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Dreamhack invites TLO, ThorZaIN, SjoW, and more - Page 7

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antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
May 24 2011 23:21 GMT
#121
On May 25 2011 08:14 mordk wrote:
I really don't understand people who argue about which is the best player in these terms, they go like "Yeah, ThorZain beat MC in a bo5, he's proven he's better" or "ThorZain rolled Kas in a Bo7, he's the best TvT player in the world". What the hell??? I mean, "Fulham beat Manchester United in a match".. how does that translate into "Fulham is a better team than ManU"?? It's completely ridiculous.

Thorzain is a good terran, but he's definitely not the best. He might be one of the best strategizers and game planners when given ideal conditions, but on the more regular cup conditions, he hasn't had any major victories. One match proves nothing.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, but when people judge player's skill and performance based on single matches, they're just doing it wrong.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Inca is better than NaDa. LOOLLL

almost no one is saying that Thorzain is the best of the world, people are saying that he BEATED the best in the world.
Klogbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States139 Posts
May 24 2011 23:23 GMT
#122
MUST HAZ SHETH! Congratz to all who were invited though.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 23:26:35
May 24 2011 23:24 GMT
#123
On May 25 2011 08:21 antilyon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 08:14 mordk wrote:
I really don't understand people who argue about which is the best player in these terms, they go like "Yeah, ThorZain beat MC in a bo5, he's proven he's better" or "ThorZain rolled Kas in a Bo7, he's the best TvT player in the world". What the hell??? I mean, "Fulham beat Manchester United in a match".. how does that translate into "Fulham is a better team than ManU"?? It's completely ridiculous.

Thorzain is a good terran, but he's definitely not the best. He might be one of the best strategizers and game planners when given ideal conditions, but on the more regular cup conditions, he hasn't had any major victories. One match proves nothing.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, but when people judge player's skill and performance based on single matches, they're just doing it wrong.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Inca is better than NaDa. LOOLLL

almost no one is saying that Thorzain is the best of the world, people are saying that he BEATED the best in the world.


"Almost no one" is grossly underrating it. People all over threads were saying ThorZain was the best foreigner terran, and many just went with "best in the world".

Even TZ himself said naniwa is better than him....
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
May 24 2011 23:24 GMT
#124
You should really invite haypro, he is a three time DH champion after all.

Also:
Morrow, sheth, fenix, sase, kiwikaki.
qoiN
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden576 Posts
May 24 2011 23:24 GMT
#125
On May 25 2011 08:14 mordk wrote:
I really don't understand people who argue about which is the best player in these terms, they go like "Yeah, ThorZain beat MC in a bo5, he's proven he's better" or "ThorZain rolled Kas in a Bo7, he's the best TvT player in the world". What the hell??? I mean, "Fulham beat Manchester United in a match".. how does that translate into "Fulham is a better team than ManU"?? It's completely ridiculous.


More like Fulham beat MU, Arsenal, Chelsea etc in a bo7, and if they did I'd say they're better for the time being at least.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 24 2011 23:28 GMT
#126
On May 25 2011 08:24 qoiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 08:14 mordk wrote:
I really don't understand people who argue about which is the best player in these terms, they go like "Yeah, ThorZain beat MC in a bo5, he's proven he's better" or "ThorZain rolled Kas in a Bo7, he's the best TvT player in the world". What the hell??? I mean, "Fulham beat Manchester United in a match".. how does that translate into "Fulham is a better team than ManU"?? It's completely ridiculous.


More like Fulham beat MU, Arsenal, Chelsea etc in a bo7, and if they did I'd say they're better for the time being at least.


That's the mistake, if Fulham beats MU, Arsenal, and Chelsea in a bo7, they ARE NOT better, they PLAYED better that particular matchup, doesn't mean they ARE better.

ARE implies a permanent or long standing characteristic in a period of time, you're talking about a specific moment, which is why the concept is wrong.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
May 24 2011 23:35 GMT
#127
On May 25 2011 08:24 VoirDire wrote:
You should really invite haypro, he is a three time DH champion after all.

Also:
Morrow, sheth, fenix, sase, kiwikaki.

Nah, they already invited Bishu cuz of the coin toss tournament to repay their fuck up last time. So inviting haypro just because he won DH in BW is just a waste of an invite, especially since haypro have been playing so so bad the last 6 months and wont stand a chance in this tournament. =/
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
May 24 2011 23:37 GMT
#128
I'm so excited!!!
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
May 24 2011 23:37 GMT
#129
On May 25 2011 01:00 LuckstYle wrote:
ThorZaiN overrated


Yea, kid is trash. Lucked his way all through his noob opponents in TSL, right?
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
May 24 2011 23:38 GMT
#130
On May 25 2011 08:24 VoirDire wrote:
You should really invite haypro, he is a three time DH champion after all.

Also:
Morrow, sheth, fenix, sase, kiwikaki.


I agree I'd love to see a HayprO invite.
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
CHILLIE
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden11 Posts
May 24 2011 23:39 GMT
#131
On May 25 2011 08:35 Termit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 08:24 VoirDire wrote:
You should really invite haypro, he is a three time DH champion after all.

Also:
Morrow, sheth, fenix, sase, kiwikaki.

Nah, they already invited Bishu cuz of the coin toss tournament to repay their fuck up last time. So inviting haypro just because he won DH in BW is just a waste of an invite, especially since haypro have been playing so so bad the last 6 months and wont stand a chance in this tournament. =/


Sad, but result-wise, true. He has fallen a bit but let's hope he gets back up there again! Maybe the awesome practice/team-house in Stockholm can help him get back on his feet.
"Science replaces private prejudice with publicly verifiable evidence." - R. Dawkins
AWakefield
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada420 Posts
May 24 2011 23:39 GMT
#132
TLO! Everything dreamhack says just makes me more and more happy.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
May 24 2011 23:42 GMT
#133
On May 25 2011 08:35 Termit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 08:24 VoirDire wrote:
You should really invite haypro, he is a three time DH champion after all.

Also:
Morrow, sheth, fenix, sase, kiwikaki.

Nah, they already invited Bishu cuz of the coin toss tournament to repay their fuck up last time. So inviting haypro just because he won DH in BW is just a waste of an invite, especially since haypro have been playing so so bad the last 6 months and wont stand a chance in this tournament. =/

The stars align whenever haypro goes to DH, granting him mystical starcraft powers.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
May 24 2011 23:46 GMT
#134
On May 25 2011 08:24 qoiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 08:14 mordk wrote:
I really don't understand people who argue about which is the best player in these terms, they go like "Yeah, ThorZain beat MC in a bo5, he's proven he's better" or "ThorZain rolled Kas in a Bo7, he's the best TvT player in the world". What the hell??? I mean, "Fulham beat Manchester United in a match".. how does that translate into "Fulham is a better team than ManU"?? It's completely ridiculous.


More like Fulham beat MU, Arsenal, Chelsea etc in a bo7, and if they did I'd say they're better for the time being at least.

I'm not sure you understand football
tetsuo9
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile62 Posts
May 24 2011 23:55 GMT
#135
Nerchio please aply to this.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 25 2011 00:33 GMT
#136
Great addition of players once again. Take Lalush down White-Ra!
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
May 25 2011 00:35 GMT
#137
TLO, Thorzain and Sjow? I just died and went to terran heaven!
hyperdemented
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria372 Posts
May 25 2011 00:48 GMT
#138
Really pleased to see Stephano got an invite, will be nice to see him at his first big international sc2 event. Was very impressed by what ive seen from him so far
Kici
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland57 Posts
May 25 2011 00:51 GMT
#139
where are MaNa, Tarson, Nerchio, DieStar :<
Boxer :*
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 25 2011 00:54 GMT
#140
W00T this event is going to be ridiculously stacked. I am considering going to Sweden for this. Damned.
I had a good night of sleep.
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