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Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
July 09 2011 00:57 GMT
#221
given how not too long ago, the foreign scene was a world away from the korean in starcraft, now into sc2, while still dominant, the korean scene is not the far cry of skill for the foreigners. Im proud of my foreign heroes. I know its only a matter of time before the koreans fear the foreigners.
bring back weapon of choice for hots!
DrMichaelSavage
Profile Joined July 2011
Albania49 Posts
July 09 2011 00:59 GMT
#222
On July 09 2011 09:57 Destro wrote:
given how not too long ago, the foreign scene was a world away from the korean in starcraft, now into sc2, while still dominant, the korean scene is not the far cry of skill for the foreigners. Im proud of my foreign heroes. I know its only a matter of time before the koreans fear the foreigners.

"I think you're a racist cracker"
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 01:21:15
July 09 2011 01:19 GMT
#223
On July 09 2011 09:57 Destro wrote:
given how not too long ago, the foreign scene was a world away from the korean in starcraft, now into sc2, while still dominant, the korean scene is not the far cry of skill for the foreigners. Im proud of my foreign heroes. I know its only a matter of time before the koreans fear the foreigners.


The BW dominance doesn't automatically transfer to SC2 though.

You make it sound as if 1-2 years ago Koreans were completely dominant at a game, and now the foreigners caught up.

Whereas what really happened was that 2 years ago Koreans are completely dominant in Brood War, and are still just as dominant in it today. In the meantime, a new game got released, and everyone started on equal footing and equal opportunity, yet Koreans are already steadily pulling ahead.
deadjawa
Profile Joined May 2011
United States179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 03:46:28
July 09 2011 03:44 GMT
#224
Premature bumpulation.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
July 09 2011 03:50 GMT
#225
Completely agree with the OP. Great post, and foreigners should welcome it, AND step up to the challenge.
Syrupjuice
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States173 Posts
July 09 2011 04:11 GMT
#226
I LOVE the optimism that I am seeing in this thread! Most everybody is like, "Yeah! If foreigners just buckle down a bit more we'll be on par with them." It's so great to hear, and the OP brings up some really good points.

I fear that if foreigners don't start to put in a bit more time that we will start to see the gap widen. But if we start to put in the time that is required (by the people who have already made it their life) I think the gap will start to narrow. I think the closer we get to the skill of Koreans the more Starcraft2, and eSports in general, will start to get more recognition in NA.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
July 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#227
LMAO why do you guys do this?

*Foreigners lose*-> koreans are coming thread is bumped
*Foreigners win*-> Bump this thread

Whether koreans will dominate again or not will be up to the foreigner scene, right now koreans may seem dominating but we can't really know if it will be the same way. I'd hope that foreigners come to an even level, but I have no sympathies for people who work less for something so yeah, foreigners need to step it up.
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