried about this pick, but He's inconsistent enough that I think things should turn out ok.

4 (Z)FruitDealer
+ Show Spoiler +
Unless FD really changes some things about his play he'll still be in the same bad spot as he was the previous team leagues.

3 (T)RainBOw
+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry Rainbow, you were a fun 4v4 partner, but you're 1v1 has been lacking lately.


Ugh. I hate picking the anti-team since I like alll 3 of these players. The fact is though, the inconsistent players have the best chance of getting played and losing. Simple as that.

So there you go. We'll see if my unique insight into the Korean scene works out.


Awesome! I hope wolf artosis and tasteless play to and they can talk about it a bit on air it would be cool. Maybe a friendly competition to see witch caster gets more points. (Can we get Koreans playing this to? )

I picked polt because he seems to win a lot somehow even if I don't like him much, nobody else seems to though is he a bad choice?
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 01:42:07
June 22 2011 01:38 GMT
#658
IDKWTFID

Main Team
3 (P)Anypro
+ Show Spoiler +
Good pick up for 3 points, I feel. Sort fo risky I guess.

5 (T)GanZi+ Show Spoiler +
TvZ sniper, which is great for Team Leagues. I'm hoping he'll be worth the 5 points.

5 (Z)July+ Show Spoiler +
July is July is July.

6 (Z)Leenock+ Show Spoiler +
One of my more expensive players, but really strong.

8 (Z)NesTea (captain)+ Show Spoiler +
Obviously.

1 (Z)True+ Show Spoiler +
Mainly to pick up another team.

1 (P)Vines+ Show Spoiler +
Picked only because his name sounds like...

3 (T)Virus+ Show Spoiler +
From what I've seen of him he's solid. However, I haven't seen much of him.

4 MVP+ Show Spoiler +
I think everyone picked MVP.


Anti Team
5 (P)Killer
5 (Z)Moon
3 (T)RainBOw
Killer has done nothing since... a while ago. Rainbow dropped quickly after season 2. Moon... I feel is overrated. I'm not sure about that.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
Teoyaomqui
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden326 Posts
June 22 2011 01:48 GMT
#659
Are the playoffs included in the season? Only the 10 weeks of the regular season shows up in the detailed team tab. I assume though that the playoffs are included as well. How is it in the brood war league?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 22 2011 01:55 GMT
#660
On June 22 2011 10:48 Teoyaomqui wrote:
Are the playoffs included in the season? Only the 10 weeks of the regular season shows up in the detailed team tab. I assume though that the playoffs are included as well. How is it in the brood war league?


Playoffs do not count towards your points.
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