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On May 24 2011 15:34 Mordiford wrote:
Wait, I'm confused as hell, is there not going to be equal championship bracket player representation on the main stage?
Some players have no bolded matches while others have multiples, some players aren't even listed as an option in the votes(some who I'd like to see on the main stage). Why are players in the championship bracket not getting at least some slight equal representation on the main stage, or perhaps it'll even itself out over the course of the event.
This largely happened last time too where I ended up seeing a bunch of games I sort of wasn't too keen on and missed a ton of games I would have wanted to see on the main stage. Just wondering why it seems some players get snubbed off the main stage...
lol. a big part of mlg success is lots of ppl watching. so they do a poll and see what ppl want to watch. and they will show what ppl want to watch. problem?
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On May 24 2011 16:08 Diglett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 15:34 Mordiford wrote:
Wait, I'm confused as hell, is there not going to be equal championship bracket player representation on the main stage?
Some players have no bolded matches while others have multiples, some players aren't even listed as an option in the votes(some who I'd like to see on the main stage). Why are players in the championship bracket not getting at least some slight equal representation on the main stage, or perhaps it'll even itself out over the course of the event.
This largely happened last time too where I ended up seeing a bunch of games I sort of wasn't too keen on and missed a ton of games I would have wanted to see on the main stage. Just wondering why it seems some players get snubbed off the main stage... lol. a big part of mlg success is lots of ppl watching. so they do a poll and see what ppl want to watch. and they will show what ppl want to watch. problem?
Well, as I mentioned some players are neither included in the default or in the poll. Also, I disagree with some of the selections for the default but oh well.
I'd rather see Drewbie vs Moon over Haypro vs Losira. And I'd rather see SeleCT and Ret facing off on the main stage instead of Machine and inControl...
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omfg why dont u stream sjow vs mma...and stupid idra vs ret instead?
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Good job voting guys! The correct choices are on top!
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Idra-Bomber iNcontroL-Losira. It's so fluffy i'm gone die.
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On May 24 2011 16:15 gwaihir wrote:
omfg why dont u stream sjow vs mma...and stupid idra vs ret instead?
Because IdrA's and Ret's rivalry goes back to Broodwar, plus that they are two of the favorite foreigners, perhaps? SjoW, and especially MMA, are good and all, but more people will tune in to any game IDrA plays, tbh.
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I hope we'll be able to see a lot more than the matches in OP thanks to the secondary stream. That's all I have to say :p I voted anyway.
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On May 24 2011 16:15 gwaihir wrote:
omfg why dont u stream sjow vs mma...and stupid idra vs ret instead?
Because sjow didn't scout this thread.
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On May 24 2011 16:15 gwaihir wrote:
omfg why dont u stream sjow vs mma...and stupid idra vs ret instead?
because chances are that idra vs ret will be a much closer series than sjow vs mma
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On May 24 2011 16:51 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 16:15 gwaihir wrote:
omfg why dont u stream sjow vs mma...and stupid idra vs ret instead? because chances are that idra vs ret will be a much closer series than sjow vs mma
dont underestimate sjows smart playstyle....this will be a sick TvT for sure (or mma just roflstomps him :D)...bettter than a ZvZ coinflip between greedy zergs :D
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On May 24 2011 16:46 shabinka wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 16:15 gwaihir wrote:
omfg why dont u stream sjow vs mma...and stupid idra vs ret instead? Because sjow didn't scout this thread.
+1
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OMG, TLO vs. Losira!!! Can't waittt :D
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I threw up in my mouth a little when I got to the halo reach vote. I barely got the window closed before I had to smash my monitor.
MMA, Losira, Idra were my votes.
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__ What's the timezone for these games? __
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On May 24 2011 15:05 TheSwamp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 14:56 Rabiator wrote:On May 24 2011 08:59 turdburgler wrote:On May 24 2011 08:58 SpiZe wrote:I don't get why we are seeing the same players over and over, let's just look at the main stages, polls not included. 2 IdrA 2 Bomber 2 Ret 2 iNcontrol 2 Losira and with the poll we get : 3 IdrA 3 Losira If we have a look at the matchup we get to watch : 2 TvZ 3 ZvZ 3 PvZ With the poll we get 4 TvZ 1 PvT 3 ZvZ 3 PvZ No TvT, no PvP ? 4 Toss matchup, 7 zerg matchup and 5 terran matchup ? I feel those numbers are quite uneven, that + the fact that I can't see Tyler plays  i dont understand the point of what you are saying. you want a community vote to give exact racial and player balance, and not what people want to see? Just think about it: What would be the end result if IdrA was available for all slots? He has the largest active following and thus the most votes whenever he is up to be voted on. Would that make "all IdrA games" a good schedule? Not really, because choice / variation is also a good thing to have. Going always with the top vote only is kinda like the british electoral system, where the guy with the most votes gets the seat in parliament and all the votes for other people dont count towards anything anymore. That is called democracy. It has only been used for thousands of years by most every prominent civilization. If you have a better idea, I would be glad to hear it. Idra may have a huge following but so do all the players. It's no one's fault but the fans, if they don't support their favorite players by voting.
Well there is no "one true form of democracy". If you had read the comment about the british electoral system you might have noticed that. In Germany we have TWO votes in our democratic system. One will elect a candidate and the other goes towards a party and I will still be represented in parliament. Thus even if my candidate doesnt win he only takes "half" the electoral potential, because the other part will directly go to the party. This should be enough to show that there are different ways of doing things - even in democracy - unlike you seem to claim. I think there have been times in Britain, where the ruling party had less votes in total than another party, but due to the nature of the seats they still had a majority ...
A "good system" might be to give people more than one choice and to vote for favorite players. Then you take the total number of votes and go through the matches while looking for popular players, BUT once you have had a player on the central stage he would be moved to the last spot of the selection. Obviously there arent all possible combinations of players available, so some compromise has to be made, but I think that might be a good way to give every player a chance to be on the central stage instead of only the popular 3-5 ones.
In any case I dont think that it was a great idea to let people choose matches, because this will kinda "take choice away from MLG" because they are under pressure of public opinion now and people will whine "but match X vs. Y was more popular" whenever they have to schedule something differently. Thus voting for player popularity removes several problems:
- popular players getting voted for more than once
- MLGs choice of matches being forced
I dont think specific matchups should be listed for the main stage, simply because this makes the schedule too dependant upon the speedy play of some participants. Imagine if there is a long series - off stage - with one contestant who is scheduled for the main stage next. All of the games are 45 minutes long, thus there would be a delay of at least 30+ minutes for the main stage stream. Now add the whining of kids for their "most popular matchup" I mentioned above and you have bad vibes which are the result of "promising" to show a specific match.
I hope this helps with finding a "better system" by pointing out potential flaws in this one ...
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Good god look at the options :O *gasp*
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can't wait to see some korean fighting without any (supposed?) disadvantageous latency
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Knowing what games will be broadcast before the day comes around is a huge benefit 
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Omg, people here love the drama^^
Great idea to let the crowd vote and I feel like some good matches are voted to the top right now.
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Glad that all my votes have been the most voted so far
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